Classify Italian Football player

[Beorn]

Gennaro Gattuso

http://i.imgur.com/PUx9h6D.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/W60J7uw.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/t8JVWac.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/nRMTy5c.jpg

[Mesrine]

The archetype of Calabrian.

[Poltergeist]

He reminds me of Tuco: wherever there is trouble, there he is.

[Loyalist]

The archetype of Calabrian.

Congoid?

[Hweinlant]

Very interesting look. Cromagnoid-like, with allmost South Asian (or Aboriginal) features. Mainly Cromagnoid tho'.

In This pic he could pass as Maori:

http://www.torcidagranata.it/photogallery/stagione%202002-2003/toro_milan/tn_25%20Gattuso.jpg

What is his racial background ? Purely Italian sounds far fetched.

[Goidelic]

Asian Alpinid & Armenid sounds right.

[Mesrine]

What is his racial background ? Purely Italian sounds far fetched.

He is. 100% Calabrian stock, from Corigliano Calabro (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corigliano_Calabro) (see pic below). Many Calabrians have these stocky rugged features.

http://i35.tinypic.com/t0rod5.jpg

[Tony]

Congoid?
He's just ugly , his hairtexture , jaw , skintone , nasal shape and lips have nothing Congoid.
Taxonomically speaking I'd classify him as darkened dinaricized Southern Phalian , he looks like the gracilized Calabrian version of Oliver Kahn.

[Hweinlant]

He's just ugly , his hairtexture , jaw , skintone , nasal shape and lips have nothing Congoid.
Taxonomically speaking I'd classify him as darkened dinaricized Southern Phalian , he looks like the gracilized Calabrian version of Oliver Kahn.

He is not just "dark CM".

http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/9020/gat162lp.jpg

Tamil Tiger rebel leader (excuse the fat):

http://i.thisislondon.co.uk/i/pix/2008/04/tamilsES2204_415x275.jpg

There must be some really old genetic connection or some strange atavistic genetic recombination going on in Calabria.

[Beorn]

WTF!!! He looks nothing like him. :D

Judging from most replies so far, I feel sorry for some when they finally holiday in Europe.

[Tabiti]

Just a darker and uglier Italian. Nothing so weird, imo.

[Hweinlant]

WTF!!! He looks nothing like him. :D


Except they could be father&son



Judging from most replies so far, I feel sorry for some when they finally holiday in Europe.

I havent seen any people like that here at the north. We have our own kind of "strange looks" but nothing like that Calabrian football supertsar.

[Beorn]

Except they could be father&son

You need to go to Specsavers, mate.


I havent seen any people like that here at the north. We have our own kind of "strange looks" but nothing like that Calabrian football supertsar.

'North' as in the location of Finland, or...?

[Tony]

First a Maori , then a Sri-Lankan, what's next , a Jap?
be serious and grow up Hweinlant or confess you just don't know too much about classification.;)

[Tony]

http://static.sky.it/static/images/sezioni/sport/calcio_italiano/10a_giornata_serie_a/gattuso_nuova_aglia_italia_confederations_cup.jpg

http://www.gazzetta.it/Fotogallery/Tagliate/2006/07_Luglio/09/ES/12.JPG

http://fangoogle.altervista.org/img/sosia/daniele_gattuso.jpg

http://www.tonyassante.com/baglioni/2004/fausta2/ilfaustino/fa/gattuso/GATTUSO.jpg

http://www.transfermarketweb.com/storage/img_art/thumb/12493023261244197687gattuso5.jpg

with his daughter
http://www.sportlive.it/gallery/foto/calcio/foto-gennaro-gattuso/gennaro_gattuso13.jpeg

[Hweinlant]

First a Maori , then a Sri-Lankan, what's next , a Jap?
be serious and grow up Hweinlant or confess you just don't know too much about classification.;)

Man, I'm living incarnation of dictionary defination for classification. He does not have any mongoloid-affinity. South Asian (like Tamil) are product of much earlier population flows. They infact have much affinity to Cromagnon (as sense of the place in France where the Cromagnon-1 crania was found).

G. van Vark et al 2003 (Kennewick and Luzia: Lessons From the
European Upper Paleolithic)

http://i33.tinypic.com/281yg5k.jpg

See, lot of those Cromagnoids did resemble Aboriginals by their cranial metrics.

