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MfA_
10-07-2013, 12:54 PM
This new test is essentially an upgraded version of the EUtest. Unlike the original, it includes an Amerindian component and five native reference populations from North and Central America. So obviously it should be a lot more useful for users from the New World who are wondering about Amerindian admixture.

I just tried it myself, and have say that the 4-Ancestors Oracle results were impressive. In other words, they were very accurate based on what I know about my ancestry. On the other hand, I got the impression that the default Oracle was picking up more ancient ancestry.

http://bga101.blogspot.com/2013/10/eurogenes-k15-now-at-gedmatch.html

Equilibrium
10-07-2013, 01:11 PM
West_Asian 36,66%
East_Med 27,26%
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West_Med 9,70%
Atlantic 8,59%
Eastern_Euro 4,15%
Southeast_Asian 2,86%
South_Asian 2,81%
Siberian 2,43%
Red_Sea 2,25%
Baltic 1,83%
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Oceanian 0,92%
Amerindian 0,55%
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North_Sea 0,00%
Northeast_African 0,00%
Sub_Saharan 0,00%

Oracle

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkish 8.21
2 Armenian 10.6
3 Kurdish 11.42
4 Iranian 14.03
5 Assyrian 14.88
6 Kumyk 15.28
7 Georgian 18.14
8 Adygei 18.4
9 Balkar 18.68
10 Lebanese_Muslim 19.17
11 Cyprian 20.67
12 Lezgin 21.01
13 North_Ossetian 21.08
14 Abhkasian 21.09
15 Syrian 21.36
16 Chechen 22.34
17 Ashkenazi 23.82
18 Sephardic_Jewish 23.94
19 Nogay 24.74
20 Lebanese_Christian 25.18

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76.7% Turkish + 23.3% Abhkasian @ 5.36
2 74.3% Turkish + 25.7% Georgian @ 5.64
3 52.8% Balkar + 47.2% Cyprian @ 6.34
4 79.7% Turkish + 20.3% North_Ossetian @ 6.43
5 50.5% Cyprian + 49.5% North_Ossetian @ 6.44
6 53.4% Abhkasian + 46.6% Sephardic_Jewish @ 6.44
7 77.3% Turkish + 22.7% Adygei @ 6.45
8 77.9% Turkish + 22.1% Balkar @ 6.53
9 53.3% Adygei + 46.7% Cyprian @ 6.6
10 50.6% Cyprian + 49.4% Abhkasian @ 6.82
11 74.8% Armenian + 25.2% Nogay @ 6.94
12 58.3% Balkar + 41.7% Lebanese_Christian @ 6.96
13 83.6% Turkish + 16.4% Chechen @ 7.07
14 50.8% Balkar + 49.2% Lebanese_Muslim @ 7.12
15 53.8% Georgian + 46.2% Cyprian @ 7.17
16 59.4% Balkar + 40.6% Lebanese_Druze @ 7.18
17 57.8% Georgian + 42.2% Sephardic_Jewish @ 7.19
18 57% Assyrian + 43% Balkar @ 7.24
19 77.8% Turkish + 22.2% Kumyk @ 7.25
20 59.7% Balkar + 40.3% Samaritan @ 7.37


Oracle-4

1 Abhkasian + Turkish + Turkish + Turkish @ 6.066
2 Abhkasian + Balkar + Cyprian + Cyprian @ 6.270
3 Georgian + Turkish + Turkish + Turkish @ 6.379
4 Abhkasian + Cyprian + Turkish + Turkish @ 6.512
5 Abhkasian + Cyprian + Cyprian + North_Ossetian @ 6.558
6 Abhkasian + Abhkasian + Cyprian + Sephardic_Jewish @ 6.626
7 Abhkasian + Adygei + Cyprian + Cyprian @ 6.672
8 Armenian + Balkar + Turkish + Turkish @ 6.679
9 Abhkasian + Balkar + Cyprian + Turkish @ 6.697
10 Balkar + Cyprian + Georgian + Turkish @ 6.705
11 Abhkasian + Assyrian + Balkar + Sephardic_Jewish @ 6.720
12 Abhkasian + Balkar + Cyprian + Lebanese_Muslim @ 6.721
13 Abhkasian + Armenian + Turkish + Turkish @ 6.771
14 Abhkasian + Balkar + Cyprian + Sephardic_Jewish @ 6.791
15 Armenian + Georgian + Turkish + Turkish @ 6.812
16 Abhkasian + Cyprian + Kumyk + Turkish @ 6.824
17 Balkar + Cyprian + Cyprian + Georgian @ 6.831
18 Abhkasian + Cyprian + North_Ossetian + Sephardic_Jewish @ 6.861
19 Adygei + Armenian + Turkish + Turkish @ 6.864
20 Armenian + North_Ossetian + Turkish + Turkish @ 6.897


Oracle-X

Pct. Calc. Option 1

1 Turkish 36.08%
2 Abhkasian 33.85%
3 Cyprian 14.02%
4 Kurdish 8.43%
5 Sardinian 5.79%
6 Japanese 1.83%
7 Greek 0.00%
8 Sephardic_Jewish 0.00%
9 Armenian 0.00%
10 Balkar 0.00%


Pct. Calc. Option 2

0 Unable to determine 0.01%
1 Turkish 47.61%
2 Balkar 12.87%
3 Abhkasian 9.47%
4 Armenian 8.57%
5 Georgian 7.69%
6 Cyprian 5.60%
7 Sardinian 5.04%
8 Kurdish 2.04%
9 Assyrian 1.08%
10 Sephardic_Jewish 0.01%

orangepulp
10-07-2013, 01:21 PM
My results

Admix Results (sorted):

#PopulationPercent
1West_Asian36.94
2East_Med30.82
3West_Med6.75
4North_Sea5.04
5Eastern_Euro3.82
6Siberian3.81
7Red_Sea3.5
8Atlantic2.82
9Baltic2.65
10South_Asian2.29
11Southeast_Asian1.21
12Northeast_African0.18
13Oceanian0.11
14Sub-Saharan0.07

Single Population Sharing:

#Population (source)Distance
1Armenian6.54
2Turkish8.44
3Kurdish8.8
4Iranian11.26
5Assyrian11.29
6Kumyk15.05
7Lebanese_Muslim17.56
8Georgian17.86
9Adygei19
10Syrian19.62
11Balkar19.83
12Cyprian20.37
13Lezgin20.49
14Abhkasian21.06
15North_Ossetian21.8
16Lebanese_Christian22.95
17Chechen22.96
18Lebanese_Druze23.45
19Ashkenazi24.35
20Jordanian24.64

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source)Secondary Population (source)Distance
1 81% Armenian +19% Nogay @2.48
2 91.7% Armenian +8.3% Hakas @3.54
3 64.6% Assyrian +35.4% Balkar @3.56
4 91.6% Armenian +8.4% Shors @3.58
5 92.3% Armenian +7.7% Altaian @3.72
6 93.1% Armenian +6.9% Ket @3.81
7 93.3% Armenian +6.7% Selkup @3.81
8 93.2% Armenian +6.8% Tuvinian @3.87
9 88.1% Armenian +11.9% Uzbeki @3.87
10 73.7% Armenian +26.3% Kumyk @3.99
11 89.2% Armenian +10.8% Hazara @4.01
12 94.4% Armenian +5.6% Dolgan @4.03
13 93.6% Armenian +6.4% Buryat @4.03
14 93% Armenian +7% Mongolian @4.06
15 79.2% Armenian +20.8% Balkar @4.07
16 94.4% Armenian +5.6% Yakut @4.08
17 67.1% Assyrian +32.9% North_Ossetian @4.1
18 94.7% Armenian +5.3% Evenki @4.11
19 94.4% Armenian +5.6% Oroqen @4.12
20 94.8% Armenian +5.2% Evens @4.16

My aunt

Admix Results (sorted):

#PopulationPercent
1West_Asian41.02
2East_Med31.22
3West_Med8.46
4Atlantic6.22
5Red_Sea4.48
6South_Asian4.07
7Eastern_Euro2.01
8Baltic1.54
9Siberian0.39
10Amerindian0.37
11Oceanian0.21

Single Population Sharing:

#Population (source)Distance
1Armenian6.75
2Kurdish9.49
3Turkish11.48
4Iranian12.23
5Assyrian12.46
6Georgian16
7Kumyk17.21
8Abhkasian18.87
9Lebanese_Muslim19.01
10Adygei19.09
11Balkar20.84
12Syrian21.2
13Cyprian21.62
14North_Ossetian21.99
15Lezgin22.37
16Chechen23.75
17Lebanese_Christian24.23
18Lebanese_Druze25.32
19Samaritan26.1
20Sephardic_Jewish26.59

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source)Secondary Population (source)Distance
1 53.6% Abhkasian +46.4% Cyprian @4.53
2 61.3% Assyrian +38.7% Abhkasian @4.71
3 56.5% Abhkasian +43.5% Lebanese_Christian @4.74
4 79.2% Armenian +20.8% Abhkasian @4.74
5 50.2% Abhkasian +49.8% Lebanese_Muslim @4.76
6 76.4% Armenian +23.6% Georgian @4.83
7 57.1% Assyrian +42.9% Georgian @4.92
8 82.4% Armenian +17.6% North_Ossetian @4.94
9 57.7% Abhkasian +42.3% Lebanese_Druze @4.95
10 58.5% Abhkasian +41.5% Samaritan @4.95
11 80.3% Armenian +19.7% Adygei @5.01
12 61% Georgian +39% Lebanese_Christian @5.15
13 82.3% Armenian +17.7% Balkar @5.17
14 58.1% Georgian +41.9% Cyprian @5.33
15 62.1% Georgian +37.9% Lebanese_Druze @5.37
16 54.8% Georgian +45.2% Lebanese_Muslim @5.45
17 62.9% Georgian +37.1% Samaritan @5.48
18 85.6% Armenian +14.4% Chechen @5.5
19 82.4% Armenian +17.6% Kumyk @5.78
20 87.6% Armenian +12.4% Lezgin @6.02

orangepulp
10-07-2013, 01:27 PM
I got different results with oracle 4

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 37.08
2 East_Med 30.93
3 West_Med 6.77
4 North_Sea 5.05
5 Eastern_Euro 3.83
6 Siberian 3.82
7 Red_Sea 3.51
8 Atlantic 2.83
9 Baltic 2.66
10 South_Asian 2.30
11 Southeast_Asian 1.21
Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Armenian @ 6.937
2 Kurdish @ 9.665
3 Turkish @ 9.892
4 Iranian @ 12.405
5 Assyrian @ 12.820
6 Kumyk @ 17.708
7 Lebanese_Muslim @ 20.082
8 Georgian @ 20.745
9 Syrian @ 22.201
10 Adygei @ 22.318
165 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Armenian + Armenian + Assyrian + Balkar @ 3.548
2 Armenian + Armenian + Armenian + Nogay @ 3.666
3 Assyrian + Balkar + Georgian + Lebanese_Druze @ 3.785
4 Armenian + Assyrian + Assyrian + Balkar @ 3.828
5 Armenian + Georgian + Kumyk + Lebanese_Druze @ 3.888
6 Armenian + Armenian + Assyrian + Kumyk @ 3.907
7 Abhkasian + Armenian + Lebanese_Druze + Nogay @ 3.938
8 Armenian + Armenian + Armenian + Kumyk @ 3.938
9 Abhkasian + Assyrian + Kumyk + Lebanese_Druze @ 3.943
10 Abhkasian + Assyrian + Balkar + Lebanese_Druze @ 4.012
11 Armenian + Armenian + Kumyk + Turkish @ 4.068
12 Abhkasian + Armenian + Kumyk + Lebanese_Druze @ 4.100
13 Armenian + Armenian + Assyrian + Nogay @ 4.111
14 Armenian + Georgian + Lebanese_Druze + Nogay @ 4.117
15 Armenian + Assyrian + Balkar + Turkish @ 4.118
16 Armenian + Assyrian + Assyrian + North_Ossetian @ 4.137
17 Assyrian + Georgian + Kumyk + Lebanese_Druze @ 4.193
18 Armenian + Armenian + Assyrian + North_Ossetian @ 4.205
19 Armenian + Assyrian + North_Ossetian + Turkish @ 4.215
20 Abhkasian + Balkar + Lebanese_Druze + Lebanese_Druze @ 4.231

MfA_
10-07-2013, 01:32 PM
36.00 West_Asian
32.96 East_Med
8.45 South_Asian
5.81 West_Med
4.97 Eastern_Euro
3.72 Red_Sea
3.50 Atlantic
2.96 Baltic
0.92 Siberian
0.60 Amerindian
0.11 Northeast_African
- North_Sea
- Southeast_Asian
- Oceanian
- Sub-Saharan

Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Kurdish 3.64
2 Iranian 6.68
3 Armenian 7.59
4 Turkish 9.69
5 Assyrian 10.19
6 Lebanese_Muslim 16.94
7 Kumyk 17.91
8 Syrian 18.84
9 Cyprian 20.22
10 Georgian 20.27

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.7% Kurdish + 21.3% Armenian @ 3.11
2 97.6% Kurdish + 2.4% Sardinian @ 3.39
3 95.3% Kurdish + 4.7% Cyprian @ 3.5
4 96.1% Kurdish + 3.9% Abhkasian @ 3.51
5 91.3% Kurdish + 8.7% Assyrian @ 3.52
6 96.1% Kurdish + 3.9% Georgian @ 3.54
7 94% Kurdish + 6% Turkish @ 3.59
8 97.9% Kurdish + 2.1% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.61
9 98.4% Kurdish + 1.6% Samaritan @ 3.61
10 98.5% Kurdish + 1.5% North_Ossetian @ 3.62
11 98.4% Kurdish + 1.6% Balkar @ 3.62
12 98.9% Kurdish + 1.1% Greek @ 3.62
13 98.8% Kurdish + 1.2% Adygei @ 3.63
14 99% Kurdish + 1% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.63
15 98.7% Kurdish + 1.3% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.63
16 99.6% Kurdish + 0.4% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.63
17 99.9% Kurdish + 0.1% Tuscan @ 3.64
18 100% Kurdish + 0% Mozabite_Berber @ 3.64
19 100% Kurdish + 0% Mayan @ 3.64
20 100% Kurdish + 0% Algerian @ 3.64

Jackson
10-07-2013, 01:56 PM
Interesting...very interesting indeed in regard to my unknown ancestry! It doesn't have English as the top match again, but given that i seem to be mixed i guess it's to be expected. :)
It also makes sense more in regard to the core ancestry, given that the Scottish aren't ridiculously far away like they used to be, and the French are relatively closer.
That 6% East Mediterranean or Sephardic Jewish fits well with genaeologically 1/16, which is interesting. No real Jewish links show up on 23&me, although they might do as my matches increase. Otherwise it looks to be from populations closely related to them, like Syrians, Palestinians. I'll re-evaluate this when i have run my mother and aunt, as they get different results and it might clear things up a bit more - As it looks more like southern Italian on 23&me (and i have close-ish Italian matches on GEDmatch).

Here's my results. I'll post results for the rest of my family shortly:

1) North_Sea 34.34
2) Atlantic 24.73
3) Baltic 11.82
4) Eastern_Euro 8.91
5) West_Med 8.52
6) East_Med 4.31
7) West_Asian 3.67
8) Red_Sea 1.7
9) South_Asian 0.89
10) Sub-Saharan 0.56
11) Oceanian 0.41
12) Amerindian 0.13
13) Northeast_African 0.01

1) German 3.3
2) Dutch 3.56
3) Southeast_English 5.29
4) Southwest_English 5.42
5) Danish 5.5
6) Irish 6.33
7) Orcadian 6.56
8) West_Scottish 6.62
9) Norwegian 6.79
10) Swedish 7.4
11) French 9.46
12) North_Swedish 9.72
13) Hungarian 13.79
14) Austrian 14
15) Southwest_Finnish 14.05
16) Finnish 16.99
17) Spanish_Galicia 17.29
18) Serbian 17.45
19) Spanish_Cataluna 17.64
20) Portuguese 18.5

1) 92.4% Dutch + 7.6% Sephardic_Jewish @ 1.33
2) 94% Dutch + 6% Palestinian @ 1.34
3) 94.1% Dutch + 5.9% Samaritan @ 1.37
4) 93.9% Dutch + 6.1% Jordanian @ 1.41
5) 93.7% Dutch + 6.3% Syrian @ 1.42
6) 93.9% Dutch + 6.1% Bedouin @ 1.43
7) 94.3% Dutch + 5.7% Lebanese_Christian @ 1.44
8) 93.7% Dutch + 6.3% Lebanese_Muslim @ 1.46
9) 94.3% Dutch + 5.7% Lebanese_Druze @ 1.46
10) 93.6% Dutch + 6.4% Cyprian @ 1.47

orangepulp
10-07-2013, 02:04 PM
Why does my mother score Northeast_African 1.27 while even Turks don't scire that much?
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Don't know why you said even Turks?
Turks don't score more African than Europeans especially Southern Europeans.

Jackson
10-07-2013, 02:07 PM
It's seems a bit odd for my Dad, as he comes out more northern than usual, but is probably because of the high membership of the North Sea cluster. But then it makes sense in the mixed mode, as it is Norwegian/Orcadian with a pull to the south (which is basically English i guess):

1) North_Sea 37.92
2) Atlantic 25.18
3) Baltic 12.04
4) West_Med 9.36
5) Eastern_Euro 8.41
6) East_Med 4.38
7) Red_Sea 1.35
8) South_Asian 0.68
9) Amerindian 0.44
10) West_Asian 0.25

1) Dutch 4.15
2) Orcadian 5.13
3) Danish 5.79
4) Norwegian 5.8
5) Southeast_English 5.88
6) Southwest_English 6
7) West_Scottish 6.5
8) Irish 6.58
9) German 6.9
10) Swedish 6.91
11) North_Swedish 10.05
12) French 11.58
13) Southwest_Finnish 15.48
14) Hungarian 16.59
15) Austrian 17.3
16) Finnish 18.32
17) Spanish_Galicia 18.75
18) Spanish_Cataluna 19.26
19) Portuguese 20.07
20) Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 20.47

1) 81.6% Norwegian + 18.4% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.22
2) 80.9% Norwegian + 19.1% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.29
3) 80% Norwegian + 20% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.33
4) 80.7% Norwegian + 19.3% Portuguese @ 3.34
5) 81.9% Norwegian + 18.1% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.34
6) 79.6% Norwegian + 20.4% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.36
7) 83.7% Norwegian + 16.3% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.4
8) 83.3% Norwegian + 16.7% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.45
9) 83.7% Norwegian + 16.3% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.53
10) 70.5% Norwegian + 29.5% French @ 3.54
11) 84.6% Norwegian + 15.4% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.58
12) 82.8% Norwegian + 17.2% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.59
13) 92.9% Orcadian + 7.1% Sardinian @ 3.62
14) 83.6% Orcadian + 16.4% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.63
15) 87.2% Orcadian + 12.8% North_Italian @ 3.69
16) 92.9% Orcadian + 7.1% Algerian @ 3.76
17) 85% Orcadian + 15% Portuguese @ 3.77
18) 78.7% Swedish + 21.3% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.77
19) 89.2% Orcadian + 10.8% Tuscan @ 3.78
20) 93.1% Orcadian + 6.9% Moroccan @ 3.78

Caismeachd
10-07-2013, 02:09 PM
1 North_Sea 32.5
2 Atlantic 30.38
3 Eastern_Euro 13.12
4 Baltic 8.92
5 West_Med 8.38
6 West_Asian 2.94
7 East_Med 1.43
8 Amerindian 0.97
9 Northeast_African 0.76
10 South_Asian 0.51
11 Red_Sea 0.08

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Danish 5.04
2 Southeast_English 5.13
3 Southwest_English 5.89
4 West_Scottish 5.92
5 Irish 5.97
6 Dutch 6.67
7 German 6.84
8 Orcadian 8.21
9 Norwegian 9.72
10 Swedish 11.18
11 French 11.51
12 North_Swedish 11.91
13 Southwest_Finnish 14.92
14 Austrian 15.59
15 Hungarian 17.41
16 Spanish_Cataluna 18.02
17 Finnish 18.69
18 Spanish_Galicia 18.9
19 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 19.37
20 Portuguese 19.52


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.5% Danish + 13.5% Southwest_French @ 3.97
2 92.3% Southeast_English + 7.7% Chuvash @ 3.97
3 89.2% Danish + 10.8% French_Basque @ 3.99
4 87.8% Danish + 12.2% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.1
5 87.1% Danish + 12.9% Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.11
6 88.3% Danish + 11.7% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.14
7 88% Danish + 12% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.16
8 89% Danish + 11% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.17
9 90.2% Southeast_English + 9.8% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.22
10 91.7% Southeast_English + 8.3% Erzya @ 4.3
11 88.7% Danish + 11.3% Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.33
12 88.6% Danish + 11.4% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.34
13 87.3% Danish + 12.7% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.34
14 95% Danish + 5% Sardinian @ 4.38
15 89.2% Southeast_English + 10.8% East_Finnish @ 4.38
16 88.6% Danish + 11.4% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.41
17 88.8% Danish + 11.2% Portuguese @ 4.43
18 86.3% Danish + 13.7% Austrian @ 4.45
19 91.4% Danish + 8.6% North_Italian @ 4.52
20 94.6% Danish + 5.4% Chuvash @ 4.53


I'm always closest to Danish.

orangepulp
10-07-2013, 02:11 PM
I obviously had in mind geographical proximity to the African continent. I don't know why you cut the last sentence of my post where I clearly said Considering the geographic location .

I didn't cut it with any intention. I was just commenting on that remark of yours.
Where is your mother from?

safinator
10-07-2013, 02:12 PM
1 East_Med 24.97
2 West_Med 18.4
3 North_Sea 16.52
4 West_Asian 12.79
5 Baltic 10.61
6 Atlantic 9.31
7 Eastern_Euro 4.05
8 Red_Sea 2.59
9 Oceanian 0.56
10 Amerindian 0.15
11 Sub-Saharan 0.04

Jackson
10-07-2013, 02:13 PM
My paternal Grandfather, again comes out more northern than usual but makes more sense in the mixed mode - As on the previous EUtest he basically sits in-between all the north sea nations.

1) North_Sea 37.7
2) Atlantic 25.81
3) Baltic 13.72
4) Eastern_Euro 8.22
5) West_Med 7.26
6) East_Med 4.19
7) West_Asian 2.22
8) South_Asian 0.69
9) Siberian 0.19

1) Dutch 3.71
2) Orcadian 4.86
3) Norwegian 4.97
4) Danish 5.04
5) Swedish 5.37
6) Irish 5.63
7) Southeast_English 5.66
8) West_Scottish 5.74
9) German 5.96
10) Southwest_English 6.5
11) North_Swedish 9.05
12) French 12.75
13) Southwest_Finnish 14.32
14) Hungarian 15.95
15) Austrian 16.52
16) Finnish 17.23
17) Spanish_Galicia 20.39
18) Spanish_Cataluna 20.43
19) Serbian 20.58
20) Polish 21.32

1) 51.7% Swedish + 48.3% Southeast_English @ 2.76
2) 56.4% Swedish + 43.6% Southwest_English @ 2.98
3) 85.1% Swedish + 14.9% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.03
4) 80.5% Orcadian + 19.5% Hungarian @ 3.03
5) 84.7% Swedish + 15.3% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.07
6) 83.8% Swedish + 16.2% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.09
7) 82.2% Swedish + 17.8% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.1
8) 85.1% Swedish + 14.9% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.17
9) 83.3% Swedish + 16.7% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.2
10) 87.7% Swedish + 12.3% French_Basque @ 3.24
11) 81.8% Orcadian + 18.2% Austrian @ 3.26
12) 86% Swedish + 14% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.27
13) 51.8% Swedish + 48.2% Irish @ 3.27
14) 74.5% Swedish + 25.5% French @ 3.32
15) 84.5% Swedish + 15.5% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.35
16) 88.5% Orcadian + 11.5% Bulgarian @ 3.35
17) 86.1% Orcadian + 13.9% Ukrainian_West @ 3.35
18) 84.8% Swedish + 15.2% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.38
19) 55.5% Norwegian + 44.5% Southeast_English @ 3.39
20) 87.3% Orcadian + 12.7% Romanian @ 3.39

Jackson
10-07-2013, 02:24 PM
Here are my paternal Grandmother's results. This makes perfect sense as i think the majority of her ancestry is from Northwest and Southwest England, and the remainder from South-east England and London. She usually comes out as English with a pull towards the south-west, so Southwest English is pretty much dead-on:

1) North_Sea 36.95
2) Atlantic 29.05
3) West_Med 11.56
4) Baltic 9.14
5) Eastern_Euro 8.17
6) West_Asian 2.63
7) Red_Sea 1.27
8) Southeast_Asian 1.18
9) East_Med 0.05

1) Southwest_English 2.76
2) Southeast_English 4.04
3) West_Scottish 5.06
4) Irish 5.13
5) Danish 5.38
6) Dutch 5.56
7) Orcadian 5.88
8) German 7.64
9) Norwegian 8.72
10) Swedish 10.41
11) French 10.77
12) North_Swedish 13.23
13) Spanish_Cataluna 17.92
14) Spanish_Galicia 18
15) Southwest_Finnish 18.03
16) Austrian 18.87
17) Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 19.13
18) Portuguese 19.15
19) Hungarian 19.39
20) Spanish_Cantabria 19.9

1) 84.4% Southwest_English + 15.6% Orcadian @ 2.58
2) 83.2% Orcadian + 16.8% French_Basque @ 2.64
3) 99.4% Southwest_English + 0.6% Dai @ 2.67
4) 99.4% Southwest_English + 0.6% She @ 2.68
5) 99.4% Southwest_English + 0.6% Vietnamese @ 2.68
6) 99.4% Southwest_English + 0.6% Miaozu @ 2.68
7) 99.4% Southwest_English + 0.6% Tujia @ 2.68
8) 99.4% Southwest_English + 0.6% Lahu @ 2.69
9) 99.4% Southwest_English + 0.6% Cambodian @ 2.71
10) 99.4% Southwest_English + 0.6% Yizu @ 2.71
11) 99.4% Southwest_English + 0.6% Naxi @ 2.71
12) 89.8% Southwest_English + 10.2% West_Scottish @ 2.71
13) 94.5% Southwest_English + 5.5% Norwegian @ 2.71
14) 99.5% Southwest_English + 0.5% Malay @ 2.71
15) 99.5% Southwest_English + 0.5% Japanese @ 2.72
16) 99.5% Southwest_English + 0.5% Tu @ 2.72
17) 99.6% Southwest_English + 0.4% Tibeto-Burman_Burmese @ 2.74
18) 99.6% Southwest_English + 0.4% Xibo @ 2.74
19) 99.6% Southwest_English + 0.4% Hezhen @ 2.74
20) 98.1% Southwest_English + 1.9% Swedish @ 2.75

Jackson
10-07-2013, 02:32 PM
Here are my mother's results, West Asian is very high as usual, so it comes out as actual West Asian ancestry on the mixed mode:

1) North_Sea 31.18
2) Atlantic 23.94
3) Baltic 14.2
4) West_Med 10.32
5) West_Asian 8.25
6) Eastern_Euro 7.43
7) East_Med 2.42
8) South_Asian 1.25
9) Sub-Saharan 0.54
10) Oceanian 0.48

1) German 4.08
2) Dutch 7.55
3) Southwest_English 8.01
4) Southeast_English 8.64
5) Irish 9.47
6) French 9.52
7) Danish 9.52
8) West_Scottish 10.22
9) Swedish 10.35
10) Norwegian 10.41
11) Orcadian 10.83
12) Hungarian 11.76
13) Austrian 11.94
14) North_Swedish 12.32
15) Southwest_Finnish 14.6
16) Serbian 15.51
17) Spanish_Galicia 16.86
18) Spanish_Cataluna 16.93
19) Finnish 17.27
20) Portuguese 18.01

1) 94.7% German + 5.3% North_Ossetian @ 3.11
2) 95.5% German + 4.5% Abhkasian @ 3.16
3) 94.6% German + 5.4% Balkar @ 3.18
4) 95.3% German + 4.7% Georgian @ 3.21
5) 94.5% German + 5.5% Chechen @ 3.22
6) 94.9% German + 5.1% Adygei @ 3.23
7) 94.6% German + 5.4% Kumyk @ 3.32
8) 95% German + 5% Lezgin @ 3.41
9) 94.9% German + 5.1% Nogay @ 3.53
10) 96.2% German + 3.8% Brahui @ 3.55
11) 96.2% German + 3.8% Makrani @ 3.56
12) 96.2% German + 3.8% Balochi @ 3.56
13) 95.3% German + 4.7% Tadjik @ 3.59
14) 96.2% German + 3.8% Armenian @ 3.59
15) 96.5% German + 3.5% Pathan @ 3.63
16) 96.9% German + 3.1% Sindhi @ 3.65
17) 96.7% German + 3.3% Burusho @ 3.67
18) 95.9% German + 4.1% Turkish @ 3.67
19) 96.7% German + 3.3% Punjabi_Jat @ 3.67
20) 96.5% German + 3.5% Kurdish @ 3.68

Jackson
10-07-2013, 02:39 PM
Here's my Aunt, mother's sister. She's always a bit heavier on the Mediterranean and less on the West Asian so it comes out as Sardinian:

1) North_Sea 34.67
2) Atlantic 24.37
3) Baltic 12.6
4) West_Med 12
5) Eastern_Euro 7.27
6) West_Asian 4.34
7) East_Med 2.01
8) South_Asian 1.8
9) Amerindian 0.64
10) Oceanian 0.31

1) German 4.64
2) Dutch 4.99
3) Southwest_English 5.05
4) Southeast_English 6.31
5) Danish 7.39
6) Irish 7.52
7) Orcadian 7.78
8) Norwegian 7.97
9) West_Scottish 8.03
10) Swedish 8.75
11) French 9.05
12) North_Swedish 11.53
13) Hungarian 14.47
14) Austrian 15.1
15) Southwest_Finnish 15.55
16) Spanish_Galicia 16.42
17) Spanish_Cataluna 16.88
18) Portuguese 17.82
19) Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 18.17
20) Finnish 18.34

1) 92% Dutch + 8% Sardinian @ 3.18
2) 70.5% Swedish + 29.5% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.29
3) 51% Swedish + 49% French @ 3.31
4) 53.8% Norwegian + 46.2% French @ 3.37
5) 69.7% Norwegian + 30.3% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.44
6) 67.3% Swedish + 32.7% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.44
7) 79.3% Southwest_English + 20.7% Hungarian @ 3.47
8) 81.8% Dutch + 18.2% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.48
9) 71.3% Norwegian + 28.7% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.49
10) 85.1% Southwest_English + 14.9% Ukrainian_West @ 3.5
11) 73% Norwegian + 27% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.53
12) 69.2% Norwegian + 30.8% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.53
13) 86.2% Norwegian + 13.8% Sardinian @ 3.55
14) 70.5% Dutch + 29.5% French @ 3.57
15) 76% Norwegian + 24% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.57
16) 66.8% Swedish + 33.2% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.59
17) 86.3% Dutch + 13.7% North_Italian @ 3.62
18) 83.6% Dutch + 16.4% Portuguese @ 3.63
19) 71.1% Norwegian + 28.9% Portuguese @ 3.63
20) 85.8% Southwest_English + 14.2% Ukrainian @ 3.63

Graham
10-07-2013, 02:40 PM
Looks much closer, best Oracle results I have seen.

