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Atlantic Islander
09-19-2013, 08:09 AM
Village Of Cannibals: Herxheim, Germany
By Nene Adams on Sunday, July 28, 2013


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“I believe in compulsory cannibalism. If people were forced to eat what they killed, there would be no more wars.” —Abbie Hoffman

In a Nutshell

Archaeological excavations at a site in Herxheim in southwestern Germany unearthed Stone Age mass graves with hundreds of human remains. The bones showed evidence of cannibalism. Exactly what happened and why these victims were butchered and eaten remains a subject of debate and bafflement.


The Whole Bushel

According to the lead anthropologist’s findings in 2009, the inhabitants of the settlement at Herxheim began expertly skinning and butchering other people—men, women, children, infants, and even a fetus, in around 5000 B.C.

The bones discovered at the site had tool marks showing where the meat had been scraped off. Other bones were broken open to allow access to the marrow, skulls were smashed for possible brain extraction, and the tongues were cut out. Certain patterns on the bones may indicate some of the victims were spit-roasted. While there is no doubt the victims were ritually slaughtered, some archaeologists remain doubtful the meat was consumed.

Distinct pottery fragments found with the bones of at least 500 people indicate the victims weren’t locals. For an unknown reason, they came from all over Europe, drawn to undertake difficult journeys to Herxheim from as far as 400 kilometers (250 mi) away.

Why the victims came to the village and why the people of Herxheim smashed their pottery, killed the people, and chopped them up is a mystery. By 4950 B.C., the small, enigmatic village at Herxheim was abandoned by its inhabitants for reasons which may not ever be determined (but certainly might have something to do with all the ritual sacrifice going on).


Show Me The Proof

Stone Age Mystery: German Excavation Reveals Signs of Mass Cannibalism (http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/stone-age-mystery-german-excavation-reveals-signs-of-mass-cannibalism-a-665824.html)
Mass cannibalism in the Linear Pottery Culture at Herxheim (http://www.academia.edu/1403683/Cannibalism_in_the_Linear_Pottery_culture_at_Herxh eim_Palatinate_Germany_)
National Geographic: Lost Cannibals of Europe
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9sa5y8YZhY)
source (http://knowledgenuts.com/2013/07/28/village-of-cannibals-herxheim-germany/)

Prisoner Of Ice
09-19-2013, 12:39 PM
I wish they would do genetic tests to see what's going on here.

There's some thought that the people who came to west europe after the neanderthals were all cannibals and ate them, and also that the farmers who later came were cooking and eating the hunter gatherers and vice versa. It would be nice to get to the bottom of all this cannibalism, it's starting to seem like basically everyone was cannibals until not long ago.

Atlantic Islander
09-25-2013, 09:07 PM
I wish they would do genetic tests to see what's going on here.

There's some thought that the people who came to west europe after the neanderthals were all cannibals and ate them, and also that the farmers who later came were cooking and eating the hunter gatherers and vice versa. It would be nice to get to the bottom of all this cannibalism, it's starting to seem like basically everyone was cannibals until not long ago.

How morbid. ;)

Vesuvian Sky
09-26-2013, 02:17 AM
That's interesting that this was during the LBK horizon. More and more research is showing the Neolithicization of Europe, particularly during the LBK, to have been rather violent times:

Beating ploughshares back into swords: warfare in the
Linearbandkeramik
Mark Golitko & Lawrence H. Keeley (http://www.academia.edu/215068/Beating_Ploughshares_back_into_Swords)


Armed with a number of powerful arguments, the authors invite us to face up to the evidence for violence in early Neolithic Europe.
Linearbandkeramik (LBK) people first attacked the hunter- gatherers they encountered and then entered a period of increasingly violent warfare against each other, culminating in an intense struggle in the area of central and western Germany. The building of fortifications, physical mutilation and cannibalism, while no doubt enacted withritual airs, nevertheless had their context and purpose in the slaughter of enemies.

Keywords: Europe, Neolithic, LBK, fortification, warfare, mutilation, cannibalism

edite: this was actually an older paper BTW.

Atlantic Islander
01-07-2014, 12:55 AM
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Vesuvian Sky
01-07-2014, 01:13 AM
:icon_hungry::yumyum:

Prisoner Of Ice
01-07-2014, 03:14 AM
So it looks like it was the farmers cannibalizing the hunter gatherers then.

Atlantic Islander
01-07-2014, 03:17 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9sa5y8YZhY

Atlantic Islander
01-07-2014, 03:19 AM
So it looks like it was the farmers cannibalizing the hunter gatherers then.

It says the settlement ceased to exist, if it was the farmers they wouldn't just cease to exist.

Atlantic Islander
01-07-2014, 03:24 AM
Was it mass cannibalism, ritual slaughter or both? Archaeologists who unearthed the remains of 500 Stone Age corpses in the German town of Herxheim say the meat was cut off their bones as if they were livestock. One conclusion is that the people were eaten -- after volunteering to be sacrificed.

How do you carve up a cow? First you cut the meat off the bones. You start by severing the muscles from the joints with a sharp knife. The fibrous meat can then easily be scraped off, from top to bottom. After you've removed the flesh there's still a lot of goodness left. Deep in the long bones and vertebrae lies the marrow. To get at this delicacy you smash the bones and scrape out the marrow or simply boil it out in water. What's left is a pile of naked bones with traces of scratching and scraping as well as the small debris of bone that contained marrow.

Archaeologists found just such a pile -- a huge one -- when they were excavating a Stone Age settlement in the small town of Herxheim in south-western Germany. The only difference is that the bones aren't from cattle. Researchers found the carefully scraped remains of some 500 humans, and they haven't even excavated half the site. "We expect the number of dead to be twice as high," said Andrea Zeeb-Lanz, project leader of the Cultural Heritage Agency of the state of Rhineland-Palatinate.

