Post your Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 results

[lI]

Lithuanian average - results of my kits

Baltic 36.21 --- 36.19 --- 36.90
Eastern_Euro 21.18 --- 22.53 --- 26.98
North_Sea 20.15 --- 23.23 --- 20.19
Atlantic 15.72 --- 11.41 --- 10.95
West_Med 2.5 --- 1.48 --- 2.41
West_Asian 1.63 --- 2.78 --- 2.57
East_Med 0.61 --- 0 --- 0

Looks like me family is more Eastern European and less Atlantic.I'm less Atlantic too but I am also much less Eastern European, I've got elevated North Sea & West Med instead - fits well with all the other tests, I already knew I'm more South-Western than Lithuanian average.


<tbody>

LT_average
kamane1
kamane2
link



North_Sea
20.15
23.23
20.19
21.75


Atlantic
15.72
11.41
10.95
14.33


Baltic
36.21
36.19
36.9
36.12


Eastern_Euro
21.18
22.53
26.98
18.96


West_Med
2.5
1.48
2.41
4.38


West_Asian
1.63
2.78
2.57
1.9


East_Med
0.61
0
0
0.12

</tbody>



It's funny how Estonian is so interchangeable with Belarusian&Ukrainian in the oracle's predictions:


Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Lithuanian @ 3.835
2 Belorussian @ 6.867
3 Estonian @ 9.336
4 Russian @ 9.568
5 Ukrainian_Northeast @ 10.113
6 Ukrainian @ 10.563
7 Polish @ 11.024
8 Ukrainian_West @ 11.040
9 Kargopol_Russian @ 14.985
10 Erzya @ 16.127
165 iterations.



Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Lithuanian +50% Lithuanian @ 3.835
2 50% Belorussian +50% Lithuanian @ 4.930
3 50% Estonian +50% Lithuanian @ 4.931
4 50% Lithuanian +50% Ukrainian @ 5.445
5 50% Lithuanian +50% Ukrainian_West @ 5.486
6 50% Lithuanian +50% Russian @ 5.813
7 50% Lithuanian +50% Polish @ 5.873
8 50% Lithuanian +50% Ukrainian_Northeast @ 6.209
9 50% Belorussian +50% Estonian @ 6.453
10 50% Belorussian +50% Belorussian @ 6.867
13695 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Lithuanian +25% Lithuanian +25% Ukrainian_West @ 3.585
2 50% Lithuanian +25% Estonian +25% Lithuanian @ 3.586
3 50% Lithuanian +25% Lithuanian +25% Ukrainian @ 3.715
4 50% Lithuanian +25% Lithuanian +25% Lithuanian @ 3.835
5 50% Lithuanian +25% Lithuanian +25% Polish @ 4.025
6 50% Lithuanian +25% Belorussian +25% Lithuanian @ 4.225
7 50% Lithuanian +25% Belorussian +25% Estonian @ 4.235
8 50% Lithuanian +25% Lithuanian +25% Russian @ 4.407
9 50% Lithuanian +25% Estonian +25% Ukrainian_West @ 4.474
10 50% Lithuanian +25% Estonian +25% Russian @ 4.511
295043 iterations.



Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Ukrainian_West @ 3.585
2 Estonian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian @ 3.586
3 Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Ukrainian @ 3.715
4 Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian @ 3.835
5 Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Polish @ 4.025
6 Belorussian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian @ 4.225
7 Belorussian + Estonian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian @ 4.235
8 Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Russian @ 4.407
9 Estonian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Ukrainian_West @ 4.474
10 Estonian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Russian @ 4.511
11 Estonian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Ukrainian @ 4.565
12 Belorussian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Ukrainian_West @ 4.642
13 Estonian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Ukrainian_Northeast @ 4.649
14 Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Ukrainian_Northeast @ 4.652
15 Belorussian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Ukrainian @ 4.732
16 Estonian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Polish @ 4.756
17 Belorussian + Belorussian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian @ 4.930
18 Estonian + Estonian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian @ 4.931
19 Belorussian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Polish @ 5.069
20 Belorussian + Belorussian + Estonian + Lithuanian @ 5.130

[Mortimer]

How would he be related to you though? You are from Serbia, he's from England. It's unlikely.


Im related to most other romanis on 23andme from USA, England (Bosswell Gypsy Family) and Russia

[Patches]

Anybody else getting the Yoruban score on Oracle-x? Lol

Pct. Calc. Option 2

1 Southeast_English 52.09%
2 Orcadian 26.33%
3 North_Swedish 7.24%
4 Norwegian 6.85%
5 Sardinian 3.10%
6 Yoruban 1.10%
7 Dutch 1.10%
8 Kol 1.10%
9 Algerian 1.09%
10 Spanish_Galicia 0.00%

[Gaston]

Any map coming?


Anybody else getting the Yoruban score on Oracle-x? Lol

Pct. Calc. Option 2

1 Southeast_English 52.09%
2 Orcadian 26.33%
3 North_Swedish 7.24%
4 Norwegian 6.85%
5 Sardinian 3.10%
6 Yoruban 1.10%
7 Dutch 1.10%
8 Kol 1.10%
9 Algerian 1.09%
10 Spanish_Galicia 0.00%

You can get any exotic population, it's normal. However, usually, it's shows a trend which in your case is a clear African-shift. Could be old or recent, straight SSA or through Southern Europe or MENA people. Could be noise too, but I don't know you and your results so I can't tell.

[Gaston]

A few maps are available on Eurogenes' page.

[Black Wolf]

Okay well it seems that Northwest Europeans score highest in the North_Sea component which makes sense. It seems to be Orcadians, Norwegians, Swedes, West Scots (Scottish), Irish, Danish, English and Germans who score the highest in this component. Orcadians, Norwegians and Swedes take the top three spots.

[Jackson]

Okay well it seems that Northwest Europeans score highest in the North_Sea component which makes sense. It seems to be Orcadians, Norwegians, Swedes, West Scots (Scottish), Irish, Danish, English and Germans who score the highest in this component. Orcadians, Norwegians and Swedes take the top three spots.

It seems to be a broader based thing, like the North Sea component in K12, rather than the North Central Euro in EUtest V1, which is interesting.

[Black Wolf]

It seems to be a broader based thing, like the North Sea component in K12, rather than the North Central Euro in EUtest V1, which is interesting.

Yes I agree. I asked Polako what he thinks about the origins of these components and when they formed. He told me he does not know and would just be guessing. I still wonder about the origins of them though.

[Jackson]

Yes I agree. I asked Polako what he thinks about the origins of these components and when they formed. He told me he does not know and would just be guessing. I still wonder about the origins of them though.

The North Sea component matches pretty well the most lactose tolerant areas in Europe, almost to a tee:

http://i43.tinypic.com/2m41smo.gif
http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu7/Brodir93/NorthSea.png

[Jackson]

To me that suggests that if the unsuually high lactose tolerance in this area is due to particular practices around farming, that this area may have shared these common practices at some point in history. Just an idea, probably wrong but it did stick out.

[Black Wolf]

To me that suggests that if the unsuually high lactose tolerance in this area is due to particular practices around farming, that this area may have shared these common practices at some point in history. Just an idea, probably wrong but it did stick out.

Wow indeed that does stick out Sam! Great find!

[Atlantic Islander]

Lol.

[Black Wolf]

Lol.

?

[Jackson]

Lol.

Did i miss a joke somewhere?

[Atlantic Islander]

Did i miss a joke somewhere?

Maybe. :P

[Black Wolf]

Maybe. :P

Oh grow up over there island girl lol haha! :p

[Jackson]

I'm so confused! >.<

Oh wait i think i realised. I basically meant that if the North Sea component and Lactose Tolerance overlap like that, that this entire area may have been subject to particular farming practices in common - If those practices resulted in a higher lactose tolerance for whatever reason among those populations (i don't know enough about farming to say any more). It's probably just purely coincidental, but interesting.

[7eleven]

Does anyone know when the oracle is gonna be updated?

[Mazik]

They are like West Finnish. Maybe with a little bit of Sami.

Mazik knows them best.

I would rather like to see a bigger split than just "north_swedish". Because the difference between people from different parts of north Sweden is bigger than the average north Swede compared to the average south Swede.

The "north_Swedish" component by David could be said as, Swedish with elevated amount of Finnic-like ancestry (Sami/Finnish/Kven).
The amount is probably around 20% for the population average made by him. Biggest difference compared to "southwest_finnish" is usually the higher amount of "north_sea" or "med" admixture in north Swedes (depending on what calc) and the higher amount of Baltic admixture in southwest_Finns.

[Black Wolf]

I would rather like to see a bigger split than just "north_swedish". Because the difference between people from different parts of north Sweden is bigger than the average north Swede compared to the average south Swede.

The "north_Swedish" component by David could be said as, Swedish with elevated amount of Finnic-like ancestry (Sami/Finnish/Kven).
The amount is probably around 20% for the population average made by him. Biggest difference compared to "southwest_finnish" is usually the higher amount of "north_sea" or "med" admixture in north Swedes (depending on what calc) and the higher amount of Baltic admixture in southwest_Finns.

Here are my Oracle results from this newest Eurogenes calculator. I find it interesting that North_Swedish tends to show up pretty consistently. I am 25% Italian, 25% Finnish and 50% Irish/British by known ancestry. I think that both my Finnish and Irish/British ancestry are probably responsible for the North_Swedish presence in my Oracle results.

Oracle:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 31.1
2 Atlantic 20.43
3 Eastern_Euro 12.53
4 Baltic 10.15
5 East_Med 7.85
6 West_Med 7.55
7 West_Asian 4.79
8 Red_Sea 1.47
9 South_Asian 1.06
10 Siberian 1.01
11 Oceanian 0.96
12 Amerindian 0.91
13 Southeast_Asian 0.21


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 German 7.5
2 Dutch 9
3 North_Swedish 10.56
4 Norwegian 10.62
5 Danish 10.67
6 French 10.82
7 Southeast_English 10.88
8 Swedish 10.96
9 Southwest_English 11.02
10 Hungarian 11.17
11 Orcadian 11.64
12 Austrian 11.99
13 Irish 12.14
14 West_Scottish 12.19
15 Serbian 13.33
16 Southwest_Finnish 13.42
17 Finnish 15.46
18 Romanian 17.26
19 Spanish_Galicia 17.57
20 Spanish_Cataluna 18.31

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.9% Norwegian + 26.1% Ashkenazi @ 3.2
2 81% Norwegian + 19% Cyprian @ 3.32
3 78.3% North_Swedish + 21.7% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.32
4 70% North_Swedish + 30% Tuscan @ 3.42
5 78.3% Norwegian + 21.7% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.52
6 81.4% Norwegian + 18.6% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.52
7 83.1% Norwegian + 16.9% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.6
8 82.8% Norwegian + 17.2% Samaritan @ 3.62
9 81.5% Norwegian + 18.5% Syrian @ 3.67
10 83% Norwegian + 17% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.76
11 81.4% North_Swedish + 18.6% Cyprian @ 3.86
12 72.6% Norwegian + 27.4% Greek @ 3.86
13 82.6% Norwegian + 17.4% Palestinian @ 3.87
14 82.2% Norwegian + 17.8% Jordanian @ 3.88
15 53.8% Orcadian + 46.2% Serbian @ 3.96
16 74.5% North_Swedish + 25.5% Ashkenazi @ 4
17 80% Norwegian + 20% Turkish @ 4.01
18 82.8% Norwegian + 17.2% Assyrian @ 4.06
19 85.8% Dutch + 14.2% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.1
20 78.1% Swedish + 21.9% Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.24


Oracle-4 Ancestors:

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 German @ 8.611
2 Dutch @ 10.438
3 North_Swedish @ 12.216
4 French @ 12.291
5 Norwegian @ 12.389
6 Danish @ 12.424
7 Southeast_English @ 12.665
8 Swedish @ 12.726
9 Southwest_English @ 12.776
10 Hungarian @ 12.840
165 iterations.



Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Orcadian +50% Serbian @ 4.505
2 50% Norwegian +50% Serbian @ 5.102
3 50% Danish +50% Serbian @ 5.830
4 50% Dutch +50% Serbian @ 5.997
5 50% Serbian +50% Swedish @ 6.073
6 50% Serbian +50% West_Scottish @ 6.176
7 50% Orcadian +50% Romanian @ 6.190
8 50% French +50% North_Swedish @ 6.598
9 50% Norwegian +50% Romanian @ 6.675
10 50% Serbian +50% Southeast_English @ 6.786
13695 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% North_Swedish +25% Ashkenazi +25% Orcadian @ 2.804
2 50% North_Swedish +25% Ashkenazi +25% Danish @ 2.948
3 50% North_Swedish +25% Ashkenazi +25% West_Scottish @ 3.034
4 50% Norwegian +25% Ashkenazi +25% North_Swedish @ 3.130
5 50% North_Swedish +25% Ashkenazi +25% Southeast_English @ 3.131
6 50% North_Swedish +25% Ashkenazi +25% Irish @ 3.332
7 50% North_Swedish +25% Ashkenazi +25% Southwest_English @ 3.344
8 50% North_Swedish +25% Ashkenazi +25% Dutch @ 3.345
9 50% Orcadian +25% Ashkenazi +25% North_Swedish @ 3.356
10 50% Orcadian +25% Ashkenazi +25% Finnish @ 3.449
393701 iterations.



Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Ashkenazi + North_Swedish + North_Swedish + Orcadian @ 2.804
2 Ashkenazi + Danish + North_Swedish + Norwegian @ 2.925
3 Ashkenazi + Danish + North_Swedish + North_Swedish @ 2.948
4 Ashkenazi + North_Swedish + Norwegian + Orcadian @ 2.974
5 Ashkenazi + North_Swedish + North_Swedish + West_Scottish @ 3.034
6 Ashkenazi + North_Swedish + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 3.130
7 Ashkenazi + North_Swedish + North_Swedish + Southeast_English @ 3.131
8 Ashkenazi + Dutch + North_Swedish + Norwegian @ 3.152
9 Ashkenazi + North_Swedish + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 3.221
10 Ashkenazi + Dutch + North_Swedish + Orcadian @ 3.278
11 Ashkenazi + Danish + North_Swedish + Swedish @ 3.305
12 Ashkenazi + Irish + North_Swedish + North_Swedish @ 3.332
13 Ashkenazi + North_Swedish + Orcadian + Swedish @ 3.343
14 Ashkenazi + North_Swedish + North_Swedish + Southwest_English @ 3.344
15 Ashkenazi + North_Swedish + Norwegian + Southeast_English @ 3.344
16 Ashkenazi + Dutch + North_Swedish + North_Swedish @ 3.345
17 Ashkenazi + North_Swedish + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 3.356
18 Ashkenazi + Danish + North_Swedish + Orcadian @ 3.383
19 Ashkenazi + Finnish + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 3.449
20 North_Swedish + North_Swedish + Norwegian + Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.450


Oracle-X:

Pct. Calc. Option 2

0 Unable to determine 0.32%
1 Dutch 39.41%
2 Orcadian 25.36%
3 North_Swedish 10.86%
4 Jordanian 6.53%
5 Chuvash 5.61%
6 Lebanese_Druze 4.68%
7 East_Finnish 2.36%
8 Iranian 1.61%
9 French 1.05%
10 Papuan 0.76%

[Jackson]

How is the PCA going Graham?

[Mazik]

@Jaxman:

Maybe this plot on the EUtest populations could give you some clue, how "north_Swedish" is placed compared to your ancestral groups etc.

http://imageshack.us/a/img717/4008/pca12s.png

[Black Wolf]

@Jaxman:

Maybe this plot on the EUtest populations could give you some clue, how "north_Swedish" is placed compared to your ancestral groups etc.

http://imageshack.us/a/img717/4008/pca12s.png

Yes that looks like it makes sense. It looks like it is placed between Southwest_Finnish and British groups.

[Graham]

How is the PCA going Graham?

Not doing much, over the weekdays. Kinda busy. :P

[Hàkon]

Baltic 16.54%
Atlantic 16.38%
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West_Med 13,69%
West_Asian 13.19%
East_Med 12.96%
Eastern_Euro 12.17%
North_Sea 11.20%
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Siberian 1.36%
Red_Sea 1.20%
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Southeast_Asian 0.73%
South_Asian 0.46%
Oceanian 0.12%


Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle
Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1. Bulgarian 4.67
2. Romanian 7.35
3. Greek 7.74
4. Serbian 11.73
5. Tuscan 13.46
6. Ashkenazi 13.96
7. North_Italian 16.03
8. Austrian 17.32
9. Hungarian 18.49
10. Sephardic_Jewish 21.12
11. Spanish_Andalucia 22.02
12. Portuguese 22.03
13. Spanish_Extremadura 22.16
14. Spanish_Cataluna 22.33
15. Spanish_Galicia 22.35
16. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 22.54
17. Spanish_Murcia 22.55
18. Turkish 22.86
19. Spanish_Valencia 22.91
20. Ukrainian_West 23.05

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1. 86.7% Bulgarian + 13.3% Chechen @ 3.12
2. 92.3% Bulgarian + 7.7% Abhkasian @ 3.18
3. 91.8% Bulgarian + 8.2% Georgian @ 3.24
4. 89.9% Bulgarian + 10.1% Armenian @ 3.26
5. 91% Bulgarian + 9% Adygei @ 3.35
6. 91.5% Bulgarian + 8.5% North_Ossetian @ 3.36
7. 90.8% Bulgarian + 9.2% Balkar @ 3.37
8. 90.4% Bulgarian + 9.6% Turkish @ 3.38
9. 90.6% Bulgarian + 9.4% Armenian @ 3.4
10. 90.1% Bulgarian + 9.9% Kumyk @ 3.51
11. 91.2% Bulgarian + 8.8% Assyrian @ 3.61
12. 93% Bulgarian + 7% Iranian @ 3.69
13. 92% Bulgarian + 8% Chechen @ 3.71
14. 93.4% Bulgarian + 6.6% Tadjik @ 3.73
15. 93.3% Bulgarian + 6.7% Chechen @ 3.75
16. 92.3% Bulgarian + 7.7% Lezgin @ 3.87
17. 91.4% Bulgarian + 8.6% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.88
18. 91.2% Bulgarian + 8.8% Cyprian @ 3.94
19. 91.8% Bulgarian + 8.2% Nogay @ 3.98 (I am surprised to see that there could be no gay in me.)
20. 92.4% Bulgarian + 7.6% Tadjik @ 3.99


4-Ancestors Oracle
Using 1 population approximation:

1. Bulgarian @ 5.462
2. Romanian @ 8.656
3. Greek @ 8.901
4. Serbian @ 13.827
5. Tuscan @ 15.429
6. Ashkenazi @ 16.092
7. North_Italian @ 18.473
8. Austrian @ 20.324
9. Hungarian @ 21.718
10. Sephardic_Jewish @ 24.416
165 iterations.


Using 2 populations approximation:

1. 50% Bulgarian +50% Greek @ 5.220
2. 50% Greek +50% Romanian @ 5.426
3. 50% Bulgarian +50% Bulgarian @ 5.462
4. 50% Bulgarian +50% Romanian @ 6.952
5. 50% Greek +50% Serbian @ 7.340
6. 50% Cyprian +50% Polish @ 8.426
7. 50% Ashkenazi +50% Bulgarian @ 8.427
8. 50% Ashkenazi +50% Romanian @ 8.583
9. 50% Romanian +50% Romanian @ 8.656
10. 50% Bulgarian +50% Tuscan @ 8.788
13695 iterations.


Using 3 populations approximation:

1. 50% Bulgarian +25% Bulgarian +25% Greek @ 4.661
2. 50% Greek +25% Belorussian +25% Turkish @ 4.982
3. 50% Bulgarian +25% Austrian +25% Turkish @ 5.085
4. 50% Bulgarian +25% Greek +25% Romanian @ 5.087
5. 50% Greek +25% Polish +25% Turkish @ 5.113
6. 50% Greek +25% Lithuanian +25% Turkish @ 5.171
7. 50% Bulgarian +25% Bulgarian +25% Turkish @ 5.210
8. 50% Bulgarian +25% Greek +25% Greek @ 5.220
9. 50% Greek +25% Bulgarian +25% Bulgarian @ 5.220
10. 50% Greek +25% Bulgarian +25% Romanian @ 5.228
539626 iterations.


Using 4 populations approximation:

1. Armenian + Greek + Lithuanian + Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.060
2. Armenian + Greek + Southwest_French + Ukrainian_Northeast @ 4.455
3. Armenian + Greek + Lithuanian + Spanish_Valencia @ 4.476
4. Armenian + Greek + Lithuanian + Southwest_French @ 4.524
5. Armenian + Belorussian + Greek + Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.526
6. Greek + Kurdish + Lithuanian + Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.611
7. Armenian + Greek + Lithuanian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.625
8. Armenian + Greek + Spanish_Andalucia + Ukrainian_Northeast @ 4.647
9. Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Greek @ 4.661
10. Armenian + Belorussian + Greek + Southwest_French @ 4.710
11. Armenian + Bulgarian + Spanish_Andalucia + Ukrainian_Northeast @ 4.712
12. Armenian + Greek + Russian + Southwest_French @ 4.723
13. Armenian + Greek + Lithuanian + Spanish_Aragon @ 4.734
14. Greek + North_Italian + Turkish + Ukrainian_Northeast @ 4.775
15. Armenian + Greek + Spanish_Valencia + Ukrainian_Northeast @ 4.804
16. Armenian + Greek + Russian + Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.810
17. Greek + Lithuanian + Turkish + Tuscan @ 4.810
18. Greek + Chechen + Spanish_Andalucia + Ukrainian_Northeast @ 4.832
19. Armenian + Belorussian + Greek + Spanish_Valencia @ 4.846
20. Armenian + Bulga{rian + Russian + Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.873
1758120 iterations.

Oracle-X Population Fitting

Pct. Calc. Option 2

0. Unable to determine 0.01%
1. Bulgarian 59.20%
2. Chechen 10.54%
3. Greek 8.41%
4. Sardinian 5.78%
5. Belorussian 5.25%
6. French_Basque 4.46%
7. Austroasiatic_Ho 2.11%
8. Ukrainian_Northeast 2.10%
9. Abhkasian 1.09%
10. Turkish 1.05%

[Jackson]

Interesting, so it looks like you are basically Bulgarian with a pull to the east. That kind of fits with 23&me ancestry composition sort of?

[Hàkon]

Interesting, so it looks like you are basically Bulgarian with a pull to the east. That kind of fits with 23&me ancestry composition sort of?

Yes, I think it does.

[Graham]

Yes, I think it does.

You know how accurate the Oracle has been with us Europeans. If not accurate, it was like one or two countries off.

So your dna can't be far off that.

[Equilibrium]

You now officially belong to the Pontic Facade. :cool: Your touch of Siberian also qualifies you for the Turkic brotherhood. ;)

[Hàkon]

You know how accurate the Oracle has been with us Europeans. If not accurate, it was like one or two countries off.

So your dna can't be far off that.

Yes, besides, most admixture calculators I have run my data through have pointed in the same, or a similar, direction.


You now officially belong to the Pontic Facade. :cool: Your touch of Siberian also qualifies you for the Turkic brotherhood. ;)

Thank you, your words honor me; however, I wonder whether the Bulgarian community will accept me, as I have led an unbulgarian life for so long.

[bot]

Sexy 16.54%
Stud 16.38%
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Sultry 13,69%
Steamy 13.19%
Suave 12.96%
Sensual 12.17%
Hot 11.20%
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Irresistible 1.36%
Horny 1.20%
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Gorgeous 0.73%
Insatiable 0.46%
Picky 0.12%

The results are bad. I'm 100% on all and 200% horny for Fàkon.

Don't be jelly.

[scvpr]

Mine

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Sub-Saharan 26.19
2 Atlantic 18.82
3 Amerindian 12.65
4 West_Med 11.08
5 North_Sea 9.58
6 East_Med 4.38
7 Northeast_African 4.34
8 Red_Sea 3.69
9 Eastern_Euro 2.93
10 West_Asian 2.9
11 Baltic 2.46
12 South_Asian 0.98

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Mozabite_Berber 34.65
2 Algerian 35.83
3 Spanish_Extremadura 37.59
4 Portuguese 37.75
5 Spanish_Galicia 37.91
6 Moroccan 37.99
7 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 38.03
8 Spanish_Murcia 38.05
9 Spanish_Andalucia 38.69
10 Spanish_Cataluna 38.8
11 North_Italian 38.84
12 Spanish_Valencia 39.05
13 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 39.12
14 Spanish_Cantabria 39.16
15 Tuscan 39.41
16 Serbian 39.49
17 Romanian 39.53
18 French 39.68
19 Bulgarian 39.75
20 Southwest_French 40.12

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.9% Spanish_Extremadura + 31.1% Bantu_S.E. @ 16.07
2 69.4% Spanish_Extremadura + 30.6% Bantu_S.W. @ 16.1
3 68.6% Spanish_Murcia + 31.4% Bantu_S.E. @ 16.12
4 69.1% Spanish_Murcia + 30.9% Bantu_S.W. @ 16.15
5 67.6% Spanish_Extremadura + 32.4% Biaka_Pygmy @ 16.15
6 67.3% Spanish_Murcia + 32.7% Biaka_Pygmy @ 16.2
7 70.1% Spanish_Extremadura + 29.9% Mandenka @ 16.27
8 69.8% Spanish_Murcia + 30.2% Mandenka @ 16.3
9 67.9% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 32.1% Bantu_S.E. @ 16.38
10 68.7% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 31.3% Bantu_S.E. @ 16.4
11 66.7% Spanish_Valencia + 33.3% Biaka_Pygmy @ 16.42
12 69.1% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 30.9% Bantu_S.W. @ 16.42
13 66.6% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 33.4% Biaka_Pygmy @ 16.43
14 68.4% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 31.6% Bantu_S.W. @ 16.43
15 68.9% Portuguese + 31.1% Bantu_S.E. @ 16.45
16 68% Spanish_Valencia + 32% Bantu_S.E. @ 16.46
17 69.3% Portuguese + 30.7% Bantu_S.W. @ 16.47
18 65.7% Spanish_Extremadura + 34.3% Bantu_N.E. @ 16.49
19 67.4% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 32.6% Biaka_Pygmy @ 16.5
20 66.2% Spanish_Extremadura + 33.8% Luhya @ 16.51


Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Spanish_Extremadura @ 33.936
2 Portuguese @ 34.093
3 Spanish_Galicia @ 34.320
4 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 34.472
5 Spanish_Murcia @ 34.513
6 Mozabite_Berber @ 34.701
7 North_Italian @ 34.984
8 Spanish_Andalucia @ 35.093
9 Spanish_Cataluna @ 35.274
10 Spanish_Valencia @ 35.633
165 iterations.



Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Bantu_N.E. +50% Spanish_Aragon @ 18.750
2 50% Bantu_N.E. +50% Southwest_French @ 18.789
3 50% Bantu_N.E. +50% Spanish_Valencia @ 19.010
4 50% Bantu_N.E. +50% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 19.029
5 50% Luhya +50% Spanish_Aragon @ 19.128
6 50% Mbuti_Pygmy +50% Spanish_Aragon @ 19.140
7 50% Bantu_N.E. +50% Spanish_Cantabria @ 19.154
8 50% Mbuti_Pygmy +50% Southwest_French @ 19.159
9 50% Luhya +50% Southwest_French @ 19.171
10 50% Mbuti_Pygmy +50% Spanish_Valencia @ 19.378
13695 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha +25% North_Amerindian +25% Yoruban @ 8.678
2 50% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha +25% North_Amerindian +25% Yoruban @ 8.678
3 50% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha +25% Mandenka +25% North_Amerindian @ 8.847
4 50% Spanish_Aragon +25% North_Amerindian +25% Yoruban @ 8.922
5 50% Spanish_Aragon +25% North_Amerindian +25% Yoruban @ 8.922
6 50% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha +25% Bantu_S.W. +25% North_Amerindian @ 8.999
7 50% Spanish_Aragon +25% Mandenka +25% North_Amerindian @ 9.056
8 50% Spanish_Aragon +25% Bantu_S.W. +25% North_Amerindian @ 9.147
9 50% Spanish_Cantabria +25% North_Amerindian +25% Yoruban @ 9.167
10 50% Spanish_Cantabria +25% North_Amerindian +25% Yoruban @ 9.167
1149488 iterations.