My results42.98% -- North_Sea
28.72% -- Atlantic
10.07% -- Eastern_Euro
07.46% -- Baltic
06.63% -- West_Med
01.87% -- West_Asian
01.07% -- Oceanian
Oracle
4.08 -- Orcadian
6.03 -- West Scottish
6.43 -- Danish
7.22 -- Irish
7.51 -- Southeast English
Oracle X
1 99.7% Orcadian + 0.3% Papuan @ 4.07
2 99.9% Orcadian + 0.1% NAN_Melanesian @ 4.08
3 100% Orcadian + 0% Abhkasian @ 4.08
4 100% Orcadian + 0% Adygei @ 4.08
5 100% Orcadian + 0% Algerian @ 4.08
6 100% Orcadian + 0% Altaian @ 4.08
7 100% Orcadian + 0% Armenian @ 4.08
8 100% Orcadian + 0% Ashkenazi @ 4.08
9 100% Orcadian + 0% Assyrian @ 4.08
10 100% Orcadian + 0% Austrian @ 4.0

Jackson
10-07-2013, 02:44 PM
Looks much closer, best Oracle results I have seen.

My results42.98% -- North_Sea
28.72% -- Atlantic
10.07% -- Eastern_Euro
07.46% -- Baltic
06.63% -- West_Med
01.87% -- West_Asian
01.07% -- Oceanian
Oracle
4.08 -- Orcadian
6.03 -- West Scottish
6.43 -- Danish
7.22 -- Irish
7.51 -- Southeast English
Oracle X
1 99.7% Orcadian + 0.3% Papuan @ 4.07
2 99.9% Orcadian + 0.1% NAN_Melanesian @ 4.08
3 100% Orcadian + 0% Abhkasian @ 4.08
4 100% Orcadian + 0% Adygei @ 4.08
5 100% Orcadian + 0% Algerian @ 4.08
6 100% Orcadian + 0% Altaian @ 4.08
7 100% Orcadian + 0% Armenian @ 4.08
8 100% Orcadian + 0% Ashkenazi @ 4.08
9 100% Orcadian + 0% Assyrian @ 4.08
10 100% Orcadian + 0% Austrian @ 4.0

At least you don't come out as English this time i guess? :P

Annihilus
10-07-2013, 02:45 PM
http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu38/ann1h1lus/euv2.jpg

http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu38/ann1h1lus/euv2sp.jpg

http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu38/ann1h1lus/euv2mm.jpg

MfA_
10-07-2013, 02:45 PM
MfA Kurds_Anatolia*
North Sea 0 1.80
Atlantic 3.5 4.08
Baltic 2.96 2.25
Eastern Euro 4.97 7.41
West Med 5.81 3.46
West Asian 36 34.75
East Med 32.96 32.41
Red Sea 3.72 4.76
South Asian 8.45 7.7
Southeast Asian 0 0.03
Siberian 0.92 0.49
Amerindian 0.6 0.47
Oceanian 0 0.04
Northeast African 0.11 0.21
Sub Saharan 0 0.14

MfA Kurds_Anatolia
West Asian 72.68 71.93
European 17.24 19.0
South Asian 8.45 7.7
East Eurasian 1.52 1.02
African 0.11 0.35

n=9

Graham
10-07-2013, 02:46 PM
At least you don't come out as English this time i guess? :P

My parents might still. But I'll settle for 100% Orcadian. :P

http://imageshack.us/a/img5/8518/s1ry.png

Oracle 4
1 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 4.637
2 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 4.908
3 Danish + Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 5.113
4 Irish + Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 5.235
5 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Southeast_English @ 5.306
6 Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.430
7 Norwegian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 5.505
8 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 5.522
9 Danish + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 5.583
10 Norwegian + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 5.614

Jackson
10-07-2013, 02:49 PM
My parents might still. But I'll settle for 100% Ocradian. :P

Hehe true, given previous results i thought your mother will probably come out as Dutch or Danish and your father as West Scottish?

I guess Orcadian makes sense really...

Jusarius
10-07-2013, 02:53 PM
Mine:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 31.57
2 Eastern_Euro 24.46
3 Baltic 19.83
4 Atlantic 13.05
5 Siberian 7.64
6 West_Med 1.60
7 Amerindian 1.00
8 Oceanian 0.86


--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 East_Finnish @ 7.413
2 Finnish @ 8.344
3 Southwest_Finnish @ 11.920
4 Estonian @ 14.173
5 Kargopol_Russian @ 15.062
6 North_Swedish @ 15.065
7 Ukrainian @ 17.012
8 Polish @ 17.923
9 Ukrainian_West @ 18.140
10 Erzya @ 18.245
165 iterations.


Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% East_Finnish +50% Finnish @ 7.076
2 50% East_Finnish +50% East_Finnish @ 7.413
3 50% Erzya +50% North_Swedish @ 8.135
4 50% East_Finnish +50% North_Swedish @ 8.197
5 50% Finnish +50% Finnish @ 8.344
6 50% East_Finnish +50% Southwest_Finnish @ 8.543
7 50% Kargopol_Russian +50% North_Swedish @ 8.553
8 50% Chuvash +50% Swedish @ 8.678
9 50% Erzya +50% Norwegian @ 9.301
10 50% Erzya +50% Swedish @ 9.396
13695 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% North_Swedish +25% Chuvash +25% Estonian @ 5.856
2 50% Finnish +25% Chuvash +25% North_Swedish @ 6.210
3 50% North_Swedish +25% Chuvash +25% East_Finnish @ 6.405
4 50% East_Finnish +25% East_Finnish +25% North_Swedish @ 6.529
5 50% Finnish +25% Chuvash +25% Swedish @ 6.577
6 50% North_Swedish +25% Chuvash +25% Finnish @ 6.642
7 50% Finnish +25% Chuvash +25% Norwegian @ 6.743
8 50% Estonian +25% Chuvash +25% North_Swedish @ 6.787
9 50% Estonian +25% Chuvash +25% Norwegian @ 6.807
10 50% East_Finnish +25% Chuvash +25% Swedish @ 6.927
397294 iterations.



Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Chuvash + Estonian + North_Swedish + North_Swedish @ 5.856
2 Chuvash + Estonian + Finnish + North_Swedish @ 5.999
3 Chuvash + Finnish + Finnish + North_Swedish @ 6.210
4 Chuvash + East_Finnish + Estonian + Norwegian @ 6.268
5 Chuvash + Estonian + Finnish + Norwegian @ 6.291
6 Chuvash + East_Finnish + Estonian + Swedish @ 6.322
7 Chuvash + Estonian + Finnish + Swedish @ 6.342
8 Chuvash + East_Finnish + Estonian + North_Swedish @ 6.381
9 Chuvash + East_Finnish + North_Swedish + North_Swedish @ 6.405
10 Chuvash + East_Finnish + Finnish + Swedish @ 6.524
11 Chuvash + Estonian + North_Swedish + Southwest_Finnish @ 6.526
12 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + East_Finnish + North_Swedish @ 6.529
13 Chuvash + East_Finnish + Finnish + North_Swedish @ 6.545
14 Chuvash + Finnish + Finnish + Swedish @ 6.577
15 Chuvash + Finnish + North_Swedish + North_Swedish @ 6.642
16 Chuvash + Estonian + North_Swedish + Swedish @ 6.687
17 Chuvash + East_Finnish + Finnish + Norwegian @ 6.688
18 Chuvash + Finnish + Finnish + Norwegian @ 6.743
19 Chuvash + East_Finnish + Estonian + Orcadian @ 6.752
20 Chuvash + Estonian + Estonian + North_Swedish @ 6.787

Oracle-X Pct. Calc. Option 1

1 North_Swedish 44.68%
2 Chuvash 28.72%
3 Estonian 26.60%
4 Southwest_Finnish 0.00%
5 Kargopol_Russian 0.00%
6 Finnish 0.00%
7 Norwegian 0.00%
8 Erzya 0.00%
9 Swedish 0.00%
10 East_Finnish 0.00%

Graham
10-07-2013, 02:54 PM
Hehe true, given previous results i thought your mother will probably come out as Dutch or Danish and your father as West Scottish?

I guess Orcadian makes sense really...

An Orcadian, It would really be Pict-Neolithic + Norse.

I'll give it a whirl.

orangepulp
10-07-2013, 02:55 PM
http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu38/ann1h1lus/euv2.jpg

http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu38/ann1h1lus/euv2sp.jpg

http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu38/ann1h1lus/euv2mm.jpg

Can you post your mothers results too?

Jackson
10-07-2013, 02:57 PM
An Orcadian, It would really be Pict-Neolithic + Norse.

I'll give it a whirl.

Indeed, although it seems that many peoples with different names in the British Isles were genetically almost identical for the most part, so from that perspective Orcadian is plausible, given that the majority of your ancestry is similar to both of those groups in Orkney?

Jackson
10-07-2013, 03:00 PM
My Paternal Phased Data File (not as reliable but interesting nonetheless):

1) North_Sea 37.27
2) Atlantic 23.85
3) Baltic 10.86
4) West_Med 9.72
5) Eastern_Euro 8.52
6) East_Med 5.35
7) Red_Sea 2.92
8) Amerindian 0.95
9) South_Asian 0.44
10) Northeast_African 0.13

1) Dutch 5.44
2) Orcadian 6.56
3) Southwest_English 6.99
4) Norwegian 7.09
5) Southeast_English 7.12
6) Danish 7.18
7) German 7.55
8) West_Scottish 7.99
9) Irish 8.1
10) Swedish 8.16
11) North_Swedish 10.71
12) French 10.82
13) Southwest_Finnish 16
14) Hungarian 16.29
15) Austrian 17.19
16) Spanish_Galicia 17.68
17) Finnish 18.65
18) Spanish_Cataluna 18.65
19) Portuguese 19.1
20) Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 19.77

1) 74.4% Norwegian + 25.6% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.89
2) 89.3% Orcadian + 10.7% Algerian @ 3.95
3) 89.7% Orcadian + 10.3% Moroccan @ 3.98
4) 76.1% Norwegian + 23.9% Portuguese @ 3.99
5) 77.7% Norwegian + 22.3% Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.01
6) 77.8% Norwegian + 22.2% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.06
7) 92.3% Orcadian + 7.7% Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.06
8) 89.9% Orcadian + 10.1% Mozabite_Berber @ 4.16
9) 92.1% Orcadian + 7.9% Saudi @ 4.18
10) 91.2% Orcadian + 8.8% Egyptian @ 4.24
11) 77.3% Norwegian + 22.7% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.25
12) 63.7% Norwegian + 36.3% French @ 4.26
13) 94.9% Dutch + 5.1% Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.29
14) 76.4% Norwegian + 23.6% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.37
15) 77.8% Orcadian + 22.2% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.38
16) 87.5% Orcadian + 12.5% Ashkenazi @ 4.4
17) 71.3% Swedish + 28.7% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.4
18) 91.3% Orcadian + 8.7% Bedouin @ 4.4
19) 91.6% Orcadian + 8.4% Samaritan @ 4.41
20) 80.6% Norwegian + 19.4% North_Italian @ 4.43

Thrax
10-07-2013, 03:00 PM
East_Med 25.71
Atlantic 15.92
West_Asian 15.55
West_Med 13.86
Baltic 11.24
North_Sea 10.4
Eastern_Euro 4.88
Red_Sea 1.88
Oceanian 0.56

Graham
10-07-2013, 03:02 PM
Mother39.08% -- North Sea
27.92% -- Atlantic
10.85% -- Baltic
09.01% -- Eastern Euro
07.70% -- West_Med
03.74% -- West_Asian
Oracle
2.47 -- Orcadian
3.18 -- West Scottish
3.40 -- Danish
3.74 -- Dutch
3.75 -- Irish
Oracle 4
1 Irish + Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 2.363
2 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 2.450
3 Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.474
4 Irish + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 2.495
5 Dutch + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 2.536
Oracle X
1 Orcadian 78.25%
2 Irish 4.10%
3 French_Basque 4.09%
4 Southwest_French 3.54%
5 Swedish 3.07%
6 Lithuanian 2.48%
7 Norwegian 2.27%
8 West_Scottish 1.10%
9 North_Ossetian 1.10%
10 Chechen 0.00%

Ibericus
10-07-2013, 03:04 PM
Mine :

1 Atlantic 29.81
2 North_Sea 20.6
3 West_Med 20.34
4 East_Med 11.97
5 Baltic 7.89
6 Red_Sea 3.73
7 Eastern_Euro 2.07
8 West_Asian 2.05
9 Northeast_African 0.68
10 Southeast_Asian 0.64
11 Sub-Saharan 0.17
12 Amerindian 0.05

# Population (source) Distance

1 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 2.92
2 Spanish_Murcia 3.28
3 Spanish_Cataluna 3.54
4 Spanish_Extremadura 4.15
5 Portuguese 4.62
6 Spanish_Valencia 4.94
7 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 5.84
8 Spanish_Andalucia 6.07
9 Spanish_Galicia 6.16
10 Spanish_Cantabria 6.59
11 Spanish_Aragon 6.76
12 Southwest_French 7.74
13 North_Italian 8.38
14 French 10.54
15 Tuscan 14.26
16 French_Basque 16.84

Jackson
10-07-2013, 03:05 PM
Father's Paternal Phased Data File:

1) North_Sea 39.67
2) Atlantic 21.62
3) Baltic 13.4
4) Eastern_Euro 7.7
5) West_Med 7.27
6) East_Med 5.13
7) South_Asian 1.93
8) West_Asian 1.79
9) Red_Sea 1.49

1) Norwegian 5.55
2) Swedish 5.6
3) Dutch 6.15
4) Orcadian 6.69
5) Danish 8.39
6) German 8.59
7) Southeast_English 9.13
8) West_Scottish 9.17
9) North_Swedish 9.28
10) Irish 9.31
11) Southwest_English 9.42
12) French 14.04
13) Southwest_Finnish 15.47
14) Hungarian 16.21
15) Finnish 17.54
16) Austrian 18.07
17) Serbian 20.88
18) Spanish_Galicia 21.11
19) Polish 21.96
20) Ukrainian_West 22.01

1) 94.3% Norwegian + 5.7% Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.01
2) 93.7% Norwegian + 6.3% Samaritan @ 4.16
3) 93.8% Norwegian + 6.2% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.18
4) 93.6% Norwegian + 6.4% Palestinian @ 4.19
5) 93.9% Norwegian + 6.1% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.2
6) 94.3% Norwegian + 5.7% Saudi @ 4.2
7) 93.7% Norwegian + 6.3% Jordanian @ 4.29
8) 93.7% Norwegian + 6.3% Bedouin @ 4.3
9) 93.8% Norwegian + 6.2% Egyptian @ 4.31
10) 93.6% Norwegian + 6.4% Syrian @ 4.34
11) 94.7% Swedish + 5.3% Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.35
12) 92.6% Norwegian + 7.4% Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.36
13) 93.6% Norwegian + 6.4% Cyprian @ 4.37
14) 93.7% Norwegian + 6.3% Lebanese_Muslim @ 4.39
15) 94% Swedish + 6% Samaritan @ 4.39
16) 92.5% Swedish + 7.5% Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.42
17) 94.2% Swedish + 5.8% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.45
18) 89.6% Swedish + 10.4% Tuscan @ 4.45
19) 94.2% Swedish + 5.8% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.46
20) 94% Swedish + 6% Palestinian @ 4.46

Annihilus
10-07-2013, 03:05 PM
Can you post your mothers results too?

http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu38/ann1h1lus/meuv2.jpg

http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu38/ann1h1lus/meuv2sp.jpg

http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu38/ann1h1lus/meuv2mm.jpg

Graham
10-07-2013, 03:13 PM
So my family all score Orkney #1, West Scotland #2 & Danish #3. Also my Dad doesn't score much non-European.

Dad43.13% -- North Sea
29.51% -- Atlantic
09.14% -- Eastern Euro
06.55% -- West_Med
05.27% -- Baltic
04.61% -- East Med
Oracle
6.43 -- Orcadian
7.68 -- West Scottish
7.93 -- Danish
8.51 -- South East English
8.76 -- Irish
Oracle 4
1 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 8.096
2 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 8.233
3 Danish + Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 8.366
4 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Southeast_English @ 8.379
5 Irish + Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 8.487
Oracle X
1 Orcadian 99.82%
2 Spanish_Aragon 0.11%
3 Spanish_Murcia 0.06%
4 Spanish_Cataluna 0.01%
5 Spanish_Extremadura 0.00%
6 Spanish_Valencia 0.00%
7 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 0.00%
8 Spanish_Galicia 0.00%
9 Portuguese 0.00%
10 French 0.00%

orangepulp
10-07-2013, 03:15 PM
http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu38/ann1h1lus/meuv2.jpg

http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu38/ann1h1lus/meuv2sp.jpg

http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu38/ann1h1lus/meuv2mm.jpg

From the other Turkish oracle results I have seen your mothers resembles mines the most.

Annihilus
10-07-2013, 03:17 PM
From the other Turkish oracle results I have seen your mothers resembles mines the most.

I was just thinking the same:)

Jackson
10-07-2013, 03:27 PM
My unknown ancestry seems to remain ambiguous as ever, but given that it shows up as Italian on 23&me, and i have a few close Italian matches on there and GEDmatch, i would postulate that is the most likely source. The rest seems to be Celto-Germanic NW European which fits in of course with my known ancestry.

Mazik
10-07-2013, 03:30 PM
Very north Swedish with this calc. Like it should be :thumb001:

My results

North_Sea 34.14%
Atlantic 20.87%
Baltic 16.03%
Eastern_Euro 15.95%
West_Med 5.95%
West_Asian 1.16%
South_Asian 1.65%
Southeast_Asian 1.12%
Siberian 2.54%
Oceanian 0.61%

Oracle

1 North_Swedish 3.19
2 Southwest_Finnish 6.77
3 Swedish 7.09
4 Norwegian 7.53
5 Dutch 8.76
6 Finnish 8.88
7 German 9.76
8 Danish 10.84
9 Orcadian 11.07
10 West_Scottish 12.2
11 Irish 12.33
12 Southeast_English 12.45
13 Southwest_English 12.78
14 Hungarian 13.19
15 East_Finnish 13.59
16 Austrian 14.8
17 Estonian 15.47
18 Polish 15.61
19 Ukrainian 16.01
20 Ukrainian_West 16.29

1 64.9% Norwegian + 35.1% East_Finnish @ 1.95
2 73.1% Norwegian + 26.9% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.34
3 55.3% Orcadian + 44.7% East_Finnish @ 2.45
4 96.1% North_Swedish + 3.9% Sardinian @ 2.46
5 89.1% North_Swedish + 10.9% Ukrainian @ 2.54
6 76.7% Norwegian + 23.3% Erzya @ 2.55
7 88.4% North_Swedish + 11.6% Austrian @ 2.55
8 89% North_Swedish + 11% Polish @ 2.56
9 91.1% North_Swedish + 8.9% Russian @ 2.56
10 93.5% North_Swedish + 6.5% Southwest_French @ 2.6
11 91.3% North_Swedish + 8.7% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.6
12 54.6% Norwegian + 45.4% Finnish @ 2.62
13 89.8% North_Swedish + 10.2% Ukrainian_West @ 2.62
14 87.7% North_Swedish + 12.3% Hungarian @ 2.63
15 77.6% North_Swedish + 22.4% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.64
16 55.9% Finnish + 44.1% Orcadian @ 2.68
17 93.1% North_Swedish + 6.9% Erzya @ 2.68
18 93.9% North_Swedish + 6.1% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.69
19 50.4% Dutch + 49.6% Finnish @ 2.69
20 91.8% North_Swedish + 8.2% Serbian @ 2.69

Black Wolf
10-07-2013, 03:47 PM
My results:

Population
North_Sea 31.10%
Atlantic 20.43%
Baltic 10.15%
Eastern_Euro 12.53%
West_Med 7.55%
West_Asian 4.79%
East_Med 7.85%
Red_Sea 1.47%
South_Asian 1.06%
Southeast_Asian 0.21%
Siberian 1.01%
Amerindian 0.91%
Oceanian 0.96%
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Oracle:

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 German 7.5
2 Dutch 9
3 North_Swedish 10.56
4 Norwegian 10.62
5 Danish 10.67
6 French 10.82
7 Southeast_English 10.88
8 Swedish 10.96
9 Southwest_English 11.02
10 Hungarian 11.17
11 Orcadian 11.64
12 Austrian 11.99
13 Irish 12.14
14 West_Scottish 12.19
15 Serbian 13.33
16 Southwest_Finnish 13.42
17 Finnish 15.46
18 Romanian 17.26
19 Spanish_Galicia 17.57
20 Spanish_Cataluna 18.31

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.9% Norwegian + 26.1% Ashkenazi @ 3.2
2 81% Norwegian + 19% Cyprian @ 3.32
3 78.3% North_Swedish + 21.7% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.32
4 70% North_Swedish + 30% Tuscan @ 3.42
5 78.3% Norwegian + 21.7% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.52
6 81.4% Norwegian + 18.6% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.52
7 83.1% Norwegian + 16.9% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.6
8 82.8% Norwegian + 17.2% Samaritan @ 3.62
9 81.5% Norwegian + 18.5% Syrian @ 3.67
10 83% Norwegian + 17% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.76
11 81.4% North_Swedish + 18.6% Cyprian @ 3.86
12 72.6% Norwegian + 27.4% Greek @ 3.86
13 82.6% Norwegian + 17.4% Palestinian @ 3.87
14 82.2% Norwegian + 17.8% Jordanian @ 3.88
15 53.8% Orcadian + 46.2% Serbian @ 3.96
16 74.5% North_Swedish + 25.5% Ashkenazi @ 4
17 80% Norwegian + 20% Turkish @ 4.01
18 82.8% Norwegian + 17.2% Assyrian @ 4.06
19 85.8% Dutch + 14.2% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.1
20 78.1% Swedish + 21.9% Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.24

Oracle-4:


Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 German @ 8.611
2 Dutch @ 10.438
3 North_Swedish @ 12.216
4 French @ 12.291
5 Norwegian @ 12.389
6 Danish @ 12.424
7 Southeast_English @ 12.665
8 Swedish @ 12.726
9 Southwest_English @ 12.776
10 Hungarian @ 12.840
165 iterations.



Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Orcadian +50% Serbian @ 4.505
2 50% Norwegian +50% Serbian @ 5.102
3 50% Danish +50% Serbian @ 5.830
4 50% Dutch +50% Serbian @ 5.997
5 50% Serbian +50% Swedish @ 6.073
6 50% Serbian +50% West_Scottish @ 6.176
7 50% Orcadian +50% Romanian @ 6.190
8 50% French +50% North_Swedish @ 6.598
9 50% Norwegian +50% Romanian @ 6.675
10 50% Serbian +50% Southeast_English @ 6.786
13695 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% North_Swedish +25% Ashkenazi +25% Orcadian @ 2.804
2 50% North_Swedish +25% Ashkenazi +25% Danish @ 2.948
3 50% North_Swedish +25% Ashkenazi +25% West_Scottish @ 3.034
4 50% Norwegian +25% Ashkenazi +25% North_Swedish @ 3.130
5 50% North_Swedish +25% Ashkenazi +25% Southeast_English @ 3.131
6 50% North_Swedish +25% Ashkenazi +25% Irish @ 3.332
7 50% North_Swedish +25% Ashkenazi +25% Southwest_English @ 3.344
8 50% North_Swedish +25% Ashkenazi +25% Dutch @ 3.345
9 50% Orcadian +25% Ashkenazi +25% North_Swedish @ 3.356
10 50% Orcadian +25% Ashkenazi +25% Finnish @ 3.449
393701 iterations.



Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Ashkenazi + North_Swedish + North_Swedish + Orcadian @ 2.804
2 Ashkenazi + Danish + North_Swedish + Norwegian @ 2.925
3 Ashkenazi + Danish + North_Swedish + North_Swedish @ 2.948
4 Ashkenazi + North_Swedish + Norwegian + Orcadian @ 2.974
5 Ashkenazi + North_Swedish + North_Swedish + West_Scottish @ 3.034
6 Ashkenazi + North_Swedish + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 3.130
7 Ashkenazi + North_Swedish + North_Swedish + Southeast_English @ 3.131
8 Ashkenazi + Dutch + North_Swedish + Norwegian @ 3.152
9 Ashkenazi + North_Swedish + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 3.221
10 Ashkenazi + Dutch + North_Swedish + Orcadian @ 3.278
11 Ashkenazi + Danish + North_Swedish + Swedish @ 3.305
12 Ashkenazi + Irish + North_Swedish + North_Swedish @ 3.332
13 Ashkenazi + North_Swedish + Orcadian + Swedish @ 3.343
14 Ashkenazi + North_Swedish + North_Swedish + Southwest_English @ 3.344
15 Ashkenazi + North_Swedish + Norwegian + Southeast_English @ 3.344
16 Ashkenazi + Dutch + North_Swedish + North_Swedish @ 3.345
17 Ashkenazi + North_Swedish + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 3.356
18 Ashkenazi + Danish + North_Swedish + Orcadian @ 3.383
19 Ashkenazi + Finnish + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 3.449
20 North_Swedish + North_Swedish + Norwegian + Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.450

sgc2009
10-07-2013, 03:48 PM
Mine:

1 North_Sea 33.03
2 Atlantic 20.87
3 Baltic 17.56
4 Eastern_Euro 13.51
5 West_Med 7.56
6 West_Asian 2.54
7 Siberian 1.59
8 Amerindian 1.32
9 Oceanian 0.83
10 South_Asian 0.77
11 East_Med 0.41

1 North_Swedish 5.23
2 Swedish 6.83
3 Southwest_Finnish 7.21
4 Norwegian 7.64
5 German 8.02
6 Dutch 8.07
7 Finnish 9.65
8 Danish 10.71
9 Hungarian 10.94
10 Orcadian 11.11
11 Irish 11.69
12 Southeast_English 11.72
13 Southwest_English 11.8
14 West_Scottish 11.91
15 Austrian 12.94
16 Polish 14.19
17 Ukrainian_West 14.67
18 Ukrainian 14.68
19 East_Finnish 14.68
20 Estonian 14.97

1 66.5% Norwegian + 33.5% Ukrainian @ 2.19
2 66.6% Norwegian + 33.4% Ukrainian_West @ 2.32
3 71.9% Norwegian + 28.1% Russian @ 2.32
4 57.2% Orcadian + 42.8% Ukrainian @ 2.35
5 65.8% Norwegian + 34.2% Polish @ 2.39
6 57.2% Orcadian + 42.8% Ukrainian_West @ 2.72
7 66% Dutch + 34% Estonian @ 2.75
8 63.4% Orcadian + 36.6% Russian @ 2.76
9 55% Dutch + 45% Finnish @ 2.79
10 73.3% Norwegian + 26.7% Ukrainian_Northeast @ 2.83
11 56.2% Southwest_English + 43.8% Estonian @ 2.95
12 73% Norwegian + 27% Belorussian @ 3.03
13 73.7% Norwegian + 26.3% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.05
14 55.5% Finnish + 44.5% Southwest_English @ 3.05
15 71.3% North_Swedish + 28.7% Hungarian @ 3.08
16 65.8% Dutch + 34.2% Ukrainian @ 3.09
17 70.2% Swedish + 29.8% Ukrainian @ 3.1
18 56.5% Orcadian + 43.5% Polish @ 3.11
19 76% Dutch + 24% Erzya @ 3.12
20 77.1% Norwegian + 22.9% Erzya @ 3.13


Maternal grandmother:

1 North_Sea 37.49
2 Atlantic 26.64
3 Baltic 13.16
4 Eastern_Euro 9.9
5 West_Med 8.93
6 West_Asian 1.46
7 Amerindian 0.93
8 Northeast_African 0.87
9 Red_Sea 0.37
10 East_Med 0.25

1 Dutch 2.92
2 Orcadian 4.44
3 Norwegian 4.55
4 Danish 4.6
5 West_Scottish 5.06
6 Irish 5.07
7 Southeast_English 5.32
8 Southwest_English 5.52
9 Swedish 5.81
10 German 6.4
11 North_Swedish 8.84
12 French 13.05
13 Southwest_Finnish 13.98
14 Hungarian 16.89
15 Finnish 17.16
16 Austrian 17.25
17 Spanish_Galicia 20.42
18 Spanish_Cataluna 20.59
19 Polish 21.5
20 Portuguese 21.66

1 87.7% Norwegian + 12.3% French_Basque @ 1.94
2 84.8% Swedish + 15.2% French_Basque @ 2.41
3 51.6% Southwest_English + 48.4% Swedish @ 2.43
4 56.4% Norwegian + 43.6% Southwest_English @ 2.46
5 85.9% Norwegian + 14.1% Southwest_French @ 2.54
6 87.2% Norwegian + 12.8% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.67
7 86.1% Norwegian + 13.9% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.69
8 55.6% Norwegian + 44.4% Southeast_English @ 2.76
9 83.9% Dutch + 16.1% Irish @ 2.81
10 85.3% Dutch + 14.7% West_Scottish @ 2.83
11 83.4% Dutch + 16.6% Orcadian @ 2.84
12 84.1% Dutch + 15.9% Norwegian @ 2.85
13 53% Southeast_English + 47% Swedish @ 2.86
14 87.4% Norwegian + 12.6% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.86
15 90.6% Dutch + 9.4% Swedish @ 2.88
16 54.2% Norwegian + 45.8% Irish @ 2.88
17 99.7% Dutch + 0.3% Mayan @ 2.9
18 99.7% Dutch + 0.3% Pima @ 2.9
19 98.8% Dutch + 1.2% French_Basque @ 2.9
20 91.8% Dutch + 8.2% Danish @ 2.91

Ibericus
10-07-2013, 04:19 PM
I forgot the Oracle-4 populations, it's basically all inside Spain :


Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +50% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.502
2 50% Spanish_Cataluna +50% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.623
3 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +50% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.653
4 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.747
5 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +50% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.915
6 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +50% Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.027
7 50% Spanish_Cataluna +50% Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.029
8 50% Spanish_Cataluna +50% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.067
9 50% Portuguese +50% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.085
10 50% Spanish_Murcia +50% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.100
13695 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Cataluna +25% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.435
2 50% Spanish_Murcia +25% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.477
3 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Murcia +25% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.502
4 50% Spanish_Murcia +25% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.502
5 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.516
6 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Cataluna +25% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.517
7 50% Spanish_Cataluna +25% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.528
8 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Murcia +25% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.535
9 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.583
10 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.618
405104 iterations.



Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Murcia @ 3.435
2 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 3.477
3 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 3.502
4 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Murcia @ 3.516
5 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.517
6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.523
7 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Murcia @ 3.528
8 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.535
9 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.583
10 North_Italian + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.612
11 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.618
12 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.619
13 North_Italian + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.622
14 Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 3.623
15 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.644
16 Portuguese + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.650
17 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.653
18 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Murcia @ 3.663
19 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.665
20 Portuguese + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.668

Graham
10-07-2013, 04:25 PM
Think this is the best oracle yet, going by other results.

Would like to see it on a PCA graph

7eleven
10-07-2013, 04:27 PM
Damn I scored a shit ton of levantine

1 North_Sea 25.45
2 East_Med 16.37
3 Atlantic 15.53
4 West_Med 12.03
5 Baltic 8.48
6 West_Asian 8
7 Eastern_Euro 7.92
8 Red_Sea 2.66
9 Northeast_African 1.15
10 South_Asian 1.08
11 Siberian 0.7
12 Sub-Saharan 0.63

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 10.01
2 Romanian 11.36
3 French 13.22
4 Bulgarian 13.43
5 North_Italian 13.81
6 Hungarian 14.06
7 Tuscan 14.11
8 Spanish_Galicia 15
9 Austrian 15.13
10 Portuguese 15.64
11 German 16.37
12 Spanish_Cataluna 16.73
13 Greek 16.91
14 Spanish_Extremadura 16.97
15 Spanish_Murcia 17.42
16 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 17.64
17 Ashkenazi 18.08
18 Dutch 19.11
19 Southwest_English 19.32
20 Southeast_English 19.85

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 60.4% Norwegian + 39.6% Cyprian @ 2.92
2 54.2% Ashkenazi + 45.8% Norwegian @ 3.33
3 54.6% Ashkenazi + 45.4% Orcadian @ 3.65
4 60.4% Swedish + 39.6% Cyprian @ 3.72
5 63.1% Dutch + 36.9% Cyprian @ 3.81
6 54.3% Ashkenazi + 45.7% Swedish @ 3.88
7 64% Norwegian + 36% Samaritan @ 3.92
8 66.5% Dutch + 33.5% Samaritan @ 3.96
9 51.5% Ashkenazi + 48.5% Dutch @ 4
10 67.3% Dutch + 32.7% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.03
11 54.8% Norwegian + 45.2% Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.17
12 60.1% Orcadian + 39.9% Cyprian @ 4.18
13 64.8% Norwegian + 35.2% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.24
14 54.7% Swedish + 45.3% Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.28
15 67.2% Dutch + 32.8% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.7
16 64.1% Swedish + 35.9% Samaritan @ 4.75
17 61.6% Norwegian + 38.4% Lebanese_Muslim @ 4.77
18 64.2% Dutch + 35.8% Lebanese_Muslim @ 4.77
19 70.3% German + 29.7% Samaritan @ 4.88
20 53.6% Ashkenazi + 46.4% Danish @ 4.88

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Ashkenazi +50% Norwegian @ 4.342
2 50% Ashkenazi +50% Orcadian @ 4.741
3 50% Ashkenazi +50% Dutch @ 4.745
4 50% Ashkenazi +50% Swedish @ 4.924
5 50% Norwegian +50% Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.470
6 50% Sephardic_Jewish +50% Swedish @ 5.588
7 50% Ashkenazi +50% Danish @ 5.948
8 50% Ashkenazi +50% Southwest_English @ 6.228
9 50% Ashkenazi +50% Southeast_English @ 6.243
10 50% Ashkenazi +50% German @ 6.252
13695 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Norwegian +25% Lebanese_Christian +25% North_Italian @ 3.624
2 50% Norwegian +25% Lebanese_Druze +25% North_Italian @ 3.791
3 50% Norwegian +25% Lebanese_Christian +25% Tuscan @ 3.865
4 50% Swedish +25% Lebanese_Christian +25% North_Italian @ 3.867
5 50% Norwegian +25% Samaritan +25% Tuscan @ 3.901
6 50% Norwegian +25% Cyprian +25% Tuscan @ 3.941
7 50% Norwegian +25% North_Italian +25% Samaritan @ 3.981
8 50% Norwegian +25% Ashkenazi +25% Cyprian @ 3.982
9 50% Norwegian +25% Lebanese_Druze +25% Tuscan @ 4.047
10 50% Norwegian +25% Ashkenazi +25% Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.082
493866 iterations.



Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Lebanese_Christian + North_Italian + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 3.624
2 Lebanese_Christian + North_Italian + Norwegian + Swedish @ 3.678
3 Lebanese_Christian + North_Italian + North_Swedish + Norwegian @ 3.733
4 Lebanese_Druze + North_Italian + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 3.791
5 Lebanese_Christian + Norwegian + Norwegian + Tuscan @ 3.865
6 Lebanese_Christian + North_Italian + Swedish + Swedish @ 3.867
7 Lebanese_Druze + North_Italian + Norwegian + Swedish @ 3.883
8 Norwegian + Norwegian + Samaritan + Tuscan @ 3.901
9 Lebanese_Christian + North_Italian + North_Swedish + Swedish @ 3.940
10 Cyprian + Norwegian + Norwegian + Tuscan @ 3.941
11 Lebanese_Druze + North_Italian + North_Swedish + Norwegian @ 3.964
12 North_Italian + Norwegian + Norwegian + Samaritan @ 3.981
13 Ashkenazi + Cyprian + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 3.982
14 Cyprian + Norwegian + Swedish + Tuscan @ 3.996
15 North_Italian + Norwegian + Samaritan + Swedish @ 4.000
16 Lebanese_Christian + Norwegian + Swedish + Tuscan @ 4.038
17 Norwegian + Samaritan + Swedish + Tuscan @ 4.042
18 Lebanese_Druze + Norwegian + Norwegian + Tuscan @ 4.047
19 North_Italian + North_Swedish + Norwegian + Samaritan @ 4.063
20 Cyprian + North_Swedish + Norwegian + Tuscan @ 4.066

1 Norwegian 57.02%
2 Lebanese_Druze 21.28%
3 Sardinian 10.91%
4 Armenian 6.77%
5 Chuvash 1.57%
6 Egyptian 1.45%
7 Ethiopian_Anuak 0.92%
8 Orcadian 0.00%
9 Serbian 0.00%
10 Ashkenazi 0.00%

Jackson
10-07-2013, 04:28 PM
Think this is the best oracle yet, going by other results.

Would like to see it on a PCA graph

That would be interesting. Someone with that Excel statistics thing could do that perhaps? I would but my trial ran out ages ago.

Graham
10-07-2013, 04:30 PM
That would be interesting. Someone with that Excel statistics thing could do that perhaps? I would but my trial ran out ages ago.

I'll do it maybe some time this week, kinda tired with new job. Physical work & early start. In a 'can't be arsed' mood.

Jackson
10-07-2013, 04:30 PM
I'll do it maybe some time this week, kinda tired with new job. Physical work & early start. In a 'can't be arsed' mood.

Ahh fair enough. What's the job, if you don't mind me asking? Am a nosy bugger.

Mazik
10-07-2013, 04:34 PM
My grandpa's results:

North_Sea 27.74%
Atlantic 21.21%
Baltic 19.48%
Eastern_Euro 16.57%
West_Med 5.51%
South_Asian 0.27%
Southeast_Asian 0.21%
Siberian 5.84%
Amerindian 1.61%
Oceanian 0.50%
Northeast_African 0.53%
Sub-Saharan 0.53%

Oracle

1 Southwest_Finnish 3.87
2 Finnish 5.57
3 East_Finnish 9.07
4 North_Swedish 9.5
5 Hungarian 11.95
6 Polish 12.21
7 Ukrainian 12.75
8 Austrian 12.89
9 Estonian 12.97
10 Ukrainian_West 13.18
11 Swedish 13.23
12 German 13.29
13 Norwegian 14
14 Dutch 14.25
15 Kargopol_Russian 14.72
16 Russian 15.43
17 Danish 15.7
18 Belorussian 15.78
19 Irish 16.62
20 Ukrainian_Northeast 16.65

1 87% Finnish + 13% French_Basque @ 2.19
2 96.3% Southwest_Finnish + 3.7% Koryak @ 2.53
3 96.2% Southwest_Finnish + 3.8% Chukchi @ 2.54
4 96.9% Southwest_Finnish + 3.1% Evens @ 2.61
5 96.8% Southwest_Finnish + 3.2% Evenki @ 2.63
6 96.7% Southwest_Finnish + 3.3% Yakut @ 2.64
7 96.7% Southwest_Finnish + 3.3% Dolgan @ 2.65
8 84.4% Finnish + 15.6% Southwest_French @ 2.71
9 96.8% Southwest_Finnish + 3.2% Oroqen @ 2.74
10 96.4% Southwest_Finnish + 3.6% Buryat @ 2.79
11 96% Southwest_Finnish + 4% Ket @ 2.8
12 96.2% Southwest_Finnish + 3.8% Tuvinian @ 2.81
13 85.9% Finnish + 14.1% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.81
14 85% Finnish + 15% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.84
15 96.5% Southwest_Finnish + 3.5% East_Greenlander @ 2.84
16 95.8% Southwest_Finnish + 4.2% Altaian @ 2.85
17 96.2% Southwest_Finnish + 3.8% Selkup @ 2.88
18 96.1% Southwest_Finnish + 3.9% West_Greenlander @ 2.9
19 95.6% Southwest_Finnish + 4.4% Hakas @ 2.94
20 96.2% Southwest_Finnish + 3.8% Mongolian @ 2.95

Prince Carlo
10-07-2013, 04:44 PM
Is the spreadsheet available yet?

noricum
10-07-2013, 04:58 PM
Admix Results (sorted):


# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 23.18
2 North_Sea 21.34
3 Baltic 21.05
4 Eastern_Euro 14.07
5 West_Med 9.2
6 East_Med 8
7 West_Asian 1.28
8 Red_Sea 1.05
9 South_Asian 0.84

Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Austrian 4.96
2 Hungarian 7.06
3 Polish 10.02
4 Serbian 10.73
5 Ukrainian_West 11.33
6 Ukrainian 11.49
7 Southwest_Finnish 11.99
8 German 13.44
9 Finnish 14.19
10 Romanian 14.23
11 Russian 14.33
12 Belorussian 14.53
13 Ukrainian_Northeast 15.02
14 French 15.99
15 East_Finnish 16.24
16 North_Swedish 16.24
17 Estonian 16.25
18 Bulgarian 16.51
19 Dutch 16.76
20 Kargopol_Russian 17.42

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.8% Belorussian + 40.2% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.16
2 57.3% Belorussian + 42.7% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.26
3 53.9% Lithuanian + 46.1% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.44
4 51.4% Lithuanian + 48.6% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.7
5 59.9% Belorussian + 40.1% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.75
6 60.3% Belorussian + 39.7% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.76
7 58.4% Belorussian + 41.6% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.78
8 58.6% Belorussian + 41.4% Portuguese @ 3.8
9 54.4% Lithuanian + 45.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.05
10 54% Lithuanian + 46% Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.05
11 57.5% Estonian + 42.5% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.08
12 58.9% Estonian + 41.1% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.19
13 87.2% Austrian + 12.8% Lithuanian @ 4.22
14 61.8% Belorussian + 38.2% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.23
15 70% Polish + 30% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.24
16 84.6% Austrian + 15.4% Belorussian @ 4.27
17 86.1% Austrian + 13.9% Estonian @ 4.27
18 62.7% Belorussian + 37.3% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.27
19 58% Belorussian + 42% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.31
20 69.7% Polish + 30.3% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.31

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Austrian @ 5.774
2 Hungarian @ 8.229
3 Polish @ 11.659
4 Serbian @ 12.460
5 Ukrainian_West @ 13.167
6 Ukrainian @ 13.378
7 Southwest_Finnish @ 13.649
8 German @ 15.674
9 Finnish @ 15.963
10 Romanian @ 16.613
165 iterations.



Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Lithuanian +50% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.227
2 50% Lithuanian +50% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.279
3 50% Belorussian +50% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.618
4 50% Lithuanian +50% Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.870
5 50% Lithuanian +50% Portuguese @ 5.003
6 50% Lithuanian +50% Spanish_Valencia @ 5.027
7 50% Lithuanian +50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 5.036
8 50% Belorussian +50% Spanish_Murcia @ 5.261
9 50% Belorussian +50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 5.348
10 50% Belorussian +50% Portuguese @ 5.363
13695 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Belorussian +25% Austrian +25% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.936
2 50% Austrian +25% Lithuanian +25% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.034
3 50% Lithuanian +25% French +25% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.106
4 50% Lithuanian +25% Spanish_Cataluna +25% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.133
5 50% Austrian +25% Lithuanian +25% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.139
6 50% Belorussian +25% North_Italian +25% Southeast_English @ 4.141
7 50% Lithuanian +25% French +25% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.165
8 50% Belorussian +25% German +25% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.191
9 50% Belorussian +25% French +25% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.196
10 50% Belorussian +25% French +25% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.214
261101 iterations.



Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Austrian + Belorussian + Estonian + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.767
2 Lithuanian + Serbian + Southwest_Finnish + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.816
3 Austrian + Lithuanian + Southwest_Finnish + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.857
4 Belorussian + Estonian + Serbian + Spanish_Aragon @ 3.912
5 Austrian + Belorussian + Belorussian + Spanish_Murcia @ 3.936
6 Austrian + Belorussian + Estonian + Spanish_Murcia @ 3.944
7 Belorussian + French + Lithuanian + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.946
8 Austrian + Belorussian + Estonian + Spanish_Aragon @ 3.968
9 Austrian + Belorussian + Estonian + Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.970
10 Austrian + Lithuanian + Southwest_Finnish + Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.985
11 Belorussian + French + Lithuanian + Spanish_Murcia @ 3.987
12 Belorussian + Estonian + Serbian + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.990
13 Austrian + Belorussian + Polish + Spanish_Murcia @ 3.998
14 Austrian + Lithuanian + Southwest_Finnish + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.015
15 Austrian + Austrian + Lithuanian + Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.034
16 Austrian + Estonian + Polish + Spanish_Valencia @ 4.063
17 Austrian + Belorussian + Finnish + Spanish_Valencia @ 4.077
18 Lithuanian + Serbian + Southwest_Finnish + Spanish_Aragon @ 4.078
19 Austrian + Finnish + Lithuanian + Spanish_Valencia @ 4.081
20 Austrian + Belorussian + Southwest_Finnish + Spanish_Valencia @ 4.090

Oracle X

Admix Results:


# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 21.34
2 Atlantic 23.18
3 Baltic 21.05
4 Eastern_Euro 14.07
5 West_Med 9.20
6 West_Asian 1.28
7 East_Med 8.00
8 Red_Sea 1.05
9 South_Asian 0.84
10 Southeast_Asian 0.00
11 Siberian 0.00
12 Amerindian 0.00
13 Oceanian 0.00
14 Northeast_African 0.00
15 Sub-Saharan 0.00

Pct. Calc. Option 1


1 Lithuanian 35.22%
2 Spanish_Valencia 31.74%
3 Southwest_Finnish 22.76%
4 Austrian 6.25%
5 Yemenite_Jewish 4.03%
6 Hungarian 0.00%
7 Algerian 0.00%
8 Spanish_Galicia 0.00%
9 Spanish_Murcia 0.00%
10 Serbian 0.00%


Pct. Calc. Option 2


0 Unable to determine 0.01%
1 Austrian 53.70%
2 Lithuanian 11.18%
3 Belorussian 7.67%
4 Estonian 6.41%
5 Spanish_Galicia 6.21%
6 Portuguese 5.67%
7 Spanish_Murcia 5.09%
8 Spanish_Valencia 2.98%
9 East_Finnish 1.08%
10 Spanish_Cataluna 0.00%

Ibericus
10-07-2013, 05:05 PM
^Interesting that an Austrian comes out as half Ltihuanian - half Spanish on the 2 mixed mode..

Graham
10-07-2013, 05:11 PM
^Interesting that an Austrian comes out as half Ltihuanian - half Spanish on the 2 mixed mode..

It's not as direct as that. It is really half-way between the two.

Black Wolf
10-07-2013, 05:48 PM
My direct family member's results.

Father's:

Population
North_Sea 19.82%
Atlantic 12.74%
Baltic 13.45%
Eastern_Euro 12.27%
West_Med 9.91%
West_Asian 7.70%
East_Med 17.26%
Red_Sea 0.90%
South_Asian 1.14%
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 2.76%
Amerindian 1.63%
Oceanian 0.28%
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.13%

Oracle:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 19.82
2 East_Med 17.26
3 Baltic 13.45
4 Atlantic 12.74
5 Eastern_Euro 12.27
6 West_Med 9.91
7 West_Asian 7.7
8 Siberian 2.76
9 Amerindian 1.63
10 South_Asian 1.14
11 Red_Sea 0.9
12 Oceanian 0.28
13 Sub-Saharan 0.13


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 7.37
2 Romanian 7.93
3 Bulgarian 9.64
4 Hungarian 12.11
5 Austrian 13.6
6 Greek 14.87
7 Tuscan 16.77
8 Ashkenazi 17.48
9 North_Italian 17.49
10 Ukrainian_West 18.09
11 French 18.8
12 Ukrainian 18.82
13 Polish 18.87
14 German 19.88
15 Spanish_Galicia 20.35
16 Portuguese 20.74
17 Southwest_Finnish 21.27
18 Spanish_Cataluna 21.39
19 Finnish 21.39
20 Russian 21.5

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.6% Finnish + 40.4% Cyprian @ 3.9
2 59.8% Southwest_Finnish + 40.2% Cyprian @ 4.39
3 55.3% Ashkenazi + 44.7% Finnish @ 4.68
4 76.9% Hungarian + 23.1% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.87
5 64.4% Southwest_Finnish + 35.6% Lebanese_Christian @ 5.19
6 55.3% Ashkenazi + 44.7% Southwest_Finnish @ 5.27
7 77.4% Hungarian + 22.6% Lebanese_Christian @ 5.3
8 56.4% Ashkenazi + 43.6% East_Finnish @ 5.32
9 55% Finnish + 45% Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.35
10 64.3% Finnish + 35.7% Lebanese_Christian @ 5.43
11 63.8% Southwest_Finnish + 36.2% Samaritan @ 5.47
12 74.1% Hungarian + 25.9% Cyprian @ 5.54
13 77.1% Hungarian + 22.9% Samaritan @ 5.58
14 63.7% Finnish + 36.3% Samaritan @ 5.58
15 60% Greek + 40% Finnish @ 5.59
16 64.2% Southwest_Finnish + 35.8% Lebanese_Druze @ 5.65
17 59% East_Finnish + 41% Cyprian @ 5.71
18 75.1% Hungarian + 24.9% Lebanese_Muslim @ 5.76
19 58.2% North_Swedish + 41.8% Cyprian @ 5.83
20 60.8% Hungarian + 39.2% Ashkenazi @ 5.86

Oracle-4:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 19.90
2 East_Med 17.33
3 Baltic 13.51
4 Atlantic 12.79
5 Eastern_Euro 12.33
6 West_Med 9.95
7 West_Asian 7.73
8 Siberian 2.77
9 Amerindian 1.64
10 South_Asian 1.14
11 Red_Sea 0.91


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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Serbian @ 8.211
2 Romanian @ 8.924
3 Bulgarian @ 10.957
4 Hungarian @ 14.036
5 Austrian @ 15.752
6 Greek @ 17.080
7 Tuscan @ 19.057
8 North_Italian @ 19.853
9 Ashkenazi @ 20.019
10 Ukrainian_West @ 20.952
165 iterations.



Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Ashkenazi +50% Finnish @ 5.688
2 50% Ashkenazi +50% Southwest_Finnish @ 6.336
3 50% Finnish +50% Sephardic_Jewish @ 6.447
4 50% Ashkenazi +50% East_Finnish @ 6.568
5 50% East_Finnish +50% Sephardic_Jewish @ 6.983
6 50% Estonian +50% Sephardic_Jewish @ 6.998
7 50% Ashkenazi +50% Hungarian @ 7.148
8 50% Cyprian +50% Finnish @ 7.226
9 50% Ashkenazi +50% Ukrainian @ 7.409
10 50% Finnish +50% Greek @ 7.609
13695 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Finnish +25% Cyprian +25% Greek @ 4.372
2 50% Finnish +25% Lebanese_Druze +25% North_Italian @ 4.533
3 50% East_Finnish +25% Lebanese_Druze +25% North_Italian @ 4.536
4 50% Finnish +25% Lebanese_Druze +25% Tuscan @ 4.546
5 50% Finnish +25% Greek +25% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.615
6 50% Finnish +25% Ashkenazi +25% Cyprian @ 4.662
7 50% Hungarian +25% East_Finnish +25% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.663
8 50% Finnish +25% Greek +25% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.804
9 50% Finnish +25% Bulgarian +25% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.829
10 50% Hungarian +25% Finnish +25% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.836
473390 iterations.



Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Erzya + Lebanese_Druze + North_Italian + North_Swedish @ 3.845
2 Cyprian + East_Finnish + Greek + North_Swedish @ 3.994
3 Erzya + Lebanese_Druze + North_Italian + Swedish @ 4.092
4 East_Finnish + Finnish + Lebanese_Druze + North_Italian @ 4.184
5 Erzya + Lebanese_Druze + North_Italian + Norwegian @ 4.205
6 Bulgarian + Kargopol_Russian + Lebanese_Druze + Norwegian @ 4.216
7 Bulgarian + East_Finnish + Lebanese_Druze + Norwegian @ 4.222
8 Bulgarian + East_Finnish + Lebanese_Druze + North_Swedish @ 4.241
9 East_Finnish + Greek + Lebanese_Druze + North_Swedish @ 4.267
10 Erzya + French + Hungarian + Lebanese_Druze @ 4.280
11 Bulgarian + East_Finnish + Lebanese_Christian + North_Swedish @ 4.289
12 Cyprian + Finnish + Greek + North_Swedish @ 4.301
13 Kargopol_Russian + Lebanese_Druze + Norwegian + Romanian @ 4.316
14 Finnish + Hungarian + Lebanese_Druze + Serbian @ 4.323
15 Bulgarian + East_Finnish + Lebanese_Christian + Norwegian @ 4.333
16 Kargopol_Russian + Lebanese_Druze + North_Italian + North_Swedish @ 4.343
17 Cyprian + East_Finnish + Greek + Swedish @ 4.358
18 East_Finnish + Estonian + Lebanese_Druze + North_Italian @ 4.371
19 Cyprian + Finnish + Finnish + Greek @ 4.372
20 Erzya + Lebanese_Druze + North_Swedish + Tuscan @ 4.373


Mother's:

Population
North_Sea 37.52%
Atlantic 29.36%
Baltic 7.75%
Eastern_Euro 10.90%
West_Med 8.71%
West_Asian 4.01%
East_Med -
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 0.69%
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 0.15%
Amerindian 0.42%
Oceanian 0.37%
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.11%

Oracle:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 37.51
2 Atlantic 29.36
3 Eastern_Euro 10.9
4 West_Med 8.71
5 Baltic 7.75
6 West_Asian 4.01
7 South_Asian 0.7
8 Amerindian 0.42
9 Oceanian 0.37
10 Siberian 0.15
11 Sub-Saharan 0.11
12 Red_Sea 0.02


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Danish 3.75
2 West_Scottish 3.79
3 Southeast_English 4.01
4 Southwest_English 4.56
5 Irish 4.59
6 Orcadian 4.67
7 Dutch 5.31
8 Norwegian 7.75
9 German 7.98
10 Swedish 9.76
11 North_Swedish 12.02
12 French 12.77
13 Southwest_Finnish 17.24
14 Austrian 19.16
15 Hungarian 19.89
16 Spanish_Cataluna 20.1
17 Spanish_Galicia 20.46
18 Finnish 20.54
19 Portuguese 21.39
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 21.49

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 89.1% Orcadian + 10.9% French_Basque @ 3.18
2 65.2% Danish + 34.8% Southwest_English @ 3.37
3 64.2% West_Scottish + 35.8% Southwest_English @ 3.38
4 51.3% Southwest_English + 48.7% Orcadian @ 3.39
5 60% Southeast_English + 40% Orcadian @ 3.4
6 62.8% Danish + 37.2% Southeast_English @ 3.6
7 97.7% West_Scottish + 2.3% Sardinian @ 3.61
8 75.2% Danish + 24.8% Orcadian @ 3.62
9 72.5% West_Scottish + 27.5% Orcadian @ 3.62
10 60.8% West_Scottish + 39.2% Southeast_English @ 3.62
11 78.6% West_Scottish + 21.4% Dutch @ 3.64
12 54.5% Danish + 45.5% West_Scottish @ 3.66
13 97.1% Danish + 2.9% French_Basque @ 3.66
14 98.3% West_Scottish + 1.7% Burusho @ 3.66
15 88.6% Orcadian + 11.4% Southwest_French @ 3.66
16 92.8% West_Scottish + 7.2% French @ 3.67
17 97.8% West_Scottish + 2.2% Chuvash @ 3.67
18 96.1% West_Scottish + 3.9% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.68
19 95.8% West_Scottish + 4.2% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.69
20 96.9% Danish + 3.1% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.69

Oracle-4:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 38.18
2 Atlantic 29.89
3 Eastern_Euro 11.09
4 West_Med 8.87
5 Baltic 7.89
6 West_Asian 4.08


--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 West_Scottish @ 4.458
2 Danish @ 4.720
3 Southeast_English @ 5.097
4 Irish @ 5.483
5 Orcadian @ 5.502
6 Southwest_English @ 5.649
7 Dutch @ 6.534
8 Norwegian @ 9.189
9 German @ 9.824
10 Swedish @ 11.451
165 iterations.



Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Orcadian +50% Southwest_English @ 4.268
2 50% Orcadian +50% Southeast_English @ 4.301
3 50% Southwest_English +50% West_Scottish @ 4.328
4 50% Orcadian +50% West_Scottish @ 4.410
5 50% West_Scottish +50% West_Scottish @ 4.458
6 50% Danish +50% West_Scottish @ 4.467
7 50% Danish +50% Southwest_English @ 4.491
8 50% Southeast_English +50% West_Scottish @ 4.509
9 50% Danish +50% Orcadian @ 4.586
10 50% Danish +50% Southeast_English @ 4.647
13695 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% West_Scottish +25% Orcadian +25% Southwest_English @ 3.984
2 50% Orcadian +25% Southwest_English +25% West_Scottish @ 4.128
3 50% Southwest_English +25% Orcadian +25% West_Scottish @ 4.131
4 50% Danish +25% Orcadian +25% Southwest_English @ 4.169
5 50% West_Scottish +25% Orcadian +25% Southeast_English @ 4.181
6 50% West_Scottish +25% Southwest_English +25% West_Scottish @ 4.185
7 50% West_Scottish +25% Danish +25% Southwest_English @ 4.196
8 50% Southwest_English +25% Danish +25% Orcadian @ 4.228
9 50% Orcadian +25% Southeast_English +25% Southwest_English @ 4.230
10 50% Orcadian +25% Danish +25% Southwest_English @ 4.230
329069 iterations.



Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Orcadian + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.984
2 Danish + Orcadian + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 4.043
3 Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 4.128
4 Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 4.131
5 Orcadian + Southeast_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 4.132
6 Danish + Danish + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 4.169
7 Orcadian + Southeast_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 4.181
8 Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 4.185
9 Danish + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 4.196
10 Danish + Orcadian + Southeast_English + Southwest_English @ 4.224
11 Irish + Orcadian + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 4.225
12 Danish + Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 4.228
13 Orcadian + Orcadian + Southeast_English + Southwest_English @ 4.230
14 Danish + Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 4.230
15 Danish + Orcadian + Southeast_English + West_Scottish @ 4.232
16 Orcadian + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + West_Scottish @ 4.243
17 Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 4.268
18 Orcadian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 4.272
19 Danish + Danish + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 4.274
20 Danish + Irish + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 4.274

Brother:

Population
North_Sea 29.92%
Atlantic 18.85%
Baltic 8.76%
Eastern_Euro 12.76%
West_Med 10.33%
West_Asian 6.55%
East_Med 7.66%
Red_Sea 1.58%
South_Asian 0.13%
Southeast_Asian 0.40%
Siberian 1.33%
Amerindian 1.43%
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.30%

Oracle:

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 German 9.06
2 French 10.05
3 Dutch 10.92
4 Hungarian 11.32
5 Serbian 12.11
6 Southwest_English 12.19
7 Austrian 12.42
8 Southeast_English 12.65
9 Norwegian 12.88
10 Danish 12.92
11 North_Swedish 13.04
12 Swedish 13.42
13 Orcadian 13.69
14 Irish 14.2
15 West_Scottish 14.3
16 Southwest_Finnish 15.38
17 Romanian 15.84
18 Spanish_Galicia 15.98
19 Portuguese 17.11
20 Finnish 17.12

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.8% Norwegian + 31.2% Ashkenazi @ 4.43
2 63.5% North_Swedish + 36.5% Tuscan @ 4.71
3 77.5% Norwegian + 22.5% Cyprian @ 4.77
4 73.2% Dutch + 26.8% Ashkenazi @ 4.94
5 67.1% Norwegian + 32.9% Greek @ 5.01
6 74.3% Norwegian + 25.7% Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.1
7 53.6% Serbian + 46.4% Orcadian @ 5.11
8 81.1% Dutch + 18.9% Cyprian @ 5.21
9 79.7% Dutch + 20.3% Turkish @ 5.3
10 76.2% Norwegian + 23.8% Turkish @ 5.34
11 74.2% North_Swedish + 25.8% Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.36
12 82.7% Dutch + 17.3% Assyrian @ 5.36
13 83.3% Dutch + 16.7% Lebanese_Christian @ 5.38
14 78.3% Norwegian + 21.7% Lebanese_Muslim @ 5.4
15 81.6% Dutch + 18.4% Lebanese_Muslim @ 5.41
16 81.7% Dutch + 18.3% Syrian @ 5.41
17 83.1% Dutch + 16.9% Samaritan @ 5.46
18 67.8% Orcadian + 32.2% Ashkenazi @ 5.46
19 69.1% North_Swedish + 30.9% Ashkenazi @ 5.48
20 79.9% Norwegian + 20.1% Samaritan @ 5.48

Oracle-4:

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 German @ 10.344
2 French @ 11.519
3 Dutch @ 12.542
4 Hungarian @ 13.029
5 Southwest_English @ 14.070
6 Serbian @ 14.181
7 Austrian @ 14.360
8 Southeast_English @ 14.607
9 Norwegian @ 14.841
10 Danish @ 14.898
165 iterations.



Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Orcadian +50% Serbian @ 5.784
2 50% Norwegian +50% Serbian @ 6.302
3 50% Dutch +50% Serbian @ 6.359
4 50% Orcadian +50% Romanian @ 6.435
5 50% Danish +50% Serbian @ 6.935
6 50% Norwegian +50% Romanian @ 6.941
7 50% Serbian +50% Southwest_English @ 7.175
8 50% Serbian +50% Southeast_English @ 7.269
9 50% North_Italian +50% North_Swedish @ 7.291
10 50% Serbian +50% West_Scottish @ 7.342
13695 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Dutch +25% Ashkenazi +25% North_Swedish @ 4.950
2 50% North_Swedish +25% Ashkenazi +25% Southwest_English @ 5.056
3 50% North_Swedish +25% Ashkenazi +25% French @ 5.172
4 50% Norwegian +25% Ashkenazi +25% German @ 5.349
5 50% Dutch +25% Ashkenazi +25% Norwegian @ 5.351
6 50% North_Swedish +25% Ashkenazi +25% Southeast_English @ 5.361
7 50% Norwegian +25% North_Swedish +25% Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.371
8 50% Norwegian +25% Ashkenazi +25% Dutch @ 5.379
9 50% North_Swedish +25% Ashkenazi +25% Dutch @ 5.383
10 50% Orcadian +25% Ashkenazi +25% East_Finnish @ 5.383
521672 iterations.



Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Ashkenazi + Dutch + Dutch + North_Swedish @ 4.950
2 Ashkenazi + North_Swedish + North_Swedish + Southwest_English @ 5.056
3 Ashkenazi + North_Swedish + Norwegian + Southwest_English @ 5.079
4 Ashkenazi + Dutch + North_Swedish + Norwegian @ 5.103
5 Ashkenazi + French + North_Swedish + Norwegian @ 5.110
6 Ashkenazi + Dutch + North_Swedish + Orcadian @ 5.156
7 Ashkenazi + French + North_Swedish + North_Swedish @ 5.172
8 Ashkenazi + German + North_Swedish + Norwegian @ 5.192
9 Ashkenazi + Dutch + North_Swedish + Southwest_English @ 5.209
10 Ashkenazi + German + North_Swedish + Orcadian @ 5.223
11 Ashkenazi + Dutch + German + North_Swedish @ 5.269
12 Ashkenazi + North_Swedish + Norwegian + Southeast_English @ 5.333
13 Ashkenazi + German + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 5.349
14 Ashkenazi + Dutch + Dutch + Norwegian @ 5.351
15 Ashkenazi + Danish + Dutch + North_Swedish @ 5.356
16 Ashkenazi + North_Swedish + North_Swedish + Southeast_English @ 5.361
17 North_Swedish + Norwegian + Norwegian + Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.371
18 Ashkenazi + Dutch + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 5.379
19 Ashkenazi + Dutch + North_Swedish + North_Swedish @ 5.383
20 Ashkenazi + East_Finnish + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 5.383


Paternal Grandfather:

Population
North_Sea 9.20%
Atlantic 13.30%
Baltic 6.18%
Eastern_Euro 1.49%
West_Med 14.43%
West_Asian 16.92%
East_Med 32.89%
Red_Sea 4.85%
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.72%
Sub-Saharan -

Oracle:

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Sephardic_Jewish 7.56
2 Ashkenazi 8.18
3 Cyprian 11.35
4 Greek 11.61
5 Lebanese_Muslim 14.18
6 Tuscan 14.73
7 Syrian 15.92
8 Turkish 16.12
9 Samaritan 18.1
10 Lebanese_Christian 18.89
11 Jordanian 18.95
12 Bulgarian 19
13 Assyrian 19.22
14 Lebanese_Druze 19.3
15 Palestinian 19.72
16 Romanian 21.13
17 North_Italian 21.23
18 Armenian 21.62
19 Bedouin 22.36
20 Kurdish 23.18

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 79.1% Cyprian + 20.9% Irish @ 3.09
2 78.4% Cyprian + 21.6% Southeast_English @ 3.15
3 79.4% Cyprian + 20.6% West_Scottish @ 3.24
4 78.3% Cyprian + 21.7% Southwest_English @ 3.28
5 77% Cyprian + 23% German @ 3.32
6 79.1% Cyprian + 20.9% Danish @ 3.4
7 79.8% Cyprian + 20.2% Orcadian @ 3.63
8 78.8% Cyprian + 21.2% Dutch @ 3.63
9 74.6% Cyprian + 25.4% French @ 3.73
10 57.1% Tuscan + 42.9% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.73
11 79.9% Cyprian + 20.1% Swedish @ 3.95
12 80% Cyprian + 20% Norwegian @ 3.95
13 52.5% Lebanese_Druze + 47.5% North_Italian @ 4.17
14 51% Lebanese_Muslim + 49% Tuscan @ 4.28
15 73.6% Cyprian + 26.4% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.37
16 60.7% Lebanese_Muslim + 39.3% North_Italian @ 4.45
17 57.4% Cyprian + 42.6% Tuscan @ 4.47
18 74.7% Cyprian + 25.3% Austrian @ 4.48
19 56.7% Tuscan + 43.3% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.58
20 57.2% Tuscan + 42.8% Assyrian @ 4.61

Oracle-4:

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Sephardic_Jewish @ 8.572
2 Ashkenazi @ 9.755
3 Cyprian @ 13.131
4 Greek @ 13.694
5 Lebanese_Muslim @ 16.264
6 Tuscan @ 17.378
7 Syrian @ 17.994
8 Turkish @ 18.510
9 Samaritan @ 20.799
10 Jordanian @ 21.153
165 iterations.



Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Lebanese_Druze +50% North_Italian @ 5.009
2 50% Lebanese_Druze +50% Tuscan @ 5.021
3 50% Lebanese_Muslim +50% Tuscan @ 5.053
4 50% Cyprian +50% Tuscan @ 5.539
5 50% Lebanese_Christian +50% Tuscan @ 5.657
6 50% Lebanese_Christian +50% North_Italian @ 5.718
7 50% Cyprian +50% Greek @ 6.017
8 50% Assyrian +50% Tuscan @ 6.036
9 50% Greek +50% Lebanese_Muslim @ 6.222
10 50% Assyrian +50% North_Italian @ 6.379
13695 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Tuscan +25% Assyrian +25% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.877
2 50% Tuscan +25% Cyprian +25% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.077
3 50% North_Italian +25% Assyrian +25% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.134
4 50% Cyprian +25% Cyprian +25% German @ 4.150
5 50% Tuscan +25% Lebanese_Druze +25% Lebanese_Muslim @ 4.168
6 50% Cyprian +25% Cyprian +25% French @ 4.287
7 50% Cyprian +25% Cyprian +25% Southeast_English @ 4.295
8 50% Tuscan +25% Assyrian +25% Cyprian @ 4.348
9 50% Cyprian +25% Cyprian +25% Southwest_English @ 4.386
10 50% Tuscan +25% Armenian +25% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.401
486541 iterations.



Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Assyrian + Lebanese_Druze + North_Italian + Tuscan @ 3.501
2 Assyrian + Greek + Lebanese_Druze + Spanish_Murcia @ 3.792
3 Assyrian + Greek + Lebanese_Druze + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.816
4 Assyrian + Greek + Lebanese_Druze + Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.833
5 Assyrian + Lebanese_Druze + Tuscan + Tuscan @ 3.877
6 Assyrian + Greek + Lebanese_Druze + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.886
7 Assyrian + Greek + Lebanese_Druze + North_Italian @ 3.900
8 Assyrian + Greek + Lebanese_Druze + Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.914
9 Greek + Lebanese_Druze + Lebanese_Muslim + North_Italian @ 3.940
10 Cyprian + Greek + Lebanese_Druze + North_Italian @ 4.028
11 Assyrian + Greek + Lebanese_Druze + Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.070
12 Cyprian + Lebanese_Druze + Tuscan + Tuscan @ 4.077
13 Assyrian + Greek + Lebanese_Druze + Spanish_Aragon @ 4.095
14 Assyrian + Greek + Lebanese_Druze + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.102
15 Assyrian + Lebanese_Druze + North_Italian + North_Italian @ 4.134
16 Assyrian + Greek + Lebanese_Druze + Portuguese @ 4.138
17 Cyprian + Greek + Lebanese_Druze + Tuscan @ 4.138
18 Cyprian + Cyprian + Cyprian + German @ 4.150
19 Lebanese_Druze + Lebanese_Muslim + Tuscan + Tuscan @ 4.168
20 Bulgarian + Cyprian + Lebanese_Druze + Tuscan @ 4.191

Aila
10-07-2013, 05:49 PM
Mine ...

Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 29.63
2 Eastern_Euro 23.36
3 Baltic 21.27
4 Atlantic 11.66
5 Siberian 7.1
6 West_Asian 2.42
7 West_Med 2.28
8 Amerindian 1.78
9 Sub-Saharan 0.48
10 Red_Sea 0.01


Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 East_Finnish 5.65
2 Finnish 6.93
3 Southwest_Finnish 10.55
4 Kargopol_Russian 11.13
5 Estonian 11.59
6 Ukrainian 13.1
7 Erzya 13.58
8 Ukrainian_West 13.92
9 Polish 14.08
10 North_Swedish 14.27
11 Russian 14.46
12 Ukrainian_Northeast 15.5
13 Belorussian 16.07
14 Hungarian 16.44
15 Lithuanian 17.78
16 Swedish 18.82
17 Austrian 19.53
18 Norwegian 19.84
19 German 21.24
20 Dutch 21.45

SSlava
10-07-2013, 06:51 PM
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 31.26
2 Eastern_Euro 20.44
3 North_Sea 20.12
4 Atlantic 14.45
5 West_Med 6.36
6 West_Asian 4.7
7 Red_Sea 1.3
8 Southeast_Asian 0.69
9 Oceanian 0.65
10 Siberian 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Russian 3.73
2 Ukrainian_Northeast 4.69
3 Belorussian 4.8
4 Ukrainian 5.3
5 Polish 5.64
6 Ukrainian_West 5.93
7 Lithuanian 6.56
8 Estonian 8.95
9 Kargopol_Russian 10.2
10 Erzya 11.47
11 East_Finnish 13.44
12 Finnish 13.91
13 Hungarian 14.26
14 Southwest_Finnish 15.08
15 Austrian 16.34
16 Serbian 19.76
17 North_Swedish 21.28
18 Romanian 21.85
19 German 23.49
20 Bulgarian 23.88

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 57.2% Ukrainian + 42.8% Lithuanian @ 3.02
2 53.4% Ukrainian_West + 46.6% Lithuanian @ 3.12
3 74.4% Russian + 25.6% Lithuanian @ 3.16
4 82.3% Russian + 17.7% Estonian @ 3.27
5 55.4% Polish + 44.6% Lithuanian @ 3.37
6 54.5% Belorussian + 45.5% Ukrainian @ 3.38
7 75.8% Russian + 24.2% Ukrainian_West @ 3.39
8 58.8% Belorussian + 41.2% Ukrainian_West @ 3.39
9 70.5% Russian + 29.5% Belorussian @ 3.45
10 74.6% Russian + 25.4% Ukrainian @ 3.47
11 78.5% Russian + 21.5% Polish @ 3.53
12 96.7% Russian + 3.3% Swedish @ 3.64
13 56.5% Ukrainian_Northeast + 43.5% Ukrainian @ 3.64
14 97.5% Russian + 2.5% Norwegian @ 3.67
15 98% Russian + 2% Dutch @ 3.69
16 98.3% Russian + 1.7% Orcadian @ 3.69
17 98.4% Russian + 1.6% Irish @ 3.7
18 98% Russian + 2% North_Swedish @ 3.7
19 98.6% Russian + 1.4% West_Scottish @ 3.7
20 98.6% Russian + 1.4% Southwest_English @ 3.7

Thor2009
10-07-2013, 07:00 PM
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 35
2 Atlantic 28.77
3 West_Med 11.92
4 Eastern_Euro 9.45
5 Baltic 9.31
6 West_Asian 2.2
7 Red_Sea 1.2
8 East_Med 1.18
9 Sub-Saharan 0.98

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_English 2.38
2 Southeast_English 3.88
3 Dutch 5.35
4 Danish 5.42
5 Irish 5.57
6 West_Scottish 5.65
7 German 6.52
8 Orcadian 6.82
9 Norwegian 9.01
10 French 9.34
11 Swedish 10.59
12 North_Swedish 12.83
13 Spanish_Cataluna 16.45
14 Spanish_Galicia 16.57
15 Southwest_Finnish 16.96
16 Austrian 17.11
17 Portuguese 17.67
18 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 17.72
19 Hungarian 17.9
20 Spanish_Cantabria 18.51

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 99.1% Southwest_English + 0.9% Yoruban @ 2.13
2 99.1% Southwest_English + 0.9% Mandenka @ 2.13
3 99.1% Southwest_English + 0.9% Bantu_S.W. @ 2.14
4 99.1% Southwest_English + 0.9% Bantu_S.E. @ 2.14
5 99.1% Southwest_English + 0.9% Biaka_Pygmy @ 2.16
6 99% Southwest_English + 1% Luhya @ 2.17
7 99% Southwest_English + 1% Bantu_N.E. @ 2.17
8 99.1% Southwest_English + 0.9% Mbuti_Pygmy @ 2.19
9 99.1% Southwest_English + 0.9% San @ 2.23
10 74.7% Orcadian + 25.3% Southwest_French @ 2.23
11 99.2% Southwest_English + 0.8% Sudanese @ 2.27
12 99.3% Southwest_English + 0.7% Ethiopian_Anuak @ 2.3
13 98.5% Southwest_English + 1.5% Chuvash @ 2.3
14 74.1% Orcadian + 25.9% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.31
15 99.3% Southwest_English + 0.7% Sandawe @ 2.31
16 98.8% Southwest_English + 1.2% Mozabite_Berber @ 2.31
17 99.3% Southwest_English + 0.7% Maasai @ 2.32
18 97.9% Southwest_English + 2.1% East_Finnish @ 2.33
19 98.9% Southwest_English + 1.1% Moroccan @ 2.33
20 98.4% Southwest_English + 1.6% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.33


This is probably the most accurate one of these that I've done so far. It agrees almost exactly with McDonald's BGA analysis.

SSlava
10-07-2013, 07:10 PM
interesting calculator, I like the shows correctly in oracle.

Transhumanist
10-07-2013, 08:08 PM
EASTERN ASSYRIAN

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 39.82
2 West_Asian 32.55
3 Red_Sea 8.51
4 West_Med 6.14
5 South_Asian 4.74
6 Atlantic 4.17
7 Baltic 2.23
8 Eastern_Euro 1.84

# Population (source) Distance
1 Assyrian 3.5
2 Armenian 8.04
3 Kurdish 9.37
4 Lebanese_Muslim 10.47
5 Iranian 11.01
6 Turkish 11.48
7 Syrian 12.82
8 Lebanese_Christian 14.47
9 Cyprian 14.97
10 Lebanese_Druze 15.08
11 Samaritan 16.87
12 Jordanian 17.81
13 Palestinian 18.74
14 Sephardic_Jewish 21.78
15 Bedouin 22.27
16 Ashkenazi 24.37
17 Kumyk 24.54
18 Georgian 25.89
19 Adygei 28.04
20 Egyptian 28.76

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.4% Assyrian + 15.6% Kurdish @ 3.1
2 86.8% Assyrian + 13.2% Iranian @ 3.11
3 96.2% Assyrian + 3.8% Abhkasian @ 3.31
4 96.9% Assyrian + 3.1% Brahui @ 3.33
5 96.6% Assyrian + 3.4% Makrani @ 3.33
6 97% Assyrian + 3% Balochi @ 3.33
7 96.2% Assyrian + 3.8% Georgian @ 3.35
8 96.9% Assyrian + 3.1% North_Ossetian @ 3.36
9 96.7% Assyrian + 3.3% Adygei @ 3.37
10 98.2% Assyrian + 1.8% Sindhi @ 3.38
11 98.9% Assyrian + 1.1% Velamas @ 3.4
12 98.3% Assyrian + 1.7% Burusho @ 3.4
13 98.3% Assyrian + 1.7% Pathan @ 3.4
14 98.9% Assyrian + 1.1% Kurumba @ 3.41
15 97.4% Assyrian + 2.6% Balkar @ 3.41
16 98.8% Assyrian + 1.2% Kshatriya @ 3.41
17 99% Assyrian + 1% Piramalai @ 3.41
18 98.9% Assyrian + 1.1% Kanjar @ 3.41
19 98.9% Assyrian + 1.1% Dharkar @ 3.42
20 98.8% Assyrian + 1.2% Gujarati @ 3.42


SOUTH IRAQI MANDAEAN 1

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 40.09
2 West_Asian 30.8
3 Red_Sea 8.74
4 West_Med 6.99
5 South_Asian 5.89
6 North_Sea 3.62
7 Atlantic 2.74
8 Amerindian 0.81
9 Eastern_Euro 0.34

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Assyrian 3.46
2 Armenian 8.44
3 Lebanese_Muslim 9.7
4 Kurdish 10.72
5 Syrian 11.7
6 Iranian 11.85
7 Turkish 12.37
8 Lebanese_Christian 13.32
9 Lebanese_Druze 13.86
10 Cyprian 14.39
11 Samaritan 15.73
12 Jordanian 16.79
13 Palestinian 17.64
14 Sephardic_Jewish 21
15 Bedouin 21.36
16 Ashkenazi 23.62
17 Kumyk 25.6
18 Georgian 27.31
19 Egyptian 27.83
20 Greek 29.17

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 97.8% Assyrian + 2.2% Piramalai @ 2.99
2 97.6% Assyrian + 2.4% Velamas @ 2.99
3 97.7% Assyrian + 2.3% Kurumba @ 3
4 97.9% Assyrian + 2.1% Chamar @ 3
5 97.7% Assyrian + 2.3% Dusadh @ 3.01
6 97.8% Assyrian + 2.2% Kol @ 3.03
7 97.8% Assyrian + 2.2% Chenchu @ 3.03
8 97.8% Assyrian + 2.2% Uttar_Pradesh @ 3.05
9 97.9% Assyrian + 2.1% North_Kannadi @ 3.06
10 97.7% Assyrian + 2.3% Dharkar @ 3.06
11 97.8% Assyrian + 2.2% Kanjar @ 3.08
12 97.6% Assyrian + 2.4% Gujarati @ 3.11
13 97.7% Assyrian + 2.3% Kshatriya @ 3.12
14 97.6% Assyrian + 2.4% Brahmin_UP @ 3.14
15 97.8% Assyrian + 2.2% Bangladeshi @ 3.14
16 97.1% Assyrian + 2.9% Sindhi @ 3.15
17 98.2% Assyrian + 1.8% Austroasiatic_Ho @ 3.16
18 96% Assyrian + 4% Makrani @ 3.21
19 97.6% Assyrian + 2.4% Punjabi_Jat @ 3.24
20 96.6% Assyrian + 3.4% Brahui @ 3.24


SOUTH IRAQI MANDAEAN 2

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 43.26
2 West_Asian 29.38
3 Red_Sea 10.76
4 South_Asian 5.04
5 West_Med 4.15
6 North_Sea 3.05
7 Eastern_Euro 2.93
8 Northeast_African 0.88
9 Amerindian 0.55

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Assyrian 6.07
2 Lebanese_Muslim 10.53
3 Syrian 11.82
4 Armenian 12.15
5 Lebanese_Druze 12.19
6 Lebanese_Christian 12.27
7 Kurdish 12.98
8 Iranian 13.42
9 Samaritan 15.02
10 Jordanian 15.35
11 Turkish 15.73
12 Palestinian 15.88
13 Cyprian 16.1
14 Bedouin 19.81
15 Sephardic_Jewish 23.13
16 Ashkenazi 25.7
17 Egyptian 26.59
18 Kumyk 28.33
19 Yemenite_Jewish 28.51
20 Saudi 29.02

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.8% Assyrian + 12.2% Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.63
2 88.8% Assyrian + 11.2% Saudi @ 4.89
3 71.9% Armenian + 28.1% Yemenite_Jewish @ 5.26
4 52.9% Lebanese_Druze + 47.1% Iranian @ 5.38
5 84.8% Assyrian + 15.2% Palestinian @ 5.45
6 80.5% Assyrian + 19.5% Lebanese_Druze @ 5.47
7 52.7% Lebanese_Christian + 47.3% Iranian @ 5.52
8 88.7% Assyrian + 11.3% Bedouin @ 5.57
9 86.2% Assyrian + 13.8% Jordanian @ 5.62
10 84.3% Assyrian + 15.7% Lebanese_Christian @ 5.72
11 93.7% Assyrian + 6.3% Egyptian @ 5.81
12 52% Lebanese_Druze + 48% Kurdish @ 5.84
13 90% Assyrian + 10% Samaritan @ 5.87
14 51.8% Lebanese_Christian + 48.2% Kurdish @ 5.88
15 88.2% Assyrian + 11.8% Syrian @ 5.91
16 98% Assyrian + 2% Ethiopian_Tigray @ 5.94
17 98.2% Assyrian + 1.8% Ethiopian_Amhara @ 5.95
18 99% Assyrian + 1% Ethiopian_Oromo @ 6.03
19 99.1% Assyrian + 0.9% Somali @ 6.03
20 99.3% Assyrian + 0.7% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 6.04

Atlantic Islander
10-07-2013, 08:27 PM
YAY, A NEW ONE!

Jackson
10-07-2013, 08:28 PM
YAY, A NEW ONE!

That was my reaction :D

Equilibrium
10-07-2013, 08:28 PM
YAY, A NEW ONE!

