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Jonik
10-06-2013, 01:36 PM
Most likely fit is 8.7% (+- 4.0%) Europe (various subcontinents) and 91.3% (+- 4.0%) Europe (all Northeast Europe) which is 100% total Europe

The following are possible population sets and their fractions, most likely at the top
Irish= 0.175 Lithuani= 0.825 or
Spain= 0.069 Lithuani= 0.931 or
English= 0.122 Lithuani= 0.878 or
French= 0.092 Lithuani= 0.908 or
Sardinia= 0.039 Lithuani= 0.961 or
Hungary= 0.127 Lithuani= 0.873 or
Basque= 0.049 Lithuani= 0.951 or
Italian= 0.063 Lithuani= 0.937 or
Tuscan= 0.056 Lithuani= 0.944 or
Romania= 0.078 Lithuani= 0.922

which is just saying a bit west or south of Lithuania. Given that the typical error of the spot on the map is 175 miles and error of 600 are not uncommon, its doing quite OK.
Doug McDonald

http://image-upload.de/image/Hi7l2w/2793a652db.png

http://image-upload.de/image/g2mp2p/7f0adc1682.png

http://image-upload.de/image/lFeRtC/df9a24fa3d.png

Skywalker
10-06-2013, 09:19 PM
My Dr. McD. Results
The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
most likely at the top
English= 0.839 Sicily= 0.161
Germany= 0.800 Sicily= 0.200 or
English= 0.777 Tuscan= 0.223 or
English= 0.644 Romania= 0.356 or
Germany= 0.725 Tuscan= 0.275 or
Germany= 0.580 Romania= 0.420 or
Lithuania= 0.515 Tuscan= 0.485 or
English= 0.726 Italian= 0.274 or
Irish= 0.647 Tuscan= 0.353 or
Poland= 0.610 Tuscan= 0.390



A custom fit gives

English 0.1854 Russian 0.4489 Tuscan 0.3657 or

Hungary 0.7881 Lithuania 0.1330 Sephardic 0.0789 or

Russian 0.1721 Tuscan 0.1431 Hungary 0.6848 or

Russian 0.4494 French 0.2745 Tuscan 0.2761 or

Russian 0.1202 Sicily 0.0814 Hungary 0.7983 or

Poland 0.2034 Hungary 0.7191 Sephardic 0.0774 or

Belorus 0.1402 Hungary 0.8014 Sephardic 0.0583 or

Irish 0.1713 Russian 0.4303 Tuscan 0.3984 or

Russian 0.2801 Germany 0.4729 Sicily 0.2469 or

French 0.2562 Poland 0.5814 Sephardic 0.1623 or

English 0.2770 Lithuania 0.4608 Sephardic 0.2622

and the geographic map with the higher number. This looks very accurate for
what you expect and averages 5.8% Sephardic.
Doug

Skywalker
10-06-2013, 09:31 PM
Silly question but are you guys able to see my links? I'm new on here and wasn't sure how to post images like Jonik did.

Thor2009
10-06-2013, 09:42 PM
The automated computer results are as follows.
Please read the attached .rtf file for an explanation of how to
interpret all the data and plots. Both can be misleading without interpretation.

Most likely fit is 100% English (Western Europe)
which is 100% total Europe
The location error = 0.005857 with 1 group

The following are possible populations,
most likely at the top:
English= 1.000

and its mostly that, with just a bit of Continental European, to move the map
spot a bit east. There is also a reliable 1% sub-Saharan African of unknown sort.

Doug McDonald

Probably a pretty typical result, and not entirely unexpected.

Oneeye
10-06-2013, 09:46 PM
Is McDonald still doing these? I haven't been able to successfully get a hold of him to see if he'd analyze my mother's genome.


Here is mine:


Most likely fit is 95.3% (+- 0.6%) Europe (all Western Europe)

and 1.2% (+- 0.1%) America (various subcontinents)

and 3.5% (+- 0.6%) Mideast (various subcontinents)



The following are possible population sets and their fractions,

most likely at the top

English= 0.947 Na-Dene= 0.013 Jewish= 0.041 or

English= 0.955 Na-Dene= 0.013 Armenian= 0.032 or

English= 0.947 Pima= 0.011 Jewish= 0.042 or

English= 0.959 Na-Dene= 0.013 Druze= 0.028 or

English= 0.947 Columbia= 0.011 Jewish= 0.042 or

English= 0.956 Pima= 0.011 Armenian= 0.033 or

English= 0.956 Columbia= 0.011 Armenian= 0.033 or

English= 0.946 Maya= 0.012 Jewish= 0.042 or

English= 0.960 Pima= 0.011 Druze= 0.029 or

English= 0.960 Columbia= 0.011 Druze= 0.029



But the American and Midest are likely simply not real ... they

are indicating that the average DNA is from just a bit east of England. The

American MIGHT indicate a far northern “east” (i.e. arctic). Maybe.


http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u399/hammer1115/Christopher_Hammersla_Full_20120401185638BGA1.png (http://s1065.photobucket.com/user/hammer1115/media/Christopher_Hammersla_Full_20120401185638BGA1.png. html)


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http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u399/hammer1115/Christopher_Hammersla_Full_20120401185638BGA3.png (http://s1065.photobucket.com/user/hammer1115/media/Christopher_Hammersla_Full_20120401185638BGA3.png. html)

Oneeye
10-06-2013, 09:51 PM
Silly question but are you guys able to see my links? I'm new on here and wasn't sure how to post images like Jonik did.

