Where would these Swedish youths pass the best? Scotland or Latvia?

[WOOHP]

Where would they fit better?

From one region

http://pics.nattstad.se/4/900000/810000/807539/pics/201210412454859807539_sbig.jpg

http://cdn1.cdnme.se/cdn/7-2/1676146/images/2010/skolfoto-klass_113259749.jpg

[WOOHP]

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[Sikeliot]

Latvia. Some of them are somewhat Borealized in a way that makes them look a bit more like Finns, which in turn puts them more near Baltic looks than to British.

Norwegians, who have less of that look, tend to look more like Scots.

[Peyrol]

Latvia obviously.

[WOOHP]

Latvia. Some of them are somewhat Borealized in a way that makes them look a bit more like Finns, which in turn puts them more near Baltic looks than to British.

Norwegians, who have less of that look, tend to look more like Scots.

Arn't Norwegians considered to be one of the most CM/Borealized people in Europe?

[Sikeliot]

Arn't Norwegians considered to be one of the most CM/Borealized people in Europe?

They also have more Atlantids and people approaching Keltic-Nordid. Swedes look, sometimes, closer to Finns and Baltics.

[Rouxinol]

These ones look more like Latvians than Scots. And Norwegians are more borealized than Swedes out of my observations.

[WOOHP]

They also have more Atlantids and people approaching Keltic-Nordid. Swedes look, sometimes, closer to Finns and Baltics.

You mean Paleo-Atlantid? They are represented all over Scandinavia. Norwegians, on the contrary to your belief are more CM than Swedes, but only by a bit.

Other than that, it's very very hard to tell apart Swedes and Norwegians. With that in mind they should be overlapping equally with other Europeans.

[Graham]

Would say Lativia, if compared to the average Scot, but many could still pass. Scots had more Norse than England, Ireland & Wales. Whereas England got the more Southern Germanics.

[WOOHP]

Would say Lativia, if compared to the average Scot, but many could still pass. Scots had more Norse than England, Ireland & Wales. Whereas England got the more Southern Germanics.

I don't actually know what Latvians look like. Are there any Latvians here?

[Hevo]

I don't actually know what Latvians look like. Are there any Latvians here?

We have an active Latvian user Didriksson, she can help you.

[WOOHP]

They are from Southeastern Sweden btw

From the region Östergötland(En. "Eastern Gothland")

http://www.ne.se/neimage/2309335.gif

[WOOHP]

We have an active Latvian user Didriksson, she can help you.
Thanks.

What about if we compare them with the Dutch? Where would they fit better?

[Hevo]

Thanks.

What about if we compare them with the Dutch? Where would they fit better?

Do you mean between Latvian and Dutch people? I think more in Latvia, but alot of them could pass in The Netherlands no doubt.

[Graham]

Always imagined Latvians as kind of round faced, with light hair. A little Borealized & northern, rounded nose tip. That is my stereotypical view.

[Talvi]

Theyd fit in here perfectly. So Im choosing Latvia.

[Not a Cop]

Always imagined Latvians as kind of round faced, with light hair. A little Borealized & northern, rounded nose tip. That is my stereotypical view.

Latvians from NW part are the most Nordoid population of Eastern Europe according to some research i read and only 1/4 less nordoid then most nordoid part of Sweden and Western coast of Finland

[WOOHP]

Theyd fit in here perfectly. So Im choosing Latvia.

So as a group they strike you as Estonian looking?

Karl will be pleased ;)

[American_Hispanist]

those ppl look like latvians, no way they look like socts. scots look more celtic while those look very baltic.

[Not a Cop]

those ppl look like latvians, no way they look like socts. scots look more celtic while those look very baltic.

Baltic fascade stong, man

[WOOHP]

Baltic fascade stong, man

;)

Karl approves.

[American_Hispanist]

Baltic fascade stong, man

Karl happy with that. :lol:

Swedes not happy with that. :laugh:

Me likes this:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/db/Flag_map_of_Estonia_SSR_%281953-1990%29.svg

Karl not happy with that. Russians happy with that. :laugh:

[WOOHP]

Karl happy with that. :lol:

Swedes not happy with that. :laugh:
Karl is only happy with Estonia - Scandinavia facade, Latvia wouldn't be inlcuded :(

[American_Hispanist]

Karl is only happy with Estonia - Scandinavia facade, Latvia wouldn't be inlcuded :(

of course. according to him, Estonia is nordic and the other Baltic states aren't and are Baltic. :lol:

Personally, I think Estonia is slav with some Finnic in them. :laugh:

[Talvi]

So as a group they strike you as Estonian looking?

