Palestinian murders IDF soldier in West Bank

[ariel]

Nidal Amer, 42, convinces Sgt. Tomer Hazan - his co-worker at Bat Yam restaurant - to travel with him to his home; murders him, dump his body in well with aim of using body in negotiations to release his terrorist brother from Israeli jail

Sergeant Tomer Hazan, 20, an IDF soldier from Bat Yam, was murdered in the West Bank, it has been cleared for publication.



Shin Bet and special police forces raided the home of terrorist Nidal Amer, 42, from Beit Amin and discovered he had murdered Hazan in order to use his body to free his brother, a member of the Tanzim, who has been held in Israel for the past 10 years for involvement in terrorist attacks.




According to the investigation, the Shin Bet received a report about a missing soldier on Friday evening and set up a joint command room together with the IDF.


At the same time, the Shin Bet also received a report that the missing soldier had shared a taxi together with Nidal Amer, a resident of Beit Amin, a Palestinian village in the West Bank, to Shaarei Tikva, a town near the village.

Following the report, special army forces raided the Amer family home and arrested Nidal, his brother and additional Palestinian suspects.



During questioning, Nidal admitted he persuaded the soldier, who had worked with him in a restaurant in Bat Yam, to travel with him to his home in the village. When the two arrived at the village, Nidal took the soldier to an open field north of the village of Siniria, where he murdered him. He then dumped his body in a well.

After his interrogation, Nidal took security forces to the site and said he had committed the act in order to use the soldier's body to free his brother, who is serving a sentence at an Israeli jail. Nidal's brother, Nur al-Adin, Amar, is a Tanzim operative held in Israel since 2008.

Palestinian sources told Ynet that the village is under a lock-down. According to Palestinian security forces, the IDF is canvassing the area in search of weapons. It was further reported that six or seven people, all members of the same family, were arrested on suspicion of arms trafficking.



Large security forces arrived at the crime scene Saturday morning. IDF officers arrived at the home of the soldier's family.


http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4431801,00.html

[Manifest Destiny]

Hostages make better bargaining chips when they're alive, don't they?

[Lucifer]

it's called resistance when you kill someone who occupies you, israhelli army is like waffel ss

[Manifest Destiny]

it's called resistance when you kill someone who occupies you, israhelli army is like waffel ss

Waffel SS, the breakfast Nazis.

[ariel]

it's called resistance when you kill someone who occupies you, israhelli army is like waffel ss

we tried to make peace with them several times before. But they still continue to makes terror attacks.

[Lucifer]

Palestinian murders IDF soldier in West Bank

you can kill palestinians in israell, in gaza, west bank, but they can't kill you in west bank? this is hypocrite.

[FrostDragon]

This is one of many reasons why death penalty should be constituted in Israel; the only person ever to be executed in Israel was Adolf Eichmann.

[ariel]

you can kill palestinians in israell, in gaza, west bank, but they can't kill you in west bank? this is hypocrite.

YOU THE MUSLIMS KNOW ONLY TO KILL PEOPLE NON-MUSLIMS AND OTHER MUSLIMS :bullet puke

[Hadouken]

nice

[FrostDragon]

you can kill palestinians in israell, in gaza, west bank, but they can't kill you in west bank? this is hypocrite.

It's not like you actually give a crap about the Palestinians, it's just "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" kind of thing.

[Pontios]

it's called resistance when you kill someone who occupies you, israhelli army is like waffel ss

Israelis have out passed Satan already...

[ariel]

nice

what nice about this?

[Lucifer]

YOU THE MUSLIMS KNOW ONLY TO KILL PEOPLE NON-MUSLIMS AND OTHER MUSLIMS :bullet puke

this is the picture : israel occupies west bank, an occupant soldier was killed by a local man, this is an act of war.
you think it's ok to bomb palestinian children with white phosphorus but not for palestinian answer? :rolleyes:

[daedal1]

YOU THE MUSLIMS KNOW ONLY TO KILL PEOPLE NON-MUSLIMS AND OTHER MUSLIMS :bullet puke

What about George Habash?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Habash


"In 1970, Habash masterminded the hijackings of four Western airliners over the United States, Europe, the Far East and the Persian Gulf. The aircraft were blown up, after the passengers and crews were forced to disembark.

The Dawson's Field hijackings of 1970 were instrumental in provoking the Black September crackdown, which came close to destroying the PLO. The hijackings led King Hussein of Jordan to carry out a major offensive against militant strongholds in his kingdom resulting in the deaths of thousands of Palestinians.[6] In autumn 1970, Habash visited Beijing. After Black September, the PLO fedayeen relocated to Lebanon."