That's a lot of corpses for a tiny Stone Age village. There were 10 buildings at most here in the last phase of the Linear Pottery culture of the European Neolithic Age around 5,000 to 4,950 years BC. The corpses weren't native to this area, researchers have discovered. They came from all over Europe -- from the area of what is now Paris, from the Moselle River 100 kilometers to the northwest and even from the Elbe River valley some 400 kilometers away. The broken bits of pottery lying between their ribs reveal their origin. It's the so-called Linear Pottery that gave the entire population group its name: decorated with linear patterns pressed into the moist clay while it was being made.

Butchered by Experts

The strangers brought only the finest pottery from their home regions -- in many cases even more beautiful than the pottery they placed inside the graves of their own dead at home. But the pottery was smashed to pieces and scattered over the bones, along with brand new millstones and stone blades. Everything was hacked to pieces, broken up, mixed together and poured into pits.

The anthropolgist Bruno Boulestin conducted a close examination of the bone fragments. He published his findings from one pit eight meters long in the latest edition of Antiquity magazine. The pit contained a total of 1,906 bone fragments from at least 10 people. Two of them were infants or still-born children, one was a fetus in the 34th to 36th week of pregnancy, there were two children aged six and 15 and six adults, at least one of whom was male.

All of them -- babies, children, adults -- were butchered by expert hands while the bones were still fresh, as the breaks and cuts show. Boulestin concluded that the human bones bore the same marks as those of slaughtered livestock, and that the dead of Herxheim were prepared as meals. He believes that marks on the bones indicate that body parts were cooked on skewers. His conclusions contradict other researchers who believe the meat was taken off the bones as part of a burial ritual, and wasn't eaten.

No Signs of Battle Wounds

Who were the dead? Conquered enemies perhaps? Probably not, because the bones showed no signs of battle wounds. None of the skulls found was smashed, and there were no arrow heads between the ribs. The dead of Herxheim appear to have been in good health when they died. Their joints weren't worn down, their teech were in exceptionally good condition and there was no sign of malnutrition.

The theory of conquered enemies also seems unlikely given that the small group of Herxheim villagers is unlikely to have vanquished people hundreds of kilometers away and dragged 1,000 of them back to their little hamlet in the space of just 50 years. "One could also imagine that people volunteered to come here and be ritually sacrificed," Zeeb-Lanz told SPIEGEL ONLINE.

So what happed in Herxheim at the start of the fifth millennium BC? It's clear that the hamlet quickly came to fame. It had been a sleepy, uneventful place since the so-called Flomborn Phase around 5,300 years BC. But around the turn of the millennium something happened that caused people from all over Europe to make pilgrimages to this place -- a sensational feat of logistics and communication for that age.

Only 50 Years of Fame

But it didn't last long. By 4,950 BC everything was over. After that there were no more deaths in Herxheim because the settlement ceased to exist. It's a puzzling phenomenon for archaeologists because 50 years is an extremely short time for a place of such significance. "And 50 year is the maximum," says Zeeb-Lanz. "It could all have happened in just two years or even five weeks."

It's clear that it wasn't hunger that drove the inhabitants of this mysterious hamlet to carve up humans. What they did with their victims was part of a ritual, a religious ceremony. This includes the mysterious treatment of human skulls. First the skin was peeled off them. All it took was a cut across the length of the head and the skin could be peeled off the sides. Then a blow to the face at the front and the base of the neck at the back, and two blows each at the sides -- the result looks like a drinking vessel.

"But probably nobody drank from them. The edges are still so sharp today that one would cut one's lips on them," says Zeeb-Lanz. Archeologists found these prepared skulls piled together in one place. "The more research conduct, the more mysterious this place becomes."

But did the Herxheimers really devour the dead? It's impossible to prove that archaeologically. Boulestin is sure they did, but not all members of the excavation team agree with him. Project leader Zeeb-Lanz is careful too: "We mustn't forget that this was no giant settlement. Who is supposed to have eaten all this?"


source (http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/stone-age-mystery-german-excavation-reveals-signs-of-mass-cannibalism-a-665824.html)

Ultra
01-07-2014, 03:34 AM
Nice!

McCauley
01-07-2014, 03:35 AM
Are you trying to slander Germanics?:eek:

Prisoner Of Ice
01-07-2014, 03:39 AM
It says the settlement ceased to exist, if it was the farmers they wouldn't just cease to exist.

I was talking about what vesuvius posted. It looks like the LBK farmers were cannibals, and this town is some kind of religious thing or else the result of a very large drought (which happened at one point and wiped out most the farmers).

Ultra
01-07-2014, 03:44 AM
I was talking about what vesuvius posted. It looks like the LBK farmers were cannibals, and this town is some kind of religious thing or else the result of a very large drought (which happened at one point and wiped out most the farmers).
Interesting. Got any interesting links to share about this??

Atlantic Islander
01-07-2014, 03:46 AM
Are you trying to slander Germanics?:eek:

:confused:

I didn't write the article.

Prisoner Of Ice
01-07-2014, 03:52 AM
Interesting. Got any interesting links to share about this??

http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2013/09/neolithic-boom-and-bust-in-ireland.html

Basically neolithic farmers came, almost wiped out the hunter gatherers, then got almost wiped out themselves and the end result was the modern populations (pre mass immigration).

Ultra
01-07-2014, 03:57 AM
http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2013/09/neolithic-boom-and-bust-in-ireland.html

Basically neolithic farmers came, almost wiped out the hunter gatherers, then got almost wiped out themselves and the end result was the modern populations (pre mass immigration).
Damn, those evil swarthoid farmers! :heh: