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Fire Haired
10-06-2013, 09:41 AM
mtDNA hg=93
H=32 34.4%(H1=6(H1j=1,H1bz=1,H1e=3(H1e7=1, H1e1a5)(H23=1,H5b=1,H16=1,H26=1,H46b=1,H88=1,H7d5= 1,H2=3)
T=16 17.2%(T2=7(T2b=3(T2b23a=1) T2e=1)
K=13 14%
N1a=9 9.6%(N1a1=8(N1a1a=7(N1a1a1=2, N1a1a2=1, N1a1a3=1) N1a1b=1)
J=6 6.4%(J*=1)
HVO=4 4.3%
X=3 3.3%(X2=2(X2j-1)
W=3 3.2%
V=3 3.2%
U=2 2.1%(U5a1a=1, U3=1)
HV=2 2.1%





LBK
Eilsleben, Germany (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=yasinovataya&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x40e0866157befe37:0xe06babbb5765d34,Yasynuv ata,+Donetsk+Oblast,+Ukraine&gl=us&ei=5KI0UuqbIcWPqwG-koDQBw&ved=0CIwBELYD) 5,000bc mtDNA hg=1: H*=1
Flomborn, Germany (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=yasinovataya&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x40e0866157befe37:0xe06babbb5765d34,Yasynuv ata,+Donetsk+Oblast,+Ukraine&gl=us&ei=5KI0UuqbIcWPqwG-koDQBw&ved=0CIwBELYD) 5,000bc mtDNA hg=5 H*=1, N1a1a1=1, T=1, K=2
Schwetzingen , Germany (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=yasinovataya&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x40e0866157befe37:0xe06babbb5765d34,Yasynuv ata,+Donetsk+Oblast,+Ukraine&gl=us&ei=5KI0UuqbIcWPqwG-koDQBw&ved=0CIwBELYD) 5,000bc mtDNA hg=1 H*=1
Halberstadt, Germany (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=yasinovataya&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x40e0866157befe37:0xe06babbb5765d34,Yasynuv ata,+Donetsk+Oblast,+Ukraine&gl=us&ei=5KI0UuqbIcWPqwG-koDQBw&ved=0CIwBELYD) mtDNA hg=7 H=4(H1e=1, H23=1, H26=1), N1a1a2=1, T=1, V=1
Karsdorf, Germany (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=yasinovataya&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x40e0866157befe37:0xe06babbb5765d34,Yasynuv ata,+Donetsk+Oblast,+Ukraine&gl=us&ei=5KI0UuqbIcWPqwG-koDQBw&ved=0CIwBELYD) 5,000bc mtDNA hg=3: H=3(H1bz=1, H46b=1)
Unterwiederstedt Germany 5,000bc mtDNA hg=9: J=2, K=2, N1a1a=3(N1a1a3=1), T2=2 (T2b23a=1)
Seenhausen, Germany (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Alf%C3%B6ld+culture&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&sa=N&tab=wl) 5,000bc mtDNA hg=1: J*=1
Schwetzingen , Germany (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Alf%C3%B6ld+culture&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&sa=N&tab=wl) 5,000bc mtDNA hg=3: T=3
Vaihingen an der , Germany (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Alf%C3%B6ld+culture&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&sa=N&tab=wl) 5,000bc mtDNA hg=1: U3=1

5,247bc mtDNA hg= 1: HV=1, Y DNA hg=1: F(xI,J,K,H,G)=1
5,122bc mtDNA hg=1: H1j
5,117bc mtDNA hg=2 N1a1a1=1, T2b=1
5,112bc mtDNA hg=3 H=2, HV=1
5,000bc Y DNA hg=2 G2a3 L30=1, F(I,J,K,H,G)=1, mtDNA hg=17: H=2(H88=1), K=3, J=3, T=4(T2=2(T2b=1), N1a=2(N1a1b=1), W=2, U5a1a=1
4,982bc mtDNA hg=1: K
4,910bc mtDNA hg=1: V

Total Derenburg
Y DNA hg=3: F(X I,J,G,H,K)=1, G2a3 L30=1, F(I,J,G,H,K)=1
mtDNA hg=26: T=5 19%( T2=3(T2b=2), H=5 19%(H1j=1, H88=1), K=4 15.4%, J=3 11.5% N1a=3 11.5%(N1a1=2(N1a1a1=1, N1a1b=1), W=2 8%, HV=2 U5a1a=1 4%, V=1 4%