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/image.php?u=4495&dateline=1381125212


:p

amerinese
10-07-2013, 08:35 PM
Cross-posted from the Eurogenes thread:


Me:

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 23.75
2 Atlantic 21.63
3 Southeast_Asian 14.96
4 West_Med 7.75
5 Baltic 7.14
6 Siberian 6.59
7 West_Asian 6.54
8 Eastern_Euro 5.17
9 East_Med 2.59
10 Oceanian 1.32
11 Amerindian 1.18
12 South_Asian 0.55
13 Red_Sea 0.5
14 Sub-Saharan 0.33

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 French 20.05
2 German 20.29
3 Southwest_English 21.59
4 Austrian 21.75
5 Southeast_English 21.8
6 Dutch 22
7 Danish 22.19
8 Hungarian 22.28
9 Irish 22.5
10 Serbian 22.52
11 West_Scottish 22.83
12 Spanish_Galicia 22.96
13 Spanish_Cataluna 22.98
14 Orcadian 23.32
15 North_Swedish 23.34
16 Portuguese 23.37
17 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 23.57
18 Norwegian 23.61
19 Swedish 23.78
20 Spanish_Murcia 23.82

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76% German + 24% Tu @ 4.55
2 77.1% German + 22.9% Japanese @ 4.55
3 74.8% Southwest_English + 25.2% Tu @ 4.59
4 74.6% Southeast_English + 25.4% Tu @ 4.78
5 76% Southwest_English + 24% Japanese @ 4.83
6 77.8% German + 22.2% Naxi @ 4.91
7 77.9% German + 22.1% Yizu @ 4.96
8 75.9% Southeast_English + 24.1% Japanese @ 5.06
9 76.7% Southwest_English + 23.3% Naxi @ 5.29
10 76.8% Southwest_English + 23.2% Yizu @ 5.36
11 76.5% Southeast_English + 23.5% Naxi @ 5.5
12 76.6% Southeast_English + 23.4% Yizu @ 5.57
13 76.1% German + 23.9% Xibo @ 5.58
14 74.9% Southwest_English + 25.1% Xibo @ 5.62
15 74.2% Irish + 25.8% Tu @ 5.75
16 74.7% Southeast_English + 25.3% Xibo @ 5.79
17 76.5% German + 23.5% Hezhen @ 5.8
18 75.3% Southwest_English + 24.7% Hezhen @ 5.9
19 77.7% French + 22.3% Japanese @ 5.97
20 76.6% French + 23.4% Tu @ 6.03


Paternal grandmother:

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 30.94
2 North_Sea 30.7
3 Baltic 8.89
4 West_Med 8.72
5 Eastern_Euro 8.34
6 West_Asian 7.13
7 South_Asian 1.37
8 East_Med 1.27
9 Oceanian 0.8
10 Southeast_Asian 0.76
11 Amerindian 0.69
12 Sub-Saharan 0.4

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southeast_English 5.66
2 Southwest_English 5.97
3 Irish 6.56
4 German 6.61
5 Danish 7.04
6 West_Scottish 7.21
7 Dutch 8.47
8 French 9.89
9 Orcadian 10.03
10 Norwegian 12.06
11 Swedish 13.07
12 North_Swedish 14.79
13 Austrian 15.28
14 Spanish_Cataluna 16.16
15 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 17.39
16 Southwest_Finnish 17.4
17 Hungarian 17.49
18 Spanish_Galicia 17.49
19 Portuguese 17.95
20 Spanish_Cantabria 18.46

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 92.1% Southeast_English + 7.9% Balkar @ 3.96
2 92.5% Southeast_English + 7.5% North_Ossetian @ 3.98
3 92% Southeast_English + 8% Chechen @ 4.02
4 92.4% Southeast_English + 7.6% Adygei @ 4.05
5 93.7% Southeast_English + 6.3% Abhkasian @ 4.14
6 93.5% Southeast_English + 6.5% Georgian @ 4.22
7 91.5% Southeast_English + 8.5% Nogay @ 4.23
8 92.2% Southeast_English + 7.8% Kumyk @ 4.25
9 91.7% Southeast_English + 8.3% Tadjik @ 4.28
10 92.4% Southeast_English + 7.6% Lezgin @ 4.3
11 90.6% Irish + 9.4% Balkar @ 4.4
12 93.7% Southeast_English + 6.3% Balochi @ 4.46
13 93.9% Southeast_English + 6.1% Burusho @ 4.47
14 93.9% Southeast_English + 6.1% Brahui @ 4.48
15 91% Irish + 9% Adygei @ 4.52
16 92.3% Irish + 7.7% Abhkasian @ 4.53
17 92.2% Southwest_English + 7.8% Chechen @ 4.54
18 93.9% Southeast_English + 6.1% Makrani @ 4.54
19 92.7% Southwest_English + 7.3% North_Ossetian @ 4.55
20 91.3% Irish + 8.7% North_Ossetian @ 4.55

Damiăo de Góis
10-07-2013, 08:47 PM
Oracle came out not so accurate to me:

http://oi39.tinypic.com/20i7uj5.jpg

http://oi43.tinypic.com/21l0f1l.jpg

http://oi41.tinypic.com/zv96bt.jpg

Atlantic Islander
10-07-2013, 08:47 PM
Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Admixture Proportions

Atlantic 28.61%
North_Sea 23.08%
West_Med 21.18%
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East_Med 12.34%
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Red_Sea 3.37%
Baltic 3.17%
Eastern_Euro 2.60%
Northeast_African 2.14%
West_Asian 1.21%
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Sub-Saharan 0.80%
Siberian 0.59%
Amerindian 0.45%
Oceanian 0.42%
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -

http://imageshack.us/a/img580/2162/xdm6.png

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 28.61
2 North_Sea 23.08
3 West_Med 21.18
4 East_Med 12.34
5 Red_Sea 3.37
6 Baltic 3.17
7 Eastern_Euro 2.6
8 Northeast_African 2.14
9 West_Asian 1.21
10 Sub-Saharan 0.8
11 Siberian 0.59
12 Amerindian 0.45
13 Oceanian 0.42
14 Southeast_Asian 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Murcia 3.72
2 Portuguese 3.96
3 Spanish_Extremadura 4.16
4 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 5.22
5 Spanish_Cataluna 5.27
6 Spanish_Galicia 5.71
7 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 7.1
8 Spanish_Valencia 7.23
9 Spanish_Cantabria 7.51
10 Spanish_Andalucia 7.87
11 Spanish_Aragon 8.26
12 North_Italian 9.83
13 Southwest_French 10.2
14 French 10.84
15 Tuscan 15.27
16 French_Basque 18.06
17 Southwest_English 18.4
18 German 19.48
19 Southeast_English 19.61
20 Serbian 20.22

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.5% Spanish_Murcia + 43.5% Portuguese @ 3.34
2 74.6% Spanish_Murcia + 25.4% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.37
3 94.8% Spanish_Murcia + 5.2% Orcadian @ 3.49
4 95.9% Spanish_Murcia + 4.1% Norwegian @ 3.55
5 94.7% Spanish_Murcia + 5.3% Southwest_English @ 3.58
6 91.2% Spanish_Murcia + 8.8% French @ 3.58
7 95.7% Spanish_Murcia + 4.3% Dutch @ 3.59
8 96.6% Spanish_Murcia + 3.4% Swedish @ 3.6
9 95.5% Spanish_Murcia + 4.5% Southeast_English @ 3.6
10 96.1% Spanish_Murcia + 3.9% West_Scottish @ 3.61
11 96.1% Spanish_Murcia + 3.9% Danish @ 3.61
12 96.5% Spanish_Murcia + 3.5% Irish @ 3.64
13 97.5% Spanish_Murcia + 2.5% North_Swedish @ 3.65
14 79.9% Spanish_Murcia + 20.1% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.68
15 97.8% Spanish_Murcia + 2.2% German @ 3.69
16 99.4% Spanish_Murcia + 0.6% Ethiopian_Tigray @ 3.69
17 99.4% Spanish_Murcia + 0.6% Ethiopian_Amhara @ 3.69
18 99.5% Spanish_Murcia + 0.5% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 3.7
19 99.5% Spanish_Murcia + 0.5% Ethiopian_Oromo @ 3.7
20 99.5% Spanish_Murcia + 0.5% Somali @ 3.7

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 4-Ancestors Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 29.28
2 North_Sea 23.63
3 West_Med 21.68
4 East_Med 12.63
5 Red_Sea 3.45
6 Baltic 3.25
7 Eastern_Euro 2.66
8 Northeast_African 2.19
9 West_Asian 1.24


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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Spanish_Murcia @ 4.723
2 Portuguese @ 5.236
3 Spanish_Extremadura @ 5.293
4 Spanish_Cataluna @ 6.125
5 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 6.350
6 Spanish_Galicia @ 7.088
7 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 8.270
8 Spanish_Valencia @ 8.360
9 Spanish_Cantabria @ 8.719
10 Spanish_Andalucia @ 9.353
165 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Portuguese +50% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.487
2 50% Spanish_Murcia +50% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.723
3 50% Spanish_Extremadura +50% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.837
4 50% Spanish_Galicia +50% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.838
5 50% Portuguese +50% Spanish_Extremadura @ 5.027
6 50% Spanish_Cataluna +50% Spanish_Murcia @ 5.088
7 50% Portuguese +50% Portuguese @ 5.236
8 50% Spanish_Cataluna +50% Spanish_Extremadura @ 5.253
9 50% Spanish_Extremadura +50% Spanish_Extremadura @ 5.293
10 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +50% Spanish_Murcia @ 5.306
13695 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Spanish_Murcia +25% Spanish_Galicia +25% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.431
2 50% Spanish_Murcia +25% Portuguese +25% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.477
3 50% Portuguese +25% Spanish_Murcia +25% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.487
4 50% Spanish_Murcia +25% Portuguese +25% Portuguese @ 4.487
5 50% Spanish_Murcia +25% Portuguese +25% Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.599
6 50% Spanish_Murcia +25% Portuguese +25% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.601
7 50% Spanish_Murcia +25% Spanish_Extremadura +25% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.626
8 50% Spanish_Murcia +25% Portuguese +25% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.684
9 50% Portuguese +25% Spanish_Extremadura +25% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.718
10 50% Spanish_Murcia +25% Spanish_Murcia +25% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.723
441477 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.431
2 Portuguese + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.477
3 Portuguese + Portuguese + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.487
4 Portuguese + Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.599
5 Portuguese + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.601
6 Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.626
7 Portuguese + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.684
8 Portuguese + Portuguese + Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.718
9 Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.723
10 Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.734
11 Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.738
12 Portuguese + Portuguese + Portuguese + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.754
13 Portuguese + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.803
14 Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.805
15 Portuguese + Portuguese + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.811
16 Portuguese + Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.812
17 Portuguese + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.817
18 Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.832
19 Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.837
20 Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.838
1623776 iterations.

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle-x Population Fitting

Pct. Calc. Option 1

1 Spanish_Murcia 67.03%
2 Portuguese 26.69%
3 Orcadian 4.60%
4 Algerian 1.62%
5 Spanish_Galicia 0.02%
6 Moroccan 0.02%
7 Mozabite_Berber 0.01%
8 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 0.01%
9 Spanish_Cataluna 0.00%
10 Spanish_Extremadura 0.00%

Pct. Calc. Option 2

1 Spanish_Murcia 58.13%
2 Portuguese 18.02%
3 Orcadian 6.85%
4 Algerian 6.18%
5 Spanish_Galicia 5.50%
6 Spanish_Extremadura 3.14%
7 Spanish_Cantabria 1.10%
8 Spanish_Cataluna 1.09%
9 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 0.00%
10 French 0.00%

Scarlet Ibis
10-07-2013, 08:51 PM
Here's my results. I'll post results for the rest of my family shortly:

1) North_Sea 34.34
2) Atlantic 24.73
3) Baltic 11.82
4) Eastern_Euro 8.91
5) West_Med 8.52
6) East_Med 4.31
7) West_Asian 3.67
8) Red_Sea 1.7
9) South_Asian 0.89
10) Sub-Saharan 0.56
11) Oceanian 0.41
12) Amerindian 0.13
13) Northeast_African 0.01


Did Sephardic Jews have significant immigration to the UK? It seems interesting.




I was looking at the Amerindian component of my dad's results, and it appears like he has 0% this time. However, if paper trails are correct (and sometimes they aren't), we have some Amerindian ancestry, although it could be too small to have survived recombination over the generations.


North_Sea 35.68%
Atlantic 27.92%
Baltic 13.50%
Eastern_Euro 10.57%
West_Med 8.69%
West_Asian 1.28%
East_Med -
Red_Sea 1.94%
South_Asian 0.18%
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.23%
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -


Using 1 population approximation:
1 Dutch @ 4.250
2 Danish @ 5.121
3 Irish @ 5.508
4 West_Scottish @ 5.673
5 Southeast_English @ 5.969
6 Southwest_English @ 6.277
7 Orcadian @ 6.650
8 Norwegian @ 6.990
9 German @ 7.030
10 Swedish @ 8.038
165 iterations.



Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Dutch +50% Irish @ 3.949
2 50% Dutch +50% West_Scottish @ 4.119
3 50% Danish +50% Dutch @ 4.142
4 50% Southwest_English +50% Swedish @ 4.200
5 50% Dutch +50% Dutch @ 4.250
6 50% Norwegian +50% Southwest_English @ 4.323
7 50% Irish +50% Norwegian @ 4.396
8 50% Dutch +50% Southeast_English @ 4.409
9 50% North_Swedish +50% Southwest_English @ 4.434
10 50% Southeast_English +50% Swedish @ 4.438
13695 iterations.

Anyway, I posted my results and mom's here (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?19121-Eurogenes-Biogeographic-Ancestry-Project&p=1973898&viewfull=1#post1973898). I didn't know this thread existed until Equilibrium linked it.

Jackson
10-07-2013, 08:54 PM
Did Sephardic Jews have significant immigration to the UK? It seems interesting.




I was looking at the Amerindian component of my dad's results, and it appears like he has 0% this time. If paper trails are correct (and sometimes they aren't), we have some Amerindian ancestry, although it could be too small to have survived recombination over the generations.


North_Sea 35.68%
Atlantic 27.92%
Baltic 13.50%
Eastern_Euro 10.57%
West_Med 8.69%
West_Asian 1.28%
East_Med -
Red_Sea 1.94%
South_Asian 0.18%
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.23%
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -


Using 1 population approximation:
1 Dutch @ 4.250
2 Danish @ 5.121
3 Irish @ 5.508
4 West_Scottish @ 5.673
5 Southeast_English @ 5.969
6 Southwest_English @ 6.277
7 Orcadian @ 6.650
8 Norwegian @ 6.990
9 German @ 7.030
10 Swedish @ 8.038
165 iterations.



Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Dutch +50% Irish @ 3.949
2 50% Dutch +50% West_Scottish @ 4.119
3 50% Danish +50% Dutch @ 4.142
4 50% Southwest_English +50% Swedish @ 4.200
5 50% Dutch +50% Dutch @ 4.250
6 50% Norwegian +50% Southwest_English @ 4.323
7 50% Irish +50% Norwegian @ 4.396
8 50% Dutch +50% Southeast_English @ 4.409
9 50% North_Swedish +50% Southwest_English @ 4.434
10 50% Southeast_English +50% Swedish @ 4.438
13695 iterations.

I don't know to be honest, quite possibly. It's something i need to research. I'm not sure whether it's Italian or Jewish at the moment, although given the fact that it shows up as Italian in AC, and i have Italian matches there and on GEDmatch that seems more likely, but got to keep an open mind as i don't know the facts about it yet. :)

sgc2009
10-07-2013, 09:20 PM
Paternal grandfather's results:

1 North_Sea 31.26
2 Baltic 21.33
3 Eastern_Euro 18.89
4 Atlantic 17.58
5 Siberian 5.62
6 Amerindian 1.48
7 West_Med 1.32
8 South_Asian 1.15
9 Southeast_Asian 0.9
10 Oceanian 0.33
11 Sub-Saharan 0.1
12 West_Asian 0.05

1 Finnish 2.42
2 Southwest_Finnish 5.1
3 East_Finnish 7.15
4 North_Swedish 9.21
5 Estonian 10.22
6 Ukrainian 13.23
7 Polish 13.26
8 Swedish 13.71
9 Ukrainian_West 13.79
10 Kargopol_Russian 13.89
11 Hungarian 14.67
12 Norwegian 14.95
13 Russian 15.54
14 Belorussian 15.61
15 Ukrainian_Northeast 16.47
16 Dutch 16.68
17 German 16.75
18 Austrian 16.92
19 Erzya 17.57
20 Lithuanian 17.62

1 89.8% Finnish + 10.2% North_Swedish @ 2.2
2 95% Finnish + 5% Norwegian @ 2.29
3 94.7% Finnish + 5.3% Swedish @ 2.3
4 96.4% Finnish + 3.6% Orcadian @ 2.32
5 97.6% Finnish + 2.4% West_Scottish @ 2.37
6 97.6% Finnish + 2.4% Danish @ 2.38
7 99.7% Finnish + 0.3% Pima @ 2.39
8 98.1% Finnish + 1.9% Irish @ 2.39
9 99.6% Finnish + 0.4% North_Amerindian @ 2.39
10 99.7% Finnish + 0.3% Mayan @ 2.4
11 98.2% Finnish + 1.8% Dutch @ 2.4
12 99.7% Finnish + 0.3% East_Greenlander @ 2.41
13 99.6% Finnish + 0.4% West_Greenlander @ 2.41
14 98.9% Finnish + 1.1% Southeast_English @ 2.41
15 99.8% Finnish + 0.2% Chukchi @ 2.42
16 99.9% Finnish + 0.1% Koryak @ 2.42
17 99.7% Finnish + 0.3% Southwest_English @ 2.42
18 100% Finnish + 0% Chamar @ 2.42
19 100% Finnish + 0% Abhkasian @ 2.42
20 100% Finnish + 0% Adygei @ 2.42

Scarlet Ibis
10-07-2013, 09:29 PM
Oracle came out not so accurate to me:

http://oi39.tinypic.com/20i7uj5.jpg

http://oi43.tinypic.com/21l0f1l.jpg

http://oi41.tinypic.com/zv96bt.jpg


Spain is #1 for both you and Atlantic Islander....I wonder if you were used as one of the reference samples for Portugal.

MfA_
10-07-2013, 09:36 PM
Spain is #1 for both you and Atlantic Islander....I wonder if you were used as one of the reference samples for Portugal.

I thought Eurogenes is free from calculator effect since It doesn't take participants(except a few rare supervised runs) as reference samples unlike Dodecad and MDLP..

Damiăo de Góis
10-07-2013, 09:36 PM
Spain is #1 for both you and Atlantic Islander....I wonder if you were used as one of the reference samples for Portugal.

I am PT2, so i'm not sure. Either way, normal resuts for me would be Portugal #1, then Galicia or Extremadura, and then the rest of spanish regions with Catalunya and Basque Country coming in last.

Mark
10-07-2013, 09:51 PM
Mine:

East_Med - 29.10%
Atlantic - 14.92%
West_Med - 12.85%
West_Asian - 11.82%
--------------------------------
Red_Sea - 9.21%
North_Sea - 8.69%
Baltic - 7.40%
Eastern_Euro - 3.32%
Northeast_African - 1.39%
--------------------------------
Siberian - 0.77%
Sub-Saharan - 0.45%
Oceanian - 0.08%
--------------------------------
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Amerindian -
--------------------------------

Scarlet Ibis
10-07-2013, 09:56 PM
I thought Eurogenes is free from calculator effect since It doesn't take participants(except a few rare supervised runs) as reference samples unlike Dodecad and MDLP..

Yeah, ok, I googled, and I see what you're talking about now. I saw where he had a "blog exchange" with Dienekes about this a year ago.

Maleficent
10-07-2013, 10:19 PM
Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.43
2 North_Sea 17.82
3 Atlantic 16.96
4 West_Med 11.09
5 West_Asian 10.5
6 Red_Sea 7.52
7 Eastern_Euro 4.99
8 Northeast_African 1.81
9 South_Asian 1.28
10 Baltic 0.51
11 Sub-Saharan 0.45
12 Amerindian 0.38
13 Oceanian 0.25

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ashkenazi 11.02
2 Tuscan 11.94
3 Sephardic_Jewish 14.3
4 Greek 14.98
5 North_Italian 16.37
6 Bulgarian 18.34
7 Romanian 18.58
8 Serbian 19.57
9 Spanish_Extremadura 20.66
10 Portuguese 20.92
11 Spanish_Murcia 20.97
12 Spanish_Galicia 21.52
13 Cyprian 21.92
14 Spanish_Cataluna 22.47
15 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 22.55
16 Spanish_Andalucia 22.73
17 Lebanese_Muslim 22.77
18 French 22.94
19 Syrian 23.02
20 Turkish 23.05

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.8% Samaritan + 46.2% Southeast_English @ 4.75
2 55.4% Samaritan + 44.6% West_Scottish @ 4.84
3 54.7% Samaritan + 45.3% Danish @ 4.93
4 54.5% French + 45.5% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.98
5 52.6% Lebanese_Christian + 47.4% Southeast_English @ 5.02
6 54.4% Palestinian + 45.6% Southwest_English @ 5.03
7 53.6% Samaritan + 46.4% Southwest_English @ 5.03
8 52.4% Lebanese_Christian + 47.6% Southwest_English @ 5.08
9 52.7% French + 47.3% Palestinian @ 5.15
10 55.2% Samaritan + 44.8% Irish @ 5.19
11 54.2% Lebanese_Christian + 45.8% West_Scottish @ 5.24
12 54.6% Palestinian + 45.4% Southeast_English @ 5.27
13 70.9% Sephardic_Jewish + 29.1% Orcadian @ 5.27
14 55.8% Samaritan + 44.2% Orcadian @ 5.27
15 53.5% Lebanese_Christian + 46.5% Danish @ 5.32
16 54% Lebanese_Christian + 46% Irish @ 5.53
17 52.6% Lebanese_Druze + 47.4% Southwest_English @ 5.56
18 54.8% French + 45.2% Lebanese_Christian @ 5.62
19 70.2% Sephardic_Jewish + 29.8% Danish @ 5.7
20 54.6% Lebanese_Christian + 45.4% Orcadian @ 5.73

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 4-Ancestors Oracle

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Ashkenazi @ 13.240
2 Tuscan @ 13.841
3 Sephardic_Jewish @ 16.747
4 Greek @ 17.559
5 North_Italian @ 18.979
6 Bulgarian @ 21.666
7 Romanian @ 22.016
8 Serbian @ 23.225
9 Spanish_Extremadura @ 24.231
10 Portuguese @ 24.537
165 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Lebanese_Christian +50% Southeast_English @ 6.456
2 50% Lebanese_Christian +50% Southwest_English @ 6.486
3 50% Samaritan +50% Southeast_English @ 6.587
4 50% French +50% Lebanese_Druze @ 6.595
5 50% French +50% Palestinian @ 6.690
6 50% Samaritan +50% Southwest_English @ 6.799
7 50% Lebanese_Druze +50% Southwest_English @ 6.868
8 50% Danish +50% Lebanese_Christian @ 6.999
9 50% Danish +50% Samaritan @ 7.065
10 50% Palestinian +50% Southwest_English @ 7.084
13695 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Lebanese_Druze +25% Orcadian +25% Spanish_Extremadura @ 5.541
2 50% Lebanese_Druze +25% Orcadian +25% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 5.581
3 50% Lebanese_Druze +25% Spanish_Extremadura +25% West_Scottish @ 5.668
4 50% Lebanese_Druze +25% Orcadian +25% Spanish_Cantabria @ 5.685
5 50% Lebanese_Druze +25% Orcadian +25% Spanish_Murcia @ 5.712
6 50% Lebanese_Druze +25% Orcadian +25% Spanish_Aragon @ 5.738
7 50% Lebanese_Druze +25% Danish +25% Spanish_Extremadura @ 5.772
8 50% Lebanese_Druze +25% Portuguese +25% West_Scottish @ 5.811
9 50% Lebanese_Druze +25% Orcadian +25% Portuguese @ 5.821
10 50% Lebanese_Druze +25% Spanish_Galicia +25% West_Scottish @ 5.852
484621 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Lebanese_Druze + Orcadian + Palestinian + Spanish_Extremadura @ 5.174
2 Lebanese_Druze + Orcadian + Palestinian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 5.208
3 Lebanese_Druze + Orcadian + Palestinian + Spanish_Murcia @ 5.211
4 Lebanese_Druze + Palestinian + Spanish_Extremadura + West_Scottish @ 5.365
5 Jordanian + Lebanese_Druze + Orcadian + Spanish_Murcia @ 5.390
6 Jordanian + Lebanese_Druze + Orcadian + Spanish_Extremadura @ 5.398
7 Lebanese_Druze + Orcadian + Palestinian + Spanish_Aragon @ 5.406
8 Lebanese_Druze + Orcadian + Palestinian + Portuguese @ 5.433
9 Jordanian + Lebanese_Druze + Orcadian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 5.441
10 Danish + Lebanese_Druze + Palestinian + Spanish_Extremadura @ 5.445
11 Lebanese_Druze + Palestinian + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish @ 5.455
12 Lebanese_Druze + Orcadian + Palestinian + Spanish_Cantabria @ 5.459
13 Lebanese_Christian + Orcadian + Palestinian + Spanish_Murcia @ 5.470
14 Lebanese_Druze + Palestinian + Portuguese + West_Scottish @ 5.478
15 Lebanese_Druze + Orcadian + Palestinian + Spanish_Cataluna @ 5.504
16 Danish + Lebanese_Druze + Palestinian + Spanish_Murcia @ 5.519
17 Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Druze + Orcadian + Spanish_Extremadura @ 5.528
18 Lebanese_Druze + Lebanese_Druze + Orcadian + Spanish_Extremadura @ 5.541
19 Jordanian + Lebanese_Druze + Spanish_Extremadura + West_Scottish @ 5.543
20 Lebanese_Druze + Orcadian + Samaritan + Spanish_Extremadura @ 5.544

1297683 iterations.

Done.

Elapsed time 1.2031 seconds.

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle-x Population Fitting

Pct. Calc. Option 1

1 Orcadian 25.97%
2 Lebanese_Druze 23.53%
3 Spanish_Extremadura 16.20%
4 Yemenite_Jewish 12.62%
5 Spanish_Murcia 10.19%
6 Armenian 8.94%
7 Sephardic_Jewish 2.55%
8 Algerian 0.00%
9 Ashkenazi 0.00%
10 West_Scottish 0.00%

Pct. Calc. Option 2

0 Unable to determine 0.01%
1 Ashkenazi 47.50%
2 West_Scottish 14.32%
3 Yemenite_Jewish 8.24%
4 Sephardic_Jewish 7.05%
5 Spanish_Murcia 6.70%
6 Southeast_English 4.94%
7 Lebanese_Druze 4.52%
8 Orcadian 3.63%
9 Palestinian 2.02%
10 Jordanian 1.08%

Maleficent
10-07-2013, 10:32 PM
Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 46.63
2 West_Asian 17.03
3 Red_Sea 14.61
4 West_Med 10.64
5 Atlantic 7.44
6 Northeast_African 3.02
7 South_Asian 0.63

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Samaritan 4.94
2 Palestinian 5.91
3 Lebanese_Christian 6.14
4 Lebanese_Druze 8.47
5 Jordanian 8.59
6 Lebanese_Muslim 9.04
7 Syrian 9.23
8 Cyprian 10.65
9 Bedouin 12.38
10 Sephardic_Jewish 15.23
11 Assyrian 16.34
12 Egyptian 17.29
13 Yemenite_Jewish 18.94
14 Saudi 21.5
15 Turkish 21.9
16 Ashkenazi 22.02
17 Armenian 22.92
18 Kurdish 24.66
19 Iranian 25.26
20 Greek 28.43

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.8% Palestinian + 48.2% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.14
2 61.3% Samaritan + 38.7% Palestinian @ 4.19
3 65.4% Cyprian + 34.6% Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.29
4 90.8% Samaritan + 9.2% Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.58
5 80.6% Lebanese_Christian + 19.4% Egyptian @ 4.66
6 83.3% Samaritan + 16.7% Jordanian @ 4.73
7 83.1% Samaritan + 16.9% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.73
8 93.9% Samaritan + 6.1% Saudi @ 4.76
9 73.1% Palestinian + 26.9% Cyprian @ 4.76
10 90.5% Samaritan + 9.5% Bedouin @ 4.8
11 93.9% Samaritan + 6.1% Egyptian @ 4.82
12 75.1% Lebanese_Christian + 24.9% Bedouin @ 4.84
13 98.6% Samaritan + 1.4% Ethiopian_Amhara @ 4.87
14 98.6% Samaritan + 1.4% Ethiopian_Tigray @ 4.88
15 90.9% Samaritan + 9.1% Lebanese_Muslim @ 4.89
16 98.7% Samaritan + 1.3% French_Basque @ 4.89
17 99% Samaritan + 1% Ethiopian_Oromo @ 4.9
18 99.1% Samaritan + 0.9% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 4.9
19 95.8% Samaritan + 4.2% Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.9
20 99.2% Samaritan + 0.8% Somali @ 4.91

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 4-Ancestors Oracle

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Samaritan @ 5.799
2 Palestinian @ 6.775
3 Lebanese_Christian @ 6.923
4 Lebanese_Druze @ 9.416
5 Jordanian @ 9.533
6 Lebanese_Muslim @ 10.686
7 Syrian @ 11.110
8 Cyprian @ 12.007
9 Bedouin @ 13.831
10 Sephardic_Jewish @ 17.891
165 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Lebanese_Christian +50% Palestinian @ 4.983
2 50% Palestinian +50% Samaritan @ 5.160
3 50% Samaritan +50% Samaritan @ 5.799
4 50% Lebanese_Christian +50% Samaritan @ 5.971
5 50% Lebanese_Druze +50% Palestinian @ 6.139
6 50% Lebanese_Druze +50% Samaritan @ 6.251
7 50% Jordanian +50% Lebanese_Christian @ 6.294
8 50% Jordanian +50% Samaritan @ 6.509
9 50% Cyprian +50% Palestinian @ 6.715
10 50% Palestinian +50% Palestinian @ 6.775
13695 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Lebanese_Christian +25% Sephardic_Jewish +25% Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.537
2 50% Cyprian +25% Lebanese_Christian +25% Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.753
3 50% Cyprian +25% Lebanese_Druze +25% Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.754
4 50% Lebanese_Christian +25% Cyprian +25% Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.829
5 50% Palestinian +25% Lebanese_Christian +25% Samaritan @ 4.944
6 50% Lebanese_Christian +25% Palestinian +25% Palestinian @ 4.983
7 50% Palestinian +25% Lebanese_Christian +25% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.983
8 50% Samaritan +25% Lebanese_Druze +25% Palestinian @ 5.045
9 50% Samaritan +25% Lebanese_Christian +25% Palestinian @ 5.061
10 50% Cyprian +25% Samaritan +25% Yemenite_Jewish @ 5.085
218544 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Christian + Sephardic_Jewish + Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.537
2 Cyprian + Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Muslim + Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.613
3 Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Druze + Sephardic_Jewish + Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.730
4 Cyprian + Cyprian + Lebanese_Christian + Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.753
5 Cyprian + Cyprian + Lebanese_Druze + Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.754
6 Cyprian + Lebanese_Druze + Lebanese_Muslim + Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.785
7 Cyprian + Lebanese_Muslim + Samaritan + Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.790
8 Cyprian + Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Christian + Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.829
9 Cyprian + Lebanese_Christian + Samaritan + Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.928
10 Lebanese_Christian + Palestinian + Palestinian + Samaritan @ 4.944
11 Cyprian + Lebanese_Druze + Samaritan + Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.951
12 Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Christian + Palestinian + Palestinian @ 4.983
13 Cyprian + Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Druze + Yemenite_Jewish @ 5.025
14 Lebanese_Druze + Palestinian + Samaritan + Samaritan @ 5.045
15 Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Muslim + Sephardic_Jewish + Yemenite_Jewish @ 5.052
16 Lebanese_Christian + Palestinian + Samaritan + Samaritan @ 5.061
17 Cyprian + Cyprian + Samaritan + Yemenite_Jewish @ 5.085
18 Cyprian + Cyprian + Palestinian + Yemenite_Jewish @ 5.102
19 Lebanese_Christian + Samaritan + Sephardic_Jewish + Yemenite_Jewish @ 5.103
20 Lebanese_Druze + Samaritan + Sephardic_Jewish + Yemenite_Jewish @ 5.111

506935 iterations.