Using 4 populations approximation:
1 North_Amerindian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Yoruban @ 8.678
2 North_Amerindian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Yoruban @ 8.678
3 French_Basque + North_Amerindian + Spanish_Extremadura + Yoruban @ 8.731
4 French_Basque + North_Amerindian + Spanish_Extremadura + Yoruban @ 8.731
5 North_Amerindian + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Yoruban @ 8.771
6 North_Amerindian + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Yoruban @ 8.771
7 French_Basque + North_Amerindian + Portuguese + Yoruban @ 8.843
8 French_Basque + North_Amerindian + Portuguese + Yoruban @ 8.843
9 Mandenka + North_Amerindian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 8.847
10 French_Basque + Mandenka + North_Amerindian + Spanish_Extremadura @ 8.851
11 North_Amerindian + Spanish_Cantabria + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Yoruban @ 8.858
12 North_Amerindian + Spanish_Cantabria + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Yoruban @ 8.858
13 French_Basque + North_Amerindian + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Yoruban @ 8.859
14 French_Basque + North_Amerindian + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Yoruban @ 8.859
15 North_Amerindian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Yoruban @ 8.887
16 North_Amerindian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Yoruban @ 8.887
17 North_Amerindian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Spanish_Valencia + Yoruban @ 8.908
18 North_Amerindian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Spanish_Valencia + Yoruban @ 8.908
19 French_Basque + North_Amerindian + Spanish_Galicia + Yoruban @ 8.922
20 French_Basque + North_Amerindian + Spanish_Galicia + Yoruban @ 8.922

Pct. Calc. Option 1

1 French_Basque 33.19%
2 Yoruban 26.54%
3 Pima 13.94%
4 West_Scottish 7.18%
5 Saudi 4.54%
6 Moroccan 3.99%
7 North_Italian 3.63%
8 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator 3.36%
9 Chechen 2.39%
10 Punjabi_Jat 1.24%

Pct. Calc. Option 2

0 Unable to determine 0.01%
1 North_Italian 36.47%
2 Yoruban 19.42%
3 Pima 10.79%
4 French_Basque 7.99%
5 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator 6.48%
6 Mayan 4.93%
7 Mandenka 4.32%
8 Southwest_French 3.83%
9 West_Scottish 3.66%
10 Yoruban 2.11%

[Armatus]

My results:


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 31.7
2 Atlantic 21.26
3 West_Med 15.58
4 Eastern_Euro 8.8
5 Baltic 8.52
6 West_Asian 6.82
7 East_Med 3.54
8 Red_Sea 3.23
9 Northeast_African 0.55

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 French 6.43
2 German 8.62
3 Southwest_English 9.28
4 Dutch 10.09
5 Southeast_English 11.04
6 Spanish_Galicia 12.35
7 Danish 12.38
8 Orcadian 12.81
9 Irish 12.88
10 West_Scottish 13.13
11 Norwegian 13.17
12 Portuguese 14.07
13 Swedish 14.1
14 Spanish_Cataluna 14.23
15 Hungarian 14.54
16 Austrian 15.2
17 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 15.4
18 North_Swedish 15.54
19 Serbian 15.63
20 Spanish_Extremadura 15.83

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 82.2% Dutch + 17.8% Sardinian @ 5.31
2 51.9% Spanish_Galicia + 48.1% Norwegian @ 5.33
3 77% French + 23% Norwegian @ 5.34
4 78.8% French + 21.2% Swedish @ 5.39
5 80.7% French + 19.3% North_Swedish @ 5.4
6 56.6% Dutch + 43.4% Spanish_Galicia @ 5.4
7 71.7% French + 28.3% Dutch @ 5.49
8 54% Spanish_Galicia + 46% Swedish @ 5.54
9 76.9% Norwegian + 23.1% Sardinian @ 5.65
10 66.9% Dutch + 33.1% North_Italian @ 5.72
11 80% French + 20% Orcadian @ 5.76
12 58.7% Norwegian + 41.3% North_Italian @ 5.78
13 87.8% French + 12.2% Finnish @ 5.78
14 69.6% French + 30.4% German @ 5.79
15 90.6% French + 9.4% Estonian @ 5.86
16 90.1% French + 9.9% East_Finnish @ 5.88
17 52% Norwegian + 48% Portuguese @ 5.9
18 72.2% Dutch + 27.8% Tuscan @ 5.91
19 63.4% German + 36.6% Spanish_Galicia @ 5.94
20 89.8% French + 10.2% Ukrainian @ 5.94

Using 1 population approximation:
1 French @ 7.558
2 German @ 9.677
3 Southwest_English @ 10.583
4 Dutch @ 11.391
5 Southeast_English @ 12.546
6 Danish @ 14.028
7 Spanish_Galicia @ 14.395
8 Orcadian @ 14.546
9 Irish @ 14.637
10 Norwegian @ 14.892
165 iterations.



Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Norwegian +50% Spanish_Galicia @ 6.216
2 50% Spanish_Galicia +50% Swedish @ 6.523
3 50% Dutch +50% Spanish_Galicia @ 6.536
4 50% Dutch +50% French @ 6.874
5 50% Norwegian +50% Portuguese @ 6.896
6 50% French +50% German @ 6.946
7 50% Portuguese +50% Swedish @ 7.101
8 50% Orcadian +50% Spanish_Galicia @ 7.105
9 50% North_Swedish +50% Spanish_Galicia @ 7.171
10 50% North_Italian +50% Norwegian @ 7.359
13695 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% French +25% French +25% Norwegian @ 6.139
2 50% Norwegian +25% Spanish_Galicia +25% Spanish_Galicia @ 6.216
3 50% Spanish_Galicia +25% Norwegian +25% Norwegian @ 6.216
4 50% French +25% French +25% Swedish @ 6.236
5 50% Spanish_Galicia +25% Dutch +25% Norwegian @ 6.262
6 50% Norwegian +25% North_Italian +25% Spanish_Galicia @ 6.274
7 50% Dutch +25% French +25% Spanish_Galicia @ 6.275
8 50% French +25% French +25% North_Swedish @ 6.290
9 50% Norwegian +25% French +25% North_Italian @ 6.320
10 50% Spanish_Galicia +25% Norwegian +25% Swedish @ 6.331
472878 iterations.



Using 4 populations approximation:
1 French + French + French + Norwegian @ 6.139
2 Norwegian + Norwegian + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Galicia @ 6.216
3 French + French + French + Swedish @ 6.236
4 Dutch + Norwegian + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Galicia @ 6.262
5 French + German + Norwegian + Spanish_Galicia @ 6.263
6 North_Italian + Norwegian + Norwegian + Spanish_Galicia @ 6.274
7 Dutch + Dutch + French + Spanish_Galicia @ 6.275
8 French + French + French + North_Swedish @ 6.290
9 Dutch + French + Norwegian + Spanish_Galicia @ 6.303
10 Dutch + French + North_Italian + Norwegian @ 6.307
11 French + North_Italian + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 6.320
12 Norwegian + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Galicia + Swedish @ 6.331
13 Dutch + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Galicia + Swedish @ 6.333
14 French + French + Norwegian + Spanish_Galicia @ 6.342
15 Dutch + French + French + French @ 6.375
16 French + French + Spanish_Galicia + Swedish @ 6.378
17 French + French + North_Swedish + Spanish_Galicia @ 6.413
18 Dutch + French + German + Spanish_Galicia @ 6.419
19 Dutch + French + Spanish_Galicia + Swedish @ 6.432
20 Dutch + North_Swedish + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Galicia @ 6.439

Pct. Calc. Option 1

1 Norwegian 38.47%
2 Orcadian 28.98%
3 Sardinian 17.49%
4 Chechen 8.59%
5 Spanish_Galicia 4.74%
6 Swedish 0.92%
7 Somali 0.81%
8 Moroccan 0.00%
9 French 0.00%
10 Chuvash

Pct. Calc. Option 2

0 Unable to determine 0.02%
1 French 50.86%
2 Norwegian 10.10%
3 North_Swedish 9.42%
4 Orcadian 7.32%
5 Swedish 5.90%
6 Lezgin 5.80%
7 Spanish_Galicia 4.16%
8 Sardinian 3.47%
9 Dutch 1.93%
10 Chuvash

[Humanophage]

1 Baltic 31.04%
2 Eastern_Euro 23.39%
3 North_Sea 18.66%
4 Atlantic 13.51%
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5 West_Med 4.76%
6 West_Asian 2.76%
7 South_Asian 2.23%
8 Amerindian 1.57%
9 Red_Sea 1.27%
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10 Siberian 0.28%
11 Oceanian 0.27%
12 Sub-Saharan 0.25%


Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle
Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Russian 3.84
2 Ukrainian_Northeast 4.97
3 Belorussian 5.14
4 Lithuanian 6.4
5 Ukrainian 7.46
6 Kargopol_Russian 7.82
7 Polish 8.13
8 Ukrainian_West 8.47
9 Erzya 8.74
10 Estonian 9.77
11 East_Finnish 12.83
12 Finnish 14.62
13 Southwest_Finnish 16.05
14 Hungarian 16.44
15 Austrian 18.28
16 Serbian 21.51
17 North_Swedish 22.64
18 Romanian 23.7
19 Bulgarian 25.63
20 German 25.67

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.9% Russian + 28.1% Lithuanian @ 3.17
2 68.5% Belorussian + 31.5% Erzya @ 3.61
3 76% Russian + 24% Belorussian @ 3.67
4 89.3% Russian + 10.7% Estonian @ 3.69
5 88.8% Russian + 11.2% Erzya @ 3.71
6 99.1% Russian + 0.9% Pima @ 3.71
7 99.1% Russian + 0.9% Mayan @ 3.72
8 56.9% Lithuanian + 43.1% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.72
9 99.3% Russian + 0.7% North_Amerindian @ 3.78
10 92.1% Russian + 7.9% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.8
11 99.4% Russian + 0.6% Chamar @ 3.82
12 99.4% Russian + 0.6% North_Kannadi @ 3.82
13 99.5% Russian + 0.5% Kol @ 3.83
14 99.5% Russian + 0.5% Piramalai @ 3.83
15 99.5% Russian + 0.5% Uttar_Pradesh @ 3.83
16 99.5% Russian + 0.5% Kanjar @ 3.83
17 99.6% Russian + 0.4% Dusadh @ 3.83
18 99.6% Russian + 0.4% Chenchu @ 3.83
19 99.6% Russian + 0.4% Austroasiatic_Ho @ 3.84
20 99.6% Russian + 0.4% Dharkar @ 3.84


4-Ancestors Oracle
Using 1 population approximation:

1 Russian @ 4.448
2 Ukrainian_Northeast @ 5.754
3 Belorussian @ 5.762
4 Lithuanian @ 7.051
5 Kargopol_Russian @ 8.568
6 Ukrainian @ 8.712
7 Polish @ 9.475
8 Erzya @ 9.680
9 Ukrainian_West @ 9.988
10 Estonian @ 11.346
165 iterations.


Using 2 populations approximation:

1 50% Lithuanian +50% Russian @ 3.927
2 50% Kargopol_Russian +50% Lithuanian @ 4.084
3 50% Belorussian +50% Russian @ 4.382
4 50% Erzya +50% Lithuanian @ 4.393
5 50% Russian +50% Russian @ 4.448
6 50% Belorussian +50% Erzya @ 4.585
7 50% Lithuanian +50% Ukrainian_Northeast @ 4.634
8 50% Russian +50% Ukrainian_Northeast @ 4.915
9 50% Belorussian +50% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.979
10 50% Belorussian +50% Ukrainian_Northeast @ 5.028
13695 iterations.


Using 3 populations approximation:

1 50% Russian +25% Erzya +25% Lithuanian @ 3.275
2 50% Lithuanian +25% Erzya +25% Russian @ 3.352
3 50% Lithuanian +25% Erzya +25% Ukrainian @ 3.383
4 50% Russian +25% Kargopol_Russian +25% Lithuanian @ 3.428
5 50% Lithuanian +25% Kargopol_Russian +25% Russian @ 3.469
6 50% Lithuanian +25% Erzya +25% Ukrainian_West @ 3.525
7 50% Russian +25% Lithuanian +25% Russian @ 3.573
8 50% Lithuanian +25% Erzya +25% Polish @ 3.580
9 50% Lithuanian +25% Erzya +25% Ukrainian_Northeast @ 3.655
10 50% Lithuanian +25% Kargopol_Russian +25% Ukrainian_Northeast @ 3.711
268459 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:

1 Erzya + Lithuanian + Russian + Russian @ 3.275
2 Belorussian + Erzya + Lithuanian + Russian @ 3.310
3 Erzya + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Russian @ 3.352
4 Erzya + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Ukrainian @ 3.383
5 Kargopol_Russian + Lithuanian + Russian + Russian @ 3.428
6 Belorussian + Erzya + Lithuanian + Ukrainian @ 3.456
7 Kargopol_Russian + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Russian @ 3.469
8 Erzya + Lithuanian + Russian + Ukrainian @ 3.470
9 Erzya + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Ukrainian_West @ 3.525
10 Erzya + Lithuanian + Russian + Ukrainian_Northeast @ 3.526
11 Lithuanian + Russian + Russian + Russian @ 3.573
12 Erzya + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Polish @ 3.580
13 Erzya + Lithuanian + Ukrainian + Ukrainian_Northeast @ 3.592
14 Belorussian + Erzya + Lithuanian + Ukrainian_West @ 3.611
15 Kargopol_Russian + Lithuanian + Russian + Ukrainian_Northeast @ 3.615
16 Belorussian + Erzya + Lithuanian + Ukrainian_Northeast @ 3.618
17 Erzya + Lithuanian + Russian + Ukrainian_West @ 3.625
18 Erzya + Lithuanian + Polish + Russian @ 3.637
19 Belorussian + Kargopol_Russian + Lithuanian + Russian @ 3.654
20 Erzya + Lithuanian + Lithuanian + Ukrainian_Northeast @ 3.655

1570436 iterations.

Oracle-X Population Fitting

Pct. Calc. Option 2

1 Russian 59.70%
2 Lithuanian 17.20%
3 Erzya 12.01%
4 Estonian 5.74%
5 Belorussian 3.13%
6 Mayan 1.11%
7 Chamar 1.10%
8 Kargopol_Russian 0.00%
9 Ukrainian_Northeast 0.00%
10 Ukrainian 0.00%

Grandmother 1 (Russian/Ukrainian):
1 Baltic 29.43
2 Eastern_Euro 20.81
3 North_Sea 19.49
4 Atlantic 15.18
5 West_Asian 6.47
6 West_Med 3.23
7 East_Med 2.92
8 South_Asian 1.36
9 Oceanian 0.74
10 Red_Sea 0.25
11 Sub-Saharan 0.12


1 Ukrainian_Northeast 2.23
2 Russian 3.63
3 Belorussian 4.89
4 Polish 5.43
5 Ukrainian 6.12
6 Ukrainian_West 6.43
7 Lithuanian 7.75
8 Kargopol_Russian 9.28
9 Estonian 9.53
10 Erzya 10.79
11 East_Finnish 12.77
12 Hungarian 13.43
13 Finnish 13.48
14 Southwest_Finnish 14.54
15 Austrian 14.99
16 Serbian 18.33
17 Romanian 20.32
18 North_Swedish 20.81
19 Bulgarian 22.38
20 German 22.87


0 Unable to determine 0.01%
1 Ukrainian_Northeast 48.24%
2 Russian 17.06%
3 Belorussian 8.67%
4 Orcadian 7.18%
5 Lithuanian 6.51%
6 Estonian 4.88%
7 Iranian 3.85%
8 Erzya 2.65%
9 Ukrainian_West 0.93%
10 Velamas 0.01%


Grandmother 2 (northwest Russian):
1 Baltic 34.67
2 Eastern_Euro 24.78
3 North_Sea 16.78
4 Atlantic 15.89
5 East_Med 2.99
6 West_Med 1.3
7 Red_Sea 1.28
8 Amerindian 0.94
9 South_Asian 0.64
10 Oceanian 0.54
11 Southeast_Asian 0.18
12 West_Asian 0.01


1 Lithuanian 5.33
2 Belorussian 5.64
3 Ukrainian_Northeast 7.87
4 Russian 8
5 Kargopol_Russian 10.6
6 Erzya 10.95
7 Polish 11.82
8 Estonian 11.85
9 Ukrainian 11.87
10 Ukrainian_West 12.74
11 East_Finnish 15.62
12 Finnish 17.55
13 Southwest_Finnish 18.76
14 Hungarian 20.04
15 Austrian 20.96
16 Serbian 24.6
17 North_Swedish 25.72
18 Romanian 26.64
19 Bulgarian 28.22
20 German 28.94



1 Lithuanian 76.72%
2 Erzya 7.50%
3 Belorussian 7.46%
4 Chuvash 3.07%
5 Kargopol_Russian 2.77%
6 Yemenite_Jewish 1.15%
7 Russian 0.86%
8 Ukrainian_Northeast 0.47%
9 Ukrainian 0.00%
10 Estonian 0.00%


I suppose I'm so Russian because I'm part of the sample. The actual uber-Russian grandmother ends up Lithuanian. My mother (the daughter of Grandmother 1) turns out Polish-Belarusian.

[d3cimat3d]

1 Baltic 31.04%
2 Eastern_Euro 23.39%
3 North_Sea 18.66%
4 Atlantic 13.51%
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5 West_Med 4.76%
6 West_Asian 2.76%
7 South_Asian 2.23%
8 Amerindian 1.57%
9 Red_Sea 1.27%
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10 Siberian 0.28%
11 Oceanian 0.27%
12 Sub-Saharan 0.25%



Wow, so much for the Cossacks being Turkic fantasy.

Mine:

1 West_Asian 26.57
2 Baltic 16.62
3 North_Sea 14.3
4 Eastern_Euro 12.05
5 Atlantic 10.57
6 East_Med 10.34
7 West_Med 5.83
8 Siberian 1.74
9 South_Asian 0.63
10 Red_Sea 0.58
11 Oceanian 0.49
12 Northeast_African 0.2
13 Sub-Saharan 0.07

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle
Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 15.68
2 Bulgarian 16.32
3 Serbian 18.08
4 Kumyk 19.23
5 Lezgin 20.33
6 Nogay 21
7 Hungarian 21.11
8 Greek 21.25
9 Austrian 21.66
10 Chechen 21.68
11 Balkar 22.46
12 Ukrainian_West 23.27
13 Adygei 23.35
14 Ashkenazi 23.78
15 Tadjik 23.8
16 Polish 23.82
17 Ukrainian_Northeast 23.95
18 Turkish 24.02
19 Ukrainian 24.42
20 North_Ossetian 24.95

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

1 58.3% Polish + 41.7% Abhkasian @ 2.18
2 57.7% Ukrainian + 42.3% Abhkasian @ 2.23
3 55.8% Polish + 44.2% Georgian @ 2.29
4 55.2% Ukrainian + 44.8% Georgian @ 2.3
5 58.9% Ukrainian_West + 41.1% Abhkasian @ 2.62
6 56.4% Ukrainian_West + 43.6% Georgian @ 2.78
7 50.1% Ukrainian_West + 49.9% Adygei @ 2.83
8 51.1% Adygei + 48.9% Ukrainian @ 2.83
9 50.5% Adygei + 49.5% Polish @ 2.98
10 54.6% Russian + 45.4% Georgian @ 3.23
11 55.5% Kumyk + 44.5% Polish @ 3.23
12 54.9% Kumyk + 45.1% Ukrainian_West @ 3.61
13 56.1% Kumyk + 43.9% Ukrainian @ 3.63
14 57.1% Russian + 42.9% Abhkasian @ 3.72
15 50.5% Ukrainian + 49.5% North_Ossetian @ 3.73
16 51.8% Belorussian + 48.2% Georgian @ 3.73
17 52.6% Hungarian + 47.4% Adygei @ 3.75
18 50.2% Georgian + 49.8% Estonian @ 3.79
19 51.5% Balkar + 48.5% Polish @ 3.81
20 51.8% Ukrainian_West + 48.2% North_Ossetian @ 3.85


4-Ancestors Oracle
Using 1 population approximation:

1 Romanian @ 18.564
2 Bulgarian @ 19.268
3 Serbian @ 21.397
4 Nogay @ 21.906
5 Kumyk @ 22.387
6 Lezgin @ 23.533
7 Hungarian @ 24.946
8 Greek @ 24.955
9 Chechen @ 25.167
10 Austrian @ 25.601
165 iterations.


Using 2 populations approximation:

1 50% Adygei +50% Ukrainian @ 3.869
2 50% Adygei +50% Ukrainian_West @ 3.902
3 50% Adygei +50% Polish @ 3.925
4 50% Georgian +50% Ukrainian @ 4.403
5 50% Estonian +50% Georgian @ 4.481
6 50% Belorussian +50% Georgian @ 4.566
7 50% Georgian +50% Polish @ 4.590
8 50% North_Ossetian +50% Ukrainian @ 4.607
9 50% North_Ossetian +50% Polish @ 4.839
10 50% Balkar +50% Polish @ 4.916


Using 3 populations approximation:

1 50% Ukrainian +25% Adygei +25% Georgian @ 3.256
2 50% Polish +25% Georgian +25% Kumyk @ 3.313
3 50% Polish +25% Balkar +25% Georgian @ 3.329
4 50% Ukrainian +25% Balkar +25% Georgian @ 3.383
5 50% Polish +25% Abhkasian +25% Kumyk @ 3.411
6 50% Polish +25% Adygei +25% Georgian @ 3.414
7 50% Ukrainian +25% Georgian +25% North_Ossetian @ 3.430
8 50% Adygei +25% Hungarian +25% Ukrainian @ 3.463
9 50% Georgian +25% Lithuanian +25% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.527
10 50% Georgian +25% Finnish +25% Lithuanian @ 3.542

Using 4 populations approximation:

1 Balkar + Georgian + Hungarian + Lithuanian @ 3.139
2 Adygei + Georgian + Polish + Ukrainian @ 3.230
3 Balkar + Georgian + Polish + Ukrainian @ 3.250
4 Adygei + Georgian + Ukrainian + Ukrainian @ 3.256
5 Georgian + Kumyk + Polish + Polish @ 3.313
6 Adygei + Georgian + Hungarian + Lithuanian @ 3.325
7 Balkar + Georgian + Polish + Polish @ 3.329
8 Georgian + Kumyk + Polish + Ukrainian @ 3.368
9 Balkar + Georgian + Ukrainian + Ukrainian @ 3.383
10 Abhkasian + Kumyk + Polish + Polish @ 3.411
11 Adygei + Georgian + Polish + Polish @ 3.414
12 Abhkasian + Kumyk + Polish + Ukrainian @ 3.419
13 Georgian + North_Ossetian + Ukrainian + Ukrainian @ 3.430
14 Balkar + Belorussian + Georgian + Hungarian @ 3.439
15 Bulgarian + Estonian + Lezgin + North_Ossetian @ 3.443
16 Adygei + Adygei + Hungarian + Ukrainian @ 3.463
17 Georgian + North_Ossetian + Polish + Ukrainian @ 3.469
18 Abhkasian + Hungarian + Kumyk + Lithuanian @ 3.478
19 Balkar + Georgian + Polish + Ukrainian_West @ 3.492
20 Adygei + Estonian + Georgian + Polish @ 3.522



Oracle-X Population Fitting

Pct. Calc. Option 2

1 Lezgin 36.31%
2 Lithuanian 25.40%
3 Sardinian 10.40%
4 North_Ossetian 7.75%
5 Tuscan 6.90%
6 Chechen 4.83%
7 Nogay 4.43%
8 Swedish 2.89%
9 Estonian 1.09%
10 Romanian 0.00%


I call myself, Caucaso-Polak. :cool:

[orangepulp]

^^

Your west Asian is high and you have Siberian. Where are you from?

[Argang]

I call myself, Caucaso-Polak. :cool:


I suppose there might be a little Pole in some of us. Further, surprisingly I'm closer to Estonians than Humanophage's very Baltic grandmother.

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle
Single Population Sharing:
1 Southwest_Finnish 5.27
2 Finnish 5.49
3 East_Finnish 6.88
4 Polish 9.48
5 Estonian 9.75
6 Ukrainian 10.34
7 Kargopol_Russian 10.88
8 Belorussian 11.14
9 Ukrainian_West 11.21
10 Russian 11.51
11 Ukrainian_Northeast 12.55
12 North_Swedish 12.81
13 Hungarian 13.09
14 Austrian 13.57
15 Lithuanian 14.1
16 Erzya 15.11
17 Swedish 16.73
18 German 16.95
19 Norwegian 17.86
20 Dutch 18.21

[d3cimat3d]

^^

Your west Asian is high and you have Siberian. Where are you from?

AWww come on orange you forgot about me :cry

Here is another one for the Turks, some guy who is my 3rd-4th cousin @ 23andme, he's 3/4 Romanian Tatar and 1/4 Crim Tatar:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatars_of_Romania

East_Med 17.92%
Eastern_Euro 15.49%
West_Asian 12.78%
Baltic 11.62%
West_Med 10.68%
North_Sea 10.67%
Atlantic 7.02%
Siberian 6.58%
Southeast_Asian 3.13%
South_Asian 2.49%
Amerindian 0.84%
Red_Sea 0.53%
Sub-Saharan 0.25%

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle
Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 13.43
2 Romanian 13.88
3 Greek 15.28
4 Serbian 15.63
5 Ashkenazi 16.65
6 Tuscan 20.7
7 Hungarian 21.09
8 Austrian 21.88
9 Nogay 22.76
10 Turkish 22.87
11 North_Italian 23.26
12 Ukrainian_West 24.19
13 Sephardic_Jewish 24.62
14 Ukrainian 24.75
15 Polish 25.11
16 Tadjik 25.17
17 Russian 25.6
18 Ukrainian_Northeast 25.74
19 Kargopol_Russian 25.93
20 Erzya 26.27

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

1 66.8% Greek + 33.2% Chuvash @ 6.56
2 64.5% Ashkenazi + 35.5% Chuvash @ 6.6
3 50.7% Cyprian + 49.3% Chuvash @ 7.71
4 51.5% Erzya + 48.5% Cyprian @ 7.99
5 51.9% Kargopol_Russian + 48.1% Cyprian @ 8.1
6 80.5% Bulgarian + 19.5% Shors @ 8.11
7 53.5% Turkish + 46.5% Kargopol_Russian @ 8.13
8 72% Bulgarian + 28% Uzbeki @ 8.18
9 53.9% Turkish + 46.1% Erzya @ 8.19
10 77.4% Greek + 22.6% Shors @ 8.22
11 54.1% Sephardic_Jewish + 45.9% Chuvash @ 8.41
12 81.8% Bulgarian + 18.2% Hakas @ 8.41
13 54.8% Turkish + 45.2% East_Finnish @ 8.42
14 50.7% East_Finnish + 49.3% Cyprian @ 8.44
15 55% Kargopol_Russian + 45% Assyrian @ 8.7
16 76.5% Bulgarian + 23.5% Hazara @ 8.74
17 53.8% East_Finnish + 46.2% Assyrian @ 8.83
18 63.7% Ashkenazi + 36.3% Erzya @ 8.85
19 79.1% Greek + 20.9% Hakas @ 8.87
20 71.8% Romanian + 28.2% Uzbeki @ 8.87


4-Ancestors Oracle
Using 1 population approximation:


1 Bulgarian @ 14.752
2 Romanian @ 15.389
3 Greek @ 16.934
4 Serbian @ 17.548
5 Ashkenazi @ 18.714
6 Tuscan @ 23.440
7 Hungarian @ 24.182
8 Austrian @ 25.084
9 Nogay @ 25.643
10 North_Italian @ 26.483
165 iterations.


Using 2 populations approximation:

1 50% Cyprian +50% Erzya @ 8.628
2 50% Chuvash +50% Cyprian @ 8.751
3 50% Cyprian +50% Kargopol_Russian @ 8.799
4 50% Kargopol_Russian +50% Turkish @ 9.329
5 50% Cyprian +50% East_Finnish @ 9.429
6 50% Erzya +50% Turkish @ 9.436
7 50% Erzya +50% Lebanese_Muslim @ 9.801
8 50% Kargopol_Russian +50% Lebanese_Muslim @ 9.820
9 50% Chuvash +50% Sephardic_Jewish @ 9.856
10 50% Assyrian +50% Kargopol_Russian @ 9.878
13695 iterations.


Using 3 populations approximation:

1 50% Bulgarian +25% Assyrian +25% Chuvash @ 6.142
2 50% Bulgarian +25% Armenian +25% Chuvash @ 6.436
3 50% Romanian +25% Assyrian +25% Chuvash @ 6.445
4 50% Bulgarian +25% Chuvash +25% Turkish @ 6.497
5 50% Bulgarian +25% Chuvash +25% Kurdish @ 6.719
6 50% Cyprian +25% Chuvash +25% Kargopol_Russian @ 6.758
7 50% Bulgarian +25% Chuvash +25% Cyprian @ 6.763
8 50% Cyprian +25% Chuvash +25% East_Finnish @ 6.772
9 50% Greek +25% Chuvash +25% Nogay @ 6.799
10 50% Cyprian +25% Chuvash +25% Ukrainian @ 6.810
667300 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:

1 Chuvash + Cyprian + Turkish + Ukrainian @ 5.544
2 Chuvash + Cyprian + Turkish + Ukrainian_West @ 5.870
3 Assyrian + Chuvash + Greek + Ukrainian @ 6.045
4 Chuvash + Cyprian + Polish + Turkish @ 6.062
5 Chuvash + Cyprian + Russian + Turkish @ 6.067
6 Bulgarian + Chuvash + Greek + Turkish @ 6.136
7 Assyrian + Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Chuvash @ 6.142
8 Chuvash + Greek + Romanian + Turkish @ 6.158
9 Assyrian + Chuvash + Greek + Hungarian @ 6.161
10 Assyrian + Chuvash + Greek + Ukrainian_West @ 6.161
11 Assyrian + Bulgarian + Chuvash + Romanian @ 6.214
12 Armenian + Ashkenazi + Chuvash + Ukrainian @ 6.221
13 Armenian + Chuvash + Greek + Ukrainian @ 6.223
14 Bulgarian + Cyprian + Erzya + Uzbeki @ 6.275
15 Cyprian + Erzya + Greek + Uzbeki @ 6.280
16 Armenian + Chuvash + Sephardic_Jewish + Ukrainian @ 6.293
17 Ashkenazi + Assyrian + Chuvash + Ukrainian @ 6.295
18 Assyrian + Chuvash + Greek + Serbian @ 6.302
19 Chuvash + Cyprian + Kargopol_Russian + Turkish @ 6.338
20 Armenian + Chuvash + Greek + Hungarian @ 6.341



Oracle-X Population Fitting

Pct. Calc. Option 2


1 Bulgarian 47.01%
2 Shors 12.80%
3 Makrani 10.28%
4 Lebanese_Druze 10.13%
5 Chuvash 8.86%
6 Erzya 3.74%
7 Ashkenazi 2.93%
8 Greek 2.06%
9 Hakas 1.10%
10 Cyprian 1.08%

[orangepulp]

Oh I remember you, you changed your username thats why I thought you were someone else!

Wow his Asian is really high.

[Black Wolf]

Your direct paternal lineage has given you away; we'll be taking you back as one of our own in preparation for battle.:p

But then again my dominant component in this analysis still is North_Sea...The barbarian in me is calling me back to the North lol! :cool:

[Sehnsucht]

My Mother

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 German 3.07
2 Dutch 4.96
3 Southwest_English 5.62
4 Southeast_English 5.92
5 Danish 6.68
6 Irish 7
7 West_Scottish 7.46
8 Orcadian 7.69
9 Norwegian 8.16
10 Swedish 8.67
11 French 9.12
12 North_Swedish 10.9
13 Hungarian 13.73
14 Austrian 13.84
15 Southwest_Finnish 14.67
16 Serbian 17.11
17 Spanish_Galicia 17.11
18 Spanish_Cataluna 17.19
19 Finnish 17.41
20 Portuguese 18.23



My mom has 3.07 genetic distance (is that what those numbers represent, genetic distance?) to the German reference population. I think that's kinda interesting that this calculator was able to pick up her German ancestry. Is 3.07 in Oracle close enough to be a good fit for a particular population?

Because my mom is closer to that German reference population than her mom, is that a possible sign that the German influence is coming from her father's side and that if he were to test with this calculator he would probably end up even closer to the Germans than my mom?

[Chad Rohlfsen]

On paper I'm about 1/2 British/Irish (Mostly English), 1/8 Danish, 1/8 Northern and Eastern German (including Pomerania), 1/4 French, Alsatian-German and other parts of Germany. FTDNA picks up some southern European including Spain, Romania and Italy. I've also got some Ashkenazi and Finnish according to 23andMe. So as far as what this means is beyond me. I have good matches with people from Norway, Poland and Russia on 23andMe as well. Is there something deeper in my ancestry or just noise?
Admix Results (sorted):


# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 36.88
2 Atlantic 26.25
3 Baltic 10.3
4 West_Med 10.14
5 Eastern_Euro 8.84
6 East_Med 5.8
7 Siberian 0.8
8 Oceanian 0.66
9 West_Asian 0.3
10 Red_Sea 0.03

Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Dutch 5.27
2 Southeast_English 5.35
3 Southwest_English 5.43
4 Danish 5.97
5 Orcadian 6.07
6 West_Scottish 6.73
7 Irish 6.88
8 German 7.06
9 Norwegian 7.55
10 Swedish 8.89
11 French 10.42
12 North_Swedish 11.3
13 Southwest_Finnish 16.28
14 Hungarian 16.99
15 Austrian 17.12
16 Spanish_Galicia 17.59
17 Spanish_Cataluna 17.68
18 Portuguese 18.65
19 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 19.11
20 Finnish 19.19

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 90.2% Orcadian + 9.8% Sardinian @ 3.48
2 82.3% Orcadian + 17.7% North_Italian @ 3.55
3 78.9% Orcadian + 21.1% Portuguese @ 3.6
4 78% Orcadian + 22% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.63
5 80.2% Orcadian + 19.8% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.65
6 78.1% Orcadian + 21.9% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.69
7 75% Norwegian + 25% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.75
8 81.9% Orcadian + 18.1% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.79
9 80.8% Orcadian + 19.2% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.8
10 85.2% Orcadian + 14.8% Tuscan @ 3.81
11 79.9% Orcadian + 20.1% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.84
12 83.3% Orcadian + 16.7% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.86
13 72.7% Norwegian + 27.3% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.89
14 67.5% Orcadian + 32.5% French @ 3.91
15 76.9% Norwegian + 23.1% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.96
16 77.7% Norwegian + 22.3% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.98
17 87.7% Orcadian + 12.3% Greek @ 4.08
18 83.3% Orcadian + 16.7% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.09
19 74.1% Norwegian + 25.9% Portuguese @ 4.09
20 75.8% Norwegian + 24.2% Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.09

Oracle-4

Admix Results (sorted):


# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 37.55
2 Atlantic 26.73
3 Baltic 10.49
4 West_Med 10.32
5 Eastern_Euro 9.00
6 East_Med 5.91


--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Dutch @ 6.334
2 Southeast_English @ 6.375
3 Southwest_English @ 6.531
4 Danish @ 6.936
5 Orcadian @ 6.961
6 West_Scottish @ 7.743
7 Irish @ 7.958
8 German @ 8.761
9 Norwegian @ 8.808
10 Swedish @ 10.330
165 iterations.



Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Orcadian +50% Southwest_English @ 5.716
2 50% Dutch +50% Southeast_English @ 5.742
3 50% Dutch +50% Southwest_English @ 5.772
4 50% Norwegian +50% Southwest_English @ 5.889
5 50% Orcadian +50% Southeast_English @ 5.909
6 50% French +50% Orcadian @ 5.913
7 50% Norwegian +50% Southeast_English @ 6.050
8 50% French +50% Norwegian @ 6.057
9 50% Danish +50% Southwest_English @ 6.200
10 50% Dutch +50% Orcadian @ 6.223
13695 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Orcadian +25% Norwegian +25% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.450
2 50% Orcadian +25% Spanish_Cataluna +25% Swedish @ 4.525
3 50% Orcadian +25% Norwegian +25% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.547
4 50% Norwegian +25% Orcadian +25% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.570
5 50% Orcadian +25% Spanish_Murcia +25% Swedish @ 4.577
6 50% Orcadian +25% Norwegian +25% Portuguese @ 4.578
7 50% Norwegian +25% Orcadian +25% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.607
8 50% Orcadian +25% Portuguese +25% Swedish @ 4.645
9 50% Orcadian +25% Orcadian +25% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.665
10 50% Orcadian +25% Norwegian +25% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.689
338310 iterations.



Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Norwegian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.450
2 Orcadian + Orcadian + Spanish_Cataluna + Swedish @ 4.525
3 Norwegian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.547
4 Norwegian + Norwegian + Orcadian + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.570
5 Orcadian + Orcadian + Spanish_Murcia + Swedish @ 4.577
6 Norwegian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Portuguese @ 4.578
7 Norwegian + Norwegian + Orcadian + Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.607
8 Orcadian + Orcadian + Portuguese + Swedish @ 4.645
9 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.665
10 Norwegian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Spanish_Galicia @ 4.689
11 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Spanish_Galicia @ 4.724
12 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Portuguese @ 4.725
13 Norwegian + Orcadian + Spanish_Murcia + Swedish @ 4.728
14 Norwegian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.768
15 Orcadian + Orcadian + Spanish_Galicia + Swedish @ 4.782
16 Norwegian + Norwegian + Orcadian + Portuguese @ 4.793
17 Norwegian + Orcadian + Spanish_Cataluna + Swedish @ 4.806
18 Norwegian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.828
19 Orcadian + Orcadian + Spanish_Extremadura + Swedish @ 4.858
20 Orcadian + Orcadian + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Swedish @ 4.865


Oracle-X
Pct. Calc. Option 2


0 Unable to determine 0.01%
1 Dutch 45.74%
2 Orcadian 29.40%
3 Norwegian 7.31%
4 Algerian 6.51%
5 Spanish_Murcia 5.22%
6 Portuguese 4.57%
7 Mozabite_Berber 1.04%
8 French 0.21%
9 Spanish_Cataluna 0.00%
10 Tuscan 0.00%

[Jackson]

My mom has 3.07 genetic distance (is that what those numbers represent, genetic distance?) to the German reference population. I think that's kinda interesting that this calculator was able to pick up her German ancestry. Is 3.07 in Oracle close enough to be a good fit for a particular population?

Because my mom is closer to that German reference population than her mom, is that a possible sign that the German influence is coming from her father's side and that if he were to test with this calculator he would probably end up even closer to the Germans than my mom?

Logically speaking that is most likely, although there is a fair bit of variation within families. That would suggest her father is closer (or at least as close) to the German reference population than she is. Certainly 3.07 is a pretty good match, given that the average is the average, rather than 'typical' So the average is made up of lots of different groups that are slightly different to each other, but each group fits quite closely to the average.

[Black Wolf]

Polako let me know his thoughts last night on the origins of the North_Sea component from this calculator. Here is what he said below when I asked him about it.

''I think the North Sea component is of very diverse origins and includes both Mesolithic and Neolithic admixture from North-Central and Northwest Europe. Various late Indo-European groups were probably responsible for its expansion across Europe, including Germanics.''

I then asked him if an origin in the areas of Frisia, Northern Germany or Denmark seem likely and he said.

''Yes, somewhere in that general area. It'll be interesting to see how the German and Danish Single Grave samples from The Rise project turn out in terms of genome-wide affinities. I expect them to be North Sea-like, or at least carrying a major component that contributed to the modern North Sea cluster.''

[Chad Rohlfsen]

How can I join the taxonomy group to get classified? It says I don't have permission to view the threads. Thanks!

[Sea Warrior]

Hey Chad,

I believe you have to have a minimum number of post before you are allowed to view areas that are for "established members". I don't know what the post number is, but on other forums I believe it was around 15. Maybe someone else can chime in with the exact requirements.

[Anglojew]

Population
North_Sea 22.23%
Atlantic 19.54%
Baltic 6.94%
Eastern_Euro 6.61%
West_Med 12.61%
West_Asian 11.06%
East_Med 13.17%
Red_Sea 4.53%
South_Asian 1.29%
Southeast_Asian 0.88%
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 1.14%
Sub-Saharan -
Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Serbian @ 11.698
2 Romanian @ 12.499
3 North_Italian @ 12.648
4 French @ 13.292
5 Tuscan @ 13.808
6 Spanish_Galicia @ 14.689
7 Bulgarian @ 14.736
8 Portuguese @ 15.018
9 Spanish_Extremadura @ 15.859
10 Spanish_Cataluna @ 16.075

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Armenian + French + North_Swedish + Spanish_Extremadura @ 1.957
2 Assyrian + Dutch + French + Spanish_Galicia @ 2.221
3 Armenian + French + North_Swedish + Spanish_Murcia @ 2.241
4 Armenian + French + North_Swedish + Portuguese @ 2.265
5 Armenian + French + Spanish_Extremadura + Swedish @ 2.288
6 Assyrian + French + Norwegian + Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.323
7 Armenian + French + Norwegian + Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.323
8 Armenian + French + North_Swedish + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.329
9 Assyrian + French + Spanish_Extremadura + Swedish @ 2.389
10 Kurdish + Norwegian + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Galicia @ 2.394
11 Assyrian + French + North_Swedish + Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.398
12 Assyrian + French + Norwegian + Portuguese @ 2.407
13 Kurdish + Portuguese + Spanish_Galicia + Swedish @ 2.408
14 Kurdish + Norwegian + Portuguese + Spanish_Galicia @ 2.424
15 Assyrian + French + French + German @ 2.426
16 Kurdish + Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Galicia + Swedish @ 2.430
17 Kurdish + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Galicia + Swedish @ 2.432
18 Dutch + French + Kurdish + Spanish_Galicia @ 2.444
19 Assyrian + Dutch + French + Portuguese @ 2.448
20 Assyrian + French + Norwegian + Spanish_Galicia @ 2.448

Interesting I'm 1/4 Assyrian, Armenian, Kurdish on this one

[Patches]

Chromosome View:
http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/p535/PureEvil91/177e808f-bc13-4711-846e-88c5a831c06e_zps4a0fafd0.jpg (http://s1154.photobucket.com/user/PureEvil91/media/177e808f-bc13-4711-846e-88c5a831c06e_zps4a0fafd0.jpg.html)

[Damião de Góis]

This run is really convinced i'm spanish...

http://oi39.tinypic.com/2s0ej6d.jpg

http://oi43.tinypic.com/ckieh.jpg

http://oi43.tinypic.com/5cyphz.jpg

[Atlantic Islander]

This run is really convinced i'm spanish...

http://oi39.tinypic.com/2s0ej6d.jpg

http://oi43.tinypic.com/ckieh.jpg

http://oi43.tinypic.com/5cyphz.jpg

For comparing our Spanishness ;)

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Portuguese +50% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.487
2 50% Spanish_Murcia +50% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.723
3 50% Spanish_Extremadura +50% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.837
4 50% Spanish_Galicia +50% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.838
5 50% Portuguese +50% Spanish_Extremadura @ 5.027
6 50% Spanish_Cataluna +50% Spanish_Murcia @ 5.088
7 50% Portuguese +50% Portuguese @ 5.236
8 50% Spanish_Cataluna +50% Spanish_Extremadura @ 5.253
9 50% Spanish_Extremadura +50% Spanish_Extremadura @ 5.293
10 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +50% Spanish_Murcia @ 5.306
13695 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Spanish_Murcia +25% Spanish_Galicia +25% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.431
2 50% Spanish_Murcia +25% Portuguese +25% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.477
3 50% Portuguese +25% Spanish_Murcia +25% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.487
4 50% Spanish_Murcia +25% Portuguese +25% Portuguese @ 4.487
5 50% Spanish_Murcia +25% Portuguese +25% Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.599
6 50% Spanish_Murcia +25% Portuguese +25% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.601
7 50% Spanish_Murcia +25% Spanish_Extremadura +25% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.626
8 50% Spanish_Murcia +25% Portuguese +25% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.684
9 50% Portuguese +25% Spanish_Extremadura +25% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.718
10 50% Spanish_Murcia +25% Spanish_Murcia +25% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.723
441477 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.431
2 Portuguese + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.477
3 Portuguese + Portuguese + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.487
4 Portuguese + Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.599
5 Portuguese + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.601
6 Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.626
7 Portuguese + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.684
8 Portuguese + Portuguese + Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.718
9 Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.723
10 Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.734
11 Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.738
12 Portuguese + Portuguese + Portuguese + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.754
13 Portuguese + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.803
14 Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.805
15 Portuguese + Portuguese + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.811
16 Portuguese + Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.812
17 Portuguese + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.817
18 Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.832
19 Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.837
20 Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.838
1623776 iterations.

[Anglojew]

For comparing our Spanishness ;)

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Portuguese +50% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.487
2 50% Spanish_Murcia +50% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.723
3 50% Spanish_Extremadura +50% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.837
4 50% Spanish_Galicia +50% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.838
5 50% Portuguese +50% Spanish_Extremadura @ 5.027
6 50% Spanish_Cataluna +50% Spanish_Murcia @ 5.088
7 50% Portuguese +50% Portuguese @ 5.236
8 50% Spanish_Cataluna +50% Spanish_Extremadura @ 5.253
9 50% Spanish_Extremadura +50% Spanish_Extremadura @ 5.293
10 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +50% Spanish_Murcia @ 5.306
13695 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Spanish_Murcia +25% Spanish_Galicia +25% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.431
2 50% Spanish_Murcia +25% Portuguese +25% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.477
3 50% Portuguese +25% Spanish_Murcia +25% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.487
4 50% Spanish_Murcia +25% Portuguese +25% Portuguese @ 4.487
5 50% Spanish_Murcia +25% Portuguese +25% Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.599
6 50% Spanish_Murcia +25% Portuguese +25% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.601
7 50% Spanish_Murcia +25% Spanish_Extremadura +25% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.626
8 50% Spanish_Murcia +25% Portuguese +25% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.684
9 50% Portuguese +25% Spanish_Extremadura +25% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.718
10 50% Spanish_Murcia +25% Spanish_Murcia +25% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.723
441477 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.431
2 Portuguese + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.477
3 Portuguese + Portuguese + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.487
4 Portuguese + Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.599
5 Portuguese + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.601
6 Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.626
7 Portuguese + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.684
8 Portuguese + Portuguese + Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.718
9 Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.723
10 Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.734
11 Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.738
12 Portuguese + Portuguese + Portuguese + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.754
13 Portuguese + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.803
14 Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.805
15 Portuguese + Portuguese + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.811
16 Portuguese + Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.812
17 Portuguese + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.817
18 Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.832
19 Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.837
20 Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.838
1623776 iterations.

1 Armenian + French + North_Swedish + Spanish_Extremadura @ 1.957
2 Assyrian + Dutch + French + Spanish_Galicia @ 2.221
3 Armenian + French + North_Swedish + Spanish_Murcia @ 2.241

[Atlantic Islander]

1 Armenian + French + North_Swedish + Spanish_Extremadura @ 1.957
2 Assyrian + Dutch + French + Spanish_Galicia @ 2.221
3 Armenian + French + North_Swedish + Spanish_Murcia @ 2.241

Your distances are pretty good.

[Black Wolf]

Population
North_Sea 22.23%
Atlantic 19.54%
Baltic 6.94%
Eastern_Euro 6.61%
West_Med 12.61%
West_Asian 11.06%
East_Med 13.17%
Red_Sea 4.53%
South_Asian 1.29%
Southeast_Asian 0.88%
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 1.14%
Sub-Saharan -
Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Serbian @ 11.698
2 Romanian @ 12.499
3 North_Italian @ 12.648
4 French @ 13.292
5 Tuscan @ 13.808
6 Spanish_Galicia @ 14.689
7 Bulgarian @ 14.736
8 Portuguese @ 15.018
9 Spanish_Extremadura @ 15.859
10 Spanish_Cataluna @ 16.075

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Armenian + French + North_Swedish + Spanish_Extremadura @ 1.957
2 Assyrian + Dutch + French + Spanish_Galicia @ 2.221
3 Armenian + French + North_Swedish + Spanish_Murcia @ 2.241
4 Armenian + French + North_Swedish + Portuguese @ 2.265
5 Armenian + French + Spanish_Extremadura + Swedish @ 2.288
6 Assyrian + French + Norwegian + Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.323
7 Armenian + French + Norwegian + Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.323
8 Armenian + French + North_Swedish + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.329
9 Assyrian + French + Spanish_Extremadura + Swedish @ 2.389
10 Kurdish + Norwegian + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Galicia @ 2.394
11 Assyrian + French + North_Swedish + Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.398
12 Assyrian + French + Norwegian + Portuguese @ 2.407
13 Kurdish + Portuguese + Spanish_Galicia + Swedish @ 2.408
14 Kurdish + Norwegian + Portuguese + Spanish_Galicia @ 2.424
15 Assyrian + French + French + German @ 2.426
16 Kurdish + Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Galicia + Swedish @ 2.430
17 Kurdish + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Galicia + Swedish @ 2.432
18 Dutch + French + Kurdish + Spanish_Galicia @ 2.444
19 Assyrian + Dutch + French + Portuguese @ 2.448
20 Assyrian + French + Norwegian + Spanish_Galicia @ 2.448

Interesting I'm 1/4 Assyrian, Armenian, Kurdish on this one

And you are half Ashkenazi Jewish?

[Damião de Góis]

For comparing our Spanishness ;)


I've noticed your "Spain" is also lower than mine on 23andme on Ancestry Finder, 0.5% against 1.4%. Could it be the reason?
In any case my surnames are all strictly portuguese, or galician at most.

[Anglojew]

Your distances are pretty good.

Thanks, I can't work out if it's from my British side or Jewish side or both (since I have Sephardi ancestry). I need to get my parents tested.

[Anglojew]

And you are half Ashkenazi Jewish?

I think I'm technically 1/8th Sephadi but yeah I just say Ashkenazi usually.

[Black Wolf]

I think I'm technically 1/8th Sephadi but yeah I just say Ashkenazi usually.

Strange your results I thought you would score more East_Med...You don't even get any Ashkenazi as your top scores in Orcle or Oracle-4.

[Atlantic Islander]

I've noticed your "Spain" is also lower than mine on 23andme on Ancestry Finder, 0.5% against 1.4%. Could it be the reason?
In any case my surnames are all strictly portuguese, or galician at most.

Could be because I'm half Azorean, there was little interaction with Spaniards. Idk.

We should check Kadu's percentage though.

[amerinese]

So when is Polako or the dudes at Gedmatch going to update the reference populations? I re-ran my results, and they look exactly the same.

[Black Wolf]

Well Spaniards and Portuguese live right next door to each other so it should not be that much of a surprise if you get Spanish scores. After all you are both Iberians.

[Atlantic Islander]

So when is Polako or the dudes at Gedmatch going to update the reference populations? I re-ran my results, and they look exactly the same.

Ikr? I wonder what's taking so long.

[Damião de Góis]

Could be because I'm half Azorean, there was little interaction with Spaniards. Idk.

Azoreans came from here, so it should be the same. In fact my highest match on 23andme is azorean :p

Half... i keep forgeting that. Anyway, we need the results of more portuguese members here, it would be nice to try see some regional patterns.

[Atlantic Islander]

Well Spaniards and Portuguese live right next door to each other so it should not be that much of a surprise if you get Spanish scores. After all you are both Iberians.

We already know that. We are discussing why our gedmatch distance scores and 23andMe percentage of Spanish matches are different.

[Atlantic Islander]

Azoreans came from here, so it should be the same. In fact my highest match on 23andme is azorean :p

Half... i keep forgeting that. Anyway, we need the results of more portuguese members here, it would be nice to try see some regional patterns.

Idk then :P

Here's a relative match that is just Azorean:

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% German +50% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.180
2 50% German +50% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.184
3 50% German +50% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.186
4 50% German +50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.252
5 50% German +50% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.558
6 50% German +50% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.655
7 50% Dutch +50% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.770
8 50% German +50% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.837
9 50% German +50% Portuguese @ 4.132
10 50% German +50% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.152
13695 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Spanish_Extremadura +25% Austrian +25% Irish @ 1.878
2 50% Spanish_Extremadura +25% Austrian +25% West_Scottish @ 1.946
3 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Austrian +25% Danish @ 2.038
4 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Austrian +25% West_Scottish @ 2.038
5 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Austrian +25% Southeast_English @ 2.065
6 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Austrian +25% Irish @ 2.107
7 50% Spanish_Extremadura +25% Austrian +25% Danish @ 2.203
8 50% Spanish_Murcia +25% Austrian +25% Irish @ 2.230
9 50% Spanish_Murcia +25% Austrian +25% West_Scottish @ 2.259
10 50% Spanish_Extremadura +25% Austrian +25% Southeast_English @ 2.295
284195 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Austrian + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Extremadura + West_Scottish @ 1.762
2 Austrian + Irish + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Extremadura @ 1.765
3 Austrian + Irish + Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Extremadura @ 1.878
4 Austrian + Danish + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Extremadura @ 1.907
5 Austrian + Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Extremadura + West_Scottish @ 1.946
6 Austrian + Irish + Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Murcia @ 1.952
7 Austrian + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish @ 1.959
8 Austrian + Southeast_English + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Extremadura @ 1.974
9 Austrian + Irish + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Murcia @ 1.979
10 Austrian + Irish + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Extremadura @ 1.991
11 Austrian + Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish @ 2.001
12 Austrian + Danish + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.038
13 Austrian + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + West_Scottish @ 2.038
14 Austrian + Danish + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Murcia @ 2.051
15 Austrian + Southeast_English + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.065
16 Austrian + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Extremadura + West_Scottish @ 2.069
17 Austrian + Irish + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.080
18 Hungarian + Irish + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.092
19 Austrian + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Valencia + West_Scottish @ 2.106
20 Austrian + Irish + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.107
731849 iterations.

Spanish match Percentage on 23andMe is 1.1%

[Elms]

Oracle 4:
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 41.69
2 West_Asian 36.34
3 Red_Sea 7.16
4 West_Med 5.70
5 Eastern_Euro 3.41
6 North_Sea 2.99
7 South_Asian 2.71

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Assyrian @ 6.964
2 Armenian @ 8.236
3 Kurdish @ 12.808
4 Iranian @ 14.881
5 Lebanese_Muslim @ 16.691
6 Turkish @ 17.359
7 Syrian @ 19.077
8 Lebanese_Christian @ 19.498
9 Lebanese_Druze @ 20.001
10 Cyprian @ 21.417

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Armenian +50% Assyrian @ 6.277
2 50% Assyrian +50% Assyrian @ 6.964
3 50% Armenian +50% Armenian @ 8.236
4 50% Assyrian +50% Kurdish @ 8.369
5 50% Georgian +50% Lebanese_Druze @ 8.562
6 50% Abhkasian +50% Lebanese_Druze @ 8.959
7 50% Assyrian +50% Iranian @ 9.306
8 50% Armenian +50% Lebanese_Druze @ 9.469
9 50% Armenian +50% Kurdish @ 9.548
10 50% Armenian +50% Lebanese_Christian @ 9.730

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Lebanese_Druze +25% Abhkasian +25% Armenian @ 6.263
2 50% Assyrian +25% Armenian +25% Assyrian @ 6.266
3 50% Armenian +25% Assyrian +25% Assyrian @ 6.277
4 50% Assyrian +25% Armenian +25% Armenian @ 6.277
5 50% Assyrian +25% Abhkasian +25% Lebanese_Druze @ 6.301
6 50% Armenian +25% Armenian +25% Lebanese_Druze @ 6.533
7 50% Assyrian +25% Georgian +25% Lebanese_Druze @ 6.601
8 50% Lebanese_Druze +25% Abhkasian +25% Assyrian @ 6.653
9 50% Lebanese_Druze +25% Armenian +25% Georgian @ 6.864
10 50% Assyrian +25% Abhkasian +25% Lebanese_Christian @ 6.893

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Abhkasian + Armenian + Lebanese_Druze + Lebanese_Druze @ 6.263
2 Armenian + Assyrian + Assyrian + Assyrian @ 6.266
3 Armenian + Armenian + Assyrian + Assyrian @ 6.277
4 Abhkasian + Assyrian + Assyrian + Lebanese_Druze @ 6.301
5 Armenian + Armenian + Armenian + Lebanese_Druze @ 6.533
6 Assyrian + Assyrian + Georgian + Lebanese_Druze @ 6.601
7 Abhkasian + Assyrian + Lebanese_Druze + Lebanese_Druze @ 6.653
8 Abhkasian + Armenian + Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Druze @ 6.655
9 Armenian + Georgian + Lebanese_Druze + Lebanese_Druze @ 6.864
10 Abhkasian + Assyrian + Assyrian + Lebanese_Christian @ 6.893
11 Abhkasian + Assyrian + Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Druze @ 6.897
12 Abhkasian + Kurdish + Lebanese_Druze + Lebanese_Druze @ 6.926
13 Armenian + Armenian + Kurdish + Lebanese_Druze @ 6.933
14 Assyrian + Assyrian + Assyrian + Assyrian @ 6.964
15 Armenian + Assyrian + Assyrian + Kurdish @ 6.966
16 Armenian + Armenian + Assyrian + Lebanese_Druze @ 6.981
17 Armenian + Armenian + Armenian + Lebanese_Christian @ 6.995
18 Armenian + Armenian + Armenian + Assyrian @ 6.995
19 Abhkasian + Kurdish + Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Druze @ 7.085
20 Assyrian + Assyrian + Assyrian + Kurdish @ 7.086

[Black Wolf]

We already know that. We are discussing why our gedmatch distance scores and 23andMe percentage of Spanish matches are different.

You do?...Well there ya go then baby cakes! :D

[Atlantic Islander]

This run is really convinced i'm spanish...


Could you post your oracle-x results too please?

[Damião de Góis]

Could you post your oracle-x results too please?

Ok, but oracle-x has always given me very random results. This one is no exception:


Pct. Calc. Option 1

1 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 72.81%
2 French_Basque 10.92%
3 North_Italian 3.52%
4 Danish 3.35%
5 Greek 2.88%
6 Abhkasian 2.59%
7 Lebanese_Druze 2.23%
8 Bantu_S.E. 1.16%
9 Papuan 0.54%
10 Serbian 0.00%


Pct. Calc. Option 2

0 Unable to determine 0.02%
1 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 47.82%
2 Spanish_Cataluna 27.29%
3 Spanish_Valencia 13.81%
4 Abhkasian 6.31%
5 French_Basque 3.03%
6 Bantu_S.W. 1.07%
7 Ethiopian_Gumuz 0.23%
8 Papuan 0.20%
9 Greek 0.13%
10 Kurdish 0.00%

[Atlantic Islander]

Ok, but oracle-x has always given me very random results. This one is no exception:

Wow, yeah definitely random.

Mine:

Pct. Calc. Option 1

1 Spanish_Murcia 67.03%
2 Portuguese 26.69%
3 Orcadian 4.60%
4 Algerian 1.62%
5 Spanish_Galicia 0.02%
6 Moroccan 0.02%
7 Mozabite_Berber 0.01%
8 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 0.01%
9 Spanish_Cataluna 0.00%
10 Spanish_Extremadura 0.00%

Pct. Calc. Option 2

1 Spanish_Murcia 58.13%
2 Portuguese 18.02%
3 Orcadian 6.85%
4 Algerian 6.18%
5 Spanish_Galicia 5.50%
6 Spanish_Extremadura 3.14%
7 Spanish_Cantabria 1.10%
8 Spanish_Cataluna 1.09%
9 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 0.00%
10 French 0.00%

The Azorean I posted earlier:

Pct. Calc. Option 1

1 French 46.78%
2 French_Basque 20.55%
3 Irish 13.97%
4 Lithuanian 9.56%
5 Yemenite_Jewish 6.00%
6 Mbuti_Pygmy 1.31%
7 Spanish_Valencia 0.84%
8 Belorussian 0.82%
9 Chamar 0.17%
10 Mozabite_Berber 0.00%

Pct. Calc. Option 2

0 Unable to determine 0.02%
1 French 59.89%
2 French_Basque 11.83%
3 Belorussian 7.61%
4 Spanish_Aragon 4.98%
5 Lithuanian 4.79%
6 Yemenite_Jewish 4.68%
7 Irish 4.16%
8 Mbuti_Pygmy 2.00%
9 Austrian 0.02%
10 Mozabite_Berber 0.01%

Mine's not bad, at least I get some Portuguese. :p

[Anglojew]

Strange your results I thought you would score more East_Med...You don't even get any Ashkenazi as your top scores in Orcle or Oracle-4.

I'm a fairly "Aryan" Jew.

[Black Wolf]

I'm a fairly "Aryan" Jew.

Yes seems like you inherited more European type genes from your Ashkenazi side than Levantine.

[Anglojew]

Yes seems like you inherited more European type genes from your Ashkenazi side than Levantine.

Yeah. I'm probably part Khazar too (or at least some other Hunnic/Turkic steppe people in antiqity). I do have some Levantine ancestry though.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

My results:

Population
South_Baltic 5.42%
East_Euro 11.26%
North-Central_EURO 10.68%
Atlantic 10.56%
West_Med 7.21%
West_Asian 3.07%
Middle_Eastern 3.89%
South_Asian 4.83%
East_African 2.37%
East_Asian 16.78%
Siberian 17.84%
West_African 5.68%

[Atlantic Islander]

My results:

Population
South_Baltic 5.42%
East_Euro 11.26%
North-Central_EURO 10.68%
Atlantic 10.56%
West_Med 7.21%
West_Asian 3.07%
Middle_Eastern 3.89%
South_Asian 4.83%
East_African 2.37%
East_Asian 16.78%
Siberian 17.84%
West_African 5.68%

Wrong run.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Why?
Wrong run.

[Atlantic Islander]

Why?

It's not the EUtest V2 K15 run.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Wrong run.

That is my EUtest results

[Atlantic Islander]

That is my EUtest results

You should post it in the EUtest (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?70027-Post-your-EUtest-amp-Jtest-results) thread, not this thread.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Where can i get the EUtest V2 K15 one?
You should post it in the EUtest thread, not this thread.

[Atlantic Islander]

Where can i get the EUtest V2 K15 one?

Do you have a gedmatch account? It's under Eurogenes and it's the newest test, so it's first on the list.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Yeah and Thanks. will go look there.
Do you have a gedmatch account? It's under Eurogenes and it's the newest test, so it's first on the list.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Do you have a gedmatch account? It's under Eurogenes and it's the newest test, so it's first on the list.

Ok here they are my results:

Population
North_Sea 10.05%
Atlantic 11.31%
Baltic 2.20%
Eastern_Euro 3.07%
West_Med 10.76%
West_Asian -
East_Med 4.30%
Red_Sea 3.05%
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian 7.00%
Siberian 1.19%
Amerindian 37.85%
Oceanian 1.14%
Northeast_African 1.82%
-Saharan 6.23%

[Quasimodem]

''Yes, somewhere in that general area. It'll be interesting to see how the German and Danish Single Grave samples from The Rise project turn out in terms of genome-wide affinities. I expect them to be North Sea-like, or at least carrying a major component that contributed to the modern North Sea cluster.''

So are those samples going to be publicly available sometime?

[Chad Rohlfsen]

Sorry to post here again. I was approved to join the Taxonomy group, however I cannot see anyone's post or make a new thread for my own taxonomy. What gives? LOL

[Chad Rohlfsen]

sorry I figured it out!

[Maleficent]

Interesting I'm 1/4 Assyrian, Armenian, Kurdish on this oneAll of these tests seem to be picking up Mesopotamian for you rather than Levantine.....

[Anglojew]

All of these tests seem to be picking up Mesopotamian for you rather than Levantine.....

Yeah, that's true.

The three theories are (because this relates to my haplogroup);

1. My ancestors were Iraqi Jews who migrated to Europe.

2. My ancestors were the original proto-Jews who migrated to Canaan with Abraham.

3. My ancestors were in the Babylonian captivity and then returned to Judea.


Or a combination. You're right though, I seem more Kurdish/Assyrian/Mandean than Druze/Levantine.

[Maleficent]

Yeah, that's true.

The three theories are (because this relates to my haplogroup);

1. My ancestors were Iraqi Jews who migrated to Europe.

2. My ancestors were the original proto-Jews who migrated to Canaan with Abraham.

3. My ancestors were in the Babylonian captivity and then returned to Judea.


Or a combination. You're right though, I seem more Kurdish/Assyrian/Mandean than Druze/Levantine.

Yes, your Jew ancestors must have came from Babylon since you are getting lots of Assyrian/Mandean, whereas mine from Canaan since I am getting lots of Samaritan/Druze.

[Oneeye]

Oneeye:

http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u399/hammer1115/eurogenesk15me_zps75da3d56.png (http://s1065.photobucket.com/user/hammer1115/media/eurogenesk15me_zps75da3d56.png.html)





Oneeye's mother"

http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/u399/hammer1115/eurogenesk15mom_zps417c24d0.png (http://s1065.photobucket.com/user/hammer1115/media/eurogenesk15mom_zps417c24d0.png.html)

[Alessio]

Why does Sephardim all of a sudden comes in the 6th place, while all other calculators don't even present Sephardim in all of my (2 populations approximations) top 10?


Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Southeast_English +50% Tuscan @ 7.105
2 50% Southwest_English +50% Tuscan @ 7.438
3 50% Irish +50% Tuscan @ 7.448
4 50% French +50% Tuscan @ 7.588
5 50% German +50% Tuscan @ 7.630
6 50% Irish +50% Sephardic_Jewish @ 7.750
7 50% Tuscan +50% West_Scottish @ 7.805
8 50% Sephardic_Jewish +50% West_Scottish @ 7.907
9 50% Danish +50% Tuscan @ 7.994
10 50% Sephardic_Jewish +50% Southeast_English @ 8.243

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62.8% Tuscan + 37.2% Irish @ 5.03
2 63.6% Tuscan + 36.4% West_Scottish @ 5.12
3 60.6% Tuscan + 39.4% Southeast_English @ 5.25
4 63.3% Tuscan + 36.7% Danish @ 5.48
5 60.5% Southwest_English + 39.5% Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.57
6 59.8% Southeast_English + 40.2% Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.64
7 60.2% Tuscan + 39.8% Southwest_English @ 5.71
8 77.8% French + 22.2% Turkish @ 5.73
9 57.5% Irish + 42.5% Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.74
10 81.5% French + 18.5% Armenian @ 5.79
11 81.5% French + 18.5% Assyrian @ 5.79
12 83.3% Spanish_Cataluna + 16.7% Georgian @ 5.8
13 80% Spanish_Cataluna + 20% Kumyk @ 5.82
14 81.3% Spanish_Cataluna + 18.7% Lezgin @ 5.93
15 82% Spanish_Cataluna + 18% Adygei @ 5.93
16 84.5% Spanish_Cataluna + 15.5% Abhkasian @ 5.97
17 80.1% French + 19.9% Lebanese_Muslim @ 5.99
18 80.6% Spanish_Murcia + 19.4% Lezgin @ 6
19 66.2% Tuscan + 33.8% Orcadian @ 6.06
20 56.6% West_Scottish + 43.4% Sephardic_Jewish @ 6.07

[Anglojew]

Yes, your Jew ancestors must have came from Babylon since you are getting lots of Assyrian/Mandean, whereas mine from Canaan since I am getting lots of Samaritan/Druze.

Yes, you're the Israelite and I'm the Babylonian ironically.

[Anglojew]

Why does Sephardim all of a sudden comes in the 6th place, while all other calculators don't even present Sephardim in all of my (2 populations approximations) top 10?


Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Southeast_English +50% Tuscan @ 7.105
2 50% Southwest_English +50% Tuscan @ 7.438
3 50% Irish +50% Tuscan @ 7.448
4 50% French +50% Tuscan @ 7.588
5 50% German +50% Tuscan @ 7.630
6 50% Irish +50% Sephardic_Jewish @ 7.750
7 50% Tuscan +50% West_Scottish @ 7.805
8 50% Sephardic_Jewish +50% West_Scottish @ 7.907
9 50% Danish +50% Tuscan @ 7.994
10 50% Sephardic_Jewish +50% Southeast_English @ 8.243

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62.8% Tuscan + 37.2% Irish @ 5.03
2 63.6% Tuscan + 36.4% West_Scottish @ 5.12
3 60.6% Tuscan + 39.4% Southeast_English @ 5.25
4 63.3% Tuscan + 36.7% Danish @ 5.48
5 60.5% Southwest_English + 39.5% Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.57
6 59.8% Southeast_English + 40.2% Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.64
7 60.2% Tuscan + 39.8% Southwest_English @ 5.71
8 77.8% French + 22.2% Turkish @ 5.73
9 57.5% Irish + 42.5% Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.74
10 81.5% French + 18.5% Armenian @ 5.79
11 81.5% French + 18.5% Assyrian @ 5.79
12 83.3% Spanish_Cataluna + 16.7% Georgian @ 5.8
13 80% Spanish_Cataluna + 20% Kumyk @ 5.82
14 81.3% Spanish_Cataluna + 18.7% Lezgin @ 5.93
15 82% Spanish_Cataluna + 18% Adygei @ 5.93
16 84.5% Spanish_Cataluna + 15.5% Abhkasian @ 5.97
17 80.1% French + 19.9% Lebanese_Muslim @ 5.99
18 80.6% Spanish_Murcia + 19.4% Lezgin @ 6
19 66.2% Tuscan + 33.8% Orcadian @ 6.06
20 56.6% West_Scottish + 43.4% Sephardic_Jewish @ 6.07

Someone will know better than me but there were lots of Sephardim in both Holland and Italy so maybe you're a member of the tribe?

[Maleficent]

Yes, you're the Israelite and I'm the Babylonian ironically.

Yes, very true and very ironic. But not that ironic if you think about it.....

[Alessio]

23andme says i'm 100 % European, and in Jtest i'm ony 5,27 % Ashkenazi, so I don't think there's a link to being partially Jewish my friend. I was hoping some people here would know if the new EUtest had more Sephardim samples.
The reason I ask this is because in no other calculator Sephardim was even mentioned, but I had on some calculators Ashkenazi after Southern Italian, Greek or Tuscan.
These calculators calculate the distance between my genome and the reference populalations they possess, am I right? So why does Sephardim comes along all of a sudden? (after Italian)
This doesn't mean that I got Sephardim ancestors, I know enough to be sure of that, but I also know that the Eutest is one of the better calculators out there on the market, so what did they adjust to get Sephardim in the list..? Oh and I don't need people to get me in their ''tribe''


Someone will know better than me but there were lots of Sephardim in both Holland and Italy so maybe you're a member of the tribe?

[Alessio]

Can you post your 2 populations approximation, instead of only 1 and 4?


Yeah. I'm probably part Khazar too (or at least some other Hunnic/Turkic steppe people in antiqity). I do have some Levantine ancestry though.

[Chad Rohlfsen]

these just show possible ancestries that could create your mix. not your actual ancestry. id say that Tuscan/SE England is probably close to what you are. SE England and Dutch are very close genetically.

[Alessio]

I know that Chad, but the thing that I was pointing out is that NO other calculator incl. the older version of Eurogenes had Sephardim included..
So I would advice to read my question again, if you want to answer it. :thumb001: Oh and Tuscan isn't that accurate because it has to be Southern Italian, but I don't know the exact difference, I would guess that Tuscan samples have more Northern European, or less East Med.
Thanks anyway bud.




these just show possible ancestries that could create your mix. not your actual ancestry. id say that Tuscan/SE England is probably close to what you are. SE England and Dutch are very close genetically.

[Jackson]

I know that Chad, but the thing that I was pointing out is that NO other calculator incl. the older version of Eurogenes had Sephardim included..
So I would advice to read my question again, if you want to answer it. :thumb001: Oh and Tuscan isn't that accurate because it has to be Southern Italian, but I don't know the exact difference, I would guess that Tuscan samples have more Northern European, or less East Med.
Thanks anyway bud.

Well if i remember correctly Ashkenazic Jews tend to come out pretty similar to southern Italians genetically, although i don't know about Sephardim, perhaps they are fairly similar? Very minor variations in the numbers can make somewhat big differences in the mixed mode when you are dealing with similar populations i guess. If your Italian half is similar in many ways to Sephardim, it's not surprising it comes up as an option. If you have no substantial Jewish matches on 23&me or GEDmatch then probably it is not actually Jewish, but it is just a 'nearby' population? Pretty much as Chad said...

[YeshAtid]

Well if i remember correctly Ashkenazic Jews tend to come out pretty similar to southern Italians genetically, although i don't know about Sephardim, perhaps they are fairly similar? .

Azkhenazis are closer to Southern Italians

[Alessio]

I got maybe 1 Jewish 3rd to distant cousin on 23andme and with Declared Ashkenazi Jewish I got one guy but he's from the Netherlands also..
My first match is from Naples (0.41% shared, 2 segments) and I more than a few Southern Italian matches there. ( Campania region, but also Sicily)
Now I got some Russian matches too, but they're on the last page of dna relatives, and also significant British matches, and one guy from Kazachstan, but his ''countries of ancestry'' shows a lot of German ancestors.
In countries of ancestry Italy is nr2 after The Netherlands, and i'm not really unsure of the fact i'm half Italian anymore due to more research I did. ( my first match along with other matches for me confirmed the possibility that my biological father is from Naples, that is too much of a coinsidence, and it was either that or French)
The only thing that came in mind was the fact that I never saw Sephardic as an option before after Southern Italian/Sicilian or Greek and Tuscan.
I've noticed that on Gedmatch almost all of my matches were of Dutch/German and British decent, and some Russians, but very few Italians.

Weren't there more ways to see the differences between Jewish and Southern Italian dna ?(perhaps other calculators like K36)


Well if i remember correctly Ashkenazic Jews tend to come out pretty similar to southern Italians genetically, although i don't know about Sephardim, perhaps they are fairly similar? Very minor variations in the numbers can make somewhat big differences in the mixed mode when you are dealing with similar populations i guess. If your Italian half is similar in many ways to Sephardim, it's not surprising it comes up as an option. If you have no substantial Jewish matches on 23&me or GEDmatch then probably it is not actually Jewish, but it is just a 'nearby' population? Pretty much as Chad said...

[hawklutz]

The second Austian on this forum, except that I'm a West-Ukrainian boyko highlander as far as I know. Abnormally low North_Sea component for the area and very high Alantic at this:
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 21.87
2 Baltic 21.67
3 Eastern_Euro 16.3
4 North_Sea 13.34
5 West_Med 9.6
6 East_Med 9.59
7 West_Asian 5.89
8 Red_Sea 0.77
9 Northeast_African 0.5
10 Southeast_Asian 0.35
11 Amerindian 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Austrian 7.76
2 Serbian 9.77
3 Hungarian 10.78
4 Romanian 11.36
5 Polish 11.55
6 Bulgarian 12.52
7 Ukrainian_West 12.8
8 Ukrainian 13.05
9 Russian 13.58
10 Ukrainian_Northeast 13.66
11 Belorussian 14.93
12 Kargopol_Russian 17.07
13 Southwest_Finnish 17.68
14 Lithuanian 18.89
15 East_Finnish 18.89
16 Finnish 18.94
17 Erzya 19.47
18 German 19.61
19 Estonian 19.92
20 Greek 20.15

4-Ancestors Oracle

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Belorussian +50% Bulgarian @ 7.000
2 50% Belorussian +50% Greek @ 7.329
3 50% Belorussian +50% Romanian @ 7.853
4 50% Belorussian +50% North_Italian @ 7.859
5 50% Bulgarian +50% Russian @ 7.908
6 50% Lithuanian +50% Tuscan @ 7.932
7 50% Lithuanian +50% North_Italian @ 7.972
8 50% Belorussian +50% Tuscan @ 8.014
9 50% North_Italian +50% Ukrainian_Northeast @ 8.020
10 50% Bulgarian +50% Polish @ 8.030
13695 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Belorussian +25% Greek +25% Spanish_Valencia @ 5.411
2 50% Belorussian +25% Greek +25% Southwest_French @ 5.447
3 50% Ukrainian_Northeast +25% Bulgarian +25% Spanish_Valencia @ 5.484
4 50% Belorussian +25% Bulgarian +25% Spanish_Andalucia @ 5.535
5 50% Ukrainian_Northeast +25% Greek +25% Southwest_French @ 5.551
6 50% Belorussian +25% Greek +25% Spanish_Andalucia @ 5.564
7 50% Belorussian +25% Bulgarian +25% Spanish_Valencia @ 5.611
8 50% Ukrainian_Northeast +25% Bulgarian +25% Spanish_Andalucia @ 5.681
9 50% Ukrainian_Northeast +25% Bulgarian +25% Southwest_French @ 5.716
10 50% Belorussian +25% Greek +25% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 5.731
475521 iterations.



Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Erzya + French_Basque + Greek + Lithuanian @ 5.290
2 Belorussian + Greek + Southwest_French + Ukrainian_Northeast @ 5.318
3 Greek + Lithuanian + Spanish_Valencia + Ukrainian_Northeast @ 5.348
4 Greek + Lithuanian + Southwest_French + Ukrainian_Northeast @ 5.365
5 Belorussian + Bulgarian + Spanish_Valencia + Ukrainian_Northeast @ 5.368
6 Belorussian + Belorussian + Greek + Spanish_Valencia @ 5.411
7 Belorussian + Greek + Lithuanian + Spanish_Valencia @ 5.424
8 Belorussian + Bulgarian + Spanish_Andalucia + Ukrainian_Northeast @ 5.430
9 Belorussian + Belorussian + Greek + Southwest_French @ 5.447
10 Belorussian + Greek + Spanish_Valencia + Ukrainian_Northeast @ 5.460
11 Bulgarian + Spanish_Valencia + Ukrainian_Northeast + Ukrainian_Northeast @ 5.484
12 Erzya + Greek + Lithuanian + Spanish_Valencia @ 5.520
13 Belorussian + Greek + Lithuanian + Spanish_Andalucia @ 5.527
14 Belorussian + Belorussian + Bulgarian + Spanish_Andalucia @ 5.535
15 Belorussian + Erzya + Greek + Southwest_French @ 5.550
16 Greek + Southwest_French + Ukrainian_Northeast + Ukrainian_Northeast @ 5.551
17 Belorussian + Belorussian + Greek + Spanish_Andalucia @ 5.564
18 Greek + Lithuanian + Spanish_Aragon + Ukrainian_Northeast @ 5.572
19 Belorussian + Erzya + Greek + Spanish_Valencia @ 5.582
20 Greek + Lithuanian + Spanish_Andalucia + Ukrainian_Northeast @ 5.590

[Chad Rohlfsen]

Id say ask the forum members for results. One who is full southern Italian and another full askenazi in known ancestry. Maybe several to get an overall average. I'm sure there are several lurking around here. Have them post their various results. Maybe some Sephardi are lurking out there.

[Chad Rohlfsen]

I have several matches with Ashkenazi's on 23andMe as well. It makes me curious since we cant find a shared ancestor. On the site describing Jtest averages, it seems every European scores Ashkenazi in small amounts. Maybe something core in Ashkenazi Jews was also in Neolithic migrants in smaller amounts. Anyone on here know the reason?

[Anglojew]

Can you post your 2 populations approximation, instead of only 1 and 4?

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Ashkenazi +50% Southwest_English @ 3.392
2 50% Ashkenazi +50% Southeast_English @ 3.804
3 50% Ashkenazi +50% Irish @ 4.338
4 50% Ashkenazi +50% West_Scottish @ 4.428
5 50% Ashkenazi +50% Danish @ 4.446
6 50% Ashkenazi +50% German @ 4.516
7 50% Ashkenazi +50% Dutch @ 4.622
8 50% Ashkenazi +50% Orcadian @ 5.161
9 50% Dutch +50% Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.658
10 50% Norwegian +50% Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.676
13695 iterations.

[Loki]

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[Anglojew]

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But stormfront says you're Jewish....

[Loki]

But stormfront says you're Jewish....

LOL. Other tests have shown that I have zero Ashkenazi genes ... even less than the average modern European.

[Jackson]

But stormfront says you're Jewish....

Yeah he's actually less Jewish than most non-Jewish people lol, i think people on Stormfront must just decide anyone they don't like is Jewish or something?

[Scarlet Ibis]

Oneeye:

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Oneeye's mother"

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Just out of curiosity, did it pick up any Amerind for your mom?

[Scarlet Ibis]

Yeah he's actually less Jewish than most non-Jewish people lol, i think people on Stormfront must just decide anyone they don't like is Jewish or something?

This is OT, so the mods can delete it if they want, but I just can't help myself here. Last night, I was googling something about the blonde gypsy child in the news, and a stormfront thread about it showed up in the Google results. Someone was trying to claim the official who announced the child's DNA results is a Jew who was trying to cover up white outrage.

[Anglojew]

LOL. Other tests have shown that I have zero Ashkenazi genes ... even less than the average modern European.

Did you seem some nutter has posted some sort of threat to you, on Youtube?

[Oneeye]

Just out of curiosity, did it pick up any Amerind for your mom?

Are you asking if this test picked up any native? She got around 1%, no more than I did. Actually, a little bit less than I did.

[Scarlet Ibis]

Are you asking if this test picked up any native? She got around 1%, no more than I did. Actually, a little bit less than I did.

Oops, sorry, my mistake.... I meant did 23andme pick up any.

[Oneeye]

Oops, sorry, my mistake.... I meant did 23andme pick up any.

Nope, nothing. It does pick up 0.1% SSA, and 0.1% North African . (The latter is on the X chromosome, which I inherited)

[Albannach]

Heres my results


# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 36.09
2 Atlantic 32.33
3 Baltic 12.09
4 Eastern_Euro 8.40
5 West_Asian 5.60
6 West_Med 4.25
7 Oceanian 0.90
8 Amerindian 0.33

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Irish 3.96
2 West_Scottish 4.31
3 Danish 5.17
4 Southeast_English 5.85
5 Orcadian 7.34
6 Dutch 7.65
7 Southwest_English 7.71
8 German 8.53
9 Norwegian 9.42
10 Swedish 10.02
11 North_Swedish 12.63
12 French 15.27
13 Southwest_Finnish 16.46
14 Austrian 18.43
15 Hungarian 19.82
16 Finnish 19.98
17 Spanish_Cataluna 22.06
18 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 23.13
19 Spanish_Galicia 23.19
20 Serbian 23.8


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 98% Irish + 2% Chechen @ 3.83
2 98.2% Irish + 1.8% North_Ossetian @ 3.83
3 98.4% Irish + 1.6% Adygei @ 3.87
4 98.4% Irish + 1.6% Lezgin @ 3.87
5 99.4% Irish + 0.6% Papuan @ 3.87
6 98.5% Irish + 1.5% Balkar @ 3.88
7 98.8% Irish + 1.2% Abhkasian @ 3.89
8 98.9% Irish + 1.1% Georgian @ 3.9
9 99.4% Irish + 0.6% NAN_Melanesian @ 3.9
10 98.9% Irish + 1.1% Kumyk @ 3.92
11 98.6% Irish + 1.4% Lithuanian @ 3.93
12 98.6% Irish + 1.4% Ukrainian_Northeast @ 3.93
13 98.5% Irish + 1.5% Belorussian @ 3.93
14 99.1% Irish + 0.9% Nogay @ 3.93
15 98.7% Irish + 1.3% Estonian @ 3.94
16 98.6% Irish + 1.4% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.95
17 99.5% Irish + 0.5% Tadjik @ 3.95
18 99.4% Irish + 0.6% Russian @ 3.95
19 99.5% Irish + 0.5% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.95
20 99.3% Irish + 0.7% Finnish @ 3.95

[Rochefaton]

1 North_Sea 42.38
2 Atlantic 22.58
3 West_Med 10.58
4 Eastern_Euro 9.38
5 Baltic 8.77
6 West_Asian 3.85
7 Amerindian 1.34
8 South_Asian 0.92
9 Northeast_African 0.19

# Population (source) Distance
1 Orcadian 5.72
2 Norwegian 6.5
3 Dutch 6.84
4 Swedish 8.44
5 Southwest_English 8.61
6 Danish 8.74
7 West_Scottish 9.02
8 Southeast_English 9.14
9 Irish 9.61
10 German 10.61

[amerinese]

...

Sup mah nigguh. Send me a friend request and PM if you want to share on 23andMe.

[JQP4545]

I'm Irish, German, Scottish, and Greek with a little French and African-American.

Atlantic 25.28
North_Sea 23.22
West_Med 12.28
Eastern_Euro 11.76
East_Med 9.05
Baltic 8.52
West_Asian 7.89
South_Asian 1.06
Northeast_African 0.61
Sub-Saharan 0.23
Oceanian 0.1

Anything look unusual? I thought the Eastern Euro seemed a little high considering I have no known Eastern European ancestors.