[ariel]

this is the picture : Israel occupies west bank, an occupant soldier was killed by a local man, this is an act of war.
You think it's ok to bomb palestinian children with white phosphorus but not for palestinian answer? :rolleyes:

we not occupaies anything.we tried to make peace with these al qaeda animals...but animals are still animals.

[daedal1]

we not occupaies anything.we tried to make peace with these al qaeda animals...but animals are still animals.

what about the hezbollah animals?

[ariel]

What about George Habash?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Habash


"In 1970, Habash masterminded the hijackings of four Western airliners over the United States, Europe, the Far East and the Persian Gulf. The aircraft were blown up, after the passengers and crews were forced to disembark.

The Dawson's Field hijackings of 1970 were instrumental in provoking the Black September crackdown, which came close to destroying the PLO. The hijackings led King Hussein of Jordan to carry out a major offensive against militant strongholds in his kingdom resulting in the deaths of thousands of Palestinians.[6] In autumn 1970, Habash visited Beijing. After Black September, the PLO fedayeen relocated to Lebanon."

very rare case

look at this one

'A new spirit' among Israeli Arab Christians

Israeli Vice Prime Minister Shaul Mofaz last month declared that a "new spirit" had taken hold in the Israeli Arab Christian community after meeting with a group of young Arabic-speaking Christians determined to be a part of and to serve the Jewish state.

"Civil courage is a very important thing," Mofaz told Israel's Channel 2 News. For decades Israel's Christian community were too cowed by their Muslim neighbors to openly stand with Israel. "The Christian population is very special," and it is great to see them opening up like this, Mofaz continued.

The minister and leader of the Kadima Party made his remarks following a personal visit to the home of Nazareth-area priest Gabriel Nadaf, who has been actively encouraging young local Christians to join the Israeli army and fully integrate with Israeli society.

During the visit, Mofaz met Regda Jerisi, a young Christian woman who has become outspoken in her intention to voluntarily defend the Jewish state, and has even publicly taken to task hostile Arab Knesset members who dare to speak in her name.

"I am proud of this position, because I feel that I am a part of the nation, I am Israeli, and with God's help, after I marry, my children will also join the IDF," Jerisi said in an interview with an Arabic newspaper.

Taking aim at Israeli Arab Knesset members who constantly attack the Jewish state, Jerisi said, "I do not understand these extremists who receive everything from the state, but can still betray her."


One Arab MK in particular, Hanan Zoabi, has been on a mission to silence Father Nadaf and put an end to his movement to bring Jews and Christians closer together.

Jerisi responded to Zoabi in an open letter that made waves in the Israeli media:

"Shalom MK Zoabi,

"My name is Regda Jerisi. I am a Christian who speaks Arabic, but not an Arab. I request with all due respect that you not state in the name of the Christians that we are 'Palestinians.'

"Listen well - we are not Palestinians. We are Israeli Christians, and our hearts and spirits are covered in blue and white [the national colors of Israel]."

In his interview, Mofaz said he was "very impressed by the character of Father Gabriel and the young people with him," in particular young Regda.

"Regda and the rest of these young people represent a new spirit in the Christian population," said Mofaz. "Regda and the young Christians are making themselves heard on this matter, and we bless them for it."

That recognition and hope of support from Mofaz and other Israeli officials is exactly what Father Nadaf had been pressing for. The priest warned that if Israel itself did not support this "new spirit," antagonists like Zoabi would ultimately be successful in squashing the movement


http://www.israeltoday.co.il/NewsItem/tabid/178/nid/24037/Default.aspx

[Pontios]

we not occupaies anything.we tried to make peace with these al qaeda animals...but animals are still animals.

So what do you call Gaza then? :lol: If they are not occupied, they wouldn't have Israeli troops going through their land and killing people they see as threats...

And if you are not occupying them, then you are at war with them, then they have the right to kill you all on sight.

[ariel]

what about the hezbollah animals?

terrorists

[ariel]

So what do you call Gaza then? :lol: If they are not occupied, they wouldn't have Israeli troops going through their land and killing people they see as threats...

And if you are not occupying them, then you are at war with them, then they have the right to kill you all on sight.

dont forget who these gazan chose muslim brotherhood as their leadership-hamas,this their fault.

the egyptians also fighting with them as a part of the war against terrorism

http://www.irinnews.org/report/98774/egyptian-border-restrictions-create-misery-in-gaza

[Pontios]

dont forget who these gazan chose muslim brotherhood as their leadership-hamas,this their fault.

the egyptians also fighting with them as a part of the war against terrorism

http://www.irinnews.org/report/98774/egyptian-border-restrictions-create-misery-in-gaza

Ah yes, they forgot to ask Israel about who they can choose for their leaders.

