Kosovo and Bosnia, problem for Austrian right wing politician

[Gorštak]

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HC Strache, leader of FPÖ, right wing Austria party that got more than 20% of votes in last elections in Austria, constantly make offensive claims on Bosniaks and Albanians, saying that Europe must pay special attention on us because we're Muslims, and he of course support that Kosovo is Serbia and that as much is possibly parts of Bosnia should be added to Serbia.
He even dare to say that we don't deserve visa-free regime just "because we're Muslims".
Also, Jews community is worried because of rise of his party.

People from non Muslims nation can't even imagine how this is frustrating, he probably would not even care about us if we are Christians, but because we are not, not just he cares, he is of course on the side that is against us, in that decision he doesn't care about any facts, just: one side Muslims = support their enemies.

I mean, I don't have problems because people don't want now immigrants(he is very against it) so they vote for him, but stop stuffing nose where it doesn't belong, most Albanians and Bosniaks are much better persons than this little phaggot, and we don't consider any Austrian as our enemy(actually Bosniaks have great relationship with Austria), but if somebody see me as enemy, then I will see him as same.

[Drawing-slim]

These extremist right wing party's in Europe today are very much faggot ignorants in nature.
And I mean true faggots. Lets put it this way, neither this guys party nor golden dawn are men enough to make threats nor speak against al-Qaeda, the true hardcore Muslim radicals, but they're willing to speak out loud against the most peaceful civilized Muslims in Europe, which also happened to be the most peace loving people in the Balkans by having zero records of aggression towards neighbors, only been the victims.

True faggot politicians, cunts, cowards in every way.

[Gorštak]

These extremist right wing party's in Europe today are very much faggot ignorants in nature.
And I mean true faggots. Lets put it this way, neither this guys party nor golden dawn are men enough to make threats nor speak against al-Qaeda, the true hardcore Muslim radicals, but they're willing to speak out loud against the most peaceful civilized Muslims in Europe, which also happened to be the most peace loving people in the Balkans by having zero records of aggression towards neighbors, only been the victims.

True faggot politicians, cunts, cowards in every way.

And like that isn't enough, extremists and radicals who abuse name of Islam hate more normal Muslims than people who are not Muslims at all.

[Drawing-slim]

And like that isn't enough, extremists and radicals who abuse name of Islam hate more normal Muslims than people who are not Muslims at all.
We just can't win, can we?:D
I think it's better for Albanians and Bosnians if they never enter the EU anyway..

[Gorštak]

We just can't win, can we?:D
I think it's better for Albanians and Bosnians if they never enter the EU anyway..

I'm a modest man.
I can pay internet and cable tv, I don't need anything more, and there is no wild immigrants with axes around:p
But it's thing of my government, they can do whatever they want, let them be part of EU, whatever, my life will stay same.

[Loki]

He's an idiot and a hater. And his kind of views sort of explain why people like Leliana believes what she believes. There's a lot of hate propaganda going in that part of Europe it seems.

[Corvus]

He's an idiot and a hater. And his kind of views sort of explain why people like Leliana believes what she believes. There's a lot of hate propaganda going in that part of Europe it seems.

He is definitly not as far right as portrayed by the international media. I have heard on Euronews and BBC that
the extreme right wing party FPÖ has gained so much votes on the expense of SPÖ and ÖVP. This term "far right" is far fetched.

He is just a man who wants the best for his own people and is against paternalism of the EU and the ESM liabilities.
Also he is not categorically against foreigner. He just demands integration and the duty to learn German and ofc also against the infiltration of radical Muslims in Austria.
And he has a big affinity for Serbs and Russians, which is shown by his advocacy for both nations to join the EU.

Apart from that his party is also against the nepotism and corruption which characterize the main two big parties on a large scale. I think this is one of the main reasons why FPÖ gained so much votes. Many people are fed up of this scandals which are sadly a regular occurance in Austria.

[Coldy Valdir]

Another right wing wannabe "nationalist socialist" party?

Not on MOSSAD watch!!

[La Misse]

He have no right to say anything about Albanian muslims, as long as Albanians love each other even with different religions why should he care?


He is a second Dick Martin!

[Gorštak]

He have no right to say anything about Albanian muslims, as long as Albanians love each other even with different religions why should he care?


He is a second Dick Martin!

Not all people hate just retarded extremists.
For some sort of people, every Muslim is too much Muslim.

