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Lady L
10-14-2009, 11:13 PM
Last week Ralph Lauren came under fire for (what looked to be) an extremely altered photo of a model in one of its ads. Bloggers at the website BoingBoing.net posted the image online, and lawyers for Ralph Lauren attempted to sue them for copyright infringement. Unfortunately for Ralph Lauren, this only furthered public interest and outrage over the dangerously thin looking model and, eventually, the clothing company released this apology:

"For over 42 years we have built a brand based on quality and integrity. After further investigation, we have learned that we are responsible for the poor imaging and retouching that resulted in a very distorted image of a woman's body. We have addressed the problem and going forward will take every precaution to ensure that the caliber of our artwork represents our brand appropriately."

Unfortunately,"addressing the problem" may have included firing the model, 23-year-old Filippa Hamilton. She is 5'10" and weighs 120 pounds--clearly more full-bodied than the photoshopped girl we see in the advertisement. Though Hamilton has modeled for Ralph Lauren since she was 15, the company let her go "as a result of her inability to meet the obligations under her contract with us." But the story gets worse: Hamilton says she was let go because she'd become too fat to model for them. "They fired me because they said I was overweight and I couldn't fit in their clothes anymore," she explained. "I was shocked to see that super skinny girl with my face...It's very sad, I think, that Ralph Lauren could do something like that."

Most of us know that a tall, young woman who weighs 120 pounds is not overweight. But Hamilton claims Ralph Lauren was dissatisfied with her body, and therefore fired her six months ago. However, the company continued to use her image, whittling down her arms, waist, thighs, and possibly several other body parts in the above ad. If they were so unhappy with how she looked, why not get another model for the campaign? Why use the photos and alter and distort them?

Today, Ralph Lauren himself is distancing himself from the ad, claiming, "The image in question was mistakenly released and used in a department store in Japan and was not the approved image which ran in the U.S." So we're confused. They say the photoshopping was an error, that Hamilton is "beautiful and healthy," yet they allegedly fired her for her size? With all these apologies and statements it sounds like the brand still has yet to accept responsibility for their actions.

When I searched for more images of Filippa Hamilton, I instantly remembered her—she was the face of Ralph Lauren's fragrance, Romance, has been featured on the cover of international editions of Vogue and Elle, and has appeared in many ads. She's a gorgeous woman. "I think they [Ralph Lauren] owe American women an apology, a big apology," says Hamilton. "I'm very proud of what I look like, and I think a role model should look healthy."

The truth is, models get fired or overlooked all the time for being what the industry considers overweight, we just rarely see or hear about it. Eating disorders are not only common among models, but they're also common among the women and young girls who emulate them. We're happy to see that Hamilton has come forward, and wish more models and celebrities would do the same. It's awesome and empowering when stars admit they've been photoshopped for an ad or movie poster and say how dissatisfied they are about it. With foreign countries banning underweight models from their fashion weeks, and the increasing presence of "plus size" models in women's magazines, we wish the unhealthy representation and falsified depiction of models—and women—would come to an end entirely. Do you think the day will ever come?

http://shine.yahoo.com/channel/beauty/was-the-photoshopped-ralph-lauren-model-fired-for-being-overweight-525248/

http://i34.tinypic.com/oqx8hz.jpg

I hope for the day to come. It is such pressure on young girls. :( I think us older ladies understand it all better and many of us are comfortable with ourselves for the most part. But, the girl children don't know what we know. It is so harmful for them in my opinion. You would think these companies would want to do the right thing. The normal thing. Different shapes and sizes is what's normal. Everyone walking around like bean poles is not. Skinny also doesn't equal healthy.

Can you believe this photo shopped picture? :eek: I'd rather see a more chubby curvy lady before I would ever wanna see that! :cool: Awful! Unrealistic! and Plastic! :rolleyes:

Lysander
10-14-2009, 11:17 PM
That's just disgusting. What I fail to understand is why girls think we like them this way? She looks like a skeleton and unless you're suffering from necrophilia you can't find that attractive.

ikki
10-14-2009, 11:45 PM
That's just disgusting. What I fail to understand is why girls think we like them this way? She looks like a skeleton and unless you're suffering from necrophilia you can't find that attractive.

the fashionpeople are homosexuals and are fond of the hipless, breastless androgyne...

Puddle of Mudd
10-15-2009, 12:11 AM
http://www.funnytimes.com/playground/img/118814434011401.png

Cartoon speaks the truth...

Black Turlogh
10-15-2009, 12:35 AM
It's much the same for men. Whoever says young men don't have feelings of inadequacy about their image is off their nut. But that's life for you. It's like you said: we can hope that eventually most will wise up and realise the measure of a person's worth isn't how they look.

Fortis in Arduis
10-15-2009, 04:08 AM
Ralph Lauren is a Jew selling white to desperately aspirational white people. Next.

Bridie
10-15-2009, 04:12 AM
we wish the unhealthy representation and falsified depiction of models—and women—would come to an end entirely. Do you think the day will ever come?No. People are inspired by fantasy... even if it's ugly.

SwordoftheVistula
10-15-2009, 10:48 AM
Unconfirmed rumors report that Ralph Lauren has bowed to pressure and hired this woman as it's next model:

http://carmencorina.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/000946-fat-overweight-black-woman-with-huge-red-hair-eating-kfc-chicken2.jpg

Matritensis
10-15-2009, 11:02 AM
I personally find models completely uninteresting looking and very unsexy.

raZvan
10-15-2009, 11:09 AM
I don't see anything erotic about a twig.

Svarog
10-15-2009, 11:27 AM
Some are okay, some are not, the point is, they do want anorexic stick looking girl so the clothes would be in the first plan, most of those designers don't even look at girls looking for beauty in her or her body, just the way to show off their 'work'; ad beside, most of those girls are morons anyway, the real shame is for the young girls looking at them, being bombed by the 'be thin' propaganda in magazines, tv etc and it is leading to some serious problems, not only physical look but fucks them up really nice inside their heads

'you're just another faceless mannequin, you're just another fallen star, you're just to blind to see, you hate what you could never be - and now you're hollow'

I'd put them all in front of the firing squad.

Inese
10-15-2009, 01:04 PM
Ok i have normal weight (BMI says very little under weight) and i am far away of anorexia but there is pressure when you want to have success, it is true:rolleyes2: It is too much and makes many girls ill. I was in some castings and some of my rivals were very skinny ---- when you watch them and watch me you would think i am fat lool!! :wink But not every agency makes pressure and they search normal looking girls for catalogues of supermarkets or factory outlet catalogues!! I think professional models have very much more pressure.
You know, i lost the most weight in the clinic but i have gained 4 kilos in the last three weeks!! :pizza::burger00:

Tabiti
10-15-2009, 03:44 PM
Our society has unhealthy taste toward beauty. Our genes say we must like people that look fertile - curved forms for females. In fact, that was the ideal until 60's.
I consider myself skinny, but find slightly overweight women to be more pleasant for the eye from anorexic types.

Bridie
10-15-2009, 03:51 PM
High fashion really isn't about beauty nor sexiness. It's an art form that is representative of social trends.

Sabinae
10-17-2009, 09:31 AM
High fashion really isn't about beauty nor sexiness. It's an art form that is representative of social trends.

I'll second Bridie on this. She speaks much truth. High fashion is an art form, leading to an absolute, fantastic image of "the woman today". Normal women are seldom like so. And even though fashion is an important part in the life of many women, there is really no point in stressing one self to look like she was a cover girl for some high brow magazine. Health is more important, and it is the "engine" that keeps us going through all walks of life: education, work, family,so many other responsibilities... We just need to find our balance in everything we do. That is the best path. We need to learn to be happy with what we have, learn to strengthen our qualities, smile more often, and understand that "being beautiful" is not equal in meaning with "being a model"...

SwordoftheVistula
10-17-2009, 10:18 AM
I'd chalk it up to the obesity epidemic which has been an ever increasing problem in the US for decades and is now spreading to other countries. The most common severely unattractive female trait is overweight/obesity, thus the 'most desirable' fashion models are those which are as far removed from obesity as possible.

Bridie
10-17-2009, 02:42 PM
I'll second Bridie on this. She speaks much truth. High fashion is an art form, leading to an absolute, fantastic image of "the woman today". Normal women are seldom like so. And even though fashion is an important part in the life of many women, there is really no point in stressing one self to look like she was a cover girl for some high brow magazine. Health is more important, and it is the "engine" that keeps us going through all walks of life: education, work, family,so many other responsibilities... We just need to find our balance in everything we do. That is the best path. We need to learn to be happy with what we have, learn to strengthen our qualities, smile more often, and understand that "being beautiful" is not equal in meaning with "being a model"...
I agree with you Sabinae :), but what I was really talking about with my post was that high fashion models (and the way they are presented) are often not aesthetically pleasing, nor sexually attractive to (heterosexual) men. You'll notice that fashion models most often (if not always) don't look a thing like the women that are used in "men's magazines". ;)


Common looks for fashion models....

http://www.myfashionlife.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/horace2-240209.jpg

http://media.onsugar.com/files/ons1/192/1922564/27_2009/8825e3481e9158b2_-2.jpg



Common look for women featuring in "men's magazines"...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_xR0ENvX_wMU/SFdNV3rhcgI/AAAAAAAAASY/mnGxRtCoGhw/s400/gallery_main-DSCN0097.jpg

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/PYREU/PP31044~Kelly-Brook-Posters.jpg



The "look" for modern fashion models tends to directly correlate with the social fashion for androgyny.

Absinthe
10-17-2009, 03:01 PM
Interestingly enough I heard a gay VIP hair stylist yesterday, saying on TV that there is a huge difference between beautiful women and top models:

"Top models are clothes hangers"

and he elaborated by saying they're supposed to be as genderless and neutral - looking as possible, because they need to be able to transform into whatever form and shape the designer wishes to convey.

I never thought of it this way - models as human plaster to be molded into different shapes and forms, makes sense why a lot of beautiful women do not qualify as "top models" not only due to their figure, but also because they might be difficult to transform. :wink