[ariel]

ah yes, they forgot to ask israel about who they can choose for their leaders.

if you choosing terroristic group as your leaders its your fault.sorry.

[daedal1]

very rare case

look at this one

'A new spirit' among Israeli Arab Christians

Israeli Vice Prime Minister Shaul Mofaz last month declared that a "new spirit" had taken hold in the Israeli Arab Christian community after meeting with a group of young Arabic-speaking Christians determined to be a part of and to serve the Jewish state.

"Civil courage is a very important thing," Mofaz told Israel's Channel 2 News. For decades Israel's Christian community were too cowed by their Muslim neighbors to openly stand with Israel. "The Christian population is very special," and it is great to see them opening up like this, Mofaz continued.

The minister and leader of the Kadima Party made his remarks following a personal visit to the home of Nazareth-area priest Gabriel Nadaf, who has been actively encouraging young local Christians to join the Israeli army and fully integrate with Israeli society.

During the visit, Mofaz met Regda Jerisi, a young Christian woman who has become outspoken in her intention to voluntarily defend the Jewish state, and has even publicly taken to task hostile Arab Knesset members who dare to speak in her name.

"I am proud of this position, because I feel that I am a part of the nation, I am Israeli, and with God's help, after I marry, my children will also join the IDF," Jerisi said in an interview with an Arabic newspaper.

Taking aim at Israeli Arab Knesset members who constantly attack the Jewish state, Jerisi said, "I do not understand these extremists who receive everything from the state, but can still betray her."


One Arab MK in particular, Hanan Zoabi, has been on a mission to silence Father Nadaf and put an end to his movement to bring Jews and Christians closer together.

Jerisi responded to Zoabi in an open letter that made waves in the Israeli media:

"Shalom MK Zoabi,

"My name is Regda Jerisi. I am a Christian who speaks Arabic, but not an Arab. I request with all due respect that you not state in the name of the Christians that we are 'Palestinians.'

"Listen well - we are not Palestinians. We are Israeli Christians, and our hearts and spirits are covered in blue and white [the national colors of Israel]."

In his interview, Mofaz said he was "very impressed by the character of Father Gabriel and the young people with him," in particular young Regda.

"Regda and the rest of these young people represent a new spirit in the Christian population," said Mofaz. "Regda and the young Christians are making themselves heard on this matter, and we bless them for it."

That recognition and hope of support from Mofaz and other Israeli officials is exactly what Father Nadaf had been pressing for. The priest warned that if Israel itself did not support this "new spirit," antagonists like Zoabi would ultimately be successful in squashing the movement


http://www.israeltoday.co.il/NewsItem/tabid/178/nid/24037/Default.aspx

Wadie Haddad

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wadie_Haddad

"After the 1967 Six Day War, the Palestinian wing of the ANM transformed into a socialist Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), under the leadership of Habash. Haddad became the leader of the military wing of the group, involved in organizing attacks on Israeli targets. He helped plan the first PFLP aircraft hijacking in 1968, when an Israeli El Al plane was hijacked. He argued for and organized hijackings, despite criticism against the PFLP from within the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO).
The Dawson's Field hijackings of 1970, when PFLP members including Leila Khaled brought three passenger jets to Jordan, helped provoke the bloody fighting of Black September. After the expulsion of the PLO factions from Jordan, Haddad was subjected to harsh criticism from the PFLP, which was in turn under pressure from the rest of the PLO. Haddad was ordered not to attack targets outside of Israel, but he continued operations under the name of Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine - External Operations (PFLP-EO). Haddad was expelled from the organization PFLP in 1973.
He also employed the services of Ilich Ramírez Sánchez, better known as "Carlos the Jackal", whom he had met in 1970 and trained in guerrilla warfare techniques. Haddad decided to expel Sánchez from his team after he had been accused of refusing to kill two hostages, and possibly stealing ransom money, following the 1975 assault on the OPEC conference in Vienna. Haddad organized the Entebbe hijacking in June 1976."

Sirhan Sirhan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirhan_Sirhan

"Sirhan Bishara Sirhan (Arabic: سرحان بشارة سرحان‎, Sirḥān Bishārah Sirḥān; born March 19, 1944) is a Palestinian with Jordanian citizenship who was convicted for the assassination of United States Senator Robert F. Kennedy. He is serving a life sentence at Pleasant Valley State Prison in Coalinga, California.[1]
"
Nayef Hawatmeh

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayef_Hawatmeh

"He presently resides in exile in Syria, from which the DFLP receives some support; Israel blames the DFLP for the 1974 Ma'alot massacre, and so will not permit him to enter the Palestinian territories."

[ariel]

Wadie Haddad

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wadie_Haddad

Sirhan Sirhan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirhan_Sirhan

Nayef Hawatmeh

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayef_Hawatmeh

THIS BELONG TO THE HISTORY

NOW WE ARE LIVING IN DIFFERENT TIMES

Father Gabriel Nadaf: We’re Christians….Not Christians Arabs

Israeli Christians should not be classified as Arabs, since the historical ethnic background of Christians in Israel is a mix of Jewish, Greek, Roman, Assyrian & other such peoples all of whom were here long before the Arab Muslims showed up.

Father Gabriel Nadaf, a Greek Orthodox priest from the area of Nazareth, continues to make headlines in the Israeli press for advocating a new alliance between local Jews and Christians in service to the State of Israel.



In an interview with Israeli website News1, Nadaf said that Christians are tired of living as dhimmis (second-class citizens) in the Muslim world, and are starting to understand that the Jewish state is their ticket out of that situation.

But Israel itself has been holding these Christians back, even if unwittingly.


According to Nadaf, Israel needs to stop classifying local Christians as “Arabs.” As he explained to News1, the historical ethnic background of Christians in Israel is a mix of Jewish, Greek, Roman, Assyrian and other such peoples all of whom were here long before the Arab Muslims showed up.

It is true that in the early decades of Israel’s rebirth a majority of local Christians threw their lot in with the Muslims, fearing the Jews didn’t stand a chance, and that the Christians would be punished as collaborators after Israel was defeated.

But that is all changing, and more and more Christians are openly identifying themselves with Israel, or as allies of Israel.

Take for instance the former South Lebanese Army (SLA), a powerful Christian militia that fought alongside the Israeli army during its years in Lebanon. Nadaf said that Israel’s abandonment of the SLA when it abruptly pulled out of Lebanon in 2000 was representative of its second major error when it comes to dealing with local Christians.

Israel has proved that Islam is not all powerful in this region, and can be defeated. And Israel has allies in this cause in the Christian communities across the Middle East. But Israel must inspire confidence in the Christians by standing unwaveringly at their side against the Muslim threat.


http://www.israelandstuff.com/father-gabriel-nadaf-were-christains-not-christain-arabs

[daedal1]

THIS BELONG TO THE HISTORY

NOW WE ARE LIVING IN DIFFERENT TIMES

Father Gabriel Nadaf: We’re Christians….Not Christians Arabs

Israeli Christians should not be classified as Arabs, since the historical ethnic background of Christians in Israel is a mix of Jewish, Greek, Roman, Assyrian & other such peoples all of whom were here long before the Arab Muslims showed up.

Father Gabriel Nadaf, a Greek Orthodox priest from the area of Nazareth, continues to make headlines in the Israeli press for advocating a new alliance between local Jews and Christians in service to the State of Israel.



In an interview with Israeli website News1, Nadaf said that Christians are tired of living as dhimmis (second-class citizens) in the Muslim world, and are starting to understand that the Jewish state is their ticket out of that situation.

But Israel itself has been holding these Christians back, even if unwittingly.


According to Nadaf, Israel needs to stop classifying local Christians as “Arabs.” As he explained to News1, the historical ethnic background of Christians in Israel is a mix of Jewish, Greek, Roman, Assyrian and other such peoples all of whom were here long before the Arab Muslims showed up.

It is true that in the early decades of Israel’s rebirth a majority of local Christians threw their lot in with the Muslims, fearing the Jews didn’t stand a chance, and that the Christians would be punished as collaborators after Israel was defeated.

But that is all changing, and more and more Christians are openly identifying themselves with Israel, or as allies of Israel.

Take for instance the former South Lebanese Army (SLA), a powerful Christian militia that fought alongside the Israeli army during its years in Lebanon. Nadaf said that Israel’s abandonment of the SLA when it abruptly pulled out of Lebanon in 2000 was representative of its second major error when it comes to dealing with local Christians.

Israel has proved that Islam is not all powerful in this region, and can be defeated. And Israel has allies in this cause in the Christian communities across the Middle East. But Israel must inspire confidence in the Christians by standing unwaveringly at their side against the Muslim threat.


http://www.israelandstuff.com/father-gabriel-nadaf-were-christains-not-christain-arabs

What do you think about events like this?

http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/ultra-orthodox-spitting-attacks-on-old-city-clergymen-becoming-daily-1.393669

Ultra-Orthodox spitting attacks on Old City clergymen becoming daily


Ultra-Orthodox young men curse and spit at Christian clergymen in the streets of Jerusalem's Old City as a matter of routine. In most cases the clergymen ignore the attacks, but sometimes they strike back. Last week the Jerusalem Magistrate's Court quashed the indictment against an Armenian priesthood student who had punched the man who spat at him.