I was able to. :thumb001:

Skywalker
10-06-2013, 10:01 PM
Thanks Oneeye for letting me know. As far as Dr. McDonald still doing these, last I heard he would do them for adoptees, people looking for Jewish, Roma, and Native American, but he did say if you know you are pretty much European he would rather not do it as he is overwhelmed. He also said that he will still do them for those that tested at Family Tree DNA and Ancestry as their systems are not on par to his, like 23&me's is. These are my results from April when I heard he had new samples. I didn't expect him to find Sephardic for me, but I was interested as I heard he had German, Sicily, and Poland that I can remember off the top of my head. I like the admixture part of these tests, and as I am new here I have been posting my results from the various calculators on Gedmatch. Thanks again.

Jonik
10-06-2013, 10:32 PM
Silly question but are you guys able to see my links? I'm new on here and wasn't sure how to post images like Jonik did.

For reduce size if big here: http://www.picresize.com/
Use copy your Hotlink here: http://image-upload.de/
Remove "v" during URL installation to your post.

Patches
10-07-2013, 12:47 AM
Here are my results:
Most likely fit is 73.4% (+- 17.9%) Europe (all Western Europe)
and 26.6% (+- 17.9%) Europe (various subcontinents)
which is 100% total Europe

The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
most likely at the top
Spain= 0.464 Lithuani= 0.536 or
French= 0.647 Lithuani= 0.353 or
Irish= 0.862 Tuscan= 0.138 or
French= 0.282 Irish= 0.718 or
Irish= 0.532 Hungary= 0.468 or
Irish= 0.783 Romania= 0.217 or
Irish= 0.849 Italian= 0.151

This is British with some Continental European and 0.3% African.
http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p535/PureEvil91/Pure_Evil_Full_20130125232826BGA21_zps847fbd12.png (http://s1154.photobucket.com/user/PureEvil91/media/Pure_Evil_Full_20130125232826BGA21_zps847fbd12.png .html)

http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p535/PureEvil91/Pure_Evil_Full_20130125232826BGA12_zpse6e14269.png (http://s1154.photobucket.com/user/PureEvil91/media/Pure_Evil_Full_20130125232826BGA12_zpse6e14269.png .html)

http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p535/PureEvil91/Pure_Evil_Full_20130125232826BGA3_zps0b0da29c.png (http://s1154.photobucket.com/user/PureEvil91/media/Pure_Evil_Full_20130125232826BGA3_zps0b0da29c.png. html)

Sehnsucht
10-13-2013, 04:26 PM
Tomato Tom's SNP McDonald Analysis


"Most likely fit is 87.5% (+- 10.2%) Europe (all Western Europe)
and 12.5% (+- 10.2%) Europe (various subcontinents)
which is 100% total Europe"

The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
most likely at the top
Spain= 0.265 Irish= 0.735
French= 0.466 Irish= 0.534
English= 0.949 Chuvash= 0.051
Irish= 0.877 Sardinia= 0.123
Irish= 0.753 Italian= 0.247
Irish= 0.791 Tuscan= 0.209
French= 0.754 Finland= 0.246

however, plain 100% English fits quite OK. This looks like English
with just a little bit of some Continental."

http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt279/german24/Jacob_Wittenberg_Full_20111105130410BGA1.png

http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt279/german24/Jacob_Wittenberg_Full_20111105130410BGA2.png

http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt279/german24/Jacob_Wittenberg_Full_20111105130410BGA4.png

Sehnsucht
10-13-2013, 04:29 PM
Tomato Tom's Mother's SNP McDonald Analysis


"Most likely fit is 100% Europe (various subcontinents)

The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
most likely at the top
Russian= 0.240 French= 0.760
Finland= 0.244 French= 0.756
Tuscan= 0.271 Irish= 0.729
Romania= 0.435 Irish= 0.565
Finland= 0.455 Italian= 0.545

This is more easterly ... It could be Low Countries, but given what you said
about your family, more likely English/German or Irish/German "

http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt279/german24/Anna_Fuchs_Full_20111106094210BGA1.png

http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt279/german24/Anna_Fuchs_Full_20111106094210BGA2.png

http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt279/german24/Anna_Fuchs_Full_20111106094210BGA3.png

Sehnsucht
10-13-2013, 06:14 PM
Tomato Tom's Maternal Aunt's SNP McDonald Analysis


"The computer tried too hard and got over-fit results. A more reliable custom fit says:

English 0.9296 Georgian 0.0704 or
English 0.9229 Adygei 0.0771 or
English 0.8780 Romania 0.1220 or
English 0.9214 Tuscan 0.0876 or
English 0.9361 Sicily 0.0639 or
English 0.8785 Hungary 0.1215 or
English 0.8551 Germany 0.1449 or
English 0.9209 Italian 0.0791

which is saying English with some small central European.
MIDEAST ON THE CHROMOSOMES IS WEAK AND MEANINGLESS

Doug McDonald"

http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt279/german24/Marie_Fuchs_Full_20130612075337BGA1_zpsdd6713c2.pn g

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I'm not sure what to say about these results. The fact that the chromosome painting has such large Mideastern segments concerns me. He said the Mideastern segments on the chromosomes weak and meaningless, but they appear to be very large. So I'm not sure if they actually represent having Middle Eastern ancestry or not. On the contrary, Dr Mcdonald says that it looks English with a little bit of Continental European, and the dot plots he sent agree with this. Still, I'm not sure how a person who tests English/Continental Euro could show so much Mideast on their chromosomes

Mazik
10-13-2013, 06:31 PM
Mazik's grandfather's McDonald analysis:


Most likely fit is 66.0% (+- 19.7%) Europe (all Northeast Europe)

and 34.0% (+- 19.7%) Europe (various subcontinents)

which is 100% total Europe



The following are possible population sets and their fractions,

most likely at the top

Russian= 0.839 Basque= 0.161 or

Chuvash= 0.284 Irish= 0.716 or

Finland= 0.821 Tuscan= 0.179 or

Russian= 0.654 English= 0.346 or

Finland= 0.809 Italian= 0.191 or

Russian= 0.550 Irish= 0.450,

or doing a custom fit to North European + Siberia:



Irish 0.6244 Russian 0.3343 Chukchi 0.0413or

Irish 0.5673 Russian 0.2633 Chuvash 0.1695 or

Irish 0.6246 Russian 0.3213 Dolgan 0.0541 or

Irish 0.6214 Russian 0.3379 Nganassan 0.0407



Which is exactly as expected: Swedes tend to test as Ireland+Russia,

rather than Finland + (something). Saami can test as anywhere in Siberia +

European.



The Asian and American on the chromosomes are actually Siberian.



Doug McDonald

http://s21.postimg.org/tksevmriv/E_Andersson_Full_20130115172138_BGA1.png

http://s21.postimg.org/9eowwqvvb/E_Andersson_Full_20130115172138_BGA2.png

http://s21.postimg.org/ue50o8xjr/E_Andersson_Full_20130115172138_BGA3.png

http://s21.postimg.org/yyr736h93/E_Andersson_Full_20130115172138_BGA4.png

Sehnsucht
10-13-2013, 07:25 PM
Tomato Tom's Maternal Grandmother's SNP Mcdonald analysis


Most likely fit is 100% Europe (various subcontinents)



The following are possible population sets and their fractions,

most likely at the top

Irish= 0.745 Tuscan= 0.255 or

Irish= 0.811 Sicily= 0.189 or

English= 0.345 Hungary= 0.655 or

Germany= 0.290 Hungary= 0.710 or

Irish= 0.211 Hungary= 0.789 or

Irish= 0.623 Romania= 0.377 or

Poland= 0.700 Tuscan= 0.300 or

Poland= 0.174 Hungary= 0.826 or

Hungary= 0.885 Lithuania= 0.115 or

Irish= 0.697 Italian= 0.303

Second most likely fit is 87.1% (+- 4.4%) Europe (various subcontinents)

and 12.9% (+- 4.4%) Mideast (various subcontinents)



The following are possible population sets and their fractions,

most likely at the top

Irish= 0.822 Jewish= 0.178 or

Irish= 0.841 Sephardic= 0.159 or

English= 0.918 Turkish= 0.082 or

Irish= 0.876 Druze= 0.124 or

Irish= 0.852 Cypriot= 0.148 or

Germany= 0.889 Turkish= 0.111 or

English= 0.910 Adygei= 0.090 or

Germany= 0.876 Jewish= 0.124 or

Poland= 0.788 Jewish= 0.212 or

English= 0.936 Iranian= 0.064



but a custom, more accurate, fit:



English 0.6812 Italian 0.2144 Lithuania 0.1043 or

English 0.6291 Spain 0.2518 Lithuania 0.1191 or

English 0.7324 Tuscan 0.1710 Lithuania 0.0966 or

English 0.6792 Italian 0.1999 Poland 0.1209 or

English 0.7036 Italian 0.1931 Belorus 0.1033 or

English 0.7554 Basque 0.0302 Romania 0.2144 or

English 0.5606 Italian 0.1819 Germany 0.2575 or

English 0.6246 Poland 0.1417 Spain 0.2337 or

English 0.7656 Romania 0.2080 Lithuania 0.0264



makes it clear that it is English with some other rather vague Continental

European. Actually probably even more than 75% English.