[Gaston]

It shows well how the idea of "Europe" is a threat to cultures and national identities. I think Austrians should care about their own business since they have their own country.

[Gorštak]

What I noticed, that all right wing parties are huge Serbia supporters, if they start to rule Europe, dark days for Albanians and Bosniaks will come.
Ironically how Serbia killing most liberal Muslims in the world got reputation as "fighter against Islamization" among some movements.
I wish that really had "Islamists" on other side, not Bosniaks and Albanians.

[Corvus]

What I noticed, that all right wing parties are huge Serbia supporters, if they start to rule Europe, dark days for Albanians and Bosniaks will come.
Ironically how Serbia killing most liberal Muslims in the world got reputation as "fighter against Islamization" among some movements.
I wish that really had "Islamists" on other side, not Bosniaks and Albanians.

H.C. Strache in particular:

http://www.wienerzeitung.at/nachrichten/wahlen/nationalratswahl/573752_Liebe-Deine-Serben.html

[Gorštak]

H.C. Strache in particular:

http://www.wienerzeitung.at/nachrichten/wahlen/nationalratswahl/573752_Liebe-Deine-Serben.html

We have great relationship with Austria, and Austrian politician Mr. Alois Mock is one of people who really helped us in hard times during war, I would not love that some bastard destroy that all.
Don't blame us because some people from Africa or whatever make problems in Austria, Bosniaks living in Austria are model citizens.

[Tomorr]

Relax black swan you worry too much for no reason :) he is a harmless joke :D

[Gorštak]

Relax black swan you worry too much for no reason :) he is a harmless joke :D

I'm not scared for me.
I'm scared for them:)
But more then 20% of votes for his party I would not call a joke.

[Tomorr]

I'm not scared for me.
I'm scared for them:)
But more then 20% of votes for his party I would not call a joke.

That's the spirit :thumbs

I wonder though does he speak about the 500 000 Turks living in his country?

[Minesweeper]

HC Strache has my support but that has nothing to do with his opinions of Bosniaks or Albanians.

Now, since Islamism in Bosnia is on the rise and we already have pure Wahhabi villages and increased danger of terrorist attacks after recent incidents in Sarajevo, his concern is more then justified.

About Albanians, remember the protests in Skopje and bearded folks with Saudi flags. I know those people are minority but they exist and recruit!

[Gorštak]

HC Strache has my support but that has nothing to do with his opinions of Bosniaks or Albanians.

Now, since Islamism in Bosnia is on the rise and we already have pure Wahhabi villages and increased danger of terrorist attacks after recent incidents in Sarajevo, his concern is more then justified.

About Albanians, remember the protests in Skopje and bearded folks with Saudi flags. I know those people are minority but they exist.

I can't stand Wahhabis much more than you, if you actually know them you would know that they hate much more Muslims who are not "real" Muslims by their weird standards, and 99% of Bosniaks are not, than Christians.
But I see what are you trying to do, using global Islamophobia and trying to get something, even though there is much more those radicals in some European Christians majority states.
Wahhabis are best friends of Serbs, they act just like you would like that all Bosniaks, you would easily deal with them.
Modern, educated Bosniaks they are people that you see as problem.

[dralos]

HC Strache has my support but that has nothing to do with his opinions of Bosniaks or Albanians.

Now, since Islamism in Bosnia is on the rise and we already have pure Wahhabi villages and increased danger of terrorist attacks after recent incidents in Sarajevo, his concern is more then justified.

About Albanians, remember the protests in Skopje and bearded folks with Saudi flags. I know those people are minority but they exist and recruit!
those protests were about religion so many of them were torbesh,turks...

[Tomorr]

HC Strache has my support but that has nothing to do with his opinions of Bosniaks or Albanians.

Now, since Islamism in Bosnia is on the rise and we already have pure Wahhabi villages and increased danger of terrorist attacks after recent incidents in Sarajevo, his concern is more then justified.

About Albanians, remember the protests in Skopje and bearded folks with Saudi flags. I know those people are minority but they exist and recruit!

Why should he or you be worried about some gypsies waving Saudi flags? What will change once he takes power?

[Chieftain]

Hipocrisy, one of the greatest plagues that humanity has ever encountered.

It's 28th June, 1914, a parade is taking place in the streets of Sarajevo, where an enormous crowd is celebrating happily for the arrival of the austro-hungarian Archduke Franz Ferdinand and his wife, Sophie(Duchess of Hohenberg) on an offical meeting in the hope of improving the mutual relationships between the two countries.
All of a sudden, a young Serbian male, named Gavrillo Princip(member of the secret 'Black Hand' organization who had arranged their assasination methods and plans with over 8 members) steps out of cold darkness and aims his gun at the austrian archduke, and his wife, pulls the trigger and ends their life cycle in an instant, two innocent individuals unfortunately being in the wrong time, and the wrong place.
This unfortunate event causes an extreme wave of hate all around Europe, especially in the Balkans, and Austria(the famous propoganda line was Serbia muss sterbien-Serbia must die), where a depressed Bertold(Head-General of A-H military troops/corps) with the consent of Germany, declares war to Serbia.

Years go by, wars are won and lost,men die and succumb to the enivatable mystery of life, peace treaties are signed, but there will be no peace in Europe..
New nationalistic parties are born in Germany, Italy, Spain, Romania and all over Europe, where the most famous was the National-Socialistic party of Adolf Hitler, which by coincedence(the irony) has the same sentiment that existed many years ago in Austria, and this due to the famous 1941 Coup d'etat, held by several serbian pro-western and anti-nazi officals that led to the invasion of Serbia by the axis-military powers.
It's quite an irony, for such anti-german events to happen so often, yet a great pro-serbian love is still present in these lands.

However, as we know, the truth might delay but it will come out eventually, and by this I am talking about the constant non-religious sentiment across Albania mostly, but Bosnia and Kosovo aswell, and with the failed wahhabism sponsorship in these countries, the population is recently heading more towards non-religous(islamic) attitudes and ways of life, and a good part of them is converting to Protestanism or Christianity in general. With the decreasing islamic population in these countries, we would have peaceful catholics, protestants and non-religious people, whilst there would be still religious hooligans, the eastern orthodoxs.

I wonder what would this gentleman feel towards the catholic community of north-western Albania(Shkoder and the upper highlands), known in the past for great relations and mutual benefits in several cases and conflicts.

Also, I wonder, what would be the reason of interventing with other countries and their faith, when the immigration rates from these countries are low towards Austria, they should not be concerned about them, yet more about the immigration rates from the country that they support so hard, that gave their capital-Vienna(center of the germanic world and civilization) the name Belgrade of the west.

Now, what I call, parties like this and many others, are failed off-springs of what used to be once, the greatest nation/system in Europe.

[Minesweeper]

I can't stand Wahhabis much more than you, if you actually know them you would know that they hate much more Muslims who are not "real" Muslims by their weird standards, and 99% of Bosniaks are not, than Christians.
But I see what are you trying to do, using global Islamophobia and trying to get something, even though there is much more those radicals in some European Christians majority states.
Wahhabis are best friends of Serbs, they act just like you would like that all Bosniaks, you would easily deal with them.
Modern, educated Bosniaks they are people that you see as problem.

They'll go stronger as there is no repression of any sort and Bosnia is a country, open for Saudi money and influences. How can you guarantee that another Mevlid Jasarevic will not start shooting randomly in Sarajevo or somewhere else? With Bosnian passport he can enter any European country if I'm not mistaken. Not even Serbian passport is guarantee of safety as Bosnians and Albanians in Serbia are much more extreme.


Why should he or you be worried about some gypsies waving Saudi flags? What will change once he takes power?

Facing reality is a problem for you, it seems.

[dralos]

They'll go stronger as there is no repression of any sort and Bosnia is a country, open for Saudi money and influences. How can you guarantee that another Mevlid Jasarevic will not start shooting randomly in Sarajevo or somewhere else? With Bosnian passport he can enter any European country if I'm not mistaken. Not even Serbian passport is guarantee of safety as Bosnians and Albanians in Serbia are much more extreme.
serbs in serbia are the most extremist people that excist so stop spreading these bullshit or have you forgotten that your father even fought in the war and probably has commited some warcrimes

[Corvus]

Hipocrisy, one of the greatest plagues that humanity has ever encountered.

It's 28th June, 1914, a parade is taking place in the streets of Sarajevo, where an enormous crowd is celebrating happily for the arrival of the austro-hungarian Archduke Franz Ferdinand and his wife, Sophie(Duchess of Hohenberg) on an offical meeting in the hope of improving the mutual relationships between the two countries.
All of a sudden, a young Serbian male, named Gavrillo Princip(member of the secret 'Black Hand' organization who had arranged their assasination methods and plans with over 8 members) steps out of cold darkness and aims his gun at the austrian archduke, and his wife, pulls the trigger and ends their life cycle in an instant, two innocent individuals unfortunately being in the wrong time, and the wrong place.
This unfortunate event causes an extreme wave of hate all around Europe, especially in the Balkans, and Austria(the famous propoganda line was Serbia muss sterbien-Serbia must die), where a depressed Bertold(Head-General of A-H military troops/corps) with the consent of Germany, declares war to Serbia.