[ariel]

What do you think about events like this?

http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/ultra-orthodox-spitting-attacks-on-old-city-clergymen-becoming-daily-1.393669

Ultra-Orthodox spitting attacks on Old City clergymen becoming daily


Ultra-Orthodox young men curse and spit at Christian clergymen in the streets of Jerusalem's Old City as a matter of routine. In most cases the clergymen ignore the attacks, but sometimes they strike back. Last week the Jerusalem Magistrate's Court quashed the indictment against an Armenian priesthood student who had punched the man who spat at him.

these orthodox are minority among the israeli population , they curse and spit also on seculars jews

[daedal1]

these orthodox are minority among the israeli population , they curse and spit also on seculars jews

The christians can't say anything against them as it would be 'anti-semitism', only the secular jews can criticize them.

[ariel]

The christians can't say anything against them as it would be 'anti-semitism', only the secular jews can criticize them.

the police taking cases like this seriouslly .

[daedal1]

the police taking cases like this seriouslly .

For secular jews, maybe, but are you sure about christians?

[RandoBloom]

we tried to make peace with them several times before. But they still continue to makes terror attacks.

I saw that peacemaking a few years ago. What was it, 1000+ dead civilians in a month of conflict :D
I think palestinians still have 900+ jews to bludgeon to equalize the situation.
After that, feel free to call them criminals :)

[ariel]

For secular jews, maybe, but are you sure about christians?

yes im sure :)

[RandoBloom]

yes im sure :)

Bullshit.
No one was ever punishet. Most what hapened was a simbolical punishment and a fine. Nothing is done to destroy the orthodox jewish custom like that

[ariel]

Bullshit.
No one was ever punishet. Most what hapened was a simbolical punishment and a fine. Nothing is done to destroy the orthodox jewish custom like that

you haveno right for speack , muslims killing christians worldwide everyday, they worst than these orthodox jews.

[RandoBloom]

you haveno right for speack , muslims killing christians worldwide everyday, they worst than these orthodox jews.

Look, its muslims fighting christians who invaded them, let me do nothing about my radicals who spit on non jews hahahaha :D

[daedal1]

you haveno right for speack , muslims killing christians worldwide everyday, they worst than these orthodox jews.

So, christians should have to choose between one form of humiliation and subordination and another? [There is a difference with ethnic cleansing, but either case is not an ideal situation to strive for, why should they have to sacrifice anything?]

[RandoBloom]

So, christians should have to choose between one form of humiliation and subordination and another? [There is a difference with ethnic cleansing, but either case is not an ideal situation to strive for, why should they have to sacrifice anything?]

Because there are muslims who are fighting against you :D
And even though Israel cant do anything more than opress muslims more, it isnt going to do what it can stop orthodox jews from being animals

[Manifest Destiny]

For secular jews, maybe, but are you sure about christians?

The article said a judge threw out the assault charges against an Armenian Christian who punched the Jewish guy who spat on him. Good.

[ariel]

Look, its muslims fighting christians who invaded them, let me do nothing about my radicals who spit on non jews hahahaha :D

REALY? THE CHRISTIANS IN THE MIDDLE EAST ARE NATIVE POPULATION AND STILL MUSLIMS ATTACKING THEM EVERYDAY



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTN9VU0CbaM

[daedal1]

Because there are muslims who are fighting against you :D
And even though Israel cant do anything more than opress muslims more, it isnt going to do what it can stop orthodox jews from being animals

Because ashkenazis (including orthodox ashkenazis) can do whatever they want, as they created Israel, right?

[RandoBloom]

REALY? THE CHRISTIANS IN THE MIDDLE EAST ARE NATIVE POPULATION AND STILL MUSLIMS ATTACKING THEM EVERYDAY



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTN9VU0CbaM

Source:
Jewish News 1 :D
I already asked you to provide evidence for MB doing that. You feel like doing that?

[RandoBloom]

Because ashkenazis (including orthodox ashkenazis) can do whatever they want, as they created Israel, right?

I remember watching a documentary, children of abraham or something, where this orthodox jew brags how he used his Uzi to kill palestinian kids, and how he destroyed a house with palestinians in it.