Done.

Elapsed time 0.5780 seconds.

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle-x Population Fitting

Pct. Calc. Option 1

1 Samaritan 43.13%
2 Lebanese_Druze 20.94%
3 Yemenite_Jewish 16.84%
4 Lebanese_Muslim 15.83%
5 French_Basque 3.26%
6 Mozabite_Berber 0.00%
7 Sephardic_Jewish 0.00%
8 Kurdish 0.00%
9 Turkish 0.00%
10 Cyprian 0.00%

Pct. Calc. Option 2

1 Samaritan 78.79%
2 Lebanese_Druze 7.10%
3 Yemenite_Jewish 5.45%
4 Palestinian 5.08%
5 Lebanese_Muslim 1.62%
6 French_Basque 1.53%
7 Egyptian 0.11%
8 Jordanian 0.11%
9 Kurdish 0.11%
10 Turkish 0.11%

Maleficent
10-07-2013, 10:56 PM
Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 33.24
2 Atlantic 27.07
3 Eastern_Euro 10.67
4 West_Med 8.38
5 Baltic 7.91
6 West_Asian 6.58
7 East_Med 4.13
8 Northeast_African 0.54
9 Amerindian 0.49
10 Red_Sea 0.47
11 South_Asian 0.28
12 Oceanian 0.24

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southeast_English 5.13
2 German 5.13
3 Southwest_English 5.49
4 Danish 5.76
5 Dutch 5.98
6 Irish 6.7
7 West_Scottish 6.72
8 Orcadian 7.79
9 French 9.34
10 Norwegian 9.4
11 Swedish 10.66
12 North_Swedish 12.22
13 Austrian 14.95
14 Hungarian 15.98
15 Southwest_Finnish 16.15
16 Spanish_Cataluna 17.06
17 Spanish_Galicia 17.43
18 Serbian 18.06
19 Portuguese 18.17
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 18.48

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 90.6% Southeast_English + 9.4% Lezgin @ 2.38
2 90.8% Southeast_English + 9.2% Kumyk @ 2.65
3 90.9% Danish + 9.1% Armenian @ 2.74
4 91.3% Southeast_English + 8.7% Chechen @ 2.76
5 91.8% Southeast_English + 8.2% Adygei @ 2.81
6 91.7% Southeast_English + 8.3% Balkar @ 2.87
7 92.6% Southeast_English + 7.4% Georgian @ 2.87
8 92% Southeast_English + 8% Kurdish @ 2.89
9 93.1% Southeast_English + 6.9% Abhkasian @ 2.91
10 89.6% Danish + 10.4% Turkish @ 2.92
11 92.1% Southeast_English + 7.9% Iranian @ 2.94
12 91.5% Danish + 8.5% Georgian @ 2.96
13 92.3% Southeast_English + 7.7% Armenian @ 2.97
14 92.1% Danish + 7.9% Abhkasian @ 3.03
15 91.2% Southeast_English + 8.8% Turkish @ 3.04
16 92.3% Southeast_English + 7.7% North_Ossetian @ 3.07
17 89.4% West_Scottish + 10.6% Armenian @ 3.08
18 91.3% Danish + 8.7% Assyrian @ 3.09
19 90% Danish + 10% Kumyk @ 3.11
20 91% Danish + 9% Kurdish @ 3.11

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 4-Ancestors Oracle

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Southeast_English @ 5.674
2 Southwest_English @ 6.120
3 German @ 6.149
4 Danish @ 6.411
5 Dutch @ 6.830
6 West_Scottish @ 7.452
7 Irish @ 7.492
8 Orcadian @ 8.769
9 Norwegian @ 10.780
10 French @ 11.112
165 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% German +50% Southeast_English @ 4.869
2 50% Danish +50% German @ 5.107
3 50% German +50% Southwest_English @ 5.170
4 50% German +50% West_Scottish @ 5.344
5 50% Danish +50% French @ 5.497
6 50% German +50% Irish @ 5.641
7 50% Dutch +50% Southeast_English @ 5.657
8 50% Southeast_English +50% Southeast_English @ 5.674
9 50% French +50% Orcadian @ 5.676
10 50% French +50% West_Scottish @ 5.679
13695 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Danish +25% French +25% German @ 4.622
2 50% West_Scottish +25% Serbian +25% West_Scottish @ 4.714
3 50% West_Scottish +25% Serbian +25% Southeast_English @ 4.722
4 50% West_Scottish +25% Orcadian +25% Serbian @ 4.739
5 50% Danish +25% Danish +25% French @ 4.758
6 50% West_Scottish +25% Serbian +25% Southwest_English @ 4.788
7 50% Danish +25% Dutch +25% French @ 4.796
8 50% West_Scottish +25% Danish +25% Serbian @ 4.796
9 50% Danish +25% French +25% Southeast_English @ 4.800
10 50% Southeast_English +25% Orcadian +25% Serbian @ 4.817
367266 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Danish + Danish + French + German @ 4.622
2 Orcadian + Serbian + Southeast_English + West_Scottish @ 4.710
3 Danish + French + German + West_Scottish @ 4.713
4 Serbian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 4.714
5 Serbian + Southeast_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 4.722
6 Orcadian + Serbian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 4.739
7 Danish + French + German + Orcadian @ 4.744
8 Danish + Danish + Danish + French @ 4.758
9 Danish + French + German + Southeast_English @ 4.787
10 Serbian + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 4.788
11 Danish + Danish + Dutch + French @ 4.796
12 Danish + Serbian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 4.796
13 Danish + Danish + French + Southeast_English @ 4.800
14 Orcadian + Serbian + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 4.810
15 Orcadian + Serbian + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 4.817
16 Danish + Serbian + Southeast_English + West_Scottish @ 4.835
17 Danish + Dutch + French + Southeast_English @ 4.841
18 French + German + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 4.851
19 French + German + Orcadian + Southeast_English @ 4.858
20 Danish + Orcadian + Serbian + West_Scottish @ 4.860

1141931 iterations.

Done.

Elapsed time 2.7704 seconds.

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle-x Population Fitting

Pct. Calc. Option 1

1 Southeast_English 87.88%
2 Lezgin 7.75%
3 Chuvash 2.61%
4 Spanish_Extremadura 0.65%
5 Sephardic_Jewish 0.58%
6 Algerian 0.49%
7 Portuguese 0.03%
8 Moroccan 0.01%
9 Ashkenazi 0.00%
10 Iranian 0.00%

Pct. Calc. Option 2

1 Southwest_English 47.18%
2 Southeast_English 30.45%
3 Iranian 5.35%
4 Orcadian 5.02%
5 Chuvash 4.25%
6 North_Swedish 3.09%
7 Lezgin 2.78%
8 French 1.68%
9 Chechen 0.21%
10 Spanish_Cantabria 0.00%

Scarlet Ibis
10-08-2013, 12:14 AM
I re-checked my own, and I have a small amount of Amerindian on this calculator, but it's too small to be significant. Although, like I said, I have traced possible distant Amerindian ancestry in my family tree.


North_Sea 14.77%
Atlantic 16.86%
Baltic 6.26%
Eastern_Euro 5.78%
West_Med 5.26%
West_Asian -
East_Med -
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian 34.23%
Siberian 16.29%
Amerindian 0.57%
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -


Using 1 population approximation:
1 Uygur @ 28.217
2 Hazara @ 34.091
3 Uzbeki @ 34.551
4 Mongolian @ 37.733
5 Tu @ 38.777
6 Xibo @ 38.848
7 Altaian @ 40.068
8 Hezhen @ 40.195
9 Hakas @ 40.592
10 Tibeto-Burman_Burmese @ 40.799
165 iterations.



Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Japanese +50% Southeast_English @ 5.461
2 50% Japanese +50% Southwest_English @ 5.523
3 50% Irish +50% Japanese @ 5.619
4 50% Danish +50% Japanese @ 5.777
5 50% Japanese +50% West_Scottish @ 5.865
6 50% German +50% Japanese @ 6.068
7 50% Dutch +50% Japanese @ 6.517
8 50% Southeast_English +50% Tu @ 6.519
9 50% Southwest_English +50% Tu @ 6.582
10 50% Naxi +50% Southeast_English @ 6.627
13695 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Japanese +25% French_Basque +25% North_Swedish @ 3.918
2 50% Japanese +25% Finnish +25% French_Basque @ 4.410
3 50% Japanese +25% French_Basque +25% Southwest_Finnish @ 4.477
4 50% Japanese +25% French_Basque +25% Swedish @ 4.619
5 50% Japanese +25% French_Basque +25% Norwegian @ 4.852
6 50% Japanese +25% North_Swedish +25% Southwest_French @ 4.904
7 50% Tu +25% French_Basque +25% North_Swedish @ 5.019
8 50% Japanese +25% Norwegian +25% Southwest_French @ 5.150
9 50% Japanese +25% Southwest_French +25% West_Scottish @ 5.174
10 50% Japanese +25% Southwest_French +25% Swedish @ 5.176
561879 iterations.

Atlantic Islander
10-08-2013, 12:32 AM
I am PT2, so i'm not sure. Either way, normal resuts for me would be Portugal #1, then Galicia or Extremadura, and then the rest of spanish regions with Catalunya and Basque Country coming in last.

I get Portuguese second, so it's not too bad imo.

Maleficent
10-08-2013, 01:17 AM
This seems to be the most accurate one yet! :thumb001:

I'm scoring less East_Med than before(boo). :( North-Central_Euro seems to have been replaced with North_Sea, or are they the same?! I'm scoring higher North_Sea than North-Central_Euro, I know North_Sea on Eurogenes K12 peaks in Southern Norway, and North-Central_Euro on EUtest/Jtest peaks in Norwegians, so very Germanic. I'm also scoring higher Atlantic than before. I know that one peaks in French Basque on EUtest/Jtest, but it seems quite Celtic overall based on the other populations it peaks in. West_Med seems about the same for both me and my parents. West_Asian is about the same for me and my mom, but my dad is getting much higher than before. Eastern_Euro is Uralic and Baltic is Slavic, as far as I know. Middle_Eastern has been replaced with Red_Sea, my dad and I are getting much lower of that than on EUtest/Jtest, which is good cause I can't stand that one, East_Med is far superior. I've heard before that Red_Sea is supposedly a hybrid of Southwest_Asian and East_African. I know that the Northeast_African component on Eurogenes K13 peaks in Ethiopia Oromo, which is a slightly Berber shifted Horner population. I'm scoring Sub_Saharan and my maw is not, that's strange, she gets it on every other calculator and I'm getting it from her, not my dad; the East African is from my dad. Plus, she has 0.4% SSA on 23andme. There must have been a slave or an octoroon passing for for white somewhere in her family tree. The Amerindian is definitely real, my maw and I get it on almost every other calculator(although unlike most people on these forums, there was never any legends of that in our family). I'm scoring way more South_Asian than my parents?! And last but not least, I have no idea where Oceanian is coming from; must definitely be noise.

On the Oracles I seem to be closest with: Ashkenazi, Greek, Italian, and Sephardic; as on most calculators. Mixed Mode and 2 populations seems pretty accurate for me, although it's gets a little hazy with the 3 populations and 4 populations with all the Spanish. But that could just be showing my West Euro.

Which one of you suckers wants to try and beat my dad's East_Med score?! :P His Red_Sea score is very similar to his South_Bedouin score on McDonald and his Arabian score on Eurogenes K36, which could be showing his 'real Arab blood'; unlike some people claiming it is the 25 or 30 percent Southwest_Asian on other calculators. :roll eyes He is slightly closer to Samaritans than Palestinians, but still closest with Samaritans as all the tests are showing. He's closer to Lebanese_Christian than to Lebanese_Druze and Lebanese_Muslim, showing his Christian background; also showing my theory that Palestinian Christians are quite genetically close to Lebanese Christians. There's also lots of Cypriot in his Oracle results which corresponds with the fact that he scored lots of Cypriot on McDonald. He's getting way more Atlantic than before and he's still getting French_Basque in the Oracle-X, so that could be Crusader admixture.

My mom is scoring way higher North_Sea and Atlantic than before! :) She's closest to English, German, Danish, Dutch, Irish, Scottish, and Orcadian in that order. So slightly more Germanic than Celtic, which is a little disappointing because I thought she would be a little more Celtic than Germanic. :(

Overall I'm very happy with these results. :cool:

Atlantic Islander
10-08-2013, 01:23 AM
This seems to be the most accurate one yet! :thumb001:

Yeah, I agree.

7eleven
10-08-2013, 01:40 AM
Mine:

East_Med - 29.10%
Atlantic - 14.92%
West_Med - 12.85%
West_Asian - 11.82%
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Red_Sea - 9.21%
North_Sea - 8.69%
Baltic - 7.40%
Eastern_Euro - 3.32%
Northeast_African - 1.39%
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Siberian - 0.77%
Sub-Saharan - 0.45%
Oceanian - 0.08%
--------------------------------
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Amerindian -
--------------------------------


Can you post your oracle results?

Mark
10-08-2013, 01:50 AM
Can you post your oracle results?

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ashkenazi 5.34
2 Sephardic_Jewish 7.73
3 Greek 10.13
4 Tuscan 12.43
5 Cyprian 15.29
6 Bulgarian 16.3
7 Lebanese_Muslim 17.13
8 Syrian 17.41
9 Romanian 18.2
10 North_Italian 18.63
11 Turkish 19.14
12 Jordanian 19.36
13 Palestinian 20.14
14 Samaritan 20.18
15 Bedouin 20.67
16 Serbian 21.05
17 Lebanese_Christian 21.9
18 Lebanese_Druze 22.62
19 Algerian 23.06
20 Egyptian 23.33

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.8% Sephardic_Jewish + 15.2% Estonian @ 2.03
2 85.1% Sephardic_Jewish + 14.9% Lithuanian @ 2.25
3 84% Sephardic_Jewish + 16% Belorussian @ 2.29
4 82.5% Sephardic_Jewish + 17.5% Polish @ 2.45
5 82.3% Sephardic_Jewish + 17.7% Ukrainian_West @ 2.5
6 84.2% Sephardic_Jewish + 15.8% Finnish @ 2.61
7 83.5% Sephardic_Jewish + 16.5% Ukrainian_Northeast @ 2.63
8 82.9% Sephardic_Jewish + 17.1% Ukrainian @ 2.66
9 84% Sephardic_Jewish + 16% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.72
10 83.6% Sephardic_Jewish + 16.4% Russian @ 2.75
11 79.6% Sephardic_Jewish + 20.4% Hungarian @ 2.76
12 84.6% Sephardic_Jewish + 15.4% East_Finnish @ 2.95
13 79.2% Sephardic_Jewish + 20.8% Austrian @ 2.95
14 84.7% Sephardic_Jewish + 15.3% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.13
15 74.7% Sephardic_Jewish + 25.3% Serbian @ 3.16
16 71.8% Sephardic_Jewish + 28.2% Romanian @ 3.17
17 85.3% Sephardic_Jewish + 14.7% Erzya @ 3.39
18 85% Sephardic_Jewish + 15% North_Swedish @ 3.42
19 69.8% Sephardic_Jewish + 30.2% Bulgarian @ 3.48
20 85.2% Sephardic_Jewish + 14.8% Swedish @ 3.67


Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Ashkenazi @ 6.425
2 Sephardic_Jewish @ 8.767
3 Greek @ 11.388
4 Tuscan @ 14.303
5 Cyprian @ 17.743
6 Bulgarian @ 18.965
7 Lebanese_Muslim @ 19.927
8 Syrian @ 20.119
9 Romanian @ 21.311
10 North_Italian @ 21.601
165 iterations.



Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% North_Italian +50% Palestinian @ 4.815
2 50% Jordanian +50% North_Italian @ 5.165
3 50% Ashkenazi +50% Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.308
4 50% Greek +50% Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.485
5 50% North_Italian +50% Syrian @ 5.850
6 50% Lebanese_Muslim +50% North_Italian @ 5.913
7 50% Lebanese_Christian +50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 5.947
8 50% North_Italian +50% Samaritan @ 6.160
9 50% Lebanese_Druze +50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 6.166
10 50% Samaritan +50% Serbian @ 6.224
13695 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Sephardic_Jewish +25% Austrian +25% Palestinian @ 2.717
2 50% Sephardic_Jewish +25% Austrian +25% Samaritan @ 2.775
3 50% Palestinian +25% Bulgarian +25% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.789
4 50% Palestinian +25% Bulgarian +25% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.893
5 50% Palestinian +25% Bulgarian +25% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.000
6 50% Palestinian +25% Bulgarian +25% Southwest_French @ 3.019
7 50% Palestinian +25% Bulgarian +25% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.035
8 50% Palestinian +25% Romanian +25% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.039
9 50% Palestinian +25% Romanian +25% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.096
10 50% Sephardic_Jewish +25% Austrian +25% Jordanian @ 3.100
502666 iterations.



Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Bedouin + Bulgarian + Lebanese_Druze + Spanish_Aragon @ 2.480
2 Bedouin + Bulgarian + Lebanese_Druze + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.542
3 Bulgarian + Lebanese_Christian + Palestinian + Spanish_Aragon @ 2.544
4 Lebanese_Christian + Palestinian + Romanian + Spanish_Aragon @ 2.570
5 Lebanese_Christian + Palestinian + Romanian + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.593
6 Bulgarian + Lebanese_Christian + Palestinian + Southwest_French @ 2.614
7 Palestinian + Romanian + Samaritan + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.626
8 Bulgarian + Palestinian + Samaritan + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.666
9 Bulgarian + Lebanese_Christian + Palestinian + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.684
10 Bulgarian + Lebanese_Druze + Palestinian + Southwest_French @ 2.694
11 Assyrian + Bulgarian + Southwest_French + Yemenite_Jewish @ 2.709
12 Bulgarian + Lebanese_Druze + Palestinian + Spanish_Aragon @ 2.716
13 Austrian + Palestinian + Sephardic_Jewish + Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.717
14 Bedouin + Bulgarian + Lebanese_Druze + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.717
15 Assyrian + Bulgarian + French_Basque + Yemenite_Jewish @ 2.746
16 Bulgarian + Lebanese_Christian + Palestinian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.753
17 Lebanese_Christian + Palestinian + Romanian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.758
18 Bulgarian + Lebanese_Christian + Palestinian + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.763
19 Austrian + Samaritan + Sephardic_Jewish + Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.775
20 Bulgarian + Palestinian + Samaritan + Spanish_Aragon @ 2.776

Pct. Calc. Option 1

1 Sephardic_Jewish 67.55%
2 Belorussian 10.20%
3 Irish 6.29%
4 Bulgarian 5.50%
5 Saudi 5.23%
6 Lebanese_Druze 4.94%
7 Evenki 0.26%
8 Greek 0.03%
9 Ashkenazi 0.00%
10 Romanian 0.00%

Transhumanist
10-08-2013, 03:42 AM
My mother is an eighth (1/8) Armenian, or ~12.5%. Her results are below:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 38.09
2 West_Asian 32.54
3 Red_Sea 8.83
4 West_Med 7.36
5 South_Asian 4.06
6 Atlantic 2.65
7 Eastern_Euro 2.42
8 Baltic 2.24
9 North_Sea 0.91
10 Amerindian 0.59
11 Oceanian 0.3

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Assyrian 2.89
2 Armenian 6.75
3 Kurdish 9.15
4 Lebanese_Muslim 10.35
5 Iranian 10.78
6 Turkish 10.82
7 Syrian 12.43
8 Lebanese_Christian 14.58
9 Cyprian 14.6
10 Lebanese_Druze 15.72
11 Samaritan 16.8
12 Jordanian 17.73
13 Palestinian 18.92
14 Sephardic_Jewish 21.5
15 Bedouin 22.02
16 Kumyk 23.48
17 Ashkenazi 23.53
18 Georgian 24.97
19 Adygei 27.11
20 Abhkasian 28.06

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 93.8% Assyrian + 6.2% Abhkasian @ 2.23
2 93.2% Assyrian + 6.8% Georgian @ 2.26
3 93.8% Assyrian + 6.2% Adygei @ 2.28
4 94.6% Assyrian + 5.4% North_Ossetian @ 2.31
5 94.5% Assyrian + 5.5% Balkar @ 2.36
6 86.5% Assyrian + 13.5% Iranian @ 2.38
7 84.3% Assyrian + 15.7% Kurdish @ 2.38
8 95% Assyrian + 5% Chechen @ 2.38
9 94% Assyrian + 6% Kumyk @ 2.47
10 95.2% Assyrian + 4.8% Lezgin @ 2.52
11 96.3% Assyrian + 3.7% Balochi @ 2.58
12 96.3% Assyrian + 3.7% Brahui @ 2.59
13 83.4% Assyrian + 16.6% Armenian @ 2.61
14 96.2% Assyrian + 3.8% Makrani @ 2.63
15 97.6% Assyrian + 2.4% Burusho @ 2.64
16 97.6% Assyrian + 2.4% Pathan @ 2.67
17 96.9% Assyrian + 3.1% Tadjik @ 2.69
18 97.9% Assyrian + 2.1% Sindhi @ 2.7
19 91.3% Assyrian + 8.7% Turkish @ 2.71
20 98.1% Assyrian + 1.9% Punjabi_Jat @ 2.72

Oneeye
10-08-2013, 04:02 AM
Oneeye:

Population
North_Sea 37.79%
Atlantic 23.61%
Baltic 8.38%
Eastern_Euro 10.50%
West_Med 8.90%
West_Asian 5.23%
East_Med 3.17%
Red_Sea 0.42%
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 1.43%
Oceanian 0.57%
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

1 Dutch @ 5.132
2 Orcadian @ 5.893
3 Norwegian @ 7.055
4 Danish @ 7.154
5 Southwest_English @ 7.416
6 Southeast_English @ 7.503
7 German @ 8.125
8 West_Scottish @ 8.186
9 Irish @ 8.727
10 Swedish @ 9.008


1 French + Norwegian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 4.368
2 French + Norwegian + Norwegian + Orcadian @ 4.430
3 Dutch + French + Norwegian + Orcadian @ 4.610
4 French + Orcadian + Orcadian + Swedish @ 4.611
5 French + Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 4.681
6 French + North_Swedish + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 4.730
7 Dutch + French + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 4.740
8 French + Norwegian + Orcadian + Swedish @ 4.797
9 Dutch + French + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 4.839
10 French + Norwegian + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 4.853


Oneeye's mother:


Population
North_Sea 36.16%
Atlantic 23.26%
Baltic 12.21%
Eastern_Euro 11.88%
West_Med 7.55%
West_Asian 5.47%
East_Med 1.41%
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 1.18%
Oceanian 0.14%
Northeast_African 0.73%
Sub-Saharan -

1 Dutch @ 3.800
2 Norwegian @ 5.069
3 Swedish @ 6.029
4 German @ 6.204
5 Orcadian @ 6.942
6 Danish @ 7.138
7 North_Swedish @ 8.177
8 Southeast_English @ 8.330
9 West_Scottish @ 8.452
10 Southwest_English @ 8.530


1 German + German + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 3.034
2 Dutch + German + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 3.129
3 Dutch + Dutch + German + North_Swedish @ 3.139
4 Dutch + German + North_Swedish + Norwegian @ 3.178
5 Dutch + German + Norwegian + Swedish @ 3.234
6 Dutch + German + North_Swedish + Orcadian @ 3.239
7 German + German + Norwegian + Swedish @ 3.241
8 Hungarian + Norwegian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 3.252
9 Dutch + Dutch + Dutch + North_Swedish @ 3.270
10 German + German + North_Swedish + Norwegian @ 3.277

Patches
10-08-2013, 05:02 AM
My Results:
1 North_Sea 37.23
2 Atlantic 27.17
3 Baltic 9.27
4 West_Med 9.19
5 Eastern_Euro 8.8
6 East_Med 2.86
7 West_Asian 2.59
8 South_Asian 1.46
9 Sub-Saharan 1.16
10 Amerindian 0.29

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southeast_English 3.35
2 Southwest_English 3.66
3 Danish 3.69
4 Dutch 3.82
5 Orcadian 4.05
6 West_Scottish 4.35
7 Irish 4.66
8 German 6.41
9 Norwegian 6.67
10 Swedish 8.35
11 French 10.98
12 North_Swedish 11.27
13 Southwest_Finnish 16.62
14 Austrian 17.78
15 Hungarian 17.93
16 Spanish_Galicia 18.59
17 Spanish_Cataluna 18.61
18 Portuguese 19.69
19 Finnish 19.72
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 19.96

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.5% Orcadian + 16.5% Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.77
2 86.2% Orcadian + 13.8% Spanish_Valencia @ 1.81
3 87.2% Orcadian + 12.8% Spanish_Andalucia @ 1.84
4 85.3% Orcadian + 14.7% Spanish_Murcia @ 1.86
5 85.4% Orcadian + 14.6% Spanish_Extremadura @ 1.89
6 84.5% Orcadian + 15.5% Portuguese @ 1.89
7 84.8% Orcadian + 15.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 1.94
8 86.5% Orcadian + 13.5% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 1.94
9 85.7% Orcadian + 14.3% Spanish_Cantabria @ 1.95
10 84% Orcadian + 16% Spanish_Galicia @ 1.99
11 86.9% Orcadian + 13.1% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.02
12 75.5% Orcadian + 24.5% French @ 2.03
13 87.5% Orcadian + 12.5% North_Italian @ 2.07
14 93.2% Orcadian + 6.8% Sardinian @ 2.08
15 86.4% Orcadian + 13.6% Southwest_French @ 2.1
16 53.9% Southwest_English + 46.1% Orcadian @ 2.25
17 89.8% Orcadian + 10.2% Tuscan @ 2.39
18 59.2% Southeast_English + 40.8% Orcadian @ 2.55
19 70.2% Southwest_English + 29.8% Norwegian @ 2.56
20 93.7% Orcadian + 6.3% Mozabite_Berber @ 2.56

Patches
10-08-2013, 05:35 AM
A few more:
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Southeast_English @ 3.741
2 Southwest_English @ 4.061
3 Danish @ 4.067
4 Dutch @ 4.296
5 Orcadian @ 4.495
6 West_Scottish @ 4.853
7 Irish @ 5.254
8 German @ 7.442
9 Norwegian @ 7.606
10 Swedish @ 9.529
165 iterations.



Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Orcadian +50% Southwest_English @ 2.340
2 50% Orcadian +50% Southeast_English @ 2.734
3 50% Dutch +50% Southeast_English @ 2.969
4 50% Dutch +50% Southwest_English @ 3.066
5 50% Danish +50% Southwest_English @ 3.096
6 50% Norwegian +50% Southwest_English @ 3.426
7 50% Danish +50% Dutch @ 3.536
8 50% Danish +50% Southeast_English @ 3.568
9 50% Dutch +50% West_Scottish @ 3.584
10 50% Southwest_English +50% West_Scottish @ 3.586
13695 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Orcadian +25% French +25% Orcadian @ 2.066
2 50% Orcadian +25% Danish +25% French @ 2.168
3 50% Orcadian +25% French +25% West_Scottish @ 2.229
4 50% Orcadian +25% Southwest_English +25% Southwest_English @ 2.340
5 50% Southwest_English +25% Orcadian +25% Orcadian @ 2.340
6 50% Orcadian +25% French +25% Southeast_English @ 2.402
7 50% Orcadian +25% French +25% Irish @ 2.428
8 50% Orcadian +25% Southeast_English +25% Southwest_English @ 2.451
9 50% Southwest_English +25% Dutch +25% Orcadian @ 2.459
10 50% Southwest_English +25% Danish +25% Orcadian @ 2.493
319784 iterations.