[The Exiled King]

I don't know why I got a pretty high amount of South-Asian on this test compared to all the others.

1 East_Med 19.35
2 North_Sea 18.92
3 Atlantic 16.77
4 West_Med 16.47
5 West_Asian 10.41
6 Baltic 8.3
7 Eastern_Euro 5.87
8 Red_Sea 2.71
9 South_Asian 0.94
10 Sub-Saharan 0.27

[Wuotan]

Would my Nord-Pas-de-Calais ancestry prevent me from joining the North Sea Club? I really hope not, as it's my favorite portion of my heritage.

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 35.3
2 Atlantic 24.09
3 West_Med 12.36
4 Baltic 9.86
5 Eastern_Euro 7.21
6 West_Asian 4.22
7 East_Med 2.94
8 South_Asian 1.72
9 Red_Sea 1
10 Southeast_Asian 0.68
11 Sub-Saharan 0.36
12 Northeast_African 0.26


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_English 4.69
2 Dutch 5.49
3 German 5.8
4 Southeast_English 6.24
5 Danish 7.48
6 Orcadian 7.57
7 Irish 7.92
8 French 8.03
9 West_Scottish 8.14
10 Norwegian 8.67
11 Swedish 9.85
12 North_Swedish 12.57
13 Spanish_Galicia 15.39
14 Hungarian 15.8
15 Spanish_Cataluna 16.19
16 Austrian 16.3
17 Portuguese 16.85
18 Southwest_Finnish 17.19
19 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 17.48
20 Spanish_Extremadura 18.59

[Jackson]

Would my Nord-Pas-de-Calais ancestry prevent me from joining the North Sea Club? I really hope not, as it's my favorite portion of my heritage.

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 35.3
2 Atlantic 24.09
3 West_Med 12.36
4 Baltic 9.86
5 Eastern_Euro 7.21
6 West_Asian 4.22
7 East_Med 2.94
8 South_Asian 1.72
9 Red_Sea 1
10 Southeast_Asian 0.68
11 Sub-Saharan 0.36
12 Northeast_African 0.26


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_English 4.69
2 Dutch 5.49
3 German 5.8
4 Southeast_English 6.24
5 Danish 7.48
6 Orcadian 7.57
7 Irish 7.92
8 French 8.03
9 West_Scottish 8.14
10 Norwegian 8.67
11 Swedish 9.85
12 North_Swedish 12.57
13 Spanish_Galicia 15.39
14 Hungarian 15.8
15 Spanish_Cataluna 16.19
16 Austrian 16.3
17 Portuguese 16.85
18 Southwest_Finnish 17.19
19 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 17.48
20 Spanish_Extremadura 18.59

Interesting results, how much of your ancestry is from France? Your results look fairly similar to mine,although I think you are shifted a bit to the south west by comparison.

[sonofthedutch]

FIrst Post ever and hello!!

Im 3/4 dutch and 1/4 english

North_Sea 35.75%
Atlantic 31.57%
Baltic 9.23%
Eastern_Euro 5.86%
West_Med 8.19%
West_Asian 6.31%
East_Med 1.26%
Red_Sea 0.16%
Oceanian 0.68%
Northeast_African 0.30%
Sub-Saharan 0.68%

[Stormer99]

I'm Irish, German, Scottish, and Greek with a little French and African-American.

Atlantic 25.28
North_Sea 23.22
West_Med 12.28
Eastern_Euro 11.76
East_Med 9.05
Baltic 8.52
West_Asian 7.89
South_Asian 1.06
Northeast_African 0.61
Sub-Saharan 0.23
Oceanian 0.1

Anything look unusual? I thought the Eastern Euro seemed a little high considering I have no known Eastern European ancestors.

Did your German side have Slavic surnames?

[Maleficent]

Did your German side have Slavic surnames?Instead of asking random questions in this thread; post your own results.:rolleyes:

[Stormer99]

Instead of asking random questions in this thread; post your own results.:rolleyes:

Excuse me for wanting to be a source of wisdom around here.... :picard1:

[sonofthedutch]

Any of the Apricity members have some insight on my results?

[Stormer99]

Any of the Apricity members have some insight on my results?

I asked if you had any Slavic surnames on your German side. Did they come from Pomerania by any chance?

[sonofthedutch]

I asked if you had any Slavic surnames on your German side. Did they come from Pomerania by any chance?

Sorry, i think that was directed to JQP4545. According to your earlier post.

[Stormer99]

Sorry, i think that was directed to JQP4545. According to your earlier post.

Sorry. I replied to the wrong person. I'm a bit tired right now.

[Maleficent]

Excuse me for wanting to be a source of wisdom around here.... :picard1:Why do you think you get to know everything about everyone else's results, but you never share your own?! That's really selfish.

[Stormer99]

Why do you think you get to know everything about everyone else's results, but you never share your own?! That's really selfish.

It's not the thread to nitpick everything I do or don't do. If you can see, I was helping someone else interpret his own results... I didn't see you helping him. See, I could nitpick as well.

[Hevo]

Any of the Apricity members have some insight on my results?

Could you show your Oracle results?

[sonofthedutch]

Could you show your Oracle results?


Here you go man, this is my top ten:
1 Southeast_English 4.02
2 Irish 4.16
3 West_Scottish 4.66
4 Southwest_English 4.82
5 Danish 5.63
6 Orcadian 7.35
7 Dutch 7.5
8 German 7.83
9 Norwegian 10.58
10 Swedish 11.57

My paternal grandfather is of English Descent (Possible Irish or Scottish mix, none confirmed)
The other three are from the Netherlands (Utrecht and North Brabant)

[Stormer99]

Here you go man, this is my top ten:
1 Southeast_English 4.02
2 Irish 4.16
3 West_Scottish 4.66
4 Southwest_English 4.82
5 Danish 5.63
6 Orcadian 7.35
7 Dutch 7.5
8 German 7.83
9 Norwegian 10.58
10 Swedish 11.57

My paternal grandfather is of English Descent (Possible Irish or Scottish mix, none confirmed)
The other three are from the Netherlands (Utrecht and North Brabant)

It's saying your genetic profile fits into Northwestern Europe.

[sonofthedutch]

:p

Thanks!!!

[JQP4545]

Did your German side have Slavic surnames?

No, I don't have any Slavic surnames; all German. A few were born in Prussia, but most are not even from Eastern German. Most came from Baden-Wurttemberg and Hessen.

[Sizzo]

Mine is a strange case:

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 27.62
2 West_Med 22.96
3 East_Med 20.7
4 Atlantic 18.41
5 West_Asian 5.28
6 Baltic 4.83
7 Red_Sea 0.1
8 Southeast_Asian 0.1

High North Sea and high East Med too.

# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Italian 11.92
2 Tuscan 13.52
3 Spanish_Galicia 13.6
4 Portuguese 13.7
5 Spanish_Extremadura 15.01
6 Spanish_Murcia 15.05
7 Spanish_Cataluna 15.12
8 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 16.01
9 French 16.48
10 Spanish_Andalucia 17.5
11 Spanish_Valencia 17.64
12 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 18.45
13 Spanish_Cantabria 18.67
14 Spanish_Aragon 19.66
15 Greek 20.33
16 Serbian 20.57
17 Romanian 20.68
18 Southwest_French 20.76
19 Bulgarian 21.13
20 Ashkenazi 21.87

I'm not so close to North Italian.

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 82% Spanish_Galicia + 18% Lebanese_Druze @ 10.65
2 82.7% Spanish_Galicia + 17.3% Lebanese_Christian @ 10.99
3 79.9% Spanish_Galicia + 20.1% Cyprian @ 11.11
4 83% Portuguese + 17% Lebanese_Druze @ 11.2
5 82.7% Spanish_Galicia + 17.3% Samaritan @ 11.24
6 50.5% Tuscan + 49.5% Spanish_Galicia @ 11.32
7 77% Tuscan + 23% Orcadian @ 11.34
8 84% Spanish_Galicia + 16% Assyrian @ 11.39
9 83.6% Portuguese + 16.4% Lebanese_Christian @ 11.46
10 88.4% North_Italian + 11.6% Orcadian @ 11.48
11 62.4% Tuscan + 37.6% French @ 11.51
12 82.6% Spanish_Galicia + 17.4% Lebanese_Muslim @ 11.53
13 89.5% North_Italian + 10.5% Norwegian @ 11.54
14 74.5% Tuscan + 25.5% Southwest_English @ 11.54
15 84.6% Spanish_Galicia + 15.4% Armenian @ 11.54
16 90.2% North_Italian + 9.8% Swedish @ 11.58
17 78.5% Tuscan + 21.5% Norwegian @ 11.58
18 81% Portuguese + 19% Cyprian @ 11.61
19 76.8% Spanish_Galicia + 23.2% Sephardic_Jewish @ 11.64
20 51.2% Tuscan + 48.8% Portuguese @ 11.64

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 27.62
2 Atlantic 18.41
3 Baltic 4.83
4 Eastern_Euro 0.00
5 West_Med 22.96
6 West_Asian 5.28
7 East_Med 20.70
8 Red_Sea 0.10
9 South_Asian 0.00
10 Southeast_Asian 0.10
11 Siberian 0.00
12 Amerindian 0.00
13 Oceanian 0.00
14 Northeast_African 0.00
15 Sub-Saharan 0.00

Pct. Calc. Option 2

1 North_Italian 61.27%
2 Norwegian 11.73%
3 Lebanese_Druze 7.93%
4 Spanish_Galicia 5.27%
5 Tuscan 3.85%
6 Portuguese 3.80%
7 French 2.98%
8 Sardinian 2.09%
9 Orcadian 1.10%
10 Ashkenazi 0.00%

My surname seems Tuscan but I don't know documents were my Bergamask branch looks related with the Florentine stock.

Am I a Longobard/Etruscan/Cisalpine Gaulish mix? Haha.

[Argang]

You have much higher North Sea than any of the population averages of South France-Italy-Austria regions, and no visible East European which is unusual for that region as well, Sardinians excluded.

Individual variation in North Italy should be high though, so perhaps it's not that unusual.

[Wuotan]

Interesting results, how much of your ancestry is from France? Your results look fairly similar to mine,although I think you are shifted a bit to the south west by comparison.


Greetings, friend. From what I know my ancestry is comprised of French and English on both maternal and paternal sides. The paternal side is French heavy while the maternal side is more English heavy. What are your results from this particular calculator?

[cally]

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 23.71
2 West_Med 19.44
3 Atlantic 14.42
4 North_Sea 13.97
5 West_Asian 11.2
6 Baltic 9.2
7 Eastern_Euro 6.36
8 Red_Sea 1.71

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek 5.69
2 Tuscan 7.32
3 Ashkenazi 9.76
4 Bulgarian 10.73
5 North_Italian 11.83
6 Romanian 12.51
7 Serbian 15.14
8 Sephardic_Jewish 15.96
9 Portuguese 19.01
10 Spanish_Extremadura 19.32
11 Spanish_Galicia 19.47
12 Spanish_Murcia 19.71
13 Spanish_Andalucia 19.86
14 Spanish_Cataluna 20.24
15 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 20.67
16 Spanish_Valencia 20.97
17 Cyprian 21.88
18 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 22.12
19 Austrian 22.12
20 French 22.3

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 61.8% Greek + 38.2% Tuscan @ 4.39
2 76.4% Greek + 23.6% North_Italian @ 4.59
3 85.1% Greek + 14.9% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.63
4 85.4% Greek + 14.6% Portuguese @ 4.74
5 87.9% Greek + 12.1% French @ 4.84
6 86.9% Greek + 13.1% Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.94
7 87.4% Greek + 12.6% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.95
8 92.4% Greek + 7.6% Orcadian @ 4.97
9 87.3% Greek + 12.7% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.98
10 91.7% Greek + 8.3% Southwest_English @ 5
11 92.7% Greek + 7.3% Norwegian @ 5.06
12 92.2% Greek + 7.8% Dutch @ 5.06
13 88.7% Greek + 11.3% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 5.09
14 92.4% Greek + 7.6% Southeast_English @ 5.09
15 90.3% Greek + 9.7% Spanish_Cantabria @ 5.14
16 93.3% Greek + 6.7% Swedish @ 5.15
17 93% Greek + 7% Danish @ 5.15
18 93.2% Greek + 6.8% West_Scottish @ 5.15
19 93.3% Greek + 6.7% Irish @ 5.2
20 92.3% Greek + 7.7% German @ 5.22

[Mark]

...
It's interesting because our population percentages aren't that far off from each other.

[Black Wolf]

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 23.71
2 West_Med 19.44
3 Atlantic 14.42
4 North_Sea 13.97
5 West_Asian 11.2
6 Baltic 9.2
7 Eastern_Euro 6.36
8 Red_Sea 1.71

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek 5.69
2 Tuscan 7.32
3 Ashkenazi 9.76
4 Bulgarian 10.73
5 North_Italian 11.83
6 Romanian 12.51
7 Serbian 15.14
8 Sephardic_Jewish 15.96
9 Portuguese 19.01
10 Spanish_Extremadura 19.32
11 Spanish_Galicia 19.47
12 Spanish_Murcia 19.71
13 Spanish_Andalucia 19.86
14 Spanish_Cataluna 20.24
15 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 20.67
16 Spanish_Valencia 20.97
17 Cyprian 21.88
18 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 22.12
19 Austrian 22.12
20 French 22.3

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 61.8% Greek + 38.2% Tuscan @ 4.39
2 76.4% Greek + 23.6% North_Italian @ 4.59
3 85.1% Greek + 14.9% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.63
4 85.4% Greek + 14.6% Portuguese @ 4.74
5 87.9% Greek + 12.1% French @ 4.84
6 86.9% Greek + 13.1% Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.94
7 87.4% Greek + 12.6% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.95
8 92.4% Greek + 7.6% Orcadian @ 4.97
9 87.3% Greek + 12.7% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.98
10 91.7% Greek + 8.3% Southwest_English @ 5
11 92.7% Greek + 7.3% Norwegian @ 5.06
12 92.2% Greek + 7.8% Dutch @ 5.06
13 88.7% Greek + 11.3% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 5.09
14 92.4% Greek + 7.6% Southeast_English @ 5.09
15 90.3% Greek + 9.7% Spanish_Cantabria @ 5.14
16 93.3% Greek + 6.7% Swedish @ 5.15
17 93% Greek + 7% Danish @ 5.15
18 93.2% Greek + 6.8% West_Scottish @ 5.15
19 93.3% Greek + 6.7% Irish @ 5.2
20 92.3% Greek + 7.7% German @ 5.22

Interesting results thanks for sharing. You are Gheg correct?

[Übermensch]

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.72
2 West_Med 18.75
3 North_Sea 15.70
4 West_Asian 13.66
5 Atlantic 11.92
6 Red_Sea 6.43
7 Baltic 3.99
8 Eastern_Euro 2.84

[Insuperable]

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 23.71
2 West_Med 19.44
3 Atlantic 14.42
4 North_Sea 13.97
5 West_Asian 11.2
6 Baltic 9.2
7 Eastern_Euro 6.36
8 Red_Sea 1.71

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek 5.69
2 Tuscan 7.32
3 Ashkenazi 9.76
4 Bulgarian 10.73
5 North_Italian 11.83
6 Romanian 12.51
7 Serbian 15.14
8 Sephardic_Jewish 15.96
9 Portuguese 19.01
10 Spanish_Extremadura 19.32
11 Spanish_Galicia 19.47
12 Spanish_Murcia 19.71
13 Spanish_Andalucia 19.86
14 Spanish_Cataluna 20.24
15 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 20.67
16 Spanish_Valencia 20.97
17 Cyprian 21.88
18 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 22.12
19 Austrian 22.12
20 French 22.3

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 61.8% Greek + 38.2% Tuscan @ 4.39
2 76.4% Greek + 23.6% North_Italian @ 4.59
3 85.1% Greek + 14.9% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.63
4 85.4% Greek + 14.6% Portuguese @ 4.74
5 87.9% Greek + 12.1% French @ 4.84
6 86.9% Greek + 13.1% Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.94
7 87.4% Greek + 12.6% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.95
8 92.4% Greek + 7.6% Orcadian @ 4.97
9 87.3% Greek + 12.7% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.98
10 91.7% Greek + 8.3% Southwest_English @ 5
11 92.7% Greek + 7.3% Norwegian @ 5.06
12 92.2% Greek + 7.8% Dutch @ 5.06
13 88.7% Greek + 11.3% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 5.09
14 92.4% Greek + 7.6% Southeast_English @ 5.09
15 90.3% Greek + 9.7% Spanish_Cantabria @ 5.14
16 93.3% Greek + 6.7% Swedish @ 5.15
17 93% Greek + 7% Danish @ 5.15
18 93.2% Greek + 6.8% West_Scottish @ 5.15
19 93.3% Greek + 6.7% Irish @ 5.2
20 92.3% Greek + 7.7% German @ 5.22


You should hide your results in case Kastrioti sees them. He will kick you over the border.

[cally]

Interesting results thanks for sharing. You are Gheg correct?

yeah :) no problem!

[Black Wolf]

yeah :) no problem!

And I also see that your mtDNA haplogroup is U4. Welcome to the mtDNA haplogroup U family! :D

[cally]

And I also see that your mtDNA haplogroup is U4. Welcome to the mtDNA haplogroup U family! :D

Aww thank you!:D

[cally]

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 23.71
2 West_Med 19.44
3 Atlantic 14.42
4 North_Sea 13.97
5 West_Asian 11.2
6 Baltic 9.2
7 Eastern_Euro 6.36
8 Red_Sea 1.71

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek 5.69
2 Tuscan 7.32
3 Ashkenazi 9.76
4 Bulgarian 10.73
5 North_Italian 11.83
6 Romanian 12.51
7 Serbian 15.14
8 Sephardic_Jewish 15.96
9 Portuguese 19.01
10 Spanish_Extremadura 19.32
11 Spanish_Galicia 19.47
12 Spanish_Murcia 19.71
13 Spanish_Andalucia 19.86
14 Spanish_Cataluna 20.24
15 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 20.67
16 Spanish_Valencia 20.97
17 Cyprian 21.88
18 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 22.12
19 Austrian 22.12
20 French 22.3

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 61.8% Greek + 38.2% Tuscan @ 4.39
2 76.4% Greek + 23.6% North_Italian @ 4.59
3 85.1% Greek + 14.9% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.63
4 85.4% Greek + 14.6% Portuguese @ 4.74
5 87.9% Greek + 12.1% French @ 4.84
6 86.9% Greek + 13.1% Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.94
7 87.4% Greek + 12.6% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.95
8 92.4% Greek + 7.6% Orcadian @ 4.97
9 87.3% Greek + 12.7% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.98
10 91.7% Greek + 8.3% Southwest_English @ 5
11 92.7% Greek + 7.3% Norwegian @ 5.06
12 92.2% Greek + 7.8% Dutch @ 5.06
13 88.7% Greek + 11.3% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 5.09
14 92.4% Greek + 7.6% Southeast_English @ 5.09
15 90.3% Greek + 9.7% Spanish_Cantabria @ 5.14
16 93.3% Greek + 6.7% Swedish @ 5.15
17 93% Greek + 7% Danish @ 5.15
18 93.2% Greek + 6.8% West_Scottish @ 5.15
19 93.3% Greek + 6.7% Irish @ 5.2
20 92.3% Greek + 7.7% German @ 5.22

Different oracle:
Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.5% Greek + 28.5% North_Italian @ 5.13
2 84.7% Greek + 15.3% Southwest_French @ 5.18
3 82.4% Greek + 17.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 5.21
4 83% Greek + 17% Spanish_Cataluna @ 5.29
5 56.5% Bulgarian + 43.5% South_Italian @ 5.3
6 77.6% Greek + 22.4% Serbian @ 5.37
7 67% Greek + 33% Bulgarian @ 5.37
8 84.8% Greek + 15.2% Spanish_Cantabria @ 5.38
9 84% Greek + 16% Austrian @ 5.41
10 82.2% Greek + 17.8% Portuguese @ 5.42
11 72% Greek + 28% Romanian @ 5.43
12 83.8% Greek + 16.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 5.45
13 84.4% Greek + 15.6% Hungarian @ 5.46
14 83.2% Greek + 16.8% Spanish_Galicia @ 5.48
15 84.7% Greek + 15.3% French @ 5.49
16 90.1% Greek + 9.9% Southwest_Finnish @ 5.51
17 83.5% Greek + 16.5% Spanish_Murcia @ 5.53
18 88.7% Greek + 11.3% Southeast_English @ 5.55
19 86% Greek + 14% Spanish_Aragon @ 5.56
20 88.2% Greek + 11.8% Polish @ 5.57

[Black Wolf]

Different oracle:
Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.5% Greek + 28.5% North_Italian @ 5.13
2 84.7% Greek + 15.3% Southwest_French @ 5.18
3 82.4% Greek + 17.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 5.21
4 83% Greek + 17% Spanish_Cataluna @ 5.29
5 56.5% Bulgarian + 43.5% South_Italian @ 5.3
6 77.6% Greek + 22.4% Serbian @ 5.37
7 67% Greek + 33% Bulgarian @ 5.37
8 84.8% Greek + 15.2% Spanish_Cantabria @ 5.38
9 84% Greek + 16% Austrian @ 5.41
10 82.2% Greek + 17.8% Portuguese @ 5.42
11 72% Greek + 28% Romanian @ 5.43
12 83.8% Greek + 16.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 5.45
13 84.4% Greek + 15.6% Hungarian @ 5.46
14 83.2% Greek + 16.8% Spanish_Galicia @ 5.48
15 84.7% Greek + 15.3% French @ 5.49
16 90.1% Greek + 9.9% Southwest_Finnish @ 5.51
17 83.5% Greek + 16.5% Spanish_Murcia @ 5.53
18 88.7% Greek + 11.3% Southeast_English @ 5.55
19 86% Greek + 14% Spanish_Aragon @ 5.56
20 88.2% Greek + 11.8% Polish @ 5.57

Again very Mediterranean. Interesting stuff.

[Black Wolf]

Aww thank you!:D

callmyname you should also post your Eurogenes EUtest calculator results from GEDmatch. It would be interesting to compare yours with Stefan_Dusan's since you are both from Kosovo but you are Albanian while he is Serb.

[cally]

callmyname you should also post your Eurogenes EUtest calculator results from GEDmatch. It would be interesting to compare yours with Stefan_Dusan's since you are both from Kosovo but you are Albanian while he is Serb.

True I will message him. it would be interesting to compare :)

[Kastrioti1443]

You should hide your results in case Kastrioti sees them. He will kick you over the border.

Genotype=/= phenotype and pigementation as we can clearly see it with callmyname. The same thing is with Duskfall and Vogon Poet who are both Nordo CM and Geni. These genetic results do not apply on albanians.

[HellLander87]

callmyname you should also post your Eurogenes EUtest calculator results from GEDmatch. It would be interesting to compare yours with Stefan_Dusan's since you are both from Kosovo but you are Albanian while he is Serb.


1 East_Med 23.71
2 West_Med 19.44
3 Atlantic 14.42
4 North_Sea 13.97
5 West_Asian 11.2
6 Baltic 9.2
7 Eastern_Euro 6.36
8 Red_Sea 1.71

A Serbian's from kosovo results
1 Baltic 18.58
2 Atlantic 16.52
3 North_Sea 15.43
4 Eastern_Euro 14.08
5 West_Med 13.86
6 East_Med 11.37
7 West_Asian 7.8
8 Red_Sea 1.8
9 Northeast_African 0.56

[Wulf Talented]

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 44.37
2 Atlantic 20.62
3 Baltic 9.3
4 West_Med 8.87
5 Eastern_Euro 7.96
6 West_Asian 4.8
7 Red_Sea 1.32
8 Amerindian 0.72
9 East_Med 0.66
10 Oceanian 0.48
11 Siberian 0.38
12 Northeast_African 0.32
13 South_Asian 0.2

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Orcadian 7.1
2 Norwegian 7.36
3 Dutch 8.57
4 Swedish 8.59
5 Danish 10.57
6 West_Scottish 10.73
7 Southwest_English 10.92
8 Southeast_English 11.17
9 Irish 11.32
10 German 12.17
11 North_Swedish 12.18
12 French 16.67
13 Southwest_Finnish 19.51
14 Hungarian 21.03
15 Finnish 21.26
16 Austrian 23.03
17 Spanish_Galicia 23.6
18 Spanish_Cataluna 24.94
19 Portuguese 25.2
20 Serbian 25.23

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.2% Orcadian + 40.8% Norwegian @ 6.86
2 97.8% Orcadian + 2.2% Abhkasian @ 6.96
3 78.3% Orcadian + 21.7% Swedish @ 6.96
4 97.7% Orcadian + 2.3% Georgian @ 6.96
5 97.4% Orcadian + 2.6% Lezgin @ 6.98
6 97.5% Orcadian + 2.5% Chechen @ 6.99
7 97.6% Orcadian + 2.4% Kumyk @ 7
8 97.8% Orcadian + 2.2% Balkar @ 7.01
9 97.9% Orcadian + 2.1% North_Ossetian @ 7.01
10 98% Orcadian + 2% Armenian @ 7.01
11 98% Orcadian + 2% Adygei @ 7.01
12 98.6% Orcadian + 1.4% Assyrian @ 7.05
13 98.8% Orcadian + 1.2% Makrani @ 7.07
14 98.8% Orcadian + 1.2% Iranian @ 7.07
15 98.8% Orcadian + 1.2% Brahui @ 7.07
16 98.6% Orcadian + 1.4% Nogay @ 7.07
17 98.9% Orcadian + 1.1% Balochi @ 7.07
18 98.9% Orcadian + 1.1% Syrian @ 7.07
19 98.9% Orcadian + 1.1% Kurdish @ 7.07
20 99% Orcadian + 1% Lebanese_Christian @ 7.07

Oracle 4

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 45.63
2 Atlantic 21.21
3 Baltic 9.56
4 West_Med 9.12
5 Eastern_Euro 8.19
6 West_Asian 4.94
7 Red_Sea 1.36


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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Orcadian @ 8.708
2 Norwegian @ 9.108
3 Swedish @ 10.456
4 Dutch @ 10.741
5 Danish @ 12.920
6 West_Scottish @ 12.936
7 Southwest_English @ 13.363
8 Irish @ 13.686
9 Southeast_English @ 13.702
10 North_Swedish @ 14.753
165 iterations.



Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Norwegian +50% Orcadian @ 8.522
2 50% Orcadian +50% Orcadian @ 8.708
3 50% Orcadian +50% Swedish @ 8.887
4 50% Norwegian +50% Norwegian @ 9.108
5 50% Dutch +50% Orcadian @ 9.489
6 50% Dutch +50% Norwegian @ 9.659
7 50% Norwegian +50% Swedish @ 9.700
8 50% Dutch +50% Swedish @ 10.112
9 50% Norwegian +50% Southwest_English @ 10.263
10 50% Norwegian +50% West_Scottish @ 10.358
13695 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Orcadian +25% Norwegian +25% Orcadian @ 8.517
2 50% Norwegian +25% Orcadian +25% Orcadian @ 8.522
3 50% Orcadian +25% Norwegian +25% Norwegian @ 8.522
4 50% Orcadian +25% Orcadian +25% Swedish @ 8.603
5 50% Orcadian +25% Norwegian +25% Swedish @ 8.677
6 50% Orcadian +25% Orcadian +25% Orcadian @ 8.708
7 50% Norwegian +25% Norwegian +25% Orcadian @ 8.724
8 50% Orcadian +25% Swedish +25% Swedish @ 8.887
9 50% Swedish +25% Orcadian +25% Orcadian @ 8.887
10 50% Orcadian +25% Dutch +25% Norwegian @ 8.937
639768 iterations.



Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Norwegian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 8.517
2 Norwegian + Norwegian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 8.522
3 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Swedish @ 8.603
4 Norwegian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Swedish @ 8.677
5 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 8.708
6 Norwegian + Norwegian + Norwegian + Orcadian @ 8.724
7 Orcadian + Orcadian + Swedish + Swedish @ 8.887
8 Dutch + Norwegian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 8.937
9 Norwegian + Norwegian + Orcadian + Swedish @ 8.942
10 Dutch + Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 9.030
11 Dutch + Norwegian + Norwegian + Orcadian @ 9.032
12 Dutch + Orcadian + Orcadian + Swedish @ 9.055
13 Norwegian + Norwegian + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 9.108
14 Norwegian + Orcadian + Swedish + Swedish @ 9.211
15 Dutch + Norwegian + Orcadian + Swedish @ 9.213
16 Norwegian + Norwegian + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 9.261
17 Dutch + Norwegian + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 9.309
18 North_Swedish + Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 9.331
19 Norwegian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 9.334
20 Norwegian + Norwegian + Norwegian + Southwest_English @ 9.369

4255166 iterations.

Done.

Oracle -x

Admix Results:

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 44.37
2 Atlantic 20.62
3 Baltic 9.30
4 Eastern_Euro 7.96
5 West_Med 8.87
6 West_Asian 4.80
7 East_Med 0.66
8 Red_Sea 1.32
9 South_Asian 0.20
10 Southeast_Asian 0.00
11 Siberian 0.38
12 Amerindian 0.72
13 Oceanian 0.48
14 Northeast_African 0.32
15 Sub-Saharan 0.00


Pct. Calc. Option 2

1 Orcadian 74.56%
2 Norwegian 9.86%
3 Swedish 5.02%
4 Abhkasian 4.04%
5 Dutch 3.91%
6 North_Swedish 2.49%
7 Southwest_English 0.11%
8 Lezgin 0.00%
9 Georgian 0.00%
10 French 0.00%

Total RMSD: 2.195831

[cally]

A Serbian's from kosovo results
1 Baltic 18.58
2 Atlantic 16.52
3 North_Sea 15.43
4 Eastern_Euro 14.08
5 West_Med 13.86
6 East_Med 11.37
7 West_Asian 7.8
8 Red_Sea 1.8
9 Northeast_African 0.56

Thanks!

It seems Kosovo Albanians cluster with Tuscans and Greeks - not sure how reliable all this is

[Black Wolf]

A Serbian's from kosovo results
1 Baltic 18.58
2 Atlantic 16.52
3 North_Sea 15.43
4 Eastern_Euro 14.08
5 West_Med 13.86
6 East_Med 11.37
7 West_Asian 7.8
8 Red_Sea 1.8
9 Northeast_African 0.56

Very interesting. Shows you how different Albanians and Serbs from Kosovo are from each other. Albanians are much more Mediterranean while Serbs are more Northern/Eastern European.

[Atlantic Islander]

^^ Eurogenes plots become more and more ludicrous with the time. They started by copying Dough McDonald plots and soon they will show Africans in the European plot. Ludicrous.


Whatever. I still see plots from peer reviewed studies as much more reliable.

:rolleyes2:

[Atlantic Islander]

I want to see more Iberian results please. :icon_ask::puppy_dp:

[MfA_]

I want to see more Iberian results please. :icon_ask::puppy_dp:

Iberians, I've fround on 23andMe.

Portuguese 1
North_Sea 19.24%
Atlantic 28.88%
Baltic 3.69%
Eastern_Euro 4.48%
West_Med 25.20%
West_Asian -
East_Med 10.59%
Red_Sea 3.24%
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian 0.22%
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.38%
Northeast_African 1.84%
Sub-Saharan 2.25%

Oracle

# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Extremadura 4.97
2 Spanish_Murcia 5.41
3 Portuguese 5.5
4 Spanish_Cantabria 5.73
5 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 6.15
6 Spanish_Andalucia 6.25
7 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 6.32
8 Spanish_Valencia 6.45
9 Spanish_Cataluna 6.74
10 Spanish_Aragon 6.99
11 Spanish_Galicia 7.08
12 Southwest_French 8.26
13 North_Italian 10.47
14 French 14.02
15 Tuscan 16.26
16 French_Basque 16.32
17 Serbian 21.47
18 Southwest_English 21.53
19 German 22.41
20 Austrian 22.65

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.3% Spanish_Cantabria + 12.7% Algerian @ 3.5
2 87.3% Spanish_Cantabria + 12.7% Mozabite_Berber @ 3.59
3 87.8% Spanish_Cantabria + 12.2% Moroccan @ 3.69
4 89.3% Spanish_Extremadura + 10.7% Sardinian @ 3.9
5 87.5% Spanish_Murcia + 12.5% Sardinian @ 3.99
6 91.7% Spanish_Cantabria + 8.3% Egyptian @ 4.16
7 87.9% Portuguese + 12.1% Sardinian @ 4.22
8 93.9% Spanish_Cantabria + 6.1% Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.42
9 85% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + 15% Sardinian @ 4.44
10 62.6% Spanish_Extremadura + 37.4% Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.49
11 83.7% Spanish_Cataluna + 16.3% Sardinian @ 4.53
12 63.4% Portuguese + 36.6% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.58
13 92.9% Spanish_Cantabria + 7.1% Palestinian @ 4.59
14 93% Spanish_Cantabria + 7% Samaritan @ 4.62
15 92.9% Spanish_Cantabria + 7.1% Jordanian @ 4.63
16 92.9% Spanish_Cantabria + 7.1% Bedouin @ 4.64
17 53.3% Portuguese + 46.7% Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.65
18 58.9% Portuguese + 41.1% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.69
19 90.2% Spanish_Cantabria + 9.8% Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.71
20 94.3% Spanish_Cantabria + 5.7% Saudi @ 4.71

Portuguese 2
North_Sea 19.39%
Atlantic 28.03%
Baltic 5.72%
Eastern_Euro 4.91%
West_Med 22.86%
West_Asian 4.09%
East_Med 7.31%
Red_Sea 4.14%
South_Asian 1.20%
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 1.22%
Sub-Saharan 1.13%

Oracle
# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Extremadura 3.75
2 Portuguese 4.12
3 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 4.38
4 Spanish_Cantabria 4.42
5 Spanish_Cataluna 4.76
6 Spanish_Galicia 4.94
7 Spanish_Murcia 5.26
8 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 5.34
9 Spanish_Andalucia 6.03
10 Spanish_Valencia 6.17
11 Southwest_French 6.76
12 Spanish_Aragon 7.07
13 North_Italian 9.18
14 French 10.74
15 Tuscan 15.29
16 French_Basque 16.41
17 Serbian 18.3
18 Southwest_English 18.7
19 German 18.99
20 Austrian 19.08

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 92.8% Spanish_Cantabria + 7.2% Iranian @ 2.48
2 87.7% Spanish_Cantabria + 12.3% Ashkenazi @ 2.5
3 93.4% Spanish_Cantabria + 6.6% Makrani @ 2.6
4 92.9% Spanish_Cantabria + 7.1% Kurdish @ 2.65
5 92.2% Spanish_Cantabria + 7.8% Syrian @ 2.66
6 52.7% Spanish_Galicia + 47.3% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.69
7 91.7% Spanish_Cantabria + 8.3% Turkish @ 2.7
8 93.7% Spanish_Cantabria + 6.3% Brahui @ 2.7
9 92.6% Spanish_Cantabria + 7.4% Kumyk @ 2.7
10 93.6% Spanish_Cantabria + 6.4% Balochi @ 2.71
11 92.7% Spanish_Cantabria + 7.3% Bedouin @ 2.71
12 93.1% Spanish_Cantabria + 6.9% Armenian @ 2.74
13 93.1% Spanish_Cantabria + 6.9% Lezgin @ 2.75
14 92.3% Spanish_Cantabria + 7.7% Tadjik @ 2.76
15 54.3% Spanish_Cantabria + 45.7% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.76
16 93.1% Spanish_Cantabria + 6.9% Assyrian @ 2.77
17 92.8% Spanish_Cantabria + 7.2% Jordanian @ 2.81
18 92.6% Spanish_Cantabria + 7.4% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.85
19 53.3% Portuguese + 46.7% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.88
20 85.3% Spanish_Cantabria + 14.7% Romanian @ 2.89

Spanish 1
North_Sea 19.17%
Atlantic 28.50%
Baltic 6.74%
Eastern_Euro 5.91%
West_Med 24.19%
West_Asian 0.26%
East_Med 9.18%
Red_Sea 2.57%
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 0.20%
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.75%
Northeast_African 2.55%
Sub-Saharan -

Oracle
# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Cantabria 4.87
2 Portuguese 4.91
3 Spanish_Extremadura 5.33
4 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 5.37
5 Spanish_Cataluna 5.52
6 Spanish_Murcia 5.61
7 Spanish_Valencia 6.05
8 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 6.07
9 Spanish_Andalucia 6.26
10 Spanish_Galicia 6.32
11 Southwest_French 6.41
12 Spanish_Aragon 6.98
13 North_Italian 10.12
14 French 12.39
15 French_Basque 16.21
16 Tuscan 16.34
17 Serbian 19.22
18 Southwest_English 19.82
19 Austrian 19.83
20 German 20.23

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 61% Portuguese + 39% Southwest_French @ 3.51
2 50.6% Spanish_Cantabria + 49.4% Portuguese @ 3.74
3 91.5% Spanish_Cantabria + 8.5% Algerian @ 3.82
4 91.6% Spanish_Cantabria + 8.4% Moroccan @ 3.83
5 93.7% Spanish_Cantabria + 6.3% Egyptian @ 3.84
6 95.2% Spanish_Cantabria + 4.8% Yemenite_Jewish @ 3.95
7 95.8% Spanish_Cantabria + 4.2% Ethiopian_Tigray @ 3.95
8 50.6% Spanish_Galicia + 49.4% Southwest_French @ 3.97
9 90.5% Spanish_Cantabria + 9.5% Ashkenazi @ 3.98
10 96% Spanish_Cantabria + 4% Ethiopian_Amhara @ 4.01
11 89.2% Spanish_Cantabria + 10.8% Greek @ 4.01
12 92.2% Spanish_Cantabria + 7.8% Mozabite_Berber @ 4.03
13 94.3% Spanish_Cantabria + 5.7% Jordanian @ 4.04
14 64.2% Spanish_Cantabria + 35.8% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.05
15 94.4% Spanish_Cantabria + 5.6% Palestinian @ 4.05
16 77.6% Spanish_Cantabria + 22.4% North_Italian @ 4.07
17 94.4% Spanish_Cantabria + 5.6% Bedouin @ 4.08
18 85.2% Portuguese + 14.8% French_Basque @ 4.08
19 94.5% Spanish_Cantabria + 5.5% Samaritan @ 4.09
20 87.9% Spanish_Cataluna + 12.1% Sardinian @ 4.11

Spanish 2
North_Sea 20.81%
Atlantic 32.11%
Baltic 5.24%
Eastern_Euro 5.70%
West_Med 19.83%
West_Asian -
East_Med 14.04%
Red_Sea 1.10%
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.32%
Sub-Saharan 0.84%

Oracle
# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Murcia 5.02
2 Spanish_Valencia 5.38
3 Spanish_Cataluna 5.61
4 Spanish_Extremadura 6.62
5 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 6.74
6 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 6.88
7 Spanish_Aragon 7.22
8 Portuguese 7.29
9 Spanish_Andalucia 7.4
10 Spanish_Cantabria 7.88
11 Southwest_French 8.67
12 Spanish_Galicia 9.19
13 North_Italian 10.67
14 French 12.12
15 French_Basque 16.15
16 Tuscan 16.16
17 Southwest_English 18.84
18 German 19.49
19 Serbian 19.64
20 Southeast_English 19.67

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 90.1% Spanish_Valencia + 9.9% Orcadian @ 4.71
2 89.4% Spanish_Valencia + 10.6% Danish @ 4.75
3 91% Spanish_Valencia + 9% Norwegian @ 4.76
4 61.6% Spanish_Murcia + 38.4% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.77
5 91.7% Spanish_Valencia + 8.3% North_Swedish @ 4.78
6 88.7% Spanish_Valencia + 11.3% Southeast_English @ 4.8
7 91.6% Spanish_Valencia + 8.4% Swedish @ 4.81
8 90% Spanish_Valencia + 10% West_Scottish @ 4.81
9 90% Spanish_Valencia + 10% Dutch @ 4.82
10 94.7% Spanish_Murcia + 5.3% Danish @ 4.87
11 90.3% Spanish_Valencia + 9.7% Irish @ 4.88
12 94.4% Spanish_Murcia + 5.6% Southeast_English @ 4.89
13 95.1% Spanish_Murcia + 4.9% West_Scottish @ 4.89
14 89.1% Spanish_Valencia + 10.9% Southwest_English @ 4.89
15 96.3% Spanish_Murcia + 3.7% Southwest_Finnish @ 4.91
16 95.3% Spanish_Murcia + 4.7% Irish @ 4.91
17 96.5% Spanish_Murcia + 3.5% North_Swedish @ 4.92
18 96.1% Spanish_Murcia + 3.9% Orcadian @ 4.92
19 74.6% Spanish_Murcia + 25.4% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.93
20 55.4% Spanish_Valencia + 44.6% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.93

[Atlantic Islander]

Iberians, I've fround on 23andMe.

Nice, good! Now we need Ibericus, Gaita, and Kadu to post. :)

[cally]

Very interesting. Shows you how different Albanians and Serbs from Kosovo are from each other. Albanians are much more Mediterranean while Serbs are more Northern/Eastern European.

well it makes sense since we are more native :)

[Black Wolf]

well it makes sense since we are more native :)

Well yes that is exactly it really. You can see from your results that Albanians are mainly the descendants of the ancient Illyrians and pre-Slavic peoples of the Balkans while the Serb fellow's results clearly show him to have Slavic ancestry that came to the Balkans from the north more recently.

[Prince Carlo]

:rolleyes2:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?96710-Post-your-Eurogenes-EUtest-V2-K15-results/page7&p=1974059#post1974059
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?102824-north-vs-south-why-the-hate&p=2122648&viewfull=1#post2122648.

2.94 SSA (North East African + Sub Saharan) in you vs 0% here.

The difference is all there.

[Atlantic Islander]

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?96710-Post-your-Eurogenes-EUtest-V2-K15-results/page7&p=1974059#post1974059
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?102824-north-vs-south-why-the-hate&p=2122648&viewfull=1#post2122648.

2.94 SSA (North East African + Sub Saharan) in you vs 0% here.

The difference is all there.

And? I'm supposed to be bothered? Lmao at you.

[Damião de Góis]

And? I'm supposed to be bothered? Lmao at you.

What's this? Joseph Capelli criticizing Eurogenes plots and then getting back at you with an Eurogenes run?

[Ibericus]

Nice, good! Now we need Ibericus, Gaita, and Kadu to post. :)
I posted mine on the first pages :

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?96710-Post-your-Eurogenes-EUtest-V2-K15-results&p=1973227&viewfull=1#post1973227

[Atlantic Islander]

I posted mine on the first pages :

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?96710-Post-your-Eurogenes-EUtest-V2-K15-results&p=1973227&viewfull=1#post1973227

Ah, I didn't see it. How about mixed mode, pleeeease?

[Atlantic Islander]

What's this? Joseph Capelli criticizing Eurogenes plots and then getting back at you with an Eurogenes run?

He's so ridiculous, it's too funny.

[Oneeye]

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 44.37
2 Atlantic 20.62
3 Baltic 9.3
4 West_Med 8.87
5 Eastern_Euro 7.96
6 West_Asian 4.8
7 Red_Sea 1.32
8 Amerindian 0.72
9 East_Med 0.66
10 Oceanian 0.48
11 Siberian 0.38
12 Northeast_African 0.32
13 South_Asian 0.2




Interesting. You have Slavic ancestry listed (Is it all Polish?), and yet your Baltic and East Euro scores are not any higher than mine. It's like it all went to North Sea.

[Hevo]

Interesting. You have Slavic ancestry listed (Is it all Polish?), and yet your Baltic and East Euro scores are not any higher than mine. It's like it all went to North Sea.

Indeed, highest North Sea score i have ever seen before, he should be the leader of the North Sea tribe.:P

[Heiden]

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 37.69
2 Atlantic 25.04
3 Baltic 14.52
4 Eastern_Euro 13.29
5 West_Med 4.4
6 Siberian 1.16
7 Amerindian 1.09
8 East_Med 0.99
9 Oceanian 0.87
10 West_Asian 0.67
11 Northeast_African 0.27

# Population (source) Distance
1 Norwegian 3.9
2 Swedish 4.04
3 North_Swedish 4.48
4 Dutch 5.92
5 Orcadian 6.61
6 Danish 6.83
7 West_Scottish 7.81
8 Irish 8.15
9 German 8.75
10 Southeast_English 8.94
11 Southwest_English 10.08
12 Southwest_Finnish 10.57
13 Finnish 13.47
14 Hungarian 16.51
15 French 16.67
16 Austrian 17.23
17 East_Finnish 18.55
18 Estonian 19.15
19 Polish 19.81
20 Ukrainian 20.6

[Wulf Talented]

Interesting. You have Slavic ancestry listed (Is it all Polish?), and yet your Baltic and East Euro scores are not any higher than mine. It's like it all went to North Sea.

Well this is where it gets interesting, My East Euro barely shows on 23andMe, in fact it comes up on speculative as just 0.5% and disappears on the 2 other modes, my only conclusion is that the 10% percent on standard mode is the Polish hiding under 'nonspecific European' because 23andMe don't reference a Polish population on their ancestry composition map. only state that they have samples from the Poland under their East European label. Bare in mind the Polish ancestry is a Great Grandfather, so in theory I would inherit roughly 12.5%?? of his genome, I think.

As for it being all Polish, I've no idea. That's why I decided to take DNA tests. To try and determine the Polish ancestry, and that ancestors genetic make up. Perhaps I'm just unfortunate and that where my Polish ancestry pulls me closer to Germanic populations, it throws the ancestry under North Sea?

[Oneeye]

Well this is where it gets interesting, My East Euro barely shows on 23andMe, in fact it comes up on speculative as just 0.5% and disappears on the 2 other modes, my only conclusion is that the 10% percent on standard mode is the Polish hiding under 'nonspecific European' because 23andMe don't reference a Polish population on their ancestry composition map. only state that they have samples from the Poland under their East European label. Bare in mind the Polish ancestry is a Great Grandfather, so in theory I would inherit roughly 12.5%?? of his genome, I think.

As for it being all Polish, I've no idea. That's why I decided to take DNA tests. To try and determine the Polish ancestry, and that ancestors genetic make up. Perhaps I'm just unfortunate and that where my Polish ancestry pulls me closer to Germanic populations, it throws the ancestry under North Sea?


I see. I assumed you had a higher % of Polish or whatnot. It's that your North Sea score is the highest so far, and that component seems to peak in Scots. I have come to the conclusion that you are Rig reborn.

[Black Wolf]

Thanks!

It seems Kosovo Albanians cluster with Tuscans and Greeks - not sure how reliable all this is

Indeed it is quite reliable. Polako has done a very good job with his calculators. This just shows what I have expected all along. It goes along well with Albanian Y-DNA as well. Albanians essentially are a Mediterranean population genetically. That is Neolithic.

[Wulf Talented]

I see. I assumed you had a higher % of Polish or whatnot. It's that your North Sea score is the highest so far, and that component seems to peak in Scots. I have come to the conclusion that you are Rig reborn.

The Polish ancestor was from Warsaw, but whether he was full blooded Polish or etc is still yet to be determined and that's what I'm trying to find out, there's also no reported Ashkenazi in me either.
As for my High North Sea, either it's wrong by calculator fault, the Polish is being thrown into North Sea... Or it's right and I'm just a rare individual with a ridiculously high North Sea result.

My ancestry turned from being a rare surprise to a nightmare, lol.

[Prince Carlo]

What's this? Joseph Capelli criticizing Polako's plots and then getting back at you with an Eurogenes run?

Fixed.

[Atlantic Islander]

Fixed.

You are such a try hard.

[Graham]

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek 5.69
2 Tuscan 7.32


Most Albanians I've seen cluster with Greeks away from Serbs and Bosniaks who are closer to each other.

[Prince Carlo]

You are such a try hard.

Comparing people from my area alone is such a bad thing to do. LOL?

Polako is still an amateur, so I am free to criticize his work.

[Atlantic Islander]

Comparing people from my area alone is such a bad thing to do. LOL?

Polako is still an amateur, so I am free to criticize his work.

You criticize it because it doesn't help further whatever agenda you have.

[Prince Carlo]

You criticize it because it doesn't help further whatever agenda you have.

Ok fine with that. Just accept that people from my area are 0% ssa and we are fine.

[Atlantic Islander]

Ok fine with that. Just accept that people from my area are 0% ssa and we are fine.

Nobody cares, because it doesn't matter.

[safinator]

Most Albanians I've seen cluster with Greeks away from Serbs and Bosniaks who are closer to each other.

This are the top 3 population fits results of 14 Albanians through Oracle in EUtest V2k15

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tuscan 7.65
2 Greek 7.98
3 Ashkenazi 10.63


# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek 8.99
2 Ashkenazi 9.51
3 Tuscan 11.26


# Population (source) Distance
1 Tuscan 6.38
2 Greek 8.13
3 North_Italian 8.28


# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek 7.42
2 Bulgarian 7.95
3 Tuscan 9.45


# Population (source) Distance
1 Tuscan 6.67
2 Greek 7.82
3 Bulgarian 8.54


# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek 5.15
2 Bulgarian 6.4
3 Romanian 8.43


# Population (source) Distance
1 Tuscan 8.5
2 Greek 8.68
3 Bulgarian 9.66


# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek 6.9
2 Tuscan 7.63
3 Ashkenazi 9.14


# Population (source) Distance
1 Tuscan 7.71
2 Greek 9.16
3 Ashkenazi 10.38


# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek 5.93
2 Bulgarian 7.52
3 Tuscan 9.01


# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 6
2 Greek 6.86
3 Romanian 7.59


# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek 5.28
2 Bulgarian 7.53
3 Tuscan 7.91


# Population (source) Distance
1 Tuscan 6.98
2 Bulgarian 7.94
3 Greek 8.1


# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek 5.38
2 Tuscan 5.65
3 Bulgarian 8.57

[Prince Carlo]

Nobody cares, because it doesn't matter.

Translated

"I know that you are right but I am too much butthurt to admit it".

[Atlantic Islander]

Translated

"I know that you are right but I am too much butthurt to admit it".

Lmao, the only one pressed, is you.

[Drawing-slim]

I'm not even gonna pretend to know what all this means?!

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 17.9
2 West_Med 17.13
3 North_Sea 15.99
4 Atlantic 15.88
5 West_Asian 12.76
6 Baltic 10.23
7 Eastern_Euro 5.62
8 Red_Sea 4.5

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tuscan 6.98
2 Bulgarian 7.94
3 Greek 8.1
4 Romanian 8.58
5 North_Italian 9.99
6 Serbian 11.26
7 Ashkenazi 11.45
8 Portuguese 16.29
9 Spanish_Galicia 16.34
10 Spanish_Extremadura 16.65
11 Spanish_Murcia 17.4
12 Spanish_Cataluna 17.47
13 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 17.7
14 Spanish_Andalucia 17.95
15 Austrian 18.02
16 French 18.15
17 Hungarian 18.33
18 Sephardic_Jewish 18.87
19 Spanish_Valencia 18.91
20 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 19.7

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.1% Tuscan + 43.9% Romanian @ 3.07
2 54.2% Tuscan + 45.8% Bulgarian @ 3.51
3 71.5% Greek + 28.5% French @ 3.97
4 65% Tuscan + 35% Serbian @ 4.09
5 81.6% Tuscan + 18.4% Ukrainian_West @ 4.18
6 83.8% Tuscan + 16.2% Ukrainian_Northeast @ 4.22
7 79% Greek + 21% Southwest_English @ 4.28
8 81.2% Greek + 18.8% Orcadian @ 4.29
9 82.5% Tuscan + 17.5% Ukrainian @ 4.33
10 79.6% Greek + 20.4% Dutch @ 4.36
11 86% Tuscan + 14% Erzya @ 4.37
12 84% Tuscan + 16% Russian @ 4.38
13 82.6% Tuscan + 17.4% Polish @ 4.49
14 81.4% Greek + 18.6% Norwegian @ 4.52
15 77% Tuscan + 23% Hungarian @ 4.53
16 77.2% Greek + 22.8% German @ 4.55
17 79.9% Greek + 20.1% Southeast_English @ 4.57
18 81.3% Greek + 18.7% West_Scottish @ 4.61
19 86.2% Tuscan + 13.8% Estonian @ 4.61
20 86.8% Tuscan + 13.2% Lithuanian @ 4.64

[Jackson]

I'm not even gonna pretend to know what all this means?!

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 17.9
2 West_Med 17.13
3 North_Sea 15.99
4 Atlantic 15.88
5 West_Asian 12.76
6 Baltic 10.23
7 Eastern_Euro 5.62
8 Red_Sea 4.5

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tuscan 6.98
2 Bulgarian 7.94
3 Greek 8.1
4 Romanian 8.58
5 North_Italian 9.99
6 Serbian 11.26
7 Ashkenazi 11.45
8 Portuguese 16.29
9 Spanish_Galicia 16.34
10 Spanish_Extremadura 16.65
11 Spanish_Murcia 17.4
12 Spanish_Cataluna 17.47
13 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 17.7
14 Spanish_Andalucia 17.95
15 Austrian 18.02
16 French 18.15
17 Hungarian 18.33
18 Sephardic_Jewish 18.87
19 Spanish_Valencia 18.91
20 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 19.7

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.1% Tuscan + 43.9% Romanian @ 3.07
2 54.2% Tuscan + 45.8% Bulgarian @ 3.51
3 71.5% Greek + 28.5% French @ 3.97
4 65% Tuscan + 35% Serbian @ 4.09
5 81.6% Tuscan + 18.4% Ukrainian_West @ 4.18
6 83.8% Tuscan + 16.2% Ukrainian_Northeast @ 4.22
7 79% Greek + 21% Southwest_English @ 4.28
8 81.2% Greek + 18.8% Orcadian @ 4.29
9 82.5% Tuscan + 17.5% Ukrainian @ 4.33
10 79.6% Greek + 20.4% Dutch @ 4.36
11 86% Tuscan + 14% Erzya @ 4.37
12 84% Tuscan + 16% Russian @ 4.38
13 82.6% Tuscan + 17.4% Polish @ 4.49
14 81.4% Greek + 18.6% Norwegian @ 4.52
15 77% Tuscan + 23% Hungarian @ 4.53
16 77.2% Greek + 22.8% German @ 4.55
17 79.9% Greek + 20.1% Southeast_English @ 4.57
18 81.3% Greek + 18.7% West_Scottish @ 4.61
19 86.2% Tuscan + 13.8% Estonian @ 4.61
20 86.8% Tuscan + 13.2% Lithuanian @ 4.64

Basically it seems Greek + a pull to the north = Albanian. :)

[Drawing-slim]

Basically it seems Greek + a pull to the north = Albanian. :)

What about all that Tuscan & Spanish Galicia I keep reading??:)

[cally]

What about all that Tuscan & Spanish Galicia I keep reading??:)

These tests are really weird for me ; "Kosovar Albanian" shows up very low down on some calculators

[safinator]

What about all that Tuscan & Spanish Galicia I keep reading??:)

Tuscans have let's say the same degree of Northern-Southern(Take more take less based on the individual) components as Albanians do

[HellLander87]

What about all that Tuscan & Spanish Galicia I keep reading??:)
This mustn't be taken literally.It just shows genetic similarity. If you see results from those regions they ll have similar amounts of these components as you.Your snps are mostly shared with the poplulations you see at the oracle.In general albanians are very similar to Greeks as I have seen.Keep in mind though that the greek median gets altered a bit because there are some rather diverse Greek subgroups. Some Greeks are more northern, some more southern.
Take a look at my uncle's results for example...
1 West_Med 18.03
2 Atlantic 16.85
3 East_Med 15.69
4 North_Sea 15.47
5 Baltic 12.14
6 West_Asian 10.33
7 Eastern_Euro 7.33
8 Red_Sea 4.16


1 Bulgarian 6.56
2 Romanian 6.98
3 Tuscan 8.32
4 Serbian 9.09
5 North_Italian 9.15
6 Greek 9.15
7 Ashkenazi 13.91
8 Spanish_Galicia 14.75
9 Portuguese 14.83
10 Spanish_Extremadura 15.33
11 Austrian 15.59
12 Spanish_Cataluna 15.86
13 Hungarian 16.09
14 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 16.13
15 Spanish_Murcia 16.14
16 Spanish_Andalucia 16.51
17 French 16.75
18 Spanish_Valencia 17.33
19 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 18.24
20 Spanish_Cantabria 18.94



1 74% Tuscan + 26% Ukrainian_West @ 2.69
2 55% Romanian + 45% Tuscan @ 2.73
3 74.9% Tuscan + 25.1% Ukrainian @ 2.75
4 76.9% Tuscan + 23.1% Russian @ 2.75
5 59.5% Bulgarian + 40.5% North_Italian @ 2.8
6 77.2% Tuscan + 22.8% Ukrainian_Northeast @ 2.86
7 83.2% Romanian + 16.8% Sardinian @ 2.92
8 74.8% Tuscan + 25.2% Polish @ 3.1
9 58% Romanian + 42% North_Italian @ 3.15
10 80.2% Tuscan + 19.8% Erzya @ 3.22
11 52.6% Tuscan + 47.4% Serbian @ 3.25
12 80.7% Tuscan + 19.3% Lithuanian @ 3.27
13 78.9% Tuscan + 21.1% Belorussian @ 3.42
14 57.6% Bulgarian + 42.4% Tuscan @ 3.45
15 72% Bulgarian + 28% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.46
16 66% Greek + 34% French @ 3.59
17 79.5% Tuscan + 20.5% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.6
18 72.4% Bulgarian + 27.6% Portuguese @ 3.6
19 73.1% Bulgarian + 26.9% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.61
20 80.5% Tuscan + 19.5% Estonian @ 3.73

[cally]

Sometimes for me Tuscan comes up as #1 sometimes #2 - I am letting it load properly but it keeps changing

[safinator]

In general albanians are very similar to Greeks as I have seen.Keep in mind though that the greek median gets altered a bit because there are some rather diverse Greek subgroups. Some Greeks are more northern, some more southern.