Total German LBK
Y DNA hg=3 F(X I,J,K,H,G)=1, G2a3 L30=1, F(I,J,K,G,H)=1
mtDNA hg=57: H=15 26.3%(H*=3, H1=3(H1j=1, H1bz=1, H1e=1), H23=1, H26=1, H46b=1, H88=1) T=12 21.21%(T2=5 21%(T2b=3(T2b23a=1), N1a=8 14%(N1a1=7(N1a1a=6(N1a1a1=2, N1a1a2=1, N1a1a3=1), N1a1b=1), K=9 15.8%, J=6 10.5%(J*=1), U=2 3.5%(U5a1a=1, U3=1), W=2 3.5%, V=2 3.5%, HV=2 3.5%

Rossen culture (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CC4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FR%25C3% 25B6ssen_culture&ei=vsI0UtrrLoePrgH1u4DACA&usg=AFQjCNEQzcPqIedOWS4CTLYH3EUXCeQ6xg&sig2=hjaNU_3ilnXHEUSDSBLTWw&bvm=bv.52164340,d.aWM), Oberweiderstedt, Germany (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Alf%C3%B6ld+culture&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&sa=N&tab=wl) 4,625-4,250bc mtDNA hg=10: H=4 40%(H1=1, H5b=1, H16=1, H89=1), HVO=1 10%, T2=2 20%(T2e=1), X2j=1, N1a1a=1, K=1

Schöningen, Germany 4,100-3,950bc mtDNA hg=2: H=2(H10i=1, H1e7=1)

Baalburge group (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baalberge_group) of branch of funnel beaker culture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funnelbeaker_culture)
Esperstdt, Germany 3,950-3,400bc mtDNA hg=1: H1e1a5
Halle - Quesi Germany 3,950-3,400bc mtDNA hg=1: H7d5

Slazmude Germany 3,400-3,025bc mtDNA hg=2: H3=2

Calden and Odagsen Germany 3,400-3,000bc mtDNA hg=7 Calden H2=2, HVO=1, X2=1, Odagsen HVO=2, H2=1 TOTAL H2=3, HVO=3, X2=1

Bernber Germany 3,100-2,800bc mtDNA hg=12: H=4, K=3, T=2, V=1, W=1, X=1

Fire Haired
10-09-2013, 11:16 PM
Update
mtDNA=101
H=34 33.6%(H1=7(H1e=3(H1e7=1, H1e1e5=1), H1j=1, H1bz=1), H*=4, H3=2, H?=2, H2=2, H10i=1. H23=1, H26=1, H46b=1, H88=1, H7d5=1, H5b=1, H16=1, H89=1)
T=18 17.8%(T2=9(T2b=3(T2b reported as T2=2, T2b23a reported as T2=1, T2 reported as T=1)
K=15 14.8%
N1a=9 9%(N1a1=8(N1a1a=7(N1a1a1=2, N1a1a2=1, N1a1a3=1), N1a1b=1)
J=7 7%(J1c=1, J*=1)
HV=6 6%(HVO=4(HVO reported as HV=1)
W=3 3%
X=3 3%(X2=2(X2j reported as X2=1)
U=3 3%(U5a1a=1, U3=1)
V=3 3%(V?=1)

Fire Haired
10-10-2013, 03:09 AM
Weren't Sami and maybe other Uralic tribes in far northern and eastern Europe the last European hunter gathers. I don't know how long they have farmed they have had contact with Germanic people for probably over 3,000 years and are mentioned by Tacitus a Roman writer about 2,000 years ago. Today and I would guess for at least 1,000 years have been totally modernized but I think they have kept only being hunter gathers some even today. Austomally they are the closest to Mesloithic and Neolithic European hunter gather samples. I know nothing about how Austomal DNA actually woks but the tests I have seen with specifically European groups their disturbed the same way and are usually called North Euro so who ever has the most I guess is closest to the hunter gathers and Finnish and Sami have the most.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_WSQsPuiQ9Nc/S9_3tOBjKZI/AAAAAAAACDA/ofAVZ5ikp9U/s640/1+Nomad_Sami_late_1800eds_Northern_Sweden_Norway__ Credit_Saamiblog.jpg

Smeagol
10-10-2013, 03:16 AM
I think Saami are actually the most North European people.

Fire Haired
10-12-2013, 06:23 AM
I think Saami are actually the most North European people.

That post was meant for a Eupedia thread and technically I think they do live farthest north of any Europeans. I do not think there is a such thing as North European everyone in northern Europe has a different history. Just Northern Europeans since their farther north had less admixture with farmers.

Maleficent
10-12-2013, 06:36 AM
Does U2e fit in here at all?! I'm not done with my maternal family history research, but it's very possible my direct maternal line goes back to Germany.....

Prisoner Of Ice
10-12-2013, 06:44 AM
It's probably in hunter gatherers, who we don't have a lot of ancient dna for.