[Tony]

Man, I'm living incarnation of dictionary defination for classification.
Rep point for you then :D


He does not have any mongoloid-affinity.

But Maori do , so why a correlation between them and him?:rolleyes2:
http://www.copertinedvd.net/R/Rapa%20Nui%20-%20dvd.jpg


South Asian (like Tamil) are product of much earlier population flows. They infact have much affinity to Cromagnon (as sense of the place in France where the Cromagnon-1 crania was found).

G. van Vark et al 2003 (Kennewick and Luzia: Lessons From the
European Upper Paleolithic)

http://i33.tinypic.com/281yg5k.jpg

See, lot of those Cromagnoids did resemble Aboriginals by their cranial metrics.
Bah...
moreover the genetic (haplogroups , mtdDNA and stuff) of Sri Lankans and Southern Italians are completely different.

[Bari]

Any ugly and dark complexioned southern european gets classified as non-european or alien-looking to Europe by nordicists. He looks cro-magnid as mentioned, with med influence. He is dark, but comparing him to arabs and negroes makes no sense. One can find northern euros resembling that fat tamil warrior as much as this Calibrian.

I am really getting tired of certain people that seems to think southern europeans generally are to have same pigmentation and features as Northern Euros, only a bit darker hair and eyes. Snap back to reality.

[Hweinlant]

Rep point for you then :D


Where is my rep point ? :D



But Maori do , so why a correlation between them and him?:rolleyes2:


Maori have closer affinity to Old Skool Ainu (aka. Jomon "pseudo"-caucasoids, mongoloids, aka. Yayoi did not reach even Japan until 500bc), compare to Cheddar man (UK) in the chart I just posted. This is ofcource only metric affinity which does necessarily correlate with genetics, and mostly infact dont.



Bah...
moreover the genetic (haplogroups , mtdDNA and stuff) of Sri Lankans and Southern Italians are completely different.

Haplogroups have 0 correlation with metrics, absolutely 0. Haplogroups (or rather haplotypes inside of haplogroup) can have correlation with non-metric cranial features. Afaik haplogroup R is pretty common in Italy and in South Asia.

[Poltergeist]

Any ugly and dark complexioned southern european gets classified as non-european or alien-looking to Europe by nordicists. He looks cro-magnid as mentioned, with med influence. He is dark, but comparing him to arabs and negroes makes no sense. One can find northern euros resembling that fat tamil warrior as much as this Calibrian.

I am really getting tired of certain people that seems to think southern europeans generally are to have same pigmentation and features as Northern Euros, only a bit darker hair and eyes. Snap back to reality.

Whoever accepts the racial fetish, sooner or later gets what he deserved.

[Mesrine]

He's just ugly

I don't think he's that ugly. It's just a matter of awful hair and beardstyle, with x-large football shirts that make him look like Neanderthal. With the right haircut and clothes, he's OK (remember the laif is nau advert with Totti :D).

http://i34.tinypic.com/33da6pg.jpg

[Tony]

Haplogroups have 0 correlation with metrics, absolutely 0. Haplogroups (or rather haplotypes inside of haplogroup) can have correlation with non-metric cranial features.
Right , forgot to add autosomal DNA , that specifically linked to facial traits , among others.

Afaik haplogroup R is pretty common in Italy and in South Asia.
R per se means very little , wich subclade are we talking of? also 61% of French are R(1b) , 82% of Welsh are R (1b) so what?

I don't think he's that ugly. It's just a matter of awful hair and beardstyle, with x-large football shirts that make him look like Neanderthal. With the right haircut and clothes, he's OK (remember the laif is nau advert with Totti :D).

I'm actually not an expert in males' beauty , I only said that because all female friends of mine tell me he's ugly and make fun of him right because his Neanderthalian look and ringhio as well ahah.

[Hweinlant]

Right , forgot to add autosomal DNA , that specifically linked to facial traits , among others.


That is exactly why our footballer from Calabria may have some ancient direct connection to South Asia or, more likely, case of atavistic genetic recombination. His look imo is not typical (south) Italian at all.

http://i34.tinypic.com/mcg2on.jpg

Aboriginal (ancestry from South Asia) :thumb001:



R per se means very little , wich subclade are we talking of? also 61% of French are R(1b) , 82% of Welsh are R (1b) so what?