[ariel]

Because ashkenazis (including orthodox ashkenazis) can do whatever they want, as they created Israel, right?

these orthodox jews are very hated in israel.nobody like them here lol

[RandoBloom]

these orthodox jews are very hated in israel.nobody like them here lol

And that is why no other jews go and slap them for spiting at priests and other non-jews... ;)

[ariel]

I remember watching a documentary, children of abraham or something, where this orthodox jew brags how he used his Uzi to kill palestinian kids, and how he destroyed a house with palestinians in it.

like this one?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OefgMtXOc1M

[ariel]

And that is why no other jews go and slap them for spiting at priests and other non-jews... ;)

nobody like them here, but many muslims protecting the terorists

[daedal1]

nobody like them here, but many muslims protecting the terorists

How are they so powerful in the government, etc.?

[RandoBloom]

like this one?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OefgMtXOc1M

LOL, you can see him pulling the kid in order to not get shot

While this is human shield

http://www.countercurrents.org/humanshield.jpg

I think you will recognise the soldiers, and what country they belong to :)

And lets see what other things jews do to palestinians :)


http://youtu.be/LDfhNaqNDRg?t=12m12s

Jump to 12:15

[ariel]

So, christians should have to choose between one form of humiliation and subordination and another? [There is a difference with ethnic cleansing, but either case is not an ideal situation to strive for, why should they have to sacrifice anything?]

generaly the christians have a good life in israel, the avarege israeli treate hem in good way, these orthodox are only 10 % of the israeli population.

[ariel]

How are they so powerful in the government, etc.?

they not part of the new government, time change

[RandoBloom]

nobody like them here, but many muslims protecting the terorists

Many :D
How many :D?
Or is it because they didnt vote the way you wanted them to vote?

[ariel]

LOL, you can see him pulling the kid in order to not get shot

While this is human shield

http://www.countercurrents.org/humanshield.jpg

I think you will recognise the soldiers, and what country they belong to :)

And lets see what other things jews do to palestinians :)


http://youtu.be/LDfhNaqNDRg?t=12m12s

Jump to 12:15

pure propaganda,the palestinians are of the rebels in syria kind, scums.

[RandoBloom]

they not part of the new government, time change

Hahah, so you admit that they are ocupied, opressed, not represented in government and are also abused and spat at by jews on daily basis?

[daedal1]

they not part of the new government, time change

They aren't conscripted and still have a lot of privileges, etc.

[ariel]

Many :D
How many :D?
Or is it because they didnt vote the way you wanted them to vote?

you good example you protecting islamic terorism.

[RandoBloom]

pure propaganda,the palestinians are of the rebels in syria kind, scums.


Yes, you can see their guns and them attacking the jews, not seeing Jews attacking muslims and beating them senseless for no reason, right?

[ariel]

They aren't conscripted and still have a lot of privileges, etc.

actually very soon many of them will serve in the israeli army.

[RandoBloom]

you good example you protecting islamic terorism.

How?
In what way?

[ariel]

Yes, you can see their guns and them attacking the jews, not seeing Jews attacking muslims and beating them senseless for no reason, right?

these poor palestinians


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owMoT1MKXDQ

[RandoBloom]

these poor palestinians


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owMoT1MKXDQ

I dont see you beating those guys up, do I now.
All I see is you beating up civilians for no reason, and even when they are on the ground. Watch the video

[ariel]

I dont see you beating those guys up, do I now.
All I see is you beating up civilians for no reason, and even when they are on the ground. Watch the video

beating poor civilians like these



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlHFpdRuJbU

[RandoBloom]

beating poor civilians like these



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlHFpdRuJbU

Who are throwing stones at settlers who came there to force them out of their lands :D
Its easy to find translations on youtube :D

[ariel]

Who are throwing stones at settlers who came there to force them out of their lands :D
Its easy to find translations on youtube :D

they throwing stones also in jerusalem :rolleyes:

btw nobody forces them out of 'their' land, but they forces the christians out of their land

Op-Ed: Muslims Drive out Christians from PA Territories


Interview Series: International human rights lawyerJustus Reid Weiner: "They flee to almost any country that will issue them a visa."



"The disputed territories of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip have been administered by the Palestinian Authority (PA) and in more recent years, in part, by Hamas. Under these regimes, the resident Christian Arabs have been victims of frequent human rights abuses including intimidation, beatings, land theft, firebombing of churches and other Christian institutions, denial of employment, economic boycott, torture, kidnapping, forced marriage, sexual harassment, and extortion.

"Muslims who have converted to Christianity are the ones in the greatest in danger. They are often left defenseless against cruelty by Muslim fundamentalists. PA and Hamas officials are directly responsible for many of the human rights violations. Christian Arabs also fall victim to the semi-anarchy that typifies PA rule."

Justus Reid Weiner is an international human rights lawyer and a member of the Israel and New York Bar Associations. His professional publications have appeared in leading law journals and intellectual magazines. Weiner lectures widely abroad and in Israel and teaches international law and business courses at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem.

In Weiner's view, the crimes committed against Christian Arabs result from a way of thinking that dates back to the earliest days of Islam. "Traditionally, Christians and Jews were given an inferior social status known as dhimmitude in Islam. To this day, Muslim attitudes toward Christians and Jews are influenced by the concepts and prejudices that dhimmitude has spawned in Islamic society. The widespread persecution of Christians in various Muslim dominated lands brings many proofs of this.[1]

"Israel is the only exception in the Middle East where the Christian population since 1948 has increased. It has risen by more than 400 percent. This also includes non-Arab Christians, such as Russian Christians who have moved to Israel as spouses of Jews.

"As dhimmis, Christians living in Palestinian-controlled territories are subjected to debilitating legal, political, cultural, and religious restrictions. Muslim groups like Hamas and Islamic Jihad have built a culture of hatred upon the age-old foundations of Islamic society. Moreover, the PA has adopted Islamic law into its draft constitution.

"In such an environment, Christian Arabs have found themselves victims of prejudice and hate crimes. Tens of thousands of Palestinian Christians have left their ancestral homes and emigrated. They flee to almost any country that will issue them a visa.

"The demographics in the Palestinian areas have changed drastically. In Bethlehem, the Christian population was an 80 percent majority in 1950. Today the population of Christian Arabs in Bethlehem is hovering at about 15 percent of the city's total population. Neither the Palestinian Christian leaders nor the PA want to reveal accurate statistics. That would mean the extent of the emigration would become publicly known. They would then have to face questions about the reasons for this decline."


Weiner points out that Yasser Arafat determined the policy that led to this demographic shift. "After the PA gained control of Bethlehem, it redistricted the municipal boundaries of the city. Arafat also defied tradition by appointing a Muslim governor of the city. The Bethlehem City Council, which by Palestinian law must have a Christian majority, has been taken over by Muslims. Eight of the fifteen seats on the Council are still reserved for Christians, but Hamas controls the City Council with some Christian allies. Arafat crowned his efforts when he converted the Greek Orthodox monastery next to the Church of Nativity into his official Bethlehem residence.[2]

"The problems for Christians in Bethlehem are typical throughout the Middle East. As in Palestinian society, Christian Arabs have no voice and no protection. It is no wonder they have been leaving. Because of emigration – some of it dating back two or three generations – seventy percent of Christian Arabs who originally resided in the West Bank and Gaza now live abroad. Tens of thousands live in Sydney, Berlin, Santiago, Detroit, and Toronto. The emigration of Christian Arabs has multiplied over the last decade, with no end in sight.

"It is currently estimated that the number of Christians living in Gaza totals only 1,500-3,000 amid 1.2 million Muslims.[3] Probably less than fifty thousand Christians remain in all of East Jerusalem, the West Bank, and Gaza together.”

Weiner concludes: "The human rights crimes against the Christian Arabs in the disputed territories are committed by Muslims. Yet many Palestinian Christian leaders accuse Israel of these crimes rather than the actual perpetrators. These patriarchs and archbishops of Christian Arab denominations obfuscate the truth and put their own people in danger. This is often for personal benefit or due to intimidation. This motif has been adopted by a variety of Christian leaders in the Western world. Others who are aware of the human rights crimes choose to remain silent about them."


http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/11000#.Uj3yDCNBSUk

[Yaakov Elbaz]

Who are throwing stones at settlers who came there to force them out of their lands :D
Its easy to find translations on youtube :D
Settlers? What about Arab settlers in Berber land? Assyrian land? Kurdish land? Why Arabs can colonize another people? And Jews can't go back to Israel to retake land stolen by Arabs?

[Baluarte]

Good

[daedal1]

actually very soon many of them will serve in the israeli army.

Since when?

[daedal1]

Settlers? What about Arab settlers in Berber land? Assyrian land? Kurdish land? Why Arabs can colonize another people? And Jews can't go back to Israel to retake land stolen by Arabs?

The berbers no longer exist, they're all mixed up at this point. The original north africans were probably similar to sardinians. Kurds are from Iran. As for Assyrians, o.k., they have actual claims, but, ironically, people are concerned with their plight the least.

[ariel]

Since when?

since now up to 5 years .

[daedal1]

since now up to 5 years .

But they ignored it anyway and got away with it, no?