Doug McDonald

http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt279/german24/view_zpsb6e16389.png

http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt279/german24/view_zps0cf3d87b.png

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http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt279/german24/view_zps74239187.png

lady
10-14-2013, 12:19 AM
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-3XU4OLNV.jpg
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-BWFPLQKT.jpg
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto550-7IL7R7OE.jpg
http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto-LM3U4C3T.jpg



Chuvash 0.1226 Belorus 0.8264 Georgian 0.0510 or

Chuvash 0.1411 Lithuania 0.7389 Sephardic 0.1200 or

Chuvash 0.1153 Belorus 0.8292 Adygei 0.0555 or

Sicily 0.1348 Chuvash 0.1428 Lithuania 0.7224 or

Romania 0.2154 Chuvash 0.1355 Lithuania 0.6491 or

Chuvash 0.1455 Lithuania 0.7493 Georgian 0.1052

He also wrotes:
"The E. Asian on the chromosomes fits the Chuvash or some

other Russian/Siberian area."

So, he did a custom fit. I am mostly Russian, I have Lithuanian roots as well as Finnish/Swedish, Volga/Ural+(maybe) Tatars.
Romania is not my case, 21% I would have known about, as for the rest, it seems reliable...
Many calculators show me Italy/Sicily/Tuscan... and also his. I don't find it anywhere in my matches.
Strange MidEast on the map and not on chromosomes, and something wrong With my X-chromosome...

Skywalker
10-14-2013, 03:16 AM
[QUOTE=lady; and something wrong With my X-chromosome...[/QUOTE]

Hi lady. If you tested at Family Tree DNA they have their X chromosome data as a separate download. Make sure that you download it and then send it to Dr. McDonald. Just let him know that you forgot to attach that file as well. I did the same thing when I first received my results. So I just resent him everything including the X data.

7eleven
10-14-2013, 03:31 AM
Most likely fit is 67.9% (+- 13.5%) Europe (all Western Europe)
and 32.1% (+- 13.5%) Mideast (various subcontinents)

The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
most likely at the top
English= 0.690 Palestin= 0.310 or
French= 0.778 Palestin= 0.222 or
French= 0.797 Bedouin= 0.203 or
French= 0.812 Egyptian= 0.188 or
Irish= 0.465 Jewish= 0.535 or
English= 0.531 Jewish= 0.469

In fact this is clearly British/Irish – Jewish.

Doug McDonald

http://imageshack.us/a/img837/5388/newarkgoldfull201209141.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img17/5430/alexloomisfull201204142.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img194/5972/gtrgdgd.png

lady
10-14-2013, 06:05 AM
Hi lady. If you tested at Family Tree DNA they have their X chromosome data as a separate download. Make sure that you download it and then send it to Dr. McDonald. Just let him know that you forgot to attach that file as well. I did the same thing when I first received my results. So I just resent him everything including the X data.

I sent him my X-chromosome. He must have forgotten it :(
anyway, I wrote him and thanked, of course, but also asked about it.
My X-chromosome has the most interesting matches on Gedmatch so I want to see it a lot :)

StarDS9
10-14-2013, 11:54 AM
Most likely fit is 100.0% (+- 0.0%) Mideast (all )

and 0.0% (+- 0.0%) Europe (all )



The following are possible population sets and their fractions,

most likely at the top

Iranian= 0.923 Germany= 0.077 or

Iranian= 0.926 Irish= 0.074 or

Iranian= 0.922 English= 0.078 or

Iranian= 0.916 French= 0.084 or

Iranian= 0.928 Poland= 0.072 or

Iranian= 0.913 Hungary= 0.087 or

Iranian= 0.934 Lithuania= 0.066 or

Iranian= 0.895 Romania= 0.105 or

Iranian= 0.927 Belorus= 0.073 or

Iranian= 0.933 Russian= 0.067

Second most likely fit is 100% Mideast (all )



The following are possible population sets and their fractions,

most likely at the top

Iranian= 0.699 Adygei= 0.301 or

Georgian= 0.302 Iranian= 0.698



together amd with the chromosome plot these imply I should do a custom fit

wincluding India and Pakistan and I get



Turkish 0.8081 Brahui 0.1919 or

Turkish 0.8065 Balochi 0.1935 or

Turkish 0.7939 Makrani 0.2061 or

Iranian 0.6386 Turkish 0.3614 or

Romania 0.1232 Iranian 0.8768 or

Germany 0.0834 Iranian 0.9166 or

Belorus 0.0817 Iranian 0.9183 or

Hungary 0.0984 Iranian 0.9016 or

Poland 0.0806 Iranian 0.9194

http://i36.tinypic.com/etiiwk.png
http://i37.tinypic.com/dpfdqx.png
http://i38.tinypic.com/347wb5z.png
http://i34.tinypic.com/2mgs01i.png

Skywalker
10-15-2013, 01:40 AM
I sent him my X-chromosome. He must have forgotten it :(
anyway, I wrote him and thanked, of course, but also asked about it.
My X-chromosome has the most interesting matches on Gedmatch so I want to see it a lot :)
Oh ok I see. He must have forgotten it then, he has said he is overwhelmed with requests. Yes it would be interesting to see how your X chromosome came out, you have some East Asian on a few of your chromosomes. If you don't mind my asking who are you matching on your X? I find the X chromosome fascinating because of how much of it can get passed down unchanged from father to daughter. I have a chunk of East Asian on my X chromosome that I know came from my father's mother, along with a few small bits of East Asian on my chromosome painting. My Mom's X, and her chromosome painting have no East Asian on it.

My father's mother said she was Slovak/Rusyn. Her parents had both been from villages that had been located in the Kingdom of Hungary. Today it is known as Slovakia.

Thanks to all for posting their results and paintings. I enjoy seeing how one's chromosome painting will turn out with what they know about their ancestry.

lady
10-15-2013, 02:43 AM
If you don't mind my asking who are you matching on your X?

Thank you for your interest :)
So far, my best X-match is an English woman, I share 28cM block with her. My X-matches are for the most also mixed, so it is difficult to identify. Where it was shared totally around 50cM, I have seen Brits, Germans, French, Russians, Spanish/Portugese/Italians, Ashkenazi, of those who had clear ancestry. Mostly, my autosomal matches are more northern, I have a lot of Sweeds, Lithuanians and Finns there, but I miss them on my X, so it must come from paternal grandfather :)

I also find X fascinating. I was unlucky with no matches on my MtDNA, but more than enough of autosomal on GEDMatch. Strange, I didn't get as many on FTDNA, probably their algorithm is different...

Skywalker
10-17-2013, 04:15 PM
Thank you for your interest :)
So far, my best X-match is an English woman, I share 28cM block with her. My X-matches are for the most also mixed, so it is difficult to identify. Where it was shared totally around 50cM, I have seen Brits, Germans, French, Russians, Spanish/Portugese/Italians, Ashkenazi, of those who had clear ancestry. Mostly, my autosomal matches are more northern, I have a lot of Sweeds, Lithuanians and Finns there, but I miss them on my X, so it must come from paternal grandfather :)

I also find X fascinating. I was unlucky with no matches on my MtDNA, but more than enough of autosomal on GEDMatch. Strange, I didn't get as many on FTDNA, probably their algorithm is different...
Your welcome, and thank you for sharing further. Yes I too receive varied matches on my X, but I can usually figure out which side they are coming from. I am a mix of different European backgrounds. Yes I have many more matches on Gedmatch than FTDNA. I suspect that more people test at 23&me for the health information. I think however you might find more people at FTDNA willing to engage in finding your common ancestors.

Windischer
10-20-2013, 03:36 PM
My father's mother said she was Slovak/Rusyn. Her parents had both been from villages that had been located in the Kingdom of Hungary. Today it is known as Slovakia.

I think she meant Slovjak-Rusnak - that is, slovjak-speaking orthodox or byzantine catholic person (as opposed to a rusyn-speaking one). Slovjak is easy to be confused with slovak and at the moment it isnt widely recognized as a separate ethnicity; and rusnak is, again, often confused or mistranslated as rusyn. Slovjak and rusyn are linguistic categories, rusnak is a religious (denominational) one.

safinator
12-18-2013, 11:20 PM
http://i.imgur.com/MuiBnsG.png
http://i.imgur.com/ua8Roy0.png


I can only say it is
1) Western Euro plus MEditerranean well east of Italy and.or Jewish
of some sort
2) Possibly, less likely, former Yugoslavia

Jägerstaffel
12-18-2013, 11:23 PM
Most likely fit is 100% Europe (various subcontinents)

The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
most likely at the top
Italian= 0.449 Lithuani= 0.551 or
French= 0.627 Lithuani= 0.373 or
Irish= 0.333 Hungary= 0.667 or
French= 0.527 Belorus= 0.473 or
Spain= 0.446 Lithuani= 0.554 or
Spain= 0.348 Belorus= 0.652 or
Tuscan= 0.418 Lithuani= 0.582 or
Hungary= 0.885 Lithuani= 0.115 or
Irish= 0.709 Romania= 0.291

This looks German/Czech/Austrian, OR actually some sort of
combination averaging there, such as, but not limited to, any of the above.

Doug McDonald

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=41859&d=1387412688

orangepulp
12-23-2013, 01:38 PM
http://imageshack.com/a/img11/2272/x6tp.png
http://imageshack.com/a/img819/2953/toga.png
http://imageshack.com/a/img59/5584/85rz.png
http://imageshack.com/a/img853/1695/rc9h.png
http://imageshack.com/a/img845/3011/f0h7.png


Most likely fit is 87.0% (+- 0.4%) Mideast (all Caucasus Area)
and 5.6% (+- 0.9%) E. Asia (various subcontinents)
and 7.5% (+- 0.9%) Europe (various subcontinents)

The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
most likely at the top

Armenian= 0.872 Yakut= 0.055 Russian= 0.073 or
Armenian= 0.877 Yakut= 0.057 Finland= 0.066 or
Armenian= 0.874 Yakut= 0.062 Lithuania= 0.064 or
Armenian= 0.868 Yakut= 0.062 Poland= 0.070 or
Armenian= 0.867 Yakut= 0.062 Irish= 0.071 or
Armenian= 0.871 Yakut= 0.037 Chuvash= 0.092 or
Armenian= 0.868 Yakut= 0.061 Belorus= 0.070 or
Armenian= 0.863 Yakut= 0.063 Germany= 0.074 or
Armenian= 0.869 Buryat= 0.058 Russian= 0.073 or
Armenian= 0.869 Buryat= 0.039 Chuvash= 0.092

or, by a usually better custom fit:

Turkish 0.7068 Georgian 0.2932 or
Turkish 0.7151 Armenian 0.2849

Doug McDonald

paksaltopam
12-25-2013, 09:30 AM
Most likely fit is 75.4% (+- 11.4%) Europe (all Western Europe)
and 24.6% (+- 11.4%) Mideast (various subcontinents)



The following are possible population sets and their fractions,

most likely at the top

French= 0.801 Palestinia= 0.199 or

Spain= 0.884 Iranian= 0.116 or

Spain= 0.842 Adygei= 0.158 or

French= 0.820 Bedouin_No= 0.180 or

French= 0.662 Jewish= 0.338 or

Spain= 0.856 Turkish= 0.144 or

French= 0.707 Sephardic= 0.293 or

English= 0.592 Sephardic= 0.408 or

English= 0.541 Jewish= 0.459 or

French= 0.838 Egyptian= 0.162



a better custom fit is

Germany 0.4950 Sicily 0.5050 or

Germany 0.5871 Sephardic 0.4129

or better



Italian 0.4225 Hungary 0.4690 Bedouin_Nor 0.1085 or

Italian 0.4554 Hungary 0.4504 Egyptian 0.0943 or

Italian 0.4985 Hungary 0.4390 Bedouin_Sou 0.0625 or

Italian 0.3747 Germany 0.4585 Bedouin_Nor 0.1668 or

English 0.4261 Lithuania 0.1443 Sephardic 0.4295 or

Italian 0.6140 Poland 0.2707 Bedouin_Nor 0.1154 or

Italian 0.6422 Poland 0.2583 Egyptian 0.0995 or

English 0.3038 Hungary 0.3459 Sephardic 0.3503 or

Germany 0.5370 Sicily 0.4200 Bedouin_Sou 0.0430

Altaylardan Tunaya
12-19-2014, 03:01 PM
Most likely fit is 96.3% (+- 0.2%) Mideast (all Turkish)

and 3.7% (+- 0.2%) E. Asia (various subcontinents)



The following are possible population sets and their fractions,

most likely at the top

Turkish= 0.960 Malaysian= 0.040 or

Turkish= 0.964 Japanese= 0.036 or

Turkish= 0.961 Cambodian= 0.039 or

Turkish= 0.961 Tu= 0.039 or

Turkish= 0.962 Mongolian= 0.038 or

Turkish= 0.964 North_Han= 0.036 or

Turkish= 0.964 Lahu= 0.036 or

Turkish= 0.965 South_Han= 0.035 or

Turkish= 0.965 Dai= 0.035 or

Turkish= 0.965 Chukchi= 0.035



a custom fit gives

Bedouin_Sou 0.0349 Turkish 0.9160 Cambodian 0.0491 or

Turkish 0.9028 Makrani 0.0596 Cambodian 0.0376 or

Turkish 0.9067 Balochi 0.0563 Cambodian 0.0370 or

Turkish 0.9097 Brahui 0.0523 Cambodian 0.0380 or

Turkish 0.8976 Makrani 0.0690 North_Han 0.0334 or

Turkish 0.9018 Balochi 0.0656 North_Han 0.0327



which is saying Turkish, but apparently actually recently mixed;

however, it does not fit well using either Uygur or Hazara,

premixed Central Asian.

firemonkey
12-19-2014, 03:38 PM
N49571-autosomal-o-results.csv
Most likely fit is 89.8% (+- 9.6%) Europe (all Western Europe)
and 10.2% (+- 9.6%) Europe (various subcontinents)
which is 100% total Europe

The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
most likely at the top
Spain= 0.164 Irish= 0.836 or
French= 0.292 Irish= 0.708 or
Irish= 0.865 Tuscan= 0.135 or
English= 0.875 Russian= 0.125 or
Irish= 0.844 Italian= 0.156 or
English= 0.867 Finland= 0.133 or
French= 0.669 Finland= 0.331 or
English= 0.932 Chuvash= 0.068 or
Irish= 0.418 English= 0.582 or
Irish= 0.928 Sardinia= 0.072

Pop Finder (which is an early version of my program) got it right.

It is essentially English, but with some Continental European compensating for
a substantial Irish. Geno2 is over-interpreting the data. Yes, I see a small Native American
on chromosome 11 if I set my program to "speculative", which I consider to be "in the noise".

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/labile/N49571-BGA3.png


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/labile/N49571-BGA2.png


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/labile/N49571-BGA1.png

quaquaraqua
12-19-2014, 03:43 PM
I am half sicilian 2/4 bolognese 1/4 veneto 1/4 molisano

Please read the attached .rtf file for an explanation of how to

interpret all the data and plots. All results can be misleading without interpretation.

The automated computer results are as follows.



Most likely fit is 85.7% (+- 8.4%) Europe (all Southern Europe)

and 14.3% (+- 8.4%) Europe (various subcontinents)

which is 100% total Europe



The following are possible population sets and their fractions,

most likely at the top

Tuscan= 0.549 Sicily= 0.451 or

Sicily= 0.789 French= 0.211 or

Sicily= 0.838 Germany= 0.162 or

Sicily= 0.831 English= 0.169 or

Sicily= 0.859 Poland= 0.141 or

Sicily= 0.854 Irish= 0.146 or

Sicily= 0.713 Romania= 0.287 or

Sicily= 0.878 Lithuania= 0.122 or

Sicily= 0.807 Hungary= 0.193 or

Sicily= 0.655 Italian= 0.345



and that’s almost surely correct.



Doug McDonald

Thrax
12-19-2014, 03:53 PM
Most likely fit is 71.9% (+- 16.5%) Europe (various subcontinents)
and 28.1% (+- 16.5%) Mideast (various subcontinents)

The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
most likely at the top
Italian= 0.705 Georgian= 0.295 or
Tuscan= 0.826 Adygei= 0.174 or
Italian= 0.723 Armenian= 0.277 or
Tuscan= 0.841 Georgian= 0.159 or
Tuscan= 0.890 Iranian= 0.110 or
Tuscan= 0.846 Turkish= 0.154 or
Tuscan= 0.868 Armenian= 0.132 or
Spain= 0.633 Armenian= 0.367 or
English= 0.435 Cypriot= 0.565 or
Germany= 0.420 Cypriot= 0.580

which lools strange but is normal for Greeks.
A betyter cvustom fit is

Sicily 0.6873 Lithuania 0.1699 Georgian 0.1429
Sicily 0.4074 Romania 0.4542 Georgian 0.1384
Sicily 0.6609 Belorus 0.1915 Georgian 0.1476
Poland 0.1961 Sicily 0.6594 Georgian 0.1445
Tuscan 0.4519 Romania 0.3644 Georgian 0.1837

which does plot in Greece.

http://i61.tinypic.com/2e6h1me.png
http://i61.tinypic.com/2qlemxd.png
http://i61.tinypic.com/rwiat5.png
http://i59.tinypic.com/9tk3k7.png

SwampThing26
12-19-2014, 06:16 PM
Most likely fit is 100% Europe (various subcontinents)



The following are possible population sets and their fractions,

most likely at the top

Poland= 0.781 Sicily= 0.219 or

Lithuania= 0.684 Sicily= 0.316 or

Poland= 0.715 Tuscan= 0.285 or

Irish= 0.814 Sicily= 0.186 or

Lithuania= 0.601 Tuscan= 0.399 or

Poland= 0.590 Romania= 0.410 or

Irish= 0.756 Tuscan= 0.244 or

Belorus= 0.784 Sicily= 0.216 or

English= 0.454 Hungary= 0.546 or

Irish= 0.638 Romania= 0.362





a better custom fit to teh Euro is



English 0.5011 Spain 0.3583 Finland 0.1406 or

Irish 0.4532 Spain 0.4678 Finland 0.0790 or

English 0.5262 Italian 0.3079 Finland 0.1659 or

English 0.1997 French 0.6717 Finland 0.1286 or

Irish 0.5270 Russian 0.0276 Spain 0.4454 or

Irish 0.4751 Italian 0.4140 Finland 0.1110



and is VERY nonspecific .. like 23andme, it can’t be accurately split by My system

DanielJ1eH
12-19-2014, 06:48 PM
Why won't he do results for Europeans anymore?

Iloko
02-09-2015, 03:50 PM
Mine and my dad's,,never did my mom's because he said it wasn't interesting enough. Anyway here's mine:
...
this is best done with a custom fit. See .rtf file. Note that we have no
useful comparisons east of Malaysia (Melanesian/Papuan does not count).

Dai 0.3396 She 0.1579 Malaysian 0.5025 or
South_Han 0.2841 Dai 0.1875 Malaysian 0.5284 or
Dai 0.2645 She 0.1528 Cambodian 0.5827 or
Dai 0.3740 Malaysian 0.5030 Japanese 0.1230

which is where Filipinos always end up,.

It also has 1.3% European and 1.1% Mideast and 1.3% S. Asian. These
are not E. Asian, and are real ... but they are not significantly
different **from each other** and could be any or all of the three.

Doug McDonald
...
http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y315/shazou927/My%20Dr%20McDonald%20Results/autosomalBGA1_zps5c5e4485.png~original

----------
And my dad's..
Most likely fit is 92.0% (+- 0.3%) E. Asia (all Ethnic E. Asian)
and 5.6% (+- 0.2%) Mideast (various subcontinents)
and 2.5% (+- 0.3%) Oceania (all South Pacific)

The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
most likely at the top
Dai= 0.923 Jewish= 0.055 Papuan= 0.021 or
Dai= 0.917 Jewish= 0.055 Melanesian= 0.028 or
Dai= 0.924 Sephardic= 0.055 Papuan= 0.021 or
Dai= 0.918 Sephardic= 0.054 Melanesian= 0.028 or
Dai= 0.921 Turkish= 0.058 Papuan= 0.022 or
Dai= 0.915 Turkish= 0.057 Melanesian= 0.028 or
Dai= 0.921 Adygei= 0.057 Papuan= 0.021 or
Dai= 0.925 Cypriot= 0.054 Papuan= 0.021 or
Dai= 0.919 Cypriot= 0.053 Melanesian= 0.028 or
Dai= 0.915 Adygei= 0.057 Melanesian= 0.028

A better custom fit gives

Sephardic 0.0327 Melanesian 0.0135 Dai 0.6674 Malaysian 0.2864 or
Spain 0.0046 South_Han 0.2000 She 0.1446 Malaysian 0.6508 or
Sephardic 0.0041 South_Han 0.1993 She 0.1444 Malaysian 0.6522 or
Jewish 0.0033 South_Han 0.1977 She 0.1443 Malaysian 0.6546

which is about what I expect for Filipino. Note that the Euro/Jewish is VERY iffy ...
its too small to get accurately, so I only included the most common ones in the fit.
Filipino has to be fit by a complicated mix of distantly related peoples.

Doug McDonald
...
http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y315/shazou927/Dad%20Dr%20McDonald%20Results/dadchrompaint_zpsos0ulv09.png~original
http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y315/shazou927/Dad%20Dr%20McDonald%20Results/dadmap_zpsgymtvtyw.png~original

Highlands
02-09-2015, 04:07 PM
The standard analysis says 100% European, 100% Tuscan.

And that’s a good fit. However,

English 0.4634 Sephardic 0.5366 or
English 0.3213 Sicily 0.6787

also fits as well, so I can’t say which, though I think plain
Italian is correct.

http://i59.tinypic.com/4tojn4.png

http://i59.tinypic.com/2gvsjle.png

http://i62.tinypic.com/34hi4qo.png

http://i59.tinypic.com/2my0rvs.png
Is it normal for painting to show half European and Half Middle eastern?

Musso
02-10-2015, 12:30 PM
Does McDonald respond to requests anymore?

Iloko
02-10-2015, 08:16 PM
Does McDonald respond to requests anymore?
Only when he finds them interesting or rare.

Musso
02-11-2015, 03:57 AM
Only when he finds them interesting or rare.

I sent mine several months ago, but no response :(

jtoml3
02-11-2015, 04:48 AM
I sent mine in May last year and never heard anything back. Since then I've found what I've wanted to know so not concerned.

Musso
02-11-2015, 04:58 AM
I sent mine in May last year and never heard anything back. Since then I've found what I've wanted to know so not concerned.

What did you find and with what?

Anglojew
02-11-2015, 05:18 AM
Spain= 0.716 Adygei= 0.284 or

Germany= 0.460 Jewish= 0.540 or

English= 0.480 Jewish= 0.520 or

Poland= 0.413 Jewish= 0.587 or

Irish= 0.430 Jewish= 0.570 or

Hungary= 0.555 Jewish= 0.445 or

Lithuania= 0.363 Jewish= 0.637 or

Romania= 0.807 Jewish= 0.193 or

Romania= 0.840 Sephardic= 0.160 or

Hungary= 0.614 Sephardic= 0.386

jtoml3
02-11-2015, 07:09 AM
What did you find and with what?

I donated to Davidski to do the K8 test and asking him a few questions about my results. It lead me to the Jtest and EUtest's being the most accurate Oracle interpretation of my ancestry and Davidski gave me a few brief thoughts on some of my Eurogenes test results.

calxpal
10-29-2022, 06:45 AM
Omg I have to post here because I remember reading about people getting Doug McDonald results a while back and they look awesome! I wish I had done a DNA test at the time he did them for everyone, sadly I very highly doubt he'd give me an analysis so I'd probably be wasting my time asking him but I'm sure curious what his results would tell me compared to 23andme. Anyways thanks for sharing your results everyone :)