Karl will be pleased ;)

Swedes almost always strike me as Estonian looking :P its not a surprise to me. Not that all Estonians can pass as Swedes, no, its not what I mean. But on average you cant tell them apart in a crowd.

The only one who would look clearly foreign is that fat guy with glasses and dark hair on the first photo.

http://www.ng.edu.ee/userfiles/file/11i-11.JPG

[WOOHP]

In your pic there are some who would be atypical. I don't agree with Karl that Estonians are closer to Swedes than Finns :rolleyes:

[Talvi]

In your pic there are some who would be atypical. I don't agree with Karl that Estonians are closer to Swedes than Finns :rolleyes:

Its easier to spot a finn because a lot of them are overweight and they have very very snubby noses. Way snubbier than Estonians. And they have crazy hair. Its a lot easier to spot a Finn in the crowd than a swede.


Personally I think people should get over Karl and equating everything about Estonia to Karl. Karl may be more right about things than people want to admit, but he is also a little idiot, and Ive met him irl. But its completely tireing how some peoples TA life is all about Karl.

[WOOHP]

Its easier to spot a finn because a lot of them are overweight and they have very very snubby noses. Way snubbier than Estonians. And they have crazy hair. Its a lot easier to spot a Finn in the crowd than a swede.


Personally I think people should get over Karl and equating everything about Estonia to Karl. Karl may be more right about things than people want to admit, but he is also a little idiot, and Ive met him irl. But its completely tireing how some peoples TA life is all about Karl.
I don't know about that. The Estonian pic doesn't strike me as being Finnish, nor Latvian/Lithuanian(not that I know that well what they look like). Most would fit here, some would be atypical and easily spotted.
I just know that Finns look more like Swedes than Estonians, ofc Norwegians/Danes/Icelandics being the closest.

Karl is hilarious though.

[Not a Cop]

Its easier to spot a finn because a lot of them are overweight and they have very very snubby noses. Way snubbier than Estonians. And they have crazy hair. Its a lot easier to spot a Finn in the crowd than a swede.


Personally I think people should get over Karl and equating everything about Estonia to Karl. Karl may be more right about things than people want to admit, but he is also a little idiot, and Ive met him irl. But its completely tireing how some peoples TA life is all about Karl.

lol, is he a Saarema Viking?

[American_Hispanist]

Personally I think people should get over Karl and equating everything about Estonia to Karl. Karl may be more right about things than people want to admit, but he is also a little idiot, and Ive met him irl. But its completely tireing how some peoples TA life is all about Karl.

In reality, most ppl here don't care about estonia. the problem is, karl has rattled a lot of people on this forum and it's at the point of no return because they are really annoyed of him and want nothing but retribution. Karl does have good points at times, but most of the time, he's on an agenda driven mad dash that is really irritating and all but wipes out the good things he post.

[Talvi]

I don't know about that. The Estonian pic doesn't strike me as being Finnish, nor Latvian/Lithuanian(not that I know that well what they look like). Most would fit here, some would be atypical and easily spotted.
I just know that Finns look more like Swedes than Estonians, ofc Norwegians/Danes/Icelandics being the closest.

Karl is hilarious though.

Like I said, on average Swedes and Estonians can be exchanged in a crowd. I also said that i dont mean all Estonians can pass.

But it all depends on cultural exposure. I see you are American and most likely have not relied on personal experience on your observations, so Im not sure where your knowledge comes from. Im more lucky with that having been to Sweden and Finland, and seeing both groups on an almost daily basis. Also been to Latvia but I have a lot less exposure to them. Most people having opinions on TA lack any personal experience.



Well Karl has a right to be hilarious.

[Trun]

The only one who would look clearly foreign is that fat guy with glasses and dark hair on the first photo.

http://www.ng.edu.ee/userfiles/file/11i-11.JPG

http://static4.fjcdn.com/comments/Somebody+call+the+sWAT+team+someone+just+broke+the +law+_ee96a5b72089d1478b85c02ec7d1451b.jpg

[Talvi]

lol, is he a Saarema Viking?

What do you want to hear? He is very blonde and has light greyish greenish eyes. A bit short for a Viking though :P

[Talvi]

http://static4.fjcdn.com/comments/Somebody+call+the+sWAT+team+someone+just+broke+the +law+_ee96a5b72089d1478b85c02ec7d1451b.jpg

The guy has black hair naturally. These girls have dyed their hair black. Big difference, unless that fat guy also dyes his hair.