Only to the ones on the mainland, bordering Albania mostly. Do you have Ionian Islanders?

[HellLander87]

Only to the ones on the mainland, bordering Albania mostly. Do you have Ionian Islanders?
No I don't,I think though that they have the same origins as the neighboring mainland populations.
From what I ve seen most mainland Greeks without anatolian Greek or aegean islander ancestry form a homogenous group similar to albanians. Greeks from western greek macedonia, epirus, thessally are a bit more northern than rest and but the more southern Greeks are close to them too except maybe from some peloponnesians.
From what I noticed btw my results(I am from thessaly) are more like kosovar albanians' results rather than the albanians from albania. That's due to higher eastern euro values.

[MarkoBravo]

My Results:

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 24.05
2 Atlantic 20.97
3 West_Med 16.41
4 Baltic 11.26
5 West_Asian 9.54
6 Eastern_Euro 9.01
7 East_Med 5.70
8 Red_Sea 1.94
9 South_Asian 1.11

My Sister's Results:

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 25.19
2 Atlantic 18.50
3 West_Med 15.08
4 East_Med 10.52
5 West_Asian 9.87
6 Eastern_Euro 9.71
7 Baltic 9.01
8 Red_Sea 2.13

[Sikeliot]

No I don't,I think though that they have the same origins as the neighboring mainland populations.
From what I ve seen most mainland Greeks without anatolian Greek or aegean islander ancestry form a homogenous group similar to albanians. Greeks from western greek macedonia, epirus, thessally are a bit more northern than rest and but the more southern Greeks are close to them too except maybe from some peloponnesians.
From what I noticed btw my results(I am from thessaly) are more like kosovar albanians' results rather than the albanians from albania. That's due to higher eastern euro values.


I have noticed mainland Greeks all seem to have substantial northern admixture, but of course it decreases as you move south into the Peloponnese. Island Greeks are more or less like southernmost Italians.

[HellLander87]

I have noticed mainland Greeks all seem to have substantial northern admixture, but of course it decreases as you move south into the Peloponnese. Island Greeks are more or less like southernmost Italians.
Yes, genetically "southern" Greeks are like southern italians while the rest are like central and northern Italians with some additional eastern european influences.

[Geni]

Geni results
Admix Results (sorted):


# Population Percent
1 East_Med 23.65
2 North_Sea 18.17
3 West_Med 16.89
4 Atlantic 14.32
5 West_Asian 12.12
6 Baltic 8.35
7 Eastern_Euro 3.25
8 Red_Sea 2.45
9 Amerindian 0.57
10 Oceanian 0.15
11 Southeast_Asian 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tuscan 7.71
2 Greek 9.16
3 Ashkenazi 10.38
4 Bulgarian 12.06
5 North_Italian 12.11
6 Romanian 12.89
7 Serbian 15.26
8 Sephardic_Jewish 16.66
9 Portuguese 18.54
10 Spanish_Galicia 18.79
11 Spanish_Extremadura 19.03
12 Spanish_Murcia 19.36
13 Spanish_Cataluna 19.81
14 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 20.23
15 Spanish_Andalucia 20.42
16 French 20.66
17 Spanish_Valencia 21.25
18 Hungarian 21.74
19 Austrian 21.95
20 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 22.28

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.8% Cyprian + 44.2% Southwest_English @ 5.03
2 52.5% French + 47.5% Cyprian @ 5.09
3 56.5% Cyprian + 43.5% Dutch @ 5.28
4 53.3% Cyprian + 46.7% German @ 5.39
5 56.5% Cyprian + 43.5% Southeast_English @ 5.64
6 58.6% Cyprian + 41.4% Norwegian @ 5.64
7 58.6% Cyprian + 41.4% Orcadian @ 5.64
8 58.6% Cyprian + 41.4% Swedish @ 5.93
9 58% Cyprian + 42% Irish @ 6.01
10 59.8% French + 40.2% Lebanese_Christian @ 6.04
11 58.5% Cyprian + 41.5% West_Scottish @ 6.13
12 57.8% Cyprian + 42.2% Danish @ 6.16
13 70.5% Ashkenazi + 29.5% French @ 6.31
14 61.9% Spanish_Galicia + 38.1% Assyrian @ 6.35
15 77.1% Ashkenazi + 22.9% Southwest_English @ 6.36
16 60.1% French + 39.9% Lebanese_Druze @ 6.37
17 73.6% North_Italian + 26.4% Assyrian @ 6.37
18 77.8% Ashkenazi + 22.2% Southeast_English @ 6.52
19 55.8% Ashkenazi + 44.2% North_Italian @ 6.53
20 66.4% Tuscan + 33.6% Ashkenazi @ 6.54

[cally]

well these tests clearly dont link to phenotype just compare greeks and Kosovars phenotypically

[Prince Carlo]

No Greeks can cluster with North Italians or even the Tuscans. HellLander87 you plot with Alboz and the likes.

[Geni]

The thing that intrigues me is why Albanians are almost all Tuscans ..:confused:,:confused3::noidea:

[HellLander87]

The thing that intrigues me is why Albanians are almost all Tuscans ..:confused:,:confused3::noidea:
Because both populations have predominately neolithic ancestry and both received similar amounts of northern genetical influences.

[Jackson]

Oracle 4 for my family. As the numbers are slightly different from the normal one i'll include them too. It cuts out certain components below a threshold, and seems to put the remainder into the others, so it might be more or less accurate, i don't know.

Here's the full range for each component in my family in this. I bolded the ones that seem to be the 'core' components and are present in every person (in every test too i think):

North Sea 31.50-38.44%
Atlantic 24.19-29.06%
Baltic 9.14-14.34%
Eastern Euro 7.34-9.01%
West Med 7.33-12.11%
East Med 0-4.44%
West Asian 0-8.34%
Red Sea 0-1.72%
South Asian 0-1.81%
Southeast Asian: 0-1.18%

And the average for my whole family:

35.77 North Sea
25.73 Atlantic
12.36 Baltic
8.14 Eastern Euro
9.92 West Med
2.91 East Med
3.55 West Asian
0.72 Red Sea
0.66 South Asian
0.19 Southeast Asian

Me:

34.73 North_Sea
25.01 Atlantic
11.95 Baltic
9.01 Eastern_Euro
8.62 West_Med
4.36 East_Med
3.71 West_Asian
1.72 Red_Sea
0.90 South_Asian

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Dutch @ 3.834
2 German @ 3.846
3 Southeast_English @ 5.897
4 Southwest_English @ 6.018
5 Danish @ 6.080
6 Irish @ 7.092
7 Orcadian @ 7.323
8 West_Scottish @ 7.402
9 Norwegian @ 7.654
10 Swedish @ 8.384
165 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% French +50% Swedish @ 2.301
2 50% Dutch +50% German @ 2.664
3 50% French +50% Norwegian @ 2.896
4 50% German +50% Orcadian @ 3.278
5 50% Danish +50% German @ 3.536
6 50% German +50% Southeast_English @ 3.672
7 50% German +50% Norwegian @ 3.714
8 50% German +50% Southwest_English @ 3.821
9 50% Dutch +50% Dutch @ 3.834
10 50% German +50% German @ 3.846
13695 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Orcadian +25% Irish +25% Serbian @ 1.792
2 50% Orcadian +25% Serbian +25% West_Scottish @ 1.848
3 50% Orcadian +25% Serbian +25% Southeast_English @ 1.903
4 50% Orcadian +25% Orcadian +25% Serbian @ 1.910
5 50% Orcadian +25% Orcadian +25% Romanian @ 1.965
6 50% Orcadian +25% Serbian +25% Southwest_English @ 1.986
7 50% Orcadian +25% Danish +25% Serbian @ 2.025
8 50% Dutch +25% French +25% Swedish @ 2.072
9 50% Norwegian +25% French +25% German @ 2.076
10 50% Swedish +25% North_Italian +25% Orcadian @ 2.078
280924 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 French + German + Orcadian + Swedish @ 1.733
2 Irish + Orcadian + Orcadian + Serbian @ 1.792
3 Orcadian + Orcadian + Serbian + West_Scottish @ 1.848
4 Dutch + French + German + Swedish @ 1.883
5 Danish + French + German + Swedish @ 1.893
6 Orcadian + Orcadian + Serbian + Southeast_English @ 1.903
7 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Serbian @ 1.910
8 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Romanian @ 1.965
9 Orcadian + Orcadian + Serbian + Southwest_English @ 1.986
10 French + German + Norwegian + Swedish @ 2.015
11 Danish + Orcadian + Orcadian + Serbian @ 2.025
12 Dutch + Dutch + French + Swedish @ 2.072
13 French + German + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 2.076
14 North_Italian + Orcadian + Swedish + Swedish @ 2.078
15 Orcadian + Spanish_Extremadura + Swedish + Swedish @ 2.080
16 Dutch + French + German + Norwegian @ 2.083
17 French + German + Swedish + West_Scottish @ 2.109
18 French + German + Norwegian + Orcadian @ 2.109
19 Orcadian + Orcadian + Romanian + West_Scottish @ 2.109
20 Danish + Dutch + French + Swedish @ 2.125

Father:
38.44 North_Sea
25.53 Atlantic
12.21 Baltic
9.49 West_Med
8.53 Eastern_Euro
4.44 East_Med
1.37 Red_Sea

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Dutch @ 5.206
2 Orcadian @ 5.924
3 Norwegian @ 6.844
4 Danish @ 6.918
5 Southeast_English @ 7.056
6 Southwest_English @ 7.197
7 West_Scottish @ 7.614
8 Irish @ 7.788
9 Swedish @ 8.040
10 German @ 8.591
165 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Southwest_English +50% Swedish @ 4.884
2 50% Norwegian +50% Southwest_English @ 4.886
3 50% Dutch +50% Orcadian @ 5.053
4 50% Norwegian +50% Southeast_English @ 5.079
5 50% Southeast_English +50% Swedish @ 5.176
6 50% Dutch +50% Dutch @ 5.206
7 50% Orcadian +50% Southwest_English @ 5.529
8 50% German +50% Orcadian @ 5.567
9 50% Dutch +50% Southeast_English @ 5.571
10 50% Dutch +50% Norwegian @ 5.577
13695 iterations

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Orcadian +25% French +25% Swedish @ 4.272
2 50% Norwegian +25% French +25% Orcadian @ 4.380
3 50% Orcadian +25% French +25% Norwegian @ 4.411
4 50% Orcadian +25% Spanish_Galicia +25% Swedish @ 4.428
5 50% Swedish +25% Orcadian +25% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.448
6 50% Swedish +25% French +25% Orcadian @ 4.493
7 50% Norwegian +25% Orcadian +25% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.502
8 50% Swedish +25% Orcadian +25% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.544
9 50% Swedish +25% Orcadian +25% Portuguese @ 4.596
10 50% Norwegian +25% Orcadian +25% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.641
341716 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 French + Orcadian + Orcadian + Swedish @ 4.272
2 French + Norwegian + Orcadian + Swedish @ 4.379
3 French + Norwegian + Norwegian + Orcadian @ 4.380
4 French + Norwegian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 4.411
5 Norwegian + Orcadian + Spanish_Galicia + Swedish @ 4.417
6 Orcadian + Orcadian + Spanish_Galicia + Swedish @ 4.428
7 Orcadian + Spanish_Galicia + Swedish + Swedish @ 4.448
8 French + Orcadian + Swedish + Swedish @ 4.493
9 Norwegian + Norwegian + Orcadian + Spanish_Galicia @ 4.502
10 Norwegian + Orcadian + Spanish_Cataluna + Swedish @ 4.537
11 Orcadian + Spanish_Cataluna + Swedish + Swedish @ 4.544
12 Norwegian + Orcadian + Portuguese + Swedish @ 4.595
13 Orcadian + Portuguese + Swedish + Swedish @ 4.596
14 Dutch + French + Orcadian + Swedish @ 4.602
15 Norwegian + Norwegian + Orcadian + Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.641
16 Norwegian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Spanish_Galicia @ 4.644
17 Dutch + French + Norwegian + Orcadian @ 4.662
18 French + Norwegian + Swedish + West_Scottish @ 4.684
19 Norwegian + Norwegian + Norwegian + Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.690
20 Norwegian + Orcadian + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Swedish @ 4.694


Grandfather:
38.03 North_Sea
26.04 Atlantic
13.84 Baltic
8.30 Eastern_Euro
7.33 West_Med
4.23 East_Med
2.24 West_Asian

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Dutch @ 4.448
2 Orcadian @ 5.559
3 Norwegian @ 5.847
4 Danish @ 5.958
5 Swedish @ 6.258
6 Irish @ 6.538
7 Southeast_English @ 6.595
8 West_Scottish @ 6.635
9 German @ 7.231
10 Southwest_English @ 7.518
165 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Southeast_English +50% Swedish @ 3.302
2 50% Southwest_English +50% Swedish @ 3.671
3 50% Irish +50% Swedish @ 3.819
4 50% Norwegian +50% Southeast_English @ 4.041
5 50% Swedish +50% West_Scottish @ 4.066
6 50% Danish +50% Swedish @ 4.091
7 50% German +50% Orcadian @ 4.258
8 50% Irish +50% Norwegian @ 4.265
9 50% Dutch +50% Swedish @ 4.401
10 50% Dutch +50% Orcadian @ 4.447
13695 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Southeast_English +25% Swedish +25% Swedish @ 3.302
2 50% Swedish +25% Southeast_English +25% Southeast_English @ 3.302
3 50% Swedish +25% Southeast_English +25% Southwest_English @ 3.424
4 50% Swedish +25% Irish +25% Southeast_English @ 3.499
5 50% Swedish +25% Irish +25% Southwest_English @ 3.534
6 50% Swedish +25% Southeast_English +25% West_Scottish @ 3.615
7 50% Southeast_English +25% Norwegian +25% Swedish @ 3.620
8 50% Swedish +25% Danish +25% Southeast_English @ 3.631
9 50% Swedish +25% German +25% Southeast_English @ 3.632
10 50% Swedish +25% Southwest_English +25% West_Scottish @ 3.635
319240 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Swedish + Swedish @ 3.302
2 Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Swedish + Swedish @ 3.424
3 Irish + Southeast_English + Swedish + Swedish @ 3.499
4 Irish + Southwest_English + Swedish + Swedish @ 3.534
5 Southeast_English + Swedish + Swedish + West_Scottish @ 3.615
6 Norwegian + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Swedish @ 3.620
7 Danish + Southeast_English + Swedish + Swedish @ 3.631
8 German + Southeast_English + Swedish + Swedish @ 3.632
9 German + Orcadian + Southeast_English + Swedish @ 3.634
10 Southwest_English + Swedish + Swedish + West_Scottish @ 3.635
11 Dutch + Southeast_English + Swedish + Swedish @ 3.645
12 Danish + Southwest_English + Swedish + Swedish @ 3.657
13 German + Irish + Orcadian + Swedish @ 3.661
14 French + Orcadian + Swedish + Swedish @ 3.663
15 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Swedish + Swedish @ 3.671
16 German + Orcadian + Orcadian + Swedish @ 3.692
17 French + Swedish + Swedish + West_Scottish @ 3.695
18 Orcadian + Southeast_English + Swedish + Swedish @ 3.709
19 German + Norwegian + Southeast_English + Swedish @ 3.720
20 French + Irish + Swedish + Swedish @ 3.732

Grandmother:
36.97 North_Sea
29.06 Atlantic
11.57 West_Med
9.14 Baltic
8.17 Eastern_Euro
2.63 West_Asian
1.27 Red_Sea
1.18 Southeast_Asian

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Southwest_English @ 3.134
2 Southeast_English @ 4.549
3 West_Scottish @ 5.605
4 Irish @ 5.687
5 Danish @ 6.003
6 Dutch @ 6.352
7 Orcadian @ 6.623
8 German @ 8.859
9 Norwegian @ 9.936
10 Swedish @ 11.850
165 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Southwest_English +50% Southwest_English @ 3.134
2 50% Southeast_English +50% Southwest_English @ 3.659
3 50% Southwest_English +50% West_Scottish @ 3.669
4 50% Orcadian +50% Southwest_English @ 3.737
5 50% Irish +50% Southwest_English @ 3.864
6 50% Danish +50% Southwest_English @ 4.000
7 50% Dutch +50% Southwest_English @ 4.125
8 50% Southeast_English +50% Southeast_English @ 4.549
9 50% Orcadian +50% Southeast_English @ 4.759
10 50% Dutch +50% Southeast_English @ 4.807
13695 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Southwest_English +25% Orcadian +25% Southwest_English @ 2.946
2 50% Southwest_English +25% Southwest_English +25% Southwest_English @ 3.134
3 50% Southwest_English +25% Southwest_English +25% West_Scottish @ 3.139
4 50% Southwest_English +25% Irish +25% Southwest_English @ 3.292
5 50% Southwest_English +25% Southeast_English +25% Southwest_English @ 3.337
6 50% Southwest_English +25% Danish +25% Southwest_English @ 3.343
7 50% Southwest_English +25% Orcadian +25% Southeast_English @ 3.357
8 50% Southwest_English +25% Dutch +25% Southwest_English @ 3.376
9 50% Southwest_English +25% Orcadian +25% West_Scottish @ 3.508
10 50% Southwest_English +25% Irish +25% Orcadian @ 3.517
318558 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 2.946
2 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.134
3 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.139
4 Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.292
5 Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.337
6 Danish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.343
7 Orcadian + Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.357
8 Dutch + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.376
9 Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.508
10 Irish + Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.517
11 Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.574
12 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.596
13 Norwegian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.601
14 Dutch + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.633
15 Dutch + Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.653
16 Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.659
17 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.669
18 Irish + Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.695
19 Danish + Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.697
20 Dutch + Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.718

Mother:
31.50 North_Sea
24.19 Atlantic
14.34 Baltic
10.43 West_Med
8.34 West_Asian
7.50 Eastern_Euro
2.44 East_Med
1.26 South_Asian

Using 1 population approximation:
1 German @ 4.584
2 Dutch @ 8.601
3 Southwest_English @ 9.114
4 Southeast_English @ 9.867
5 Irish @ 10.766
6 Danish @ 10.848
7 French @ 10.919
8 West_Scottish @ 11.646
9 Swedish @ 11.867
10 Norwegian @ 11.947
165 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% German +50% German @ 4.584
2 50% Hungarian +50% Southwest_English @ 5.629
3 50% Hungarian +50% Irish @ 5.930
4 50% Hungarian +50% Southeast_English @ 5.937
5 50% Hungarian +50% West_Scottish @ 6.104
6 50% Dutch +50% German @ 6.312
7 50% French +50% Swedish @ 6.345
8 50% German +50% Southwest_English @ 6.413
9 50% French +50% German @ 6.556
10 50% Austrian +50% Orcadian @ 6.556
13695 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% German +25% German +25% German @ 4.584
2 50% German +25% Hungarian +25% Southwest_English @ 4.605
3 50% Southwest_English +25% Romanian +25% Swedish @ 4.694
4 50% Southwest_English +25% German +25% Hungarian @ 4.824
5 50% German +25% Hungarian +25% Southeast_English @ 4.867
6 50% Southwest_English +25% Bulgarian +25% Swedish @ 4.875
7 50% German +25% Hungarian +25% Irish @ 4.905
8 50% Southwest_English +25% Norwegian +25% Romanian @ 4.951
9 50% German +25% German +25% Hungarian @ 4.960
10 50% Dutch +25% Romanian +25% Southwest_English @ 4.997
365630 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 German + German + German + German @ 4.584
2 German + German + Hungarian + Southwest_English @ 4.605
3 Romanian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Swedish @ 4.694
4 German + Romanian + Southwest_English + Swedish @ 4.790
5 Irish + Romanian + Southwest_English + Swedish @ 4.796
6 German + Hungarian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 4.824
7 Bulgarian + Irish + Southwest_English + Swedish @ 4.846
8 German + Norwegian + Romanian + Southwest_English @ 4.860
9 German + German + Hungarian + Southeast_English @ 4.867
10 Dutch + German + Irish + Romanian @ 4.871
11 Bulgarian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Swedish @ 4.875
12 German + Orcadian + Romanian + Southwest_English @ 4.882
13 German + German + Hungarian + Irish @ 4.905
14 Romanian + Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Swedish @ 4.905
15 German + Irish + Norwegian + Romanian @ 4.936
16 German + Irish + Romanian + Southwest_English @ 4.938
17 German + Irish + Romanian + Swedish @ 4.939
18 Dutch + German + Romanian + Southwest_English @ 4.940
19 German + Irish + Orcadian + Romanian @ 4.943
20 Norwegian + Romanian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 4.951

Aunt:
35.00 North_Sea
24.60 Atlantic
12.72 Baltic
12.11 West_Med
7.34 Eastern_Euro
4.38 West_Asian
2.02 East_Med
1.81 South_Asian

Using 1 population approximation:
1 German @ 5.397
2 Dutch @ 5.570
3 Southwest_English @ 5.674
4 Southeast_English @ 7.166
5 Danish @ 8.330
6 Irish @ 8.496
7 Orcadian @ 8.761
8 West_Scottish @ 9.047
9 Norwegian @ 9.061
10 Swedish @ 9.891
165 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% French +50% Swedish @ 3.905
2 50% French +50% Norwegian @ 4.042
3 50% German +50% Southwest_English @ 4.445
4 50% Dutch +50% German @ 4.735
5 50% Dutch +50% Southwest_English @ 4.852
6 50% Dutch +50% French @ 5.041
7 50% French +50% Orcadian @ 5.148
8 50% German +50% Southeast_English @ 5.380
9 50% German +50% German @ 5.397
10 50% German +50% Orcadian @ 5.429
13695 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Swedish +25% Southwest_English +25% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.509
2 50% Swedish +25% Southwest_English +25% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.739
3 50% Swedish +25% Portuguese +25% Southwest_English @ 3.788
4 50% Dutch +25% Spanish_Galicia +25% Swedish @ 3.825
5 50% Swedish +25% Dutch +25% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.827
6 50% Swedish +25% Southeast_English +25% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.840
7 50% Norwegian +25% Southwest_English +25% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.858
8 50% Southwest_English +25% French +25% Swedish @ 3.881
9 50% Norwegian +25% German +25% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.883
10 50% French +25% Swedish +25% Swedish @ 3.905
309656 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Southwest_English + Spanish_Galicia + Swedish + Swedish @ 3.509
2 Norwegian + Southwest_English + Spanish_Galicia + Swedish @ 3.617
3 Southwest_English + Spanish_Cataluna + Swedish + Swedish @ 3.739
4 French + German + Southwest_English + Swedish @ 3.767
5 Dutch + French + Southwest_English + Swedish @ 3.772
6 Portuguese + Southwest_English + Swedish + Swedish @ 3.788
7 Dutch + Dutch + Spanish_Galicia + Swedish @ 3.825
8 Dutch + Spanish_Cantabria + Swedish + Swedish @ 3.827
9 Southeast_English + Spanish_Galicia + Swedish + Swedish @ 3.840
10 Norwegian + Norwegian + Southwest_English + Spanish_Galicia @ 3.858
11 German + Orcadian + Spanish_Galicia + Swedish @ 3.866
12 Norwegian + Southwest_English + Spanish_Cataluna + Swedish @ 3.867
13 French + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Swedish @ 3.881
14 German + Norwegian + Norwegian + Spanish_Galicia @ 3.883
15 German + Norwegian + Spanish_Galicia + Swedish @ 3.884
16 French + German + Norwegian + Southwest_English @ 3.892
17 Dutch + Southwest_English + Spanish_Galicia + Swedish @ 3.894
18 French + French + Swedish + Swedish @ 3.905
19 Norwegian + Southeast_English + Spanish_Galicia + Swedish @ 3.907
20 French + French + Norwegian + Swedish @ 3.909

[Gaita]

My results:


# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 28.09
2 North_Sea 20.91
3 West_Med 19.74
4 East_Med 11.87
5 Eastern_Euro 5.73
6 Baltic 4.91
7 Red_Sea 4.57
8 Southeast_Asian 1.58
9 Sub-Saharan 1.43
10 Amerindian 0.57
11 Northeast_African 0.46
12 Oceanian 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Extremadura 4.38
2 Spanish_Murcia 4.41
3 Portuguese 4.75
4 Spanish_Cataluna 5.35
5 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 5.62
6 Spanish_Galicia 5.86
7 Spanish_Valencia 7.03
8 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 7.49
9 Spanish_Cantabria 7.71
10 Spanish_Andalucia 8.03
11 Spanish_Aragon 8.6
12 Southwest_French 9.42
13 North_Italian 9.44
14 French 10.42
15 Tuscan 14.88
16 Serbian 17.84
17 Southwest_English 18.21
18 French_Basque 18.38
19 German 18.54
20 Austrian 18.78

[Kadu]

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 24.87
2 West_Med 22.65
3 North_Sea 22.30
4 East_Med 11.93
5 Baltic 6.17
6 Red_Sea 3.74
7 Northeast_African 2.84
8 Eastern_Euro 2.57
9 West_Asian 1.68
10 Southeast_Asian 1.25

Oracle-4

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Portuguese @ 3.620
2 Spanish_Galicia @ 4.270
3 Spanish_Extremadura @ 5.690
4 Spanish_Murcia @ 6.398
5 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 6.548
6 Spanish_Cataluna @ 6.800
7 North_Italian @ 9.190
8 Spanish_Cantabria @ 9.849
9 Spanish_Andalucia @ 9.979
10 Spanish_Valencia @ 9.995


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Portuguese +25% Portuguese +25% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.548
2 50% Spanish_Galicia +25% North_Italian +25% Portuguese @ 3.580
3 50% Portuguese +25% Portuguese +25% Portuguese @ 3.620

[Atlantic Islander]

My results:


# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 28.09
2 North_Sea 20.91
3 West_Med 19.74
4 East_Med 11.87
5 Eastern_Euro 5.73
6 Baltic 4.91
7 Red_Sea 4.57
8 Southeast_Asian 1.58
9 Sub-Saharan 1.43
10 Amerindian 0.57
11 Northeast_African 0.46
12 Oceanian 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Extremadura 4.38
2 Spanish_Murcia 4.41
3 Portuguese 4.75
4 Spanish_Cataluna 5.35
5 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 5.62
6 Spanish_Galicia 5.86
7 Spanish_Valencia 7.03
8 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 7.49
9 Spanish_Cantabria 7.71
10 Spanish_Andalucia 8.03
11 Spanish_Aragon 8.6
12 Southwest_French 9.42
13 North_Italian 9.44
14 French 10.42
15 Tuscan 14.88
16 Serbian 17.84
17 Southwest_English 18.21
18 French_Basque 18.38
19 German 18.54
20 Austrian 18.78


# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 24.87
2 West_Med 22.65
3 North_Sea 22.30
4 East_Med 11.93
5 Baltic 6.17
6 Red_Sea 3.74
7 Northeast_African 2.84
8 Eastern_Euro 2.57
9 West_Asian 1.68
10 Southeast_Asian 1.25

Oracle-4

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Portuguese @ 3.620
2 Spanish_Galicia @ 4.270
3 Spanish_Extremadura @ 5.690
4 Spanish_Murcia @ 6.398
5 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 6.548
6 Spanish_Cataluna @ 6.800
7 North_Italian @ 9.190
8 Spanish_Cantabria @ 9.849
9 Spanish_Andalucia @ 9.979
10 Spanish_Valencia @ 9.995


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Portuguese +25% Portuguese +25% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.548
2 50% Spanish_Galicia +25% North_Italian +25% Portuguese @ 3.580
3 50% Portuguese +25% Portuguese +25% Portuguese @ 3.620

YAY. Thank you both for posting.