[ariel]

But they ignored it anyway and got away with it, no?

no, this time this serious otherwise they wil be punishe by sactions.

[ariel]

no, this time this serious otherwise they wil be punishe by sanctions.

[Yaakov Elbaz]

The berbers no longer exist, they're all mixed up at this point. The original north africans were probably similar to sardinians. Kurds are from Iran. As for Assyrians, o.k., they have actual claims, but, ironically, people are concerned with their plight the least.
I have been in Morrocco a lot of times, it is easy to notice the cultural and racial differences between west coast Arabs and mountain, mainly inhabited by Berbers, except the big cities, all towns are inhabited by native Berbers.

[Shah-Jehan]

The IDF soldier should be buried near a Gharqad tree, so that his corpse decomposes properly

[daedal1]

no, this time this serious otherwise they wil be punishe by sactions.

That's what they always say. :)

[daedal1]

I have been in Morrocco a lot of times, it is easy to notice the cultural and racial differences between west coast Arabs and mountain, mainly inhabited by Berbers, except the big cities, all towns are inhabited by native Berbers.

Maybe the Arabs have additional semitic/arabid inputs, still doesn't change the basic situation of the modern mixed berbers.

[YeshAtid]

The IDF soldier should be buried near a Gharqad tree, so that his corpse decomposes properly

No one gives shit about starving bengalistanis

[Shah-Jehan]

No one gives shit about starving bengalistanis

What fuck are you doing here? Why do you always use the suffix "stan" with anyone being Muslim, Yehood, we use desh for nation, now go learn Yeshiva culture, Jew imposter...

[YeshAtid]

What fuck are you doing here? Why do you always use the suffix "stan" with anyone being Muslim, Yehood, we use desh for nation, now go learn Yeshiva culture, Jew imposter...

Isn't Haram to wish ill of the dead?:rolleyes:

[ariel]

That's what they always say. :)

now they lost their political power. ;)

[daedal1]

now they lost their political power. ;)

as has been said, doesn't mean they will comply. :D

[RandoBloom]

Settlers? What about Arab settlers in Berber land? Assyrian land? Kurdish land? Why Arabs can colonize another people? And Jews can't go back to Israel to retake land stolen by Arabs?
What arab settlers in Berber and Kurdish lands?
Land stolen by Arabs? Last I checked they didnt live there for 2000 years and were forced out by Romans, not Arabs.

Why dont you leave Spain and go to Romania and let Celtic people settle where they lived?

[StonyArabia]

^ North African Arabs are just Arab speaking Berbers. They don't genetically cluster with Arabian population, and there culture is very alien to Arabians. Also their dialect is only Arabic in name. Actually Arabians don't occupy any Kurdish lands, and it's Kurds who occupy Assyrian lands.

[Philo]

This is one of many reasons why death penalty should be constituted in Israel; the only person ever to be executed in Israel was Adolf Eichmann.
QFT.

[RussiaPrussia]

it's called resistance when you kill someone who occupies you, israhelli army is like waffel ss

:lol:

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1226/3593/320/grass.png

[YeshAtid]

Hope he gets life in prison

[daedal1]

^ North African Arabs are just Arab speaking Berbers. They don't genetically cluster with Arabian population, and there culture is very alien to Arabians. Also their dialect is only Arabic in name. Actually Arabians don't occupy any Kurdish lands, and it's Kurds who occupy Assyrian lands.

There is no proof that Berbers still exist, not anymore than there is proof of the modern existence of Tainos.

[Yaakov Elbaz]

What arab settlers in Berber and Kurdish lands?
Land stolen by Arabs? Last I checked they didnt live there for 2000 years and were forced out by Romans, not Arabs.

Why dont you leave Spain and go to Romania and let Celtic people settle where they lived?
Unlike you I know North Africans, in the North Africa Berber have a culture of its history much more admirable than Arabs, Arabs only know Islamic religious things. The Berbers all know what happened when arabs arrived, the Banu Hilal and Banu Sulaym, who destroyed the economy and society and returned to the Berber to prehistory.

Your arab islamic propaganda has the same value as Slobodan Miloševic trial.

[daedal1]

Unlike you I know North Africans, in the North Africa Berber have a culture of its history much more admirable than Arabs, Arabs only know Islamic religious things. The Berbers all know what happened when arabs arrived, the Banu Hilal and Banu Sulaym, who destroyed the economy and society and returned to the Berber to prehistory.

Your arab islamic propaganda has the same value as Slobodan Miloševic trial.

Weren't berbers still living in prehistory until the arabs arrived? :P

Do berbers even have a culture?

[Mason8]

Muslims do not like friendship . They throw it back in your face