Years go by, wars are won and lost,men die and succumb to the enivatable mystery of life, peace treaties are signed, but there will be no peace in Europe..
New nationalistic parties are born in Germany, Italy, Spain, Romania and all over Europe, where the most famous was the National-Socialistic party of Adolf Hitler, which by coincedence(the irony) has the same sentiment that existed many years ago in Austria, and this due to the famous 1941 Coup d'etat, held by several serbian pro-western and anti-nazi officals that led to the invasion of Serbia by the axis-military powers.
It's quite an irony, for such anti-german events to happen so often, yet a great pro-serbian love is still present in these lands.

However, as we know, the truth might delay but it will come out eventually, and by this I am talking about the constant non-religious sentiment across Albania mostly, but Bosnia and Kosovo aswell, and with the failed wahhabism sponsorship in these countries, the population is recently heading more towards non-religous(islamic) attitudes and ways of life, and a good part of them is converting to Protestanism or Christianity in general. With the decreasing islamic population in these countries, we would have peaceful catholics, protestants and non-religious people, whilst there would be still religious hooligans, the eastern orthodoxs.

I wonder what would this gentleman feel towards the catholic community of north-western Albania(Shkoder and the upper highlands), known in the past for great relations and mutual benefits in several cases and conflicts.

Also, I wonder, what would be the reason of interventing with other countries and their faith, when the immigration rates from these countries are low towards Austria, they should not be concerned about them, yet more about the immigration rates from the country that they support so hard, that gave their capital(center of the germanic world and civilization) the name Little Belgrade.

Now, what I call, parties like this and many others, are failed off-springs of what used to be once, the greatest nation/system in Europe.

This is history, its irrelevant today, in present tense Austrians and Serbs have much in common, facing the same threat (Islam) and this explains the close relationship. And yes by some Vienna is called "Little Belgrade". But your allegation it has been the center of the Germanic world is pure nonsense. It has always been an immigration town throughout history and propably the least Germanic town of all in the German speaking world. Strache`s ancestors have also been Czechs or Slovaks.

[Minesweeper]

serbs in serbia are the most extremist people that excist so stop spreading these bullshit or have you forgotten that your father even fought in the war and probably has commited some warcrimes

And you father fled to Western Europe when it was hardest. Brave family. :laugh:

[dralos]

And you father fled to Western Europe when it was hardest. Brave family. :laugh:
we didnt get any guns from serbia to kill innoncent civilians like your father had the chance to do so

[Minesweeper]

we didnt get any guns from serbia to kill innoncent civilians like your father had the chance to do so

Is your surname cuntici or pussyci?

[Tomorr]

Facing reality is a problem for you, it seems.

Heh :D I know the "reality" very well. But don't you think the authorities are doing their best to prevent terrorist attacks? What I'm wondering is what will that Strache guy do about it? Close the border? Deport all muslims/immigrants? What has he promised?

[Corvus]

Heh :D I know the "reality" very well. But don't you think the authorities are doing their best to prevent terrorist attacks? What I'm wondering is what will that Strache guy do about it? Close the border? Deport all muslims/immigrants? What has he promised?

He can`t do anything atm because he is not going to be the new Chancellor,
but if he would finally get in power I bet Muslims would face a hard time.

[Minesweeper]

Heh :D I know the "reality" very well. But don't you think the authorities are doing their best to prevent terrorist attacks? What I'm wondering is what will that Strache guy do about it? Close the border? Deport all muslims/immigrants? What has he promised?

I'm afraid I'm not the right person to answer those questions.

[Chieftain]

This is history, its irrelevant today, in present tense Austrians and Serbs have much in common and this explains the close relationship. And yes by some Vienna is called "Little Belgrade". But your allegation it has been the center of the Germanic world is pure nonsense. It has always been an immigration town throughout history and propably the least Germanic town of all in the German speaking world. Strache`s ancestors have also been Czechs or Slovaks.

“The past is never dead. It's not even past'- William Faulkner, Requiem for a Nun

'Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards'-Søren Kierkegaard


History is irrelevant, yet if there were no particular past events, we would not be feasting upon this planet, and european civilization in general takes huge pride in re-collecting historical events that helped in building what's Europe today.

I partially agree with your statement, specifically with the first part of it(Vienna has been an immigration melting plot for a lot of time due to being the empire's center) but the mass immigration/population from any country would never benefit a second country, neverthless how close they might be(in this case they're racially different too, slavic with germanic)

It might be true that nowadays serbs might have more connection to austrians due to their religious feelings and their anti-muslim hate sentiments, but the demographics are slowly turning against them, as the non-religious sentiment across albanians, and bosniaks partially is spreading like a heat wave, the wahhabist islamic radical movements in these countries are disliked and rejected by the own native population. I will give you a hint, in BiH, there is a political movement/organization called BPNP(Bosanski Pokret Nacjonalnog Ponosa) made of both muslims(non-religious or anti-radical) and catholic bogomil bosniaks, who has declared an open war to wahhabist sponsorship in BiH, and based on the last events from BiH, I would say that the radical wahhabist movements in BiH are over, and they have their days numbered.

However, it's true that nowadays catholic austrians feel closer to orthodox christian serbs, but the anti-religious(anti-islamic in general) sentiment is growing steadily in BiH, Kosovo and Albania, with a few left-over ottomans or islamic-sponsored individuals slowly fading from the scene, as the rejection on them keeps increasing.
In a future time, I'd be curious to know if catholic austrians would feel closer to catholic albanians(non-slavic) or non-religious bosniaks(non-slavic aswell) rather than eastern orthodox serbians.

[dralos]

I'm afraid I'm not the right person to answer those questions.
why did you fled to bosnia,was it bcs your father wanted to avoid prosecution for warcrimes and genocide,typical cowards running away from responsibility instead of taking it like a man,i bet your parents are divorced no women would stay with such a coward as your father the killer of civilians

[Minesweeper]

why did you fled to bosnia,was it bcs your father wanted to avoid prosecution for warcrimes and genocide,typical cowards running away from responsibility instead of taking it like a man,i bet your parents are divorced no women would stay with such a coward as your father the killer of civilians

You were the first to abandon sinking ship. :laugh:

[dralos]

Rats are the first to abandon sinking ship.
so your father is a rat and great that you finally express your love for kosova by calling it a sinking ship

[dralos]

if he was a real man he would be rotting in his cell today for his crimes but since he is a rat he escaped from the hands of mother justice by hiding in srpska dump,you just pray that the international community wont be coming to search for him one day

[Vukodav]

darlos, really man, are you that desperate to insult family members?

[Minesweeper]

Funny how you wrote two posts instead of one, you wanna frighten me with them, cuntici? lol


darlos, really man, are you that desperate to insult family members?

That's what Gypsies usually do.

[dralos]

Funny how you wrote two posts instead of one, you wanna frighten me with them, cuntici? lol



That's what Gypsies usually do.
better a gypsy than someone who takes innoncent lifes of children,mothers...
anyway you wanted to play the religion card but forgot about the genocidal card wich can be used against you so think before you spill other lies and propaganda from your rotten mouth
so keep hiding in srpska dump atleast
dralos out :p

[Minesweeper]

better a gypsy than someone who takes innoncent lifes of children,mothers...
anyway you wanted to play the religion card but forgot about the genocidal card wich can be used against you so think before you spill other lies and propaganda from your rotten mouth
so keep hiding in srpska dump atleast
dralos out :p

Sounds good to me, as long as you admit what you actually are. ;)

[Tomorr]

I'm afraid I'm not the right person to answer those questions.

But you said that you supported him? Or are you telling me the only reason you do is just because he is against Kosovos independence, and that alone convinced you :)?

[Minesweeper]

But you said that you supported him? Or are you telling me the only reason you do is just because he is against Kosovos independence, and that alone convinced you :)?

I support them because they are ideologically closest to me from all other Austrian parties. How are they going to solve the problems in Austria when and if they ever win in the elections, it's their concern.

[Coldy Valdir]

My fellow Albanians why do you even reply to Serbs?

Let them wet their bed at night dreaming about Kosovo.

[Gorštak]

My fellow Albanians why do you even reply to Serbs?

Let them wet their bed at night dreaming about Kosovo.

From such a huge plans
http://www.zaslike.com/files/surplx5mmixksgvacyo6.jpg

They would today be happy if they keep current borders of Serbia.