[Alessio]

My mum's results (Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15):

# Population Percent / Average percentage for Dutch people

1 North_Sea 42.76 36.73
2 Atlantic 28.12 25.56
3 Baltic 8.81 11.99
4 Eastern_Euro 8.72 10.39
5 West_Asian 5.5 3.34
6 West_Med 5.26 8.42
7 Amerindian 0.75 0.25
8 East_Med 0.08 1.66

My own results:

# Population Percent / Average percentage for Northern Italians

1 Atlantic 26.9 17.15
2 North_Sea 21.89 23.6
3 East_Med 13.67 15.83
4 West_Med 13.08 21.63
5 West_Asian 11.29 7.2
6 Baltic 6.44 7.11
7 Eastern_Euro 3.41 3.72
8 Red_Sea 2.84 3.17
9 Siberian 0.45 0.06
10 Northeast_African 0.04 0.07

[Oneeye]

Oneeye's Grandpa:


North_Sea 40.64%
Atlantic 21.83%
Baltic 11.48%
Eastern_Euro 10.93%
West_Med 6.71%
West_Asian 6.40%
East_Med 1.41%
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 0.61%
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

1 Norwegian + Norwegian + Norwegian + Orcadian @ 5.105
2 Norwegian + Norwegian + Orcadian + Swedish @ 5.109
3 Norwegian + Norwegian + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 5.146
4 Dutch + Norwegian + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 5.153
5 Norwegian + Orcadian + Swedish + Swedish @ 5.212
6 Dutch + Norwegian + Norwegian + Swedish @ 5.219
7 Dutch + Norwegian + Orcadian + Swedish @ 5.233
8 Norwegian + Norwegian + Norwegian + Swedish @ 5.265
9 Orcadian + Orcadian + Swedish + Swedish @ 5.266
10 Norwegian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Swedish @ 5.279

[Oneeye]

Oneeye's Grandma's results:



North_Sea 34.75%
Atlantic 27.37%
Baltic 10.65%
Eastern_Euro 11.68%
West_Med 8.47%
West_Asian 4.33%
East_Med -
Red_Sea 0.52%
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 0.16%
Amerindian 1.00%
Oceanian 0.31%
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.76%



1 North_Swedish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.220
2 Danish + North_Swedish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.238
3 Irish + North_Swedish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.274
4 North_Swedish + Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.336
5 North_Swedish + Southeast_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.370
6 Danish + North_Swedish + Southeast_English + Southwest_English @ 3.382
7 North_Swedish + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Southwest_English @ 3.383
8 Irish + North_Swedish + Southeast_English + Southwest_English @ 3.407
9 North_Swedish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.427
10 Danish + Dutch + Dutch + Southwest_English @ 3.449

[7eleven]

1 North_Sea 25.45
2 East_Med 16.37
3 Atlantic 15.53
4 West_Med 12.03
5 Baltic 8.48
6 West_Asian 8
7 Eastern_Euro 7.92
8 Red_Sea 2.66
9 Northeast_African 1.15
10 South_Asian 1.08
11 Siberian 0.7
12 Sub-Saharan 0.63

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 10.01
2 Romanian 11.36
3 French 13.22
4 Bulgarian 13.43
5 North_Italian 13.81
6 Hungarian 14.06
7 Tuscan 14.11
8 Spanish_Galicia 15
9 Austrian 15.13
10 Portuguese 15.64
11 German 16.37
12 Spanish_Cataluna 16.73
13 Greek 16.91
14 Spanish_Extremadura 16.97
15 Spanish_Murcia 17.42
16 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 17.64
17 Ashkenazi 18.08
18 Dutch 19.11
19 Southwest_English 19.32
20 Southeast_English 19.85

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 60.4% Norwegian + 39.6% Cyprian @ 2.92
2 54.2% Ashkenazi + 45.8% Norwegian @ 3.33
3 54.6% Ashkenazi + 45.4% Orcadian @ 3.65
4 60.4% Swedish + 39.6% Cyprian @ 3.72
5 63.1% Dutch + 36.9% Cyprian @ 3.81
6 54.3% Ashkenazi + 45.7% Swedish @ 3.88
7 64% Norwegian + 36% Samaritan @ 3.92
8 66.5% Dutch + 33.5% Samaritan @ 3.96
9 51.5% Ashkenazi + 48.5% Dutch @ 4
10 67.3% Dutch + 32.7% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.03
11 54.8% Norwegian + 45.2% Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.17
12 60.1% Orcadian + 39.9% Cyprian @ 4.18
13 64.8% Norwegian + 35.2% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.24
14 54.7% Swedish + 45.3% Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.28
15 67.2% Dutch + 32.8% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.7
16 64.1% Swedish + 35.9% Samaritan @ 4.75
17 61.6% Norwegian + 38.4% Lebanese_Muslim @ 4.77
18 64.2% Dutch + 35.8% Lebanese_Muslim @ 4.77
19 70.3% German + 29.7% Samaritan @ 4.88
20 53.6% Ashkenazi + 46.4% Danish @ 4.88

[Shuffle]

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 31.36
2 Atlantic 21.36
3 West_Med 12.5
4 Baltic 11.43
5 East_Med 9.44
6 Eastern_Euro 8.11
7 West_Asian 3.44
8 Oceanian 1.14
9 Siberian 0.6
10 South_Asian 0.33
11 Red_Sea 0.22
12 Northeast_African 0.07

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 French 7.44
2 German 7.82
3 Dutch 9.85
4 Southwest_English 9.99
5 Southeast_English 10.7
6 Danish 11.81
7 Hungarian 11.94
8 Norwegian 12.32
9 Irish 12.53
10 Orcadian 12.54
11 Swedish 12.69
12 Austrian 12.84
13 West_Scottish 12.89
14 Spanish_Galicia 13.49
15 Serbian 13.54
16 North_Swedish 13.92
17 Spanish_Cataluna 14.3
18 Portuguese 14.62
19 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 15.79
20 Spanish_Extremadura 16.54

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 63.5% Norwegian + 36.5% Tuscan @ 3.18
2 57.9% Swedish + 42.1% North_Italian @ 3.31
3 62.8% Swedish + 37.2% Tuscan @ 3.49
4 58.7% Norwegian + 41.3% North_Italian @ 3.51
5 67.4% Orcadian + 32.6% Greek @ 3.99
6 69.7% Dutch + 30.3% Tuscan @ 4.25
7 68% Norwegian + 32% Greek @ 4.32
8 73.5% Dutch + 26.5% Greek @ 4.36
9 55.7% North_Swedish + 44.3% North_Italian @ 4.36
10 82.7% Dutch + 17.3% Cyprian @ 4.51
11 76% Dutch + 24% Ashkenazi @ 4.57
12 75.2% Norwegian + 24.8% Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.59
13 79.9% Dutch + 20.1% Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.63
14 63.7% Orcadian + 36.3% Tuscan @ 4.68
15 65.7% Dutch + 34.3% North_Italian @ 4.76
16 84.6% Dutch + 15.4% Samaritan @ 4.79
17 62.1% Orcadian + 37.9% Bulgarian @ 4.92
18 85.1% Dutch + 14.9% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.95
19 61% North_Swedish + 39% Tuscan @ 4.96
20 70.5% Orcadian + 29.5% Ashkenazi @ 5

[7eleven]

My mothers results:

1 East_Med 29.81
2 West_Med 15.57
3 West_Asian 12.16
4 North_Sea 11.78
5 Atlantic 10.27
6 Baltic 6.47
7 Red_Sea 5.78
8 Eastern_Euro 4.04
9 Northeast_African 1.23
10 Southeast_Asian 0.82
11 Sub-Saharan 0.74
12 South_Asian 0.73
13 Siberian 0.35
14 Oceanian 0.26

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ashkenazi 4.18
2 Sephardic_Jewish 9.3
3 Greek 9.77
4 Tuscan 12.48
5 Cyprian 14.56
6 Bulgarian 16.33
7 Lebanese_Muslim 17.28
8 Syrian 17.75
9 Romanian 18.12
10 North_Italian 18.65
11 Turkish 18.96
12 Jordanian 19.94
13 Samaritan 20.1
14 Serbian 20.96
15 Palestinian 20.98
16 Lebanese_Christian 21.56
17 Lebanese_Druze 22.15
18 Bedouin 22.28
19 Assyrian 22.83
20 Algerian 23.47

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.5% Cyprian + 26.5% Norwegian @ 3.62
2 73.4% Cyprian + 26.6% Swedish @ 3.69
3 72.3% Cyprian + 27.7% Dutch @ 3.77
4 92.7% Ashkenazi + 7.3% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.81
5 73.4% Cyprian + 26.6% North_Swedish @ 3.85
6 91% Ashkenazi + 9% Cyprian @ 3.95
7 94.4% Ashkenazi + 5.6% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.99
8 88.1% Ashkenazi + 11.9% Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.03
9 94.7% Ashkenazi + 5.3% Samaritan @ 4.04
10 73.7% Cyprian + 26.3% Orcadian @ 4.06
11 70.4% Cyprian + 29.6% German @ 4.08
12 96.7% Ashkenazi + 3.3% Palestinian @ 4.13
13 96.4% Ashkenazi + 3.6% Lebanese_Muslim @ 4.14
14 98% Ashkenazi + 2% Assyrian @ 4.16
15 98.7% Ashkenazi + 1.3% Sardinian @ 4.16
16 98.8% Ashkenazi + 1.2% Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.16
17 97.9% Ashkenazi + 2.1% Jordanian @ 4.16
18 96.9% Ashkenazi + 3.1% Tuscan @ 4.17
19 99.3% Ashkenazi + 0.7% Armenian @ 4.18
20 99.1% Ashkenazi + 0.9% Syrian @ 4.18

[Jackson]

One thing i've noticed looking at the new spreadsheet, and my father's side, is that my father, myself, my grandfather all seem to be a couple of percent higher on Eastern Mediterranean than average, and my Grandmother is the source of the 'Red Sea' middle eastern component but has practically no 'East Med'. Although our West Med does seem comparatively lower, so overall the Mediterranean amount is about normal. Hopefully GEDmatch will be up again soon, interesting to see what the new Oracle says with the new reference populations for K13 and K15.

[Graham]

One thing i've noticed looking at the new spreadsheet, and my father's side, is that my father, myself, my grandfather all seem to be a couple of percent higher on Eastern Mediterranean than average, and my Grandmother is the source of the 'Red Sea' middle eastern component but has practically no 'East Med'. Although our West Med does seem comparatively lower, so overall the Mediterranean amount is about normal. Hopefully GEDmatch will be up again soon, interesting to see what the new Oracle says with the new reference populations for K13 and K15.

What did you get before? Would not be surprised to see North Dutch in there for the English. Outside of the Isles. That area is probably closest to what I'd think of the English people.

North_Dutch
50.45 N Atlantic
26.44 Baltic
11.06 W med
5.9 W Asian
3.16 E Med


Southeast_English
50.52 N Atlantic
23.27 Baltic
13.98 W Med
4.46 W Asian
5.09 E Med
1.08 S Asian

[Jackson]

What did you get before? Would not be surprised to see North Dutch in there for the English. Outside of the Isles. That area is probably closest to what I'd think of the English people.

North_Dutch
50.45 N Atlantic
26.44 Baltic
11.06 W med
5.9 W Asian
3.16 E Med


Southeast_English
50.52 N Atlantic
23.27 Baltic
13.98 W Med
4.46 W Asian
5.09 E Med
1.08 S Asian

I usually get Dutch or German, then SE English because i'm less NW European than the majority of British Islanders. Although looking at these regional ones, it's more useful. I think my Grandmother will remain very close to SW English, as she has more West Med and low Baltic. My Grandfather and Father might be quite similar to north Dutch, but they have more east Med. My mum probably closest to South Dutch, and my aunt probably closest to SE English. But we will have to wait for GEDmatch to be up again in order to find out. With a brief look over the averages north Dutch should be the closest match for both of them, or a couple down the list maybe. But it will probably say something like 95% north Dutch +5% Syrian due to the higher East Med, or 70% Irish 30% Bulgarian or something along those lines. Will be interesting to see what Quoteablepatella on ABF gets as well, as his family is primarily from the NW if i remember correctly, and quite northern genetically.

I kinda think some central and northern English samples would fill in the gap between the southern English and the northern British (Scots, Irish, Orcadians) and Danes/north Dutch/north Germans. You can clearly see the French-like influence in southern England, western Germany and the southern Netherlands, fits with the higher U152 in those areas by comparison to the more northern areas in NW Europe.

To be honest in terms of ancient admixture, it makes quite a lot of sense. I would expect the Romano-Britons to be between the northern British and the French, as they had some Gallic influence and were also part of the Roman Empire. And also given that there's an argument for saying some amount of the Anglo-Saxons came from more southern areas, plus Frankish inflluence, our position between the northern and southern Dutch but shifted to the west makes perfect logical sense. It also makes geographic sense. Although it'd be nice to see some Bretons, Normans and Belgians in the plot too, i imagine they'd fill the gap between southern Britain and the French sample.

La Brana having a fairly even helping of all four northern European components in K15 is especially interesting. Also the fact that in genaeological terms he shares the msot ancestry with south-western Europeans and Basques, but in autosomal genetics he is closest to Finns and Swedes. That kind of suggests that these components spanned quite vast areas, as they do today i suppose, but i guess even further - especially as Baltic is one of the primary components in Ma'lta as well.

[Black Wolf]

Wow that is quite interesting that La Brana-1 scores pretty high in the Baltic, North_Sea, Atlantic and even East_Euro components.

[Graham]

I usually get Dutch or German, then SE English because i'm less NW European than the majority of British Islanders. Although looking at these regional ones, it's more useful. I think my Grandmother will remain very close to SW English, as she has more West Med and low Baltic. My Grandfather and Father might be quite similar to north Dutch, but they have more east Med. My mum probably closest to South Dutch, and my aunt probably closest to SE English. But we will have to wait for GEDmatch to be up again in order to find out. With a brief look over the averages north Dutch should be the closest match for both of them, or a couple down the list maybe. But it will probably say something like 95% north Dutch +5% Syrian due to the higher East Med, or 70% Irish 30% Bulgarian or something along those lines. Will be interesting to see what Quoteablepatella on ABF gets as well, as his family is primarily from the NW if i remember correctly, and quite northern genetically.


Went through the K13 SE England numbers to check who's closest in points. :) with the NW..

0.00 Southeast_English
8.46 Orcadian
8.52 Southwest_English
10.69 West_Scottish
11.19 Irish
11.28 North_Dutch
12.38 Danish
16.03 South_Dutch
16.38 North_German
16.72 West_German
17.35 Norwegian
21.65 Swedish
28.76 French

[Black Wolf]

Damn GEDmatch still seems to be down.

[Shuffle]

It's on again now, the problems seem to be fixed.

[Argang]

It's on again now, the problems seem to be fixed.


Though the new population averages for K13 and K15 aren't in yet, so oracles are unchanged.

[Jackson]

Though the new population averages for K13 and K15 aren't in yet, so oracles are unchanged.

I guess they had to prioritize just getting it online first, i assume it won't be long till they are updated.

[Hevo]

I guess they had to prioritize just getting it online first, i assume it won't be long till they are updated.

True, it's a matter of time i guess, i can't wait for the new populations tough.:P

[Jackson]

True, it's a matter of time i guess of time, i can't wait for the new populations tough.:P

Yeah, i wonder if La Brana and Ma'lta are being included as reference 'populations' too? :D

[Atlantic Islander]

One thing i've noticed looking at the new spreadsheet, and my father's side, is that my father, myself, my grandfather all seem to be a couple of percent higher on Eastern Mediterranean than average, and my Grandmother is the source of the 'Red Sea' middle eastern component but has practically no 'East Med'. Although our West Med does seem comparatively lower, so overall the Mediterranean amount is about normal. Hopefully GEDmatch will be up again soon, interesting to see what the new Oracle says with the new reference populations for K13 and K15.

There's a new spreadsheet?

[Jackson]

There's a new spreadsheet?

Just a spreadsheet with Ma'lta and La Brana included, and some new sub-divided populations:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ato3EYTdM8lQdEUtZjRwTkQxRzBCeHdTaTdWUUY4Z 0E#gid=0

[Jackson]

The admixture for Eurogenes at GEDmatch isn't working so i assume it's been taken down to be updated or something.

[Gaston]

K15-based tree:

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p217/dpwes/K15_NJ_Tree.png~original

A separate branch for West/Northwestern Europeans (all Germanics, Scandinavians included + Insular Celtic and French). East Germans and Austrians cluster with other Central Europeans/Northern Balkanians.

La Braña clusters with Slavic and Finns, while Mal'ta is closer to Volga people.

Portuguese and Galicians are particularly removed from other Iberians (Basques included).

[Argang]

That Sardinian/North African cluster is interesting.

By the way, here's a Kabyle berber's Oracle X result for K15:

1 Mozabite_Berber 52.25%
2 Yemenite_Jewish 25.16%
3 Sardinian 13.31%
4 French_Basque 5.97%
5 Mbuti_Pygmy 3.21%
6 Lebanese_Druze 0.06%
7 Egyptian 0.02%
8 Algerian 0.01%
9 Moroccan 0.01%
Total RMSD: 1.471597

Gets Mbuti, but overall shifted both towards Red Sea/East Med and Sardinians/Basques compared to Mozabites. 0% West Asian, which is typical for Mozabites too.
edit: oracle x option 2 shows similarities, but distance is greater (Total RMSD: 2.247133)
1 Algerian 50.75%
2 Mozabite_Berber 9.93%
3 Sephardic_Jewish 9.55%
4 Egyptian 7.84%
5 Greek 5.54%
6 Spanish_Andalucia 5.53%
7 Yemenite_Jewish 4.84%
8 Moroccan 2.98%
9 Sardinian 2.92%
10 French_Basque 0.12%

[Catkin]

I've got my 23andme raw data (though not much other info yet) and have uploaded it to gedmatch. It says it will take a few weeks for batch processing, but I seem to be able to generate Eurogenes v13 and v15 reports. Are these likely to be true results even though processing hasn't completed? Also, I guess it works with 23andme V4 as well? It did recognise it as V4, but I just wondered if anyone's noticed any difference in accuracy or with the size of population distances with V4.

[Argang]

I've got my 23andme raw data (though not much other info yet) and have uploaded it to gedmatch. It says it will take a few weeks for batch processing, but I seem to be able to generate Eurogenes v13 and v15 reports. Are these likely to be true results even though processing hasn't completed? Also, I guess it works with 23andme V4 as well? It did recognise it as V4, but I just wondered if anyone's noticed any difference in accuracy or with the size of population distances with V4.

The calculator differences between results for 23andMe v2, v3, v4 and FTdna are tiny, usually like 0,1% range.

[Catkin]

The calculator differences between results for 23andMe v2, v3, v4 and FTdna are tiny, usually like 0,1% range.

Thanks, I wasn't sure whether to trust them or not :)

Do you think they are valid even though it is still batch processing something?

[Graham]

Had a look at K15 Oracle & it hasn't updated yet. You could still post your results. But it may change soonish. You could still compare them to Jackson & I.

The versions don't matter.

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?96710-Post-your-Eurogenes-EUtest-V2-K15-results&p=1973185&viewfull=1#post1973185

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?96710-Post-your-Eurogenes-EUtest-V2-K15-results&p=1973106&viewfull=1#post1973106

[Catkin]

Ok, thanks. I'll post some. Seems the dark curly hair in a lot of my family isn't med or French as I though it would be. I'm also not showing as 3/4 English- K13 shows even less! I can't actually get into gedmatch at the moment, but I saved some earlier so I'll post those...

[Catkin]

Ok, some of my results :). Known ancestry 3/4 south-east England, 1/4 Irish.
Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 4-Ancestors Oracle

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 39.41
2 Atlantic 26.40
3 Baltic 11.69
4 West_Med 9.06
5 Eastern_Euro 8.01
6 West_Asian 5.42

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Orcadian
@ 4.553
2 Dutch
@ 4.714
3 West_Scottish
@ 6.067
4 Irish
@ 6.238
5 Danish
@ 6.297
6 Southwest_English
@ 6.317
7 Southeast_English
@ 6.459
8 Norwegian
@ 6.547
9 Swedish
@ 7.959
10 German
@ 8.342

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Swedish @ 3.735
2 Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English + Swedish @ 3.788
3 Dutch + Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 3.828
4 Norwegian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 3.857
5 Norwegian + Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.873
6 Dutch + Norwegian + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 3.910
7 Irish + Orcadian + Southwest_English + Swedish @ 3.912
8 German + Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 3.918
9 Dutch + Orcadian + Southwest_English + Swedish @ 3.925
10 Orcadian + Southwest_English + Swedish + West_Scottish @ 3.941


Oracle X:
Option 1
1 Orcadian 50.67%
2 Southwest_English 30.26%
3 Swedish 16.24%
4 North_Ossetian 2.83%
5 Irish 0.00%
6 Dutch 0.00%
7 Ukrainian_West 0.00%
8 German 0.00%
9 Norwegian 0.00%
10 French 0.00%

Option 2
1 Orcadian 66.44%
2 Dutch 16.50%
3 Southwest_English 7.13%
4 Irish 5.14%
5 North_Ossetian 2.76%
6 Swedish 0.82%
7 Ukrainian_West 0.42%
8 Norwegian 0.31%
9 Southeast_English 0.26%
10 North_Swedish 0.21%

[Jackson]

Ok, some of my results :). Known ancestry 3/4 south-east England, 1/4 Irish.
Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 4-Ancestors Oracle

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 39.41
2 Atlantic 26.40
3 Baltic 11.69
4 West_Med 9.06
5 Eastern_Euro 8.01
6 West_Asian 5.42

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Orcadian
@ 4.553
2 Dutch
@ 4.714
3 West_Scottish
@ 6.067
4 Irish
@ 6.238
5 Danish
@ 6.297
6 Southwest_English
@ 6.317
7 Southeast_English
@ 6.459
8 Norwegian
@ 6.547
9 Swedish
@ 7.959
10 German
@ 8.342

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Swedish @ 3.735
2 Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English + Swedish @ 3.788
3 Dutch + Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 3.828
4 Norwegian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 3.857
5 Norwegian + Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.873
6 Dutch + Norwegian + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 3.910
7 Irish + Orcadian + Southwest_English + Swedish @ 3.912
8 German + Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 3.918
9 Dutch + Orcadian + Southwest_English + Swedish @ 3.925
10 Orcadian + Southwest_English + Swedish + West_Scottish @ 3.941


Oracle X:
Option 1
1 Orcadian 50.67%
2 Southwest_English 30.26%
3 Swedish 16.24%
4 North_Ossetian 2.83%
5 Irish 0.00%
6 Dutch 0.00%
7 Ukrainian_West 0.00%
8 German 0.00%
9 Norwegian 0.00%
10 French 0.00%

Option 2
1 Orcadian 66.44%
2 Dutch 16.50%
3 Southwest_English 7.13%
4 Irish 5.14%
5 North_Ossetian 2.76%
6 Swedish 0.82%
7 Ukrainian_West 0.42%
8 Norwegian 0.31%
9 Southeast_English 0.26%
10 North_Swedish 0.21%

Interesting, seems similar to some of my family except you have no East Med and a little less Baltic/Eastern Euro (apart from my grandmother), very northwestern European.

Edit: Do you know what your MTdna is yet?

[Graham]

Orcadian is kind of a Norse-Celt mix, you score higher in North Sea, the update will have West Norway at its peak instead of Orkney, perhaps could change things... Tilt it about.

A couple of seconds to show you what I think of Oracle & that you can't take it literally


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Swedish @ 3.735


Somewhere in this triangle & more drawn to SW England, as it scores 50%. Going from North England, West Midlands & Wales. Somewhere there.
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g156/irnbru293/map_zps794d3664.png

[Hevo]

Had a look at K15 Oracle & it hasn't updated yet. You could still post your results. But it may change soonish. You could still compare them to Jackson & I.


Yeah there is a delay, John the creator of Gedmatch.com has not had time to install the new spreadsheet yet. (due to work deadlines)

[Catkin]

Interesting, seems similar to some of my family except you have no East Med and a little less Baltic/Eastern Euro (apart from my grandmother), very northwestern European.

Edit: Do you know what your MTdna is yet?

Yes, I was a little surprised about the mix.

My MTdna, well 23andme just gave me H so I put my data through the James Lick (I think that's it) calculator and I didn't show a perfect match to any, but was closest to H27, H27c and H27d. I don't think 23andme test for those, and I can't really find anything about them.

[Catkin]

Orcadian is kind of a Norse-Celt mix, you score higher in North Sea, the update will have West Norway at its peak instead of Orkney, perhaps could change things... Tilt it about.

A couple of seconds to show you what I think of Oracle & that you can't take it literally


Somewhere in this triangle & more drawn to SW England, as it scores 50%. Going from North England, West Midlands & Wales. Somewhere there.
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g156/irnbru293/map_zps794d3664.png

That's interesting, thanks. It'll be good to see what the update shows :). I guess that position in Northern England could work. Oracle X seems odd, though I score high on Orcadian on K13 too. It's probably just the Celtic/Norse mix as you say. I'll post some K13 results on that thread.

[Atlantic Islander]

Though the new population averages for K13 and K15 aren't in yet, so oracles are unchanged.

Are they in now?

[Argang]

Are they in now?

Doesn't look like it.

John at Gedmatch has received the new references but been too busy to install them yet. No idea if it's a time consuming process, the sheets aren't big but who knows...

[roro4721]

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 42.22
2 West_Asian 33.55
3 West_Med 7.14
4 Red_Sea 7.03
5 North_Sea 4.09
6 Atlantic 2.76
7 South_Asian 2.23
8 Amerindian 0.98

Pct. Calc. Option 1

1 Armenian 66.02%
2 Lebanese_Druze 31.40%
3 Assyrian 2.52%
4 Kurdish 0.04%
5 Lebanese_Christian 0.01%
6 Jordanian 0.01%
7 Turkish 0.00%
8 Iranian 0.00%
9 Syrian 0.00%
10 Lebanese_Muslim 0.00%

1 Assyrian 76.42%
2 Armenian 8.05%
3 Georgian 6.54%
4 Lebanese_Druze 4.92%
5 Lebanese_Christian 4.07%
6 Turkish 0.00%
7 Lebanese_Muslim 0.00%
8 Syrian 0.00%
9 Jordanian 0.00%
10 Palestinian 0.00%


The results are odd, I don't think this website was made for Armenians.

[Black Wolf]

How will we know when the new population averages will be in? The Oracles will change?

[Damião de Góis]

Gedmatch isn't working for me at all. Probably because of the updates?

[Rochefaton]

If the new averages are not added to GEDMatch by this Sunday, and I can find the spare time, I will try and build a spreadsheet for one or both runs that will act as the basic oracle function.

[Black Wolf]

Still not updated? Anyone know for sure?

[Hevo]

Still not updated? Anyone know for sure?

Nah, i hope that it will be updated this weekend.

[Graham]

Nah, i hope that it will be updated this weekend.

What about now?

[Hevo]

What about now?

True that, but the Gedmatch creator is quite busy due work time deadlines so i hope that he might have some spare time this weekend.:p

[Drawing-slim]

Population
North_Sea 15.99%
Atlantic 15.88%
Baltic 10.23%
Eastern_Euro 5.62%
West_Med 17.13%
West_Asian 12.76%
East_Med 17.90%
Red_Sea 4.50%
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -