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ButlerKing
09-13-2013, 10:58 PM
Nepalese autosomal DNA

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( INDO ARYANS )

South Nepalese have from 83% Indo-Aryan/Dravidian DNA with 17% Burmese/Mongoloid DNA and they speak Indo-European language

( INDO ARYAN - BURMESE )

Central Nepalese have from 40- 65% Indo-Aryan/Dravidian DNA with 35 - 60% Burmese/Mongoloid DNA and they speak Indo-Burmese language

( TIBETO - BURMESE - MONGOLOID NEPALESE )

North Nepalese have from 27 - 38% Indo-Aryan/Dravidian DNA with 62 - 73% Mongoloid DNA and speaks Tibeto-Burmese language


http://i39.tinypic.com/2wfqmwn.jpg

Nepalese haplogroup

http://www.biomedcentral.com/content/figures/1471-2148-9-154-6.jpg

Nepalese Indian Y-DNA and mtDNA

4.2% East Eurasian mtDNA
83.3% South Asian mtDNA


11.5% East Eurasian Y-DNA
84.6% South Asian Y-DNA


Tharus mix race nepalese

32.5 - 68.4% East Eurasian mtDNA
29.8% - 67.5% South Asian mtDNA


21.6 - 56.1% East Eurasian Y-DNA
31.6 - 52% South Asian Y-DNA


http://southasiarev.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/maoist-nepal-revolution-pla-militia-guerrilla-freedom-liberation-women-socialism-himalayas.jpg
http://www.thepixelchef.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/P11009631-290x290.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-vXvbBhpC4pc/TmzZOujo4EI/AAAAAAAAABw/7g42i0DPkJ8/s320/DSCF9554.jpg

ButlerKing
09-13-2013, 11:08 PM
You can almost say that the Nepalese are the Uzbeks and Kazakhs of South Asians. They only difference is their Caucasoid components are different.

http://thomaslauer.com/images/travel/nepal/2n04.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-08XdL8XF0SM/UNAbDzKj8dI/AAAAAAAAAko/uQiuprNMybk/s1600/newari+girl+with+small+baby.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2468/4210913430_bb54905978.jpg
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQNjTukzqM4B2iqPlUHOZovkYgn_opx0 UtFxJg0NXH58KtaGLKw
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/laW6jok5GLU/0.jpg

ButlerKing
09-13-2013, 11:14 PM
http://www.noraphotos.com/img/s11/v34/p367503668-3.jpg
http://www.inf.org/files/Nepal-people23.jpg

ButlerKing
09-13-2013, 11:18 PM
Nepalese with blue eyes and green eyes


http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmy26wYzj11qlsr3bo1_400.jpg
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRLwq6dluQ0G2y-thUn_ypqkc0BiCR-hC2rLsUNr5euC89bnolI
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6009/5984722950_cf68c3466a_z.jpg

Kiyant
09-13-2013, 11:19 PM
I dont really think Nepalese in general look Turanid they look more Indian/Chinese

ButlerKing
09-13-2013, 11:21 PM
Blonde hair Nepalese
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-gb2ABDeN1TU/TY6dztfBk2I/AAAAAAAAAgM/6yAiMCRl8oE/s1600/street+kids7.jpg

Blue eyes Nepalese

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmy24vI0Dv1qlsr3bo1_400.jpg

ButlerKing
09-13-2013, 11:29 PM
I dont really think Nepalese in general look Turanid they look more Indian/Chinese

Well Turanid are mixture of Mongoloid and Caucasoid like Central Asians but so are Nepalese. Although North Indian Caucasoid also have 30% South Indian. Is generally considered a mixture of Mongoloid and Caucasoid. Chinese and Mongolian have no racial difference, I really don't care for the slight difference in their faces is meaningless to me. However I do agree that the Caucasoid components of North Indian and Central Asians are different.

Regardless their still a mixture of Mongoloid/Caucasoid so in term of skull shape their more similar to Central Asians

http://www.globaltimes.cn/Portals/0/attachment/2011/7e18aa9b-694c-49bd-95e8-e47d1f28dc1a.jpg
http://www.volunteeringnepal.org/images/blogs/children%201.jpg
http://ai.stanford.edu/~latombe/mountain/photo/nepal-traverse-08-11/nepal-traverse-08-11_files/image031.jpg

Kiyant
09-13-2013, 11:32 PM
I never thought of Indians as Caucasoid the caucasoid mix of the Turkics are Iranians/Slavs or whatever there was at that time(Scythians and others) and not Indians or Pakis/Bengali.

blogen
09-13-2013, 11:35 PM
The Turanid is an racial type not a genetic mixture. Turanid = Cromagnoid + Mongoloid. The scientific name of the Caucasoid + Mongoloid mix is the Europo-Mongoloid.

The basic Europo-Mongoloid types:
Lappoid*: unknown elements (proto-Alpinid?+Uralid?)
Uralid: unknown elements
Yenisei type: unknown elements
Baikal type: unknown elements
Turanid: Cromagnoid+Mongoloid
Pamirid: Taurid+Turanid (later Pamirid+Mongoloid)
South Himalayan type**: Indid+Mongoloid
Munda type**: unknown elements (Indid?+paleo-Mongoloid?)

*only the non Caucasian Lappoids!
**not official terminology

ButlerKing
09-13-2013, 11:35 PM
I never thought of Indians as Caucasoid the caucasoid mix of the Turkics are Iranians/Slavs or whatever there was at that time(Scythians and others) and not Indians or Pakis/Bengali.

North Indian and Pakistani are considered Caucasoid, it's only the central Indian and south Indians that are not.

For example the Punjabi are considered Caucasoid with some weddid admixture but that's it

http://sikhsangat.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Sri-Guru-Nanak-Sat-Sangh-Sa.jpg
http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj637/mya5671/himanchali-1.jpg

ButlerKing
09-13-2013, 11:39 PM
The Turanid is an racial type not a genetic mixture. Turanid = Cromagnoid + Mongoloid. The scientific name of the Caucasoid + Mongoloid mix is the Europo-Mongoloid.

The basic Europo-Mongoloid types:
Lappoid*: unknown elements (proto-Alpinid?+Uralid?)
Uralid: unknown elements
Yenisei type: unknown elements
Baikal type: unknown elements
Turanid: Cromagnoid+Mongoloid
Pamirid: Taurid+Turanid (later Pamirid+Mongoloid)
South Himalayan type**: Indid+Mongoloid
Munda type**: unknown elements (Indid?+paleo-Mongoloid?)

*only the non Caucasian Lappoids!
**not official terminology


Munda are autraloid with mongoloid admixture not caucasoid

blogen
09-13-2013, 11:47 PM
Munda are autraloid with mongoloid admixture not caucasoid

Yes, the Veddoids are a considerable element in the Munda type.

ButlerKing
09-13-2013, 11:47 PM
Yes, the Veddoids are a considerable element in the Munda type.

Exactly so they shouldn't be considered Caucasoid like in your list.

Shah-Jehan
09-13-2013, 11:50 PM
There's no ethnicity called Nepalese, it's a multi-ethnic nation...

ButlerKing
09-13-2013, 11:52 PM
There's no ethnicity called Nepalese, it's a multi-ethnic nation...

But DNA shows all of them have Mongoloid and South Asian admixture

blogen
09-13-2013, 11:53 PM
Exactly so they shouldn't be considered Caucasoid like in your list.

Caucasoid+Veddoid+paleo-Mongoloid. The situation in East-Deccan is somewhat more complicated.

Shah-Jehan
09-13-2013, 11:54 PM
But DNA shows all of them have Mongoloid admixture

What ethnicity exactly? Nepal has 102 ethnic groups...

ButlerKing
09-13-2013, 11:55 PM
Caucasoid+Veddoid+paleo-Mongoloid. The situation in East-Deccan is somewhat more complicated.

They have heavily south Indian, very little caucasoid with substantial mongoloid DNA.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/files/2010/10/munda1.png

blogen
09-13-2013, 11:57 PM
They have heavily south Indian, very little caucasoid with substantial mongoloid DNA.

You talk about genes or races?

ButlerKing
09-13-2013, 11:58 PM
You talk about genes or races?

Both, anyway the point of the chart is to tell you Munda are not even Caucasoid ,they have little caucasoid DNA.

blogen
09-13-2013, 11:59 PM
Both, anyway the point of the chart is to tell you Munda are not even Caucasoid ,they have little caucasoid DNA.

That is true. The Mundas is an multiracial group, but we know this not from the genes.

Visitor_22
09-25-2013, 06:49 AM
Actually I don't understand the meaning of turanid race. Is it eurasian (1/2 caucasian, 1/2) race? I think turanid race doesn't even existed.
Original turanians were caucasoid aryans who looked like modern tajiks and afghans...