It means slight connection in population flow kind of way. Deep ancestral bloke somewhere in deep history (R1 dude lived some 18kya ago, in Asia).

[Mesrine]

I'm actually not an expert in males' beauty , I only said that because all female friends of mine tell me he's ugly

So it wasn't your opinion.



and make fun of him right because his Neanderthalian look and ringhio as well ahah.

Yes, that too. His attitude on football fields isn't helping him for sure.

[Sarmata]

Dark CM with Med(?) in my opinion. Rather common look in Southern Italy...Am I right?

[Guapo]

Since when does "genotype" have anything to do with a person's "phenotype"?

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11018-genes-reveal-west-african-heritage-of-white-brits.html


The research, funded by the Wellcome Trust, identified a rare West African Y chromosome in a group of men from Yorkshire who share a surname that dates back at least as far as the mid-14th century and have a typical European appearance.

[Voltar]

looks berid to me

[Svarog]

I'd classify him as a horrible midfielder that ruined the game and each and ever coach would love to have him in his team.

[Bridie]

http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/gennaro-gattuso-uefa-champions-league-semi-final-manchester-united-vs-ac-milan-may-2-2007-0ViggV.jpg
http://static.sky.it/static/images/sezioni/sport/calcio_italiano/10a_giornata_serie_a/gattuso_nuova_aglia_italia_confederations_cup.jpg

with his daughter
http://www.sportlive.it/gallery/foto/calcio/foto-gennaro-gattuso/gennaro_gattuso13.jpeg
His eyes remind me of a Croatian friend of mine's.



Very interesting look. Cromagnoid-like, with allmost South Asian (or Aboriginal) features. Mainly Cromagnoid tho'.
Strange that this guy is so rugged for a European... he is too gracile (in the face) for someone with Polynesian or Australoid blood. :p Also, his cheekbones are too flat, his nose not big enough, mouth not full and large enough and his eyes are just not SE Asian looking.

Compare to this actor of Samoan blood...

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2007/11/30/Jay_071130091930158_wideweb__300x375.jpg

http://www.cairns.com.au/images/uploadedfiles/editorial/pictures/2009/02/27/Cairns-WebUsual-CP28FEB09P777-CC145464-WEEKENDERF.JPG

[The Black Prince]

Joe Daltonoid.:P

Honestly I don't see anything Cromagnoid about him, compared with the other soccerplayers in the field he's small and his head has nothing large or massive imho.

I think he's actually a good example of the Classic/Gracile Mediterranid (http://carnby.altervista.org/troe/p-22.htm), a little bit rugged perhaps but he's a man and not every Mediterranid man is a gracile dressqueen..

[Alano]

Any ugly and dark complexioned southern european gets classified as non-european or alien-looking to Europe by nordicists. He looks cro-magnid as mentioned, with med influence. He is dark, but comparing him to arabs and negroes makes no sense. One can find northern euros resembling that fat tamil warrior as much as this Calibrian.

I am really getting tired of certain people that seems to think southern europeans generally are to have same pigmentation and features as Northern Euros, only a bit darker hair and eyes. Snap back to reality.

excellent post!:thumb001:

[Artur]

I don't know where you guys got this "asian attributes" on him. Gatuso is the very typical italian.

In ancient roman art, you can see lots of people like him, none blonde blue-eyed.

[safinator]

Med + CM

[tEhSaint]

Cromagnid with Mediterranid admixture.

[Ianus]

Alpine+Med

[Moonbird]

Pred Alpinoid with an East Med influence.

[Dynamo]

What's wrong with him? Typical southerner but looks a bit more exotic with the full beard. Consider him one of the best CDM in history.

[Vesuvian Sky]

LMAO at congoid, south asian!

He just has paleo-med genes. dude = hunter gatherer of the Med. region derived. Ergo, southern Cromagnid.

[EvilDave]

He's typical Southern Italian , nothing of "exotic" in him .

DinaroMed + CM

[The Blade]

He was a badass player.
Med + CM. Nothing exotic about him.

[Corded]

med + berid

[gıulıoımpa]

Berid/alpinoid = Southern CM

[Odin]

Berid.