[Styggnacke]

There are quite many in Talvi's photo, which look foreign to me.

[Trun]

The guy has black hair naturally. These girls have dyed their hair black. Big difference, unless that fat guy also dyes his hair.

Oh, I see. I thought you speak about the guy with the glasses on the photo I quoted (who has dark blond/light brown hair).

Even the guy you speak about hair isn't dark...more like medium brown.

[Archduke]

Sorabia :laugh:

[Talvi]

Oh, I see. I thought you speak about the guy with the glasses on the photo I quoted (who has dark blond/light brown hair).

Even the guy you speak about hair isn't dark...more like medium brown.

Not according to the standards here. His hair is dark brown, almost black.
But Ive been to Bulgaria and seen your lack of light hair :P

[Trun]

Not according to the standards here. His hair is dark brown, almost black.
But Ive been to Bulgaria and seen your lack of light hair :P

Not light by Estonian standards, but there is plenty of officially light brown hair (which is probably medium brown in Estonia).


Sorabia :laugh:

Some of them are too dark for there :laugh:

[Styggnacke]

These are the foreign looking:
http://i.imgur.com/X48OPku.jpg

[Graham]

Whoop what age are those people? Let me find something similar for Scots.

[Smaug]

I guess some of them could, but most look NE/Borealized and would pass better in Latvia.

[Talvi]

These are the foreign looking:
http://i.imgur.com/X48OPku.jpg

I have no confirmation if any of the people on the photo are Russian or not, however I think the school is predominantly Estonian.
The girl with brown shoulder-lenght hair that you also pointed out looks slightly foreign to me, too. The rest are fine.

[Graham]

OK then here are Young Shetlanders. Most Scandinavian influenced part of Scotland...Mainly lassies.

http://tavishscott.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/MV-Awards-2012.jpg

[American_Hispanist]

they still look very celtic lad.

[Styggnacke]

The rest are fine.
They might look fine, but I hardly think of them as Swedish-looking.

[Agron]

Where would they fit better?

From one region

http://pics.nattstad.se/4/900000/810000/807539/pics/201210412454859807539_sbig.jpg



Does the guy on the left really have a Hitler moustache, or am I hallucinating?

[Sharkeatpeople]

Latvia for me(but in general, they look like the Western Europeans,than Latvians),Scots more kelticized

[Talvi]

They might look fine, but I hardly think of them as Swedish-looking.

As you can see they dont look exactly like the others either, so you can make a logical assumption that they arent super average.

[WOOHP]

Whoop what age are those people? Let me find something similar for Scots.

16-18

[WOOHP]

OK then here are Young Shetlanders. Most Scandinavian influenced part of Scotland...Mainly lassies.

http://tavishscott.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/MV-Awards-2012.jpg

Hmm I thought it was Orkney.

[WOOHP]

Latvia for me(but in general, they look like the Western Europeans,than Latvians),Scots more kelticized

I'm thinking all would be able to fit in Norway? Maybe with the exception of few.

[Graham]

Hmm I thought it was Orkney.

Shetland was still a part of Norway until 1468. Longer than any other area.

[WOOHP]

Shetland was still a part of Norway until 1468. Longer than any other area.

Wow. Cool. Or? ;)

I think a mentionable number of those girls would be able to fit, even some of the really dark haired ones.

[Graham]

Wow. Cool. Or? ;)

I think a mentionable number of those girls would be able to fit, even some of the really dark haired ones.
My Great Gran was dark haired also(middle left).. Since 1468, many Scots have moved back in.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/44832_466229925420_123061_n.jpg

[Sharkeatpeople]

I'm thinking all would be able to fit in Norway? Maybe with the exception of few.

yes, you are right

[Smeagol]

Latvia.

[Roy]

Latvia.

[WOOHP]

Lol. I thought people perceived Scots to be more Germanic or Northern than "Celtic" looking. I was wrong.

[Didriksson]

Are they really Latvian?

Oh, I just read the title which says that they're Swedish. ;D I actually thought that they're Swedish so I didn't get why people say that they look Latvian. Hehe

[Roy]

Are they really Latvian?

They're from Sweden. The question was whether they lean in looks more into Latvia or more into Scotland.

[Didriksson]

Just edited my post...
Some of them look really Latvian though... but that's like common for Swedes.