Using 4 populations approximation:
1 French + Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 2.066
2 Danish + French + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 2.168
3 French + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 2.229
4 Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 2.340
5 French + Orcadian + Orcadian + Southeast_English @ 2.402
6 French + Irish + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 2.428
7 Dutch + Orcadian + Southeast_English + Southwest_English @ 2.436
8 Orcadian + Orcadian + Southeast_English + Southwest_English @ 2.451
9 Dutch + Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 2.459
10 Danish + Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 2.493
11 French + Norwegian + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 2.535
12 Dutch + French + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 2.548
13 Dutch + Orcadian + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 2.599
14 Norwegian + Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 2.630
15 Norwegian + Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 2.632
16 French + Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 2.633
17 Danish + Dutch + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 2.646
18 Orcadian + Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 2.649
19 Norwegian + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Southwest_English @ 2.652
20 Danish + Orcadian + Southeast_English + Southwest_English @ 2.653

Pct. Calc. Option 2

1 Southeast_English 52.09%
2 Orcadian 26.33%
3 North_Swedish 7.24%
4 Norwegian 6.85%
5 Sardinian 3.10%
6 Yoruban 1.10%
7 Dutch 1.10%
8 Kol 1.10%
9 Algerian 1.09%
10 Spanish_Galicia 0.00%

Pct. Calc. Option 1

1 Southeast_English 61.65%
2 Norwegian 31.83%
3 Spanish_Galicia 5.35%
4 Yoruban 0.72%
5 Kol 0.41%
6 French 0.02%
7 Portuguese 0.01%
8 Spanish_Murcia 0.01%
9 Spanish_Extremadura 0.00%
10 North_Swedish 0.00%

I'm starting to wonder about South Asian, seeing as it shows up on every test. Thought it might be higher though.

MfA_
10-08-2013, 04:42 PM
I'm starting to wonder about South Asian, seeing as it shows up on every test. Thought it might be higher though.

If you are not from the subcontinent, South Asian here is some Caucosoid Gedrosia/South Central Asia alleles found in India since the Neolithic.. If not it is Dravidian..

Black Wolf
10-08-2013, 09:33 PM
Sorry if this question has already been asked but does anyone know where each of the components peek? Especially interested in the West Eurasian ones.

MfA_
10-08-2013, 09:56 PM
Sorry if this question has already been asked but does anyone know where each of the components peek? Especially interested in the West Eurasian ones.


I'll update this entry when I get more time, perhaps with some gradient maps and PCAs of the ancestral components.

Fingers crossed he releases population averages, Fst distances too..

Black Wolf
10-08-2013, 10:03 PM
Fingers crossed he releases population averages, Fst distances too..

For sure! Soon hopefully too! :)

Black Wolf
10-09-2013, 12:31 AM
Posting my results again here just for the fun of it. I find it quite interesting that my genome in this calculator is dominated by the North_Sea component. This makes sense though since my mother who is of Irish/British Isles descent has a lot of this component and also my father has some which he inherited mostly from his Finnish mother no doubt. I probably also inherited a little bit of it from my paternal grandfather who is Italian but not as much as from my paternal Finnish grandmother who I already mentioned. Dare I say it? North Sea Pride World Wide! :D

Population
North_Sea 31.10%
Atlantic 20.43%
Baltic 10.15%
Eastern_Euro 12.53%
West_Med 7.55%
West_Asian 4.79%
East_Med 7.85%
Red_Sea 1.47%
South_Asian 1.06%
Southeast_Asian 0.21%
Siberian 1.01%
Amerindian 0.91%
Oceanian 0.96%
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Jackson
10-09-2013, 12:35 AM
Posting my results again here just for the fun of it. I find it quite interesting that my genome in this calculator is dominated by the North_Sea component. This makes sense though since my mother who is of Irish/British Isles descent has a lot of this component and also my father has some which he inherited mostly from his Finnish mother no doubt. I probably also inherited a little bit of it from my paternal grandfather who is Italian but not as much as from my paternal Finnish grandmother who I already mentioned. Dare I say it? North Sea Pride World Wide! :D

Population
North_Sea 31.10%
Atlantic 20.43%
Baltic 10.15%
Eastern_Euro 12.53%
West_Med 7.55%
West_Asian 4.79%
East_Med 7.85%
Red_Sea 1.47%
South_Asian 1.06%
Southeast_Asian 0.21%
Siberian 1.01%
Amerindian 0.91%
Oceanian 0.96%
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

A fine sea surrounded by fine people. :)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ae/NASA_NorthSea1_2.jpg/240px-NASA_NorthSea1_2.jpg

Black Wolf
10-09-2013, 12:38 AM
A fine sea surrounded by fine people. :)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ae/NASA_NorthSea1_2.jpg/240px-NASA_NorthSea1_2.jpg

Aye very true my friend. :).....I wonder where the groups that carried this component around Europe originated from? I would bet on somewhere in Central Europe.

Jackson
10-09-2013, 12:41 AM
Aye very true my friend. :).....I wonder where the groups that carried this component around Europe originated from? I would bet on somewhere in Central Europe.

Ultimately i guess so. Although one thing that is interesting is that it is also quite dominant in Finns too, which gives it something of a Baltic bias as well to some extent. It seems to correlate with y-haplogroup I1 to some extent in this regard also. So i would bet that the two have something of a history together in pre-historic times, in a similar way to R1b and Atlantic components. Of course whether these haplogroups came to dominate in areas where these autosomal components were prevalent, or whether they brought the majority of it with them is a pretty open question?

Black Wolf
10-09-2013, 12:47 AM
Ultimately i guess so. Although one thing that is interesting is that it is also quite dominant in Finns too, which gives it something of a Baltic bias as well to some extent. It seems to correlate with y-haplogroup I1 to some extent in this regard also. So i would bet that the two have something of a history together in pre-historic times, in a similar way to R1b and Atlantic components. Of course whether these haplogroups came to dominate in areas where these autosomal components were prevalent, or whether they brought the majority of it with them is a pretty open question?

Yes I was thinking about that also. This North_Sea component does seem to be quite strong in Finns as well who like you say like other Northern Europeans including Brits have pretty high frequencies of Y-DNA haplogroup I1. The correlation of course is as you noticed not perfect though. It is tempting to call the North_Sea component here Germanic based on it's distribution but I don't know if that would really make sense or if it would be to broad a generalization for it?

Jackson
10-09-2013, 12:57 AM
Yes I was thinking about that also. This North_Sea component does seem to be quite strong in Finns as well who like you say like other Northern Europeans including Brits have pretty high frequencies of Y-DNA haplogroup I1. The correlation of course is as you noticed not perfect though. It is tempting to call the North_Sea component here Germanic based on it's distribution but I don't know if that would really make sense or if it would be to broad a generalization for it?

I think in this calculator it is broader. It certainly seems to have spread with Germanics but to have been something else before-hand if i had to guess based on the evidence. Like I1 - It has a heavy distribution in some decidedly non-Germanic areas, but also in Germanic areas. Perhaps it is related to either the closeness of Balto-Slavic to Germanic, or to the non-IE words (for example) in Germanic?

Again it's certainly not a 100% correlation, it's disproportionately high in the British Isles where I1 doesn't regularly exceed 15-20%, and also Ireland where it doesn't seem to exceed 5-10%.

Black Wolf
10-09-2013, 01:11 AM
I think in this calculator it is broader. It certainly seems to have spread with Germanics but to have been something else before-hand if i had to guess based on the evidence. Like I1 - It has a heavy distribution in some decidedly non-Germanic areas, but also in Germanic areas. Perhaps it is related to either the closeness of Balto-Slavic to Germanic, or to the non-IE words (for example) in Germanic?

Again it's certainly not a 100% correlation, it's disproportionately high in the British Isles where I1 doesn't regularly exceed 15-20%, and also Ireland where it doesn't seem to exceed 5-10%.

Actually yes it is much broader than where Germanic peoples/speakers spread to in Europe. Keep in mind though that Finns who are non-IE speakers are descended genetically mostly from IE speaking peoples and also that a lot of Finnish genes came from the West (ie. Germanic/Scandinavian peoples carried these genes into Finland). The case of Britain and Ireland is also interesting. We know that Britain including Scotland has a lot of Germanic ancestry and I also think Ireland does on the whole as well. Or at least a lot of Irish genes came from a similar source to those of Germanic peoples. The North_Sea component here must be quite old and spread throughout Europe with numerous groups who spoke different IE languages. Like I said before I think it probably originated in similar groups spreading out of Central Europe at some point in the remote past.

StarDS9
10-09-2013, 01:48 AM
West_Asian 36.76%
East_Med 26.98%
South_Asian 9.19%
Atlantic 8.14%
Eastern_Euro 5.96%
Baltic 4.46%
Red_Sea 3.77%
West_Med 1.92%
Siberian 1.00%
Northeast_African 0.96%
Amerindian 0.63%
Southeast_Asian 0.25%



1 Kurdish 6.92
2 Iranian 8.22
3 Turkish 10.71
4 Armenian 13.18
5 Kumyk 13.88
6 Assyrian 16.02
7 Adygei 17.22
8 Georgian 18.27
9 Lezgin 18.39
10 Balkar 18.9
11 North_Ossetian 20.5
12 Chechen 20.6
13 Lebanese_Muslim 20.95
14 Abhkasian 21.2
15 Makrani 21.96
16 Syrian 22.5
17 Tadjik 23.27
18 Balochi 24.37
19 Cyprian 24.48
20 Brahui 24.65



Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
80.1% Kurdish + 19.9% North_Ossetian @ 4.85
77.2% Kurdish + 22.8% Adygei @ 4.91
79% Kurdish + 21% Balkar @ 4.94
80.6% Kurdish + 19.4% Chechen @ 4.98
74% Kurdish + 26% Kumyk @ 5.25
80.9% Kurdish + 19.1% Lezgin @ 5.54
73.1% Iranian + 26.9% Adygei @ 5.62
76.7% Iranian + 23.3% North_Ossetian @ 5.65
75.4% Iranian + 24.6% Balkar @ 5.75
86.9% Kurdish + 13.1% Nogay @ 5.78
85.7% Kurdish + 14.3% Tadjik @ 5.81
83.1% Kurdish + 16.9% Georgian @ 5.96
85.5% Kurdish + 14.5% Abhkasian @ 5.99
77.8% Iranian + 22.2% Chechen @ 6.01
69.2% Iranian + 30.8% Kumyk @ 6.05
92.7% Kurdish + 7.3% Burusho @ 6.26
95% Kurdish + 5% French_Basque @ 6.27
94% Kurdish + 6% Ukrainian_Northeast @ 6.27
94.5% Kurdish + 5.5% Belorussian @ 6.3
94.9% Kurdish + 5.1% Lithuanian @ 6.32



My Circassian Ancestry seems to show in this one.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Adygei + Kurdish + Kurdish + Kurdish @ 5.693
2 Adygei + Iranian + Kurdish + Kurdish @ 5.778
3 Kurdish + Kurdish + Kurdish + North_Ossetian @ 5.787
4 Balkar + Kurdish + Kurdish + Kurdish @ 5.837
5 Iranian + Kurdish + Kurdish + North_Ossetian @ 5.853
6 Balkar + Iranian + Kurdish + Kurdish @ 5.936
7 Adygei + Iranian + Kurdish + Turkish @ 5.988
8 Adygei + Kurdish + Kurdish + Turkish @ 6.013
9 Adygei + Iranian + Iranian + Kurdish @ 6.043
10 Chechen + Kurdish + Kurdish + Kurdish @ 6.054
11 Iranian + Iranian + Kurdish + North_Ossetian @ 6.098
12 Adygei + Iranian + Iranian + Turkish @ 6.141
13 Kumyk + Kurdish + Kurdish + Kurdish @ 6.169
14 Iranian + Kurdish + North_Ossetian + Turkish @ 6.187
15 Balkar + Iranian + Iranian + Kurdish @ 6.209
16 Chechen + Iranian + Kurdish + Kurdish @ 6.227
17 Kurdish + Kurdish + North_Ossetian + Turkish @ 6.228
18 Iranian + Iranian + North_Ossetian + Turkish @ 6.318
19 Iranian + Kumyk + Kurdish + Kurdish @ 6.340
20 Adygei + Iranian + Iranian + Iranian @ 6.466

Sea Warrior
10-09-2013, 03:02 AM
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 36.26
2 Atlantic 27.32
3 Baltic 13.03
4 West_Med 9.64
5 Eastern_Euro 5.43
6 West_Asian 3.34
7 Red_Sea 2.36
8 East_Med 1.74
9 Siberian 0.58
10 Sub-Saharan 0.16
11 Amerindian 0.14

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_English 4.64
2 Southeast_English 4.95
3 Dutch 4.98
4 Irish 5.05
5 West_Scottish 5.72
6 German 5.87
7 Danish 5.94
8 Orcadian 6.31
9 Norwegian 7.86
10 Swedish 8.44
11 French 10.69
12 North_Swedish 12
13 Southwest_Finnish 16.33
14 Hungarian 16.85
15 Austrian 16.89
16 Spanish_Galicia 18.11
17 Spanish_Cataluna 18.26
18 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 19.17
19 Finnish 19.36
20 Portuguese 19.38

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.7% Southwest_English + 26.3% Swedish @ 3.78
2 56.8% Southwest_English + 43.2% Dutch @ 4.12
3 91.9% Southwest_English + 8.1% Estonian @ 4.13
4 76.2% Southwest_English + 23.8% Norwegian @ 4.14
5 79.8% Orcadian + 20.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.19
6 86.2% Irish + 13.8% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.19
7 79% Swedish + 21% French_Basque @ 4.21
8 77.9% Irish + 22.1% French @ 4.21
9 94.3% Southwest_English + 5.7% Lithuanian @ 4.26
10 60% Irish + 40% German @ 4.28
11 60% Southwest_English + 40% Irish @ 4.29
12 92.8% Southwest_English + 7.2% Ukrainian_West @ 4.3
13 86.6% Southwest_English + 13.4% North_Swedish @ 4.3
14 69.8% Southwest_English + 30.2% German @ 4.31
15 88.3% Dutch + 11.7% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.33
16 94.7% Irish + 5.3% Sardinian @ 4.33
17 91.8% Southwest_English + 8.2% Finnish @ 4.33
18 73.3% Southwest_English + 26.7% Orcadian @ 4.33
19 75.7% Swedish + 24.3% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.34
20 51.3% Dutch + 48.7% Irish @ 4.34

StonyArabia
10-09-2013, 03:07 AM
Here are my results:

North_Sea -
Atlantic 4.69%
Baltic 3.68%
Eastern_Euro 0.90%
West_Med 5.36%
West_Asian 29.56%
East_Med 34.46%
Red_Sea 10.67%
South_Asian 4.09%
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 1.17%
Amerindian 0.70%
Oceanian 1.12%
Northeast_African 1.75%
Sub-Saharan 1.85%

1 75.3% Syrian + 24.7% Abhkasian @ 4.5
2 63.1% Palestinian + 36.9% Abhkasian @ 4.55
3 73.2% Syrian + 26.8% Georgian @ 4.7
4 60.3% Palestinian + 39.7% Georgian @ 4.75
5 50.6% Kurdish + 49.4% Syrian @ 4.79
6 53.7% Lebanese_Muslim + 46.3% Iranian @ 4.84
7 76.1% Syrian + 23.9% North_Ossetian @ 4.97
8 67.2% Kurdish + 32.8% Bedouin @ 5.06
9 78.2% Lebanese_Muslim + 21.8% Abhkasian @ 5.06
10 74.2% Syrian + 25.8% Adygei @ 5.07
11 63.8% Palestinian + 36.2% North_Ossetian @ 5.08
12 78.6% Lebanese_Muslim + 21.4% North_Ossetian @ 5.11
13 50.5% Syrian + 49.5% Iranian @ 5.15
14 52.7% Lebanese_Muslim + 47.3% Kurdish @ 5.18
15 76.2% Lebanese_Muslim + 23.8% Georgian @ 5.22
16 76.9% Lebanese_Muslim + 23.1% Adygei @ 5.24
17 66.2% Jordanian + 33.8% Abhkasian @ 5.25
18 61.3% Palestinian + 38.7% Adygei @ 5.25
19 63.5% Jordanian + 36.5% Georgian @ 5.38
20 62.5% Kurdish + 37.5% Jordanian @ 5.39

1 50% Kurdish +50% Syrian @ 5.328
2 50% Iranian +50% Lebanese_Muslim @ 5.421
3 50% Kurdish +50% Lebanese_Muslim @ 5.618
4 50% Iranian +50% Syrian @ 5.859
5 50% Armenian +50% Syrian @ 6.612
6 50% Assyrian +50% Turkish @ 6.651
7 50% Jordanian +50% Kurdish @ 6.923
8 50% Cyprian +50% Iranian @ 7.099
9 50% Georgian +50% Palestinian @ 7.204
10 50% North_Ossetian +50% Yemenite_Jewish @ 7.259
13695 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Palestinian +25% Abhkasian +25% Iranian @ 4.098
2 50% Palestinian +25% Abhkasian +25% Kurdish @ 4.249
3 50% Palestinian +25% Georgian +25% Iranian @ 4.300
4 50% Palestinian +25% Georgian +25% Kurdish @ 4.421
5 50% Palestinian +25% Abhkasian +25% Turkish @ 4.658
6 50% Palestinian +25% Kurdish +25% North_Ossetian @ 4.704
7 50% Palestinian +25% Iranian +25% North_Ossetian @ 4.730
8 50% Assyrian +25% North_Ossetian +25% Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.752
9 50% Lebanese_Muslim +25% Abhkasian +25% Bedouin @ 4.817
10 50% Syrian +25% Abhkasian +25% Lebanese_Muslim @ 4.893
148983 iterations.



Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Abhkasian + Iranian + Palestinian + Palestinian @ 4.098
2 Abhkasian + Kurdish + Palestinian + Palestinian @ 4.249
3 Abhkasian + Bedouin + Kurdish + Palestinian @ 4.261
4 Kurdish + Lebanese_Muslim + North_Ossetian + Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.278
5 Abhkasian + Cyprian + Iranian + Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.298
6 Georgian + Iranian + Palestinian + Palestinian @ 4.300
7 Bedouin + Georgian + Iranian + Lebanese_Christian @ 4.337
8 Abhkasian + Kurdish + Lebanese_Muslim + Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.361
9 Abhkasian + Bedouin + Iranian + Samaritan @ 4.365
10 Abhkasian + Iranian + Palestinian + Samaritan @ 4.397
11 Abhkasian + Iranian + Lebanese_Muslim + Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.399
12 Bedouin + Georgian + Iranian + Lebanese_Druze @ 4.412
13 Abhkasian + Bedouin + Kurdish + Samaritan @ 4.417
14 Georgian + Kurdish + Palestinian + Palestinian @ 4.421
15 Georgian + Iranian + Palestinian + Samaritan @ 4.424
16 Bedouin + Georgian + Iranian + Samaritan @ 4.424
17 Abhkasian + Iranian + Jordanian + Palestinian @ 4.426
18 Abhkasian + Bedouin + Iranian + Lebanese_Druze @ 4.427
19 Bedouin + Georgian + Kurdish + Lebanese_Christian @ 4.443
20 Abhkasian + Bedouin + Iranian + Lebanese_Christian @ 4.450

7eleven
10-09-2013, 03:17 AM
My mother's results:

1 East_Med 29.81
2 West_Med 15.57
3 West_Asian 12.16
4 North_Sea 11.78
5 Atlantic 10.27
6 Baltic 6.47
7 Red_Sea 5.78
8 Eastern_Euro 4.04
9 Northeast_African 1.23
10 Southeast_Asian 0.82
11 Sub-Saharan 0.74
12 South_Asian 0.73
13 Siberian 0.35
14 Oceanian 0.26

1 73.5% Cyprian + 26.5% Norwegian @ 3.62
2 73.4% Cyprian + 26.6% Swedish @ 3.69
3 72.3% Cyprian + 27.7% Dutch @ 3.77
4 92.7% Ashkenazi + 7.3% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.81
5 73.4% Cyprian + 26.6% North_Swedish @ 3.85
6 91% Ashkenazi + 9% Cyprian @ 3.95
7 94.4% Ashkenazi + 5.6% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.99
8 88.1% Ashkenazi + 11.9% Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.03
9 94.7% Ashkenazi + 5.3% Samaritan @ 4.04
10 73.7% Cyprian + 26.3% Orcadian @ 4.06
11 70.4% Cyprian + 29.6% German @ 4.08
12 96.7% Ashkenazi + 3.3% Palestinian @ 4.13
13 96.4% Ashkenazi + 3.6% Lebanese_Muslim @ 4.14
14 98% Ashkenazi + 2% Assyrian @ 4.16
15 98.7% Ashkenazi + 1.3% Sardinian @ 4.16
16 98.8% Ashkenazi + 1.2% Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.16
17 97.9% Ashkenazi + 2.1% Jordanian @ 4.16
18 96.9% Ashkenazi + 3.1% Tuscan @ 4.17
19 99.3% Ashkenazi + 0.7% Armenian @ 4.18
20 99.1% Ashkenazi + 0.9% Syrian @ 4.18

1 50% Ashkenazi +50% Ashkenazi @ 5.383
2 50% Lebanese_Druze +50% North_Italian @ 5.653
3 50% Lebanese_Christian +50% North_Italian @ 5.720
4 50% Samaritan +50% Serbian @ 5.750
5 50% Lebanese_Druze +50% Spanish_Galicia @ 5.843
6 50% Lebanese_Christian +50% Spanish_Galicia @ 6.097
7 50% North_Italian +50% Samaritan @ 6.105
8 50% Lebanese_Christian +50% Serbian @ 6.144
9 50% Romanian +50% Samaritan @ 6.168
10 50% Ashkenazi +50% Sephardic_Jewish @ 6.295
13695 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Lebanese_Christian +25% Hungarian +25% North_Italian @ 3.617
2 50% Lebanese_Christian +25% Romanian +25% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.658
3 50% Ashkenazi +25% Lebanese_Druze +25% North_Italian @ 3.661
4 50% Lebanese_Christian +25% Serbian +25% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.671
5 50% Lebanese_Christian +25% Portuguese +25% Serbian @ 3.770
6 50% Lebanese_Christian +25% Bulgarian +25% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.809
7 50% Lebanese_Christian +25% Portuguese +25% Romanian @ 3.847
8 50% Samaritan +25% Hungarian +25% Tuscan @ 3.970
9 50% Lebanese_Druze +25% North_Swedish +25% Sardinian @ 3.982
10 50% Samaritan +25% Hungarian +25% North_Italian @ 3.993
530707 iterations.



Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Lebanese_Druze + Romanian + Samaritan + Spanish_Galicia @ 3.524
2 Bulgarian + Lebanese_Druze + Samaritan + Spanish_Galicia @ 3.550
3 Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Druze + Romanian + Spanish_Galicia @ 3.608
4 Hungarian + Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Christian + North_Italian @ 3.617
5 Hungarian + Lebanese_Christian + North_Italian + Samaritan @ 3.637
6 Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Christian + Romanian + Spanish_Galicia @ 3.658
7 Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Lebanese_Druze + North_Italian @ 3.661
8 Bulgarian + Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Druze + Spanish_Galicia @ 3.669
9 Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Christian + Serbian + Spanish_Galicia @ 3.671
10 Lebanese_Druze + Portuguese + Romanian + Samaritan @ 3.754
11 Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Christian + Portuguese + Serbian @ 3.770
12 Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Druze + Serbian + Spanish_Galicia @ 3.785
13 Lebanese_Christian + Romanian + Samaritan + Spanish_Galicia @ 3.806
14 Bulgarian + Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Christian + Spanish_Galicia @ 3.809
15 Hungarian + Lebanese_Druze + North_Italian + Samaritan @ 3.835
16 Lebanese_Druze + North_Italian + Samaritan + Serbian @ 3.836
17 Bulgarian + Cyprian + Lebanese_Druze + Spanish_Galicia @ 3.842
18 Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Christian + Portuguese + Romanian @ 3.847
19 Lebanese_Druze + Samaritan + Serbian + Spanish_Galicia @ 3.865
20 Lebanese_Christian + North_Italian + Samaritan + Serbian @ 3.873

Vesuvian Sky
10-09-2013, 03:27 AM
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 23.18
2 North_Sea 18.63
3 Atlantic 16.48
4 West_Med 16.21
5 West_Asian 11.38
6 Baltic 7.26
7 Red_Sea 2.71
8 Eastern_Euro 2.26
9 Oceanian 0.85
10 Amerindian 0.52
11 Northeast_Afr. 0.51


# Population (source) Distance
1 Tuscan 6.71
2 Greek 10.23
3 North_Italian 10.88
4 Ashkenazi 11.32
5 Bulgarian 12.82
6 Romanian 13.43
7 Serbian 15.42
8 Sephardic_Jewish 16.85
9 Portuguese 16.99
10 Spanish_Extremadura 17.39
11 Spanish_Galicia 17.45
12 Spanish_Murcia 17.61
13 Spanish_Cataluna 18.23
14 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 18.58
15 Spanish_Andalucia 18.84
16 French 19.33
17 Spanish_Valencia 19.61
18 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 20.61
19 Austrian 21.56
20 Hungarian 21.77

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.5% Cyprian + 46.5% Southwest_English @ 4.18
2 55.2% French + 44.8% Cyprian @ 4.2
3 54.1% Cyprian + 45.9% Southeast_English @ 4.75
4 62% French + 38% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.94
5 62.1% French + 37.9% Lebanese_Druze @ 5.09
6 54.5% Cyprian + 45.5% Dutch @ 5.21
7 55.8% Cyprian + 44.2% Irish @ 5.23
8 56.6% Cyprian + 43.4% Orcadian @ 5.24
9 51.2% Cyprian + 48.8% German @ 5.33
10 56.3% Cyprian + 43.7% West_Scottish @ 5.37
11 61.1% French + 38.9% Samaritan @ 5.47
12 55.6% Cyprian + 44.4% Danish @ 5.57
13 64.9% Spanish_Galicia + 35.1% Lebanese_Druze @ 5.63
14 64.5% Spanish_Galicia + 35.5% Assyrian @ 5.66
15 58% French + 42% Lebanese_Muslim @ 5.69
16 65.2% Portuguese + 34.8% Assyrian @ 5.79
17 76.8% North_Italian + 23.2% Lebanese_Druze @ 5.81
18 65.7% Sephardic_Jewish + 34.3% Norwegian @ 5.83
19 63.5% Sephardic_Jewish + 36.5% Dutch @ 5.85
20 63.4% Spanish_Cataluna + 36.6% Assyrian @ 5.87



X-CHROMOSOME ORACLE
# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 18.63
2 Atlantic 16.48
3 Baltic 7.26
4 Eastern_Euro 2.26
5 West_Med 16.21
6 West_Asian 11.38
7 East_Med 23.18
8 Red_Sea 2.71
9 South_Asian 0.00
10 Southeast_Asian 0.00
11 Siberian 0.00
12 Amerindian 0.52
13 Oceanian 0.85
14 Northeast_African 0.51
15 Sub-Saharan 0.00

Pct. Calc. Option 2

1 Tuscan 50.48%
2 North_Italian 9.52%
3 Lezgin 8.30%
4 Lebanese_Druze 8.30%
5 Swedish 8.05%
6 Norwegian 6.09%
7 Lebanese_Christian 4.22%
8 Algerian 2.77%
9 Ashkenazi 1.18%
10 Sephardic_Jewish 1.08%

Black Wolf
10-09-2013, 02:18 PM
Call me crazy but I think the area of most likely origin for the North_Sea component is in the area of Frisia, Northern Germany or Denmark. Groups from these areas could have easily spread it in all directions starting in pre-historic times.

MfA_
10-09-2013, 02:21 PM
Call me crazy but I think the area of most likely origin for the North_Sea component is in the area of Frisia, Northern Germany or Denmark. Groups from these areas could have easily spread it in all directions starting in pre-historic times.

Doggerland maybe :p

Black Wolf
10-09-2013, 02:30 PM
Doggerland maybe :p

lol a fun thought but Doggerland was probably already submerged when the North_Sea component started to really spread around.

orangepulp
10-09-2013, 03:21 PM
My grandmother's results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 40.82
2 East_Med 29.95
3 West_Med 10.29
4 Atlantic 8.15
5 Red_Sea 4.31
6 Eastern_Euro 4.11
7 Siberian 2.36


--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Armenian @ 10.733
2 Turkish @ 13.575
3 Kurdish @ 14.465
4 Assyrian @ 16.855
5 Iranian @ 17.498
6 Georgian @ 19.309
7 Kumyk @ 20.156
8 Adygei @ 22.222
9 Abhkasian @ 22.687
10 Lebanese_Muslim @ 22.906
165 iterations.



Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Abhkasian +50% Cyprian @ 6.438
2 50% Cyprian +50% Georgian @ 7.640
3 50% Abhkasian +50% Lebanese_Muslim @ 7.836
4 50% Georgian +50% Lebanese_Muslim @ 8.454
5 50% Abhkasian +50% Lebanese_Christian @ 8.757
6 50% Abhkasian +50% Sephardic_Jewish @ 8.894
7 50% Abhkasian +50% Samaritan @ 9.023
8 50% Assyrian +50% Georgian @ 9.121
9 50% Abhkasian +50% Syrian @ 9.303
10 50% Georgian +50% Lebanese_Christian @ 9.677
13695 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Abhkasian +25% Cyprian +25% Cyprian @ 6.438
2 50% Cyprian +25% Abhkasian +25% Abhkasian @ 6.438
3 50% Abhkasian +25% Cyprian +25% Lebanese_Muslim @ 6.899
4 50% Cyprian +25% Abhkasian +25% Georgian @ 6.964
5 50% Abhkasian +25% Assyrian +25% Sephardic_Jewish @ 7.111
6 50% Abhkasian +25% Cyprian +25% Sephardic_Jewish @ 7.184
7 50% Abhkasian +25% Cyprian +25% Lebanese_Christian @ 7.225
8 50% Abhkasian +25% Assyrian +25% Cyprian @ 7.276
9 50% Abhkasian +25% Lebanese_Christian +25% Sephardic_Jewish @ 7.288
10 50% Abhkasian +25% Cyprian +25% Turkish @ 7.334
274848 iterations.



Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Abhkasian + Abhkasian + Cyprian + Cyprian @ 6.438
2 Abhkasian + Abhkasian + Cyprian + Lebanese_Muslim @ 6.899
3 Abhkasian + Cyprian + Cyprian + Georgian @ 6.964
4 Abhkasian + Abhkasian + Assyrian + Sephardic_Jewish @ 7.111
5 Abhkasian + Abhkasian + Cyprian + Sephardic_Jewish @ 7.184
6 Abhkasian + Abhkasian + Cyprian + Lebanese_Christian @ 7.225
7 Abhkasian + Cyprian + Georgian + Lebanese_Muslim @ 7.276
8 Abhkasian + Abhkasian + Assyrian + Cyprian @ 7.276
9 Abhkasian + Abhkasian + Lebanese_Christian + Sephardic_Jewish @ 7.288
10 Abhkasian + Assyrian + Cyprian + Georgian @ 7.289
11 Abhkasian + Cyprian + Georgian + Turkish @ 7.321
12 Abhkasian + Abhkasian + Cyprian + Turkish @ 7.334
13 Abhkasian + Assyrian + Georgian + Sephardic_Jewish @ 7.379
14 Armenian + Cyprian + Georgian + Georgian @ 7.420
15 Abhkasian + Abhkasian + Lebanese_Muslim + Sephardic_Jewish @ 7.448
16 Abhkasian + Abhkasian + Cyprian + Samaritan @ 7.455
17 Abhkasian + Armenian + Cyprian + Georgian @ 7.469
18 Assyrian + Cyprian + Georgian + Georgian @ 7.492
19 Abhkasian + Abhkasian + Armenian + Sephardic_Jewish @ 7.494
20 Cyprian + Georgian + Georgian + Turkish @ 7.498

Black Wolf
10-09-2013, 04:54 PM
Now I think the area of origin of the Atlantic component is probably either in Iberia or far Southwest France ie. Basque country. Bell Beakers perhaps?

orangepulp
10-09-2013, 05:00 PM
What is the origin of the East Med component? Which populations were taken as a reference?

Equilibrium
10-09-2013, 05:03 PM
What is the origin of the East Med component? Which populations were taken as a reference?

The thing is he changes the labels with every new test, there isn't much consistency. His last major test was the K36 analysis, there East-Med consisted of non-Muslim Levantine populations.

Caismeachd
10-09-2013, 05:09 PM
What populations does eastern euro come from? I have a little higher than average in that for British people.

Philo
10-09-2013, 05:15 PM
Population
East_Med 30.29%
West_Asian 14.92%
North_Sea 14.59%
West_Med 14.42%
Red_Sea 8.96%
Atlantic 7.13%
Baltic 3.49%
Eastern_Euro 2.55%
Northeast_African 1.12%
Siberian 0.99%
Southeast_Asian 0.77%
Oceanian 0.65%
Sub-Saharan 0.12%
Amerindian -
South_Asian -

Oracle:
Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Ashkenazi @ 8.851
2 Sephardic_Jewish @ 12.496
3 Cyprian @ 16.588
4 Greek @ 17.248
5 Syrian @ 17.954
6 Lebanese_Muslim @ 18.095
7 Tuscan @ 18.636
8 Jordanian @ 20.480
9 Turkish @ 20.774
10 Samaritan @ 21.470
165 iterations.


Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Syrian +50% Tuscan @ 8.475
2 50% Lebanese_Christian +50% North_Italian @ 8.771
3 50% Lebanese_Christian +50% Spanish_Galicia @ 8.838
4 50% Ashkenazi +50% Ashkenazi @ 8.851
5 50% Jordanian +50% Tuscan @ 8.885
6 50% Lebanese_Muslim +50% Tuscan @ 8.923
7 50% French +50% Lebanese_Christian @ 8.940
8 50% Lebanese_Christian +50% Tuscan @ 8.961
9 50% Lebanese_Christian +50% Serbian @ 9.045
10 50% Lebanese_Druze +50% Spanish_Galicia @ 9.081
13695 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Lebanese_Christian +25% Ashkenazi +25% Orcadian @ 5.708
2 50% Lebanese_Christian +25% Ashkenazi +25% Dutch @ 5.772
3 50% Cyprian +25% Norwegian +25% Samaritan @ 5.780
4 50% Lebanese_Christian +25% Ashkenazi +25% Norwegian @ 5.793
5 50% Samaritan +25% Cyprian +25% Norwegian @ 5.843
6 50% Cyprian +25% Orcadian +25% Samaritan @ 5.867
7 50% Lebanese_Christian +25% Ashkenazi +25% Southwest_English @ 5.886
8 50% Samaritan +25% Cyprian +25% Orcadian @ 5.891
9 50% Cyprian +25% Samaritan +25% Swedish @ 5.982
10 50% Cyprian +25% Lebanese_Christian +25% Norwegian @ 5.988
546889 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Ashkenazi + Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Christian + Orcadian @ 5.708
2 Ashkenazi + Lebanese_Christian + Orcadian + Samaritan @ 5.772
3 Ashkenazi + Dutch + Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Christian @ 5.772
4 Cyprian + Cyprian + Norwegian + Samaritan @ 5.780
5 Ashkenazi + Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Christian + Norwegian @ 5.793
6 Cyprian + Orcadian + Samaritan + Syrian @ 5.810
7 Cyprian + Norwegian + Samaritan + Syrian @ 5.812
8 Cyprian + Norwegian + Samaritan + Samaritan @ 5.843
9 Ashkenazi + Dutch + Lebanese_Christian + Samaritan @ 5.849
10 Ashkenazi + Lebanese_Christian + Norwegian + Samaritan @ 5.851
11 Cyprian + Cyprian + Orcadian + Samaritan @ 5.867
12 Ashkenazi + Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Christian + Southwest_English @ 5.886
13 Cyprian + Orcadian + Samaritan + Samaritan @ 5.891
14 Cyprian + Cyprian + Samaritan + Swedish @ 5.982
15 Cyprian + Cyprian + Lebanese_Christian + Norwegian @ 5.988
16 Cyprian + Lebanese_Christian + Orcadian + Syrian @ 6.005
17 Cyprian + Lebanese_Christian + Norwegian + Syrian @ 6.010
18 Ashkenazi + Lebanese_Christian + Samaritan + Southwest_English @ 6.018
19 Cyprian + Lebanese_Christian + Norwegian + Samaritan @ 6.026
20 Cyprian + Lebanese_Muslim + Norwegian + Samaritan @ 6.029

1785295 iterations.


Quite an interesting oracle. Southern Italian/Sicilian was nowhere to be found and Lebanese Christian popped everywhere. Perhaps ariel/aa100 was right after all.
Is "Red Sea" just a replacement of the traditional Southwest Asian component?

Equilibrium
10-09-2013, 05:16 PM
Is "Red Sea" just a replacement of the traditional Southwest Asian component?

Yes, Red Sea is equivalent to SWA.

orangepulp
10-09-2013, 05:19 PM
Philo, you are mixed. Where are you exactly from?

ariel
10-09-2013, 05:21 PM
Population
East_Med 30.29%
West_Asian 14.92%
North_Sea 14.59%
West_Med 14.42%
Red_Sea 8.96%
Atlantic 7.13%
Baltic 3.49%
Eastern_Euro 2.55%
Northeast_African 1.12%
Siberian 0.99%
Southeast_Asian 0.77%
Oceanian 0.65%
Sub-Saharan 0.12%
Amerindian -
South_Asian -

Oracle:
Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Ashkenazi @ 8.851
2 Sephardic_Jewish @ 12.496
3 Cyprian @ 16.588
4 Greek @ 17.248
5 Syrian @ 17.954
6 Lebanese_Muslim @ 18.095
7 Tuscan @ 18.636
8 Jordanian @ 20.480
9 Turkish @ 20.774
10 Samaritan @ 21.470
165 iterations.


Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Syrian +50% Tuscan @ 8.475
2 50% Lebanese_Christian +50% North_Italian @ 8.771
3 50% Lebanese_Christian +50% Spanish_Galicia @ 8.838
4 50% Ashkenazi +50% Ashkenazi @ 8.851
5 50% Jordanian +50% Tuscan @ 8.885
6 50% Lebanese_Muslim +50% Tuscan @ 8.923
7 50% French +50% Lebanese_Christian @ 8.940
8 50% Lebanese_Christian +50% Tuscan @ 8.961
9 50% Lebanese_Christian +50% Serbian @ 9.045
10 50% Lebanese_Druze +50% Spanish_Galicia @ 9.081
13695 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Lebanese_Christian +25% Ashkenazi +25% Orcadian @ 5.708
2 50% Lebanese_Christian +25% Ashkenazi +25% Dutch @ 5.772
3 50% Cyprian +25% Norwegian +25% Samaritan @ 5.780
4 50% Lebanese_Christian +25% Ashkenazi +25% Norwegian @ 5.793
5 50% Samaritan +25% Cyprian +25% Norwegian @ 5.843
6 50% Cyprian +25% Orcadian +25% Samaritan @ 5.867
7 50% Lebanese_Christian +25% Ashkenazi +25% Southwest_English @ 5.886
8 50% Samaritan +25% Cyprian +25% Orcadian @ 5.891
9 50% Cyprian +25% Samaritan +25% Swedish @ 5.982
10 50% Cyprian +25% Lebanese_Christian +25% Norwegian @ 5.988
546889 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Ashkenazi + Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Christian + Orcadian @ 5.708
2 Ashkenazi + Lebanese_Christian + Orcadian + Samaritan @ 5.772
3 Ashkenazi + Dutch + Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Christian @ 5.772
4 Cyprian + Cyprian + Norwegian + Samaritan @ 5.780
5 Ashkenazi + Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Christian + Norwegian @ 5.793
6 Cyprian + Orcadian + Samaritan + Syrian @ 5.810
7 Cyprian + Norwegian + Samaritan + Syrian @ 5.812
8 Cyprian + Norwegian + Samaritan + Samaritan @ 5.843
9 Ashkenazi + Dutch + Lebanese_Christian + Samaritan @ 5.849
10 Ashkenazi + Lebanese_Christian + Norwegian + Samaritan @ 5.851
11 Cyprian + Cyprian + Orcadian + Samaritan @ 5.867
12 Ashkenazi + Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Christian + Southwest_English @ 5.886
13 Cyprian + Orcadian + Samaritan + Samaritan @ 5.891
14 Cyprian + Cyprian + Samaritan + Swedish @ 5.982
15 Cyprian + Cyprian + Lebanese_Christian + Norwegian @ 5.988
16 Cyprian + Lebanese_Christian + Orcadian + Syrian @ 6.005
17 Cyprian + Lebanese_Christian + Norwegian + Syrian @ 6.010
18 Ashkenazi + Lebanese_Christian + Samaritan + Southwest_English @ 6.018
19 Cyprian + Lebanese_Christian + Norwegian + Samaritan @ 6.026
20 Cyprian + Lebanese_Muslim + Norwegian + Samaritan @ 6.029

1785295 iterations.


Quite an interesting oracle. Southern Italian/Sicilian was nowhere to be found and Lebanese Christian popped everywhere. Perhaps ariel/aa100 was right after all.
Is "Red Sea" just a replacement of the traditional Southwest Asian component?

long live israeli-christian levantine brotherhood

ariel
10-09-2013, 05:23 PM
Population
East_Med 30.29%
West_Asian 14.92%
North_Sea 14.59%
West_Med 14.42%
Red_Sea 8.96%
Atlantic 7.13%
Baltic 3.49%
Eastern_Euro 2.55%
Northeast_African 1.12%
Siberian 0.99%
Southeast_Asian 0.77%
Oceanian 0.65%
Sub-Saharan 0.12%
Amerindian -
South_Asian -

Oracle:
Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Ashkenazi @ 8.851
2 Sephardic_Jewish @ 12.496
3 Cyprian @ 16.588
4 Greek @ 17.248
5 Syrian @ 17.954
6 Lebanese_Muslim @ 18.095
7 Tuscan @ 18.636
8 Jordanian @ 20.480
9 Turkish @ 20.774
10 Samaritan @ 21.470
165 iterations.


Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Syrian +50% Tuscan @ 8.475
2 50% Lebanese_Christian +50% North_Italian @ 8.771
3 50% Lebanese_Christian +50% Spanish_Galicia @ 8.838
4 50% Ashkenazi +50% Ashkenazi @ 8.851
5 50% Jordanian +50% Tuscan @ 8.885
6 50% Lebanese_Muslim +50% Tuscan @ 8.923
7 50% French +50% Lebanese_Christian @ 8.940
8 50% Lebanese_Christian +50% Tuscan @ 8.961
9 50% Lebanese_Christian +50% Serbian @ 9.045
10 50% Lebanese_Druze +50% Spanish_Galicia @ 9.081
13695 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Lebanese_Christian +25% Ashkenazi +25% Orcadian @ 5.708
2 50% Lebanese_Christian +25% Ashkenazi +25% Dutch @ 5.772
3 50% Cyprian +25% Norwegian +25% Samaritan @ 5.780
4 50% Lebanese_Christian +25% Ashkenazi +25% Norwegian @ 5.793
5 50% Samaritan +25% Cyprian +25% Norwegian @ 5.843
6 50% Cyprian +25% Orcadian +25% Samaritan @ 5.867
7 50% Lebanese_Christian +25% Ashkenazi +25% Southwest_English @ 5.886
8 50% Samaritan +25% Cyprian +25% Orcadian @ 5.891
9 50% Cyprian +25% Samaritan +25% Swedish @ 5.982
10 50% Cyprian +25% Lebanese_Christian +25% Norwegian @ 5.988
546889 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Ashkenazi + Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Christian + Orcadian @ 5.708
2 Ashkenazi + Lebanese_Christian + Orcadian + Samaritan @ 5.772
3 Ashkenazi + Dutch + Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Christian @ 5.772
4 Cyprian + Cyprian + Norwegian + Samaritan @ 5.780
5 Ashkenazi + Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Christian + Norwegian @ 5.793
6 Cyprian + Orcadian + Samaritan + Syrian @ 5.810
7 Cyprian + Norwegian + Samaritan + Syrian @ 5.812
8 Cyprian + Norwegian + Samaritan + Samaritan @ 5.843
9 Ashkenazi + Dutch + Lebanese_Christian + Samaritan @ 5.849
10 Ashkenazi + Lebanese_Christian + Norwegian + Samaritan @ 5.851
11 Cyprian + Cyprian + Orcadian + Samaritan @ 5.867
12 Ashkenazi + Lebanese_Christian + Lebanese_Christian + Southwest_English @ 5.886
13 Cyprian + Orcadian + Samaritan + Samaritan @ 5.891
14 Cyprian + Cyprian + Samaritan + Swedish @ 5.982
15 Cyprian + Cyprian + Lebanese_Christian + Norwegian @ 5.988
16 Cyprian + Lebanese_Christian + Orcadian + Syrian @ 6.005
17 Cyprian + Lebanese_Christian + Norwegian + Syrian @ 6.010
18 Ashkenazi + Lebanese_Christian + Samaritan + Southwest_English @ 6.018
19 Cyprian + Lebanese_Christian + Norwegian + Samaritan @ 6.026
20 Cyprian + Lebanese_Muslim + Norwegian + Samaritan @ 6.029

1785295 iterations.


Quite an interesting oracle. Southern Italian/Sicilian was nowhere to be found and Lebanese Christian popped everywhere. Perhaps ariel/aa100 was right after all.
Is "Red Sea" just a replacement of the traditional Southwest Asian component?

deleted

Philo
10-09-2013, 05:45 PM
Philo, you are mixed. Where are you exactly from?

Jew.


Mine:

East_Med - 29.10%
Atlantic - 14.92%
West_Med - 12.85%
West_Asian - 11.82%
--------------------------------
Red_Sea - 9.21%
North_Sea - 8.69%
Baltic - 7.40%
Eastern_Euro - 3.32%
Northeast_African - 1.39%
--------------------------------
Siberian - 0.77%
Sub-Saharan - 0.45%
Oceanian - 0.08%
--------------------------------
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Amerindian -
--------------------------------

That's very interesting that you diverge so much from my results, considering we're from the same ethnic group. :).

Alessio
10-09-2013, 07:16 PM
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 27.27
2 North_Sea 21.89
3 East_Med 13.74
4 West_Med 13.21
5 West_Asian 11.33
6 Baltic 6.45
7 Eastern_Euro 3.27
8 Red_Sea 2.86


--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 North_Italian @ 11.432
2 Spanish_Cataluna @ 12.179
3 French @ 12.417
4 Spanish_Murcia @ 12.550
5 Spanish_Extremadura @ 12.700
6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 12.862
7 Portuguese @ 12.879
8 Spanish_Galicia @ 13.807
9 Tuscan @ 14.414
10 Spanish_Valencia @ 14.427
165 iterations.



Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Southeast_English +50% Tuscan @ 7.105
2 50% Southwest_English +50% Tuscan @ 7.438
3 50% Irish +50% Tuscan @ 7.448
4 50% French +50% Tuscan @ 7.588
5 50% German +50% Tuscan @ 7.630
6 50% Irish +50% Sephardic_Jewish @ 7.750
7 50% Tuscan +50% West_Scottish @ 7.805
8 50% Sephardic_Jewish +50% West_Scottish @ 7.907
9 50% Danish +50% Tuscan @ 7.994
10 50% Sephardic_Jewish +50% Southeast_English @ 8.243
13695 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Southeast_English +25% Assyrian +25% French_Basque @ 3.719
2 50% Southwest_English +25% Assyrian +25% French_Basque @ 3.751
3 50% Spanish_Aragon +25% Armenian +25% West_Scottish @ 4.184
4 50% Southeast_English +25% Armenian +25% French_Basque @ 4.261
5 50% Spanish_Aragon +25% Armenian +25% Irish @ 4.267
6 50% Spanish_Aragon +25% Armenian +25% Orcadian @ 4.333
7 50% Irish +25% Assyrian +25% French_Basque @ 4.381
8 50% Southeast_English +25% Assyrian +25% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.448
9 50% Southwest_English +25% Armenian +25% French_Basque @ 4.479
10 50% Southwest_English +25% Assyrian +25% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.516
543869 iterations.

Alessio
10-09-2013, 07:17 PM
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 27.27
2 North_Sea 21.89
3 East_Med 13.74
4 West_Med 13.21
5 West_Asian 11.33
6 Baltic 6.45
7 Eastern_Euro 3.27
8 Red_Sea 2.86


--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 North_Italian @ 11.432
2 Spanish_Cataluna @ 12.179
3 French @ 12.417
4 Spanish_Murcia @ 12.550
5 Spanish_Extremadura @ 12.700
6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 12.862
7 Portuguese @ 12.879
8 Spanish_Galicia @ 13.807
9 Tuscan @ 14.414
10 Spanish_Valencia @ 14.427
165 iterations.



Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Southeast_English +50% Tuscan @ 7.105
2 50% Southwest_English +50% Tuscan @ 7.438
3 50% Irish +50% Tuscan @ 7.448
4 50% French +50% Tuscan @ 7.588
5 50% German +50% Tuscan @ 7.630
6 50% Irish +50% Sephardic_Jewish @ 7.750
7 50% Tuscan +50% West_Scottish @ 7.805
8 50% Sephardic_Jewish +50% West_Scottish @ 7.907
9 50% Danish +50% Tuscan @ 7.994
10 50% Sephardic_Jewish +50% Southeast_English @ 8.243
13695 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Southeast_English +25% Assyrian +25% French_Basque @ 3.719
2 50% Southwest_English +25% Assyrian +25% French_Basque @ 3.751
3 50% Spanish_Aragon +25% Armenian +25% West_Scottish @ 4.184
4 50% Southeast_English +25% Armenian +25% French_Basque @ 4.261
5 50% Spanish_Aragon +25% Armenian +25% Irish @ 4.267
6 50% Spanish_Aragon +25% Armenian +25% Orcadian @ 4.333
7 50% Irish +25% Assyrian +25% French_Basque @ 4.381
8 50% Southeast_English +25% Assyrian +25% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.448
9 50% Southwest_English +25% Armenian +25% French_Basque @ 4.479
10 50% Southwest_English +25% Assyrian +25% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.516
543869 iterations.

Alessio
10-09-2013, 07:19 PM
Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle-x Population Fitting:

Admix Results:

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 21.78
2 Atlantic 27.13
3 Baltic 6.41
4 Eastern_Euro 3.25
5 West_Med 13.14
6 West_Asian 11.27
7 East_Med 13.67
8 Red_Sea 2.85
9 South_Asian 0.00
10 Southeast_Asian 0.00
11 Siberian 0.42
12 Amerindian 0.02
13 Oceanian 0.00
14 Northeast_African 0.05
15 Sub-Saharan 0.00


Pct. Calc. Option 2

1 Spanish_Cataluna 49.29%
2 Iranian 13.66%
3 Irish 9.65%
4 North_Ossetian 7.55%
5 West_Scottish 6.42%
6 Southeast_English 4.43%
7 Spanish_Murcia 2.93%
8 Tuscan 2.92%
9 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 2.06%
10 Spanish_Extremadura 1.09%

Alessio
10-09-2013, 07:33 PM
Oracle option 2:

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Italian 10.04
2 French 10.58
3 Spanish_Cataluna 10.66
4 Spanish_Murcia 11.01
5 Spanish_Extremadura 11.21
6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 11.29
7 Portuguese 11.36
8 Spanish_Galicia 12.1
9 Tuscan 12.39
10 Spanish_Valencia 12.62
11 Spanish_Andalucia 13.01
12 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 13.1
13 Serbian 14.5
14 Spanish_Cantabria 14.62
15 Spanish_Aragon 14.85
16 Romanian 14.91
17 Southwest_French 15.64
18 Bulgarian 16.09
19 Austrian 16.11
20 German 16.2

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62.8% Tuscan + 37.2% Irish @ 5.03
2 63.6% Tuscan + 36.4% West_Scottish @ 5.12
3 60.6% Tuscan + 39.4% Southeast_English @ 5.25
4 63.3% Tuscan + 36.7% Danish @ 5.48
5 60.5% Southwest_English + 39.5% Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.57
6 59.8% Southeast_English + 40.2% Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.64
7 60.2% Tuscan + 39.8% Southwest_English @ 5.71
8 77.8% French + 22.2% Turkish @ 5.73
9 57.5% Irish + 42.5% Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.74
10 81.5% French + 18.5% Armenian @ 5.79
11 81.5% French + 18.5% Assyrian @ 5.79
12 83.3% Spanish_Cataluna + 16.7% Georgian @ 5.8
13 80% Spanish_Cataluna + 20% Kumyk @ 5.82
14 81.3% Spanish_Cataluna + 18.7% Lezgin @ 5.93
15 82% Spanish_Cataluna + 18% Adygei @ 5.93
16 84.5% Spanish_Cataluna + 15.5% Abhkasian @ 5.97
17 80.1% French + 19.9% Lebanese_Muslim @ 5.99
18 80.6% Spanish_Murcia + 19.4% Lezgin @ 6
19 66.2% Tuscan + 33.8% Orcadian @ 6.06
20 56.6% West_Scottish + 43.4% Sephardic_Jewish @ 6.07

Alessio
10-09-2013, 07:34 PM
Oracle option 2:

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Italian 10.04
2 French 10.58
3 Spanish_Cataluna 10.66
4 Spanish_Murcia 11.01
5 Spanish_Extremadura 11.21
6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 11.29
7 Portuguese 11.36
8 Spanish_Galicia 12.1
9 Tuscan 12.39
10 Spanish_Valencia 12.62
11 Spanish_Andalucia 13.01
12 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 13.1
13 Serbian 14.5
14 Spanish_Cantabria 14.62
15 Spanish_Aragon 14.85
16 Romanian 14.91
17 Southwest_French 15.64
18 Bulgarian 16.09
19 Austrian 16.11
20 German 16.2

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62.8% Tuscan + 37.2% Irish @ 5.03
2 63.6% Tuscan + 36.4% West_Scottish @ 5.12
3 60.6% Tuscan + 39.4% Southeast_English @ 5.25
4 63.3% Tuscan + 36.7% Danish @ 5.48
5 60.5% Southwest_English + 39.5% Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.57
6 59.8% Southeast_English + 40.2% Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.64
7 60.2% Tuscan + 39.8% Southwest_English @ 5.71
8 77.8% French + 22.2% Turkish @ 5.73
9 57.5% Irish + 42.5% Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.74
10 81.5% French + 18.5% Armenian @ 5.79
11 81.5% French + 18.5% Assyrian @ 5.79
12 83.3% Spanish_Cataluna + 16.7% Georgian @ 5.8
13 80% Spanish_Cataluna + 20% Kumyk @ 5.82
14 81.3% Spanish_Cataluna + 18.7% Lezgin @ 5.93
15 82% Spanish_Cataluna + 18% Adygei @ 5.93
16 84.5% Spanish_Cataluna + 15.5% Abhkasian @ 5.97
17 80.1% French + 19.9% Lebanese_Muslim @ 5.99
18 80.6% Spanish_Murcia + 19.4% Lezgin @ 6
19 66.2% Tuscan + 33.8% Orcadian @ 6.06
20 56.6% West_Scottish + 43.4% Sephardic_Jewish @ 6.07

Maleficent
10-09-2013, 08:31 PM
Ruben, the Option 1 and Option 2 only actually works for the Oracle-X.

Maleficent
10-09-2013, 09:00 PM
What is the origin of the East Med component? Which populations were taken as a reference?
The thing is he changes the labels with every new test, there isn't much consistency. His last major test was the K36 analysis, there East-Med consisted of non-Muslim Levantine populations.
For Eurogenes K36, the reference populations used for the East_Med component were: Cypriot, Druze, Lebanese Christian, and Lebanese Druze.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9o3EYTdM8lQUlVTRmxQdGpZdW8/preview?pli=1

For Eurogenese EUTest/Jtest, the reference populations used for the East_Med component were: Druze and Samaritans.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9o3EYTdM8lQS1lQYUZIVlNmTlk/preview?pli=1

What populations does eastern euro come from? I have a little higher than average in that for British people.
On Eurogenes EUtest/Jtest, the reference population for East_Euro was Udmurts.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9o3EYTdM8lQS1lQYUZIVlNmTlk/preview?pli=1

And on Eurogenes K36, the reference samples for Eastern_Euro were: Erzya, Kargopol, and Moksha.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9o3EYTdM8lQUlVTRmxQdGpZdW8/preview?pli=1


Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 is most similar to EUtest/Jest overall, but we shall see what happens when the spreadsheet for this new calculator is released.

amerinese
10-09-2013, 09:08 PM
Polako should kick down a mf'in' spreadsheet, pronto.

Atlantic Islander
10-09-2013, 09:10 PM
I'm surprised Graham hasn't made a list (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?70027-Post-your-EUtest-amp-Jtest-results&p=1349953&viewfull=1#post1349953) yet. :p

Jackson
10-09-2013, 09:12 PM
Polako should kick down a mf'in' spreadsheet, pronto.

I know i'm getting spreadsheet withdrawal symptoms and PCAs are keeping me awake at night.

amerinese
10-09-2013, 09:15 PM
I know i'm getting spreadsheet withdrawal symptoms and PCAs are keeping me awake at night.

Yeah, the shit is meaningless unless you can see the populations where the reference groups peak.

Black Wolf
10-09-2013, 10:24 PM
What is the origin of the East Med component? Which populations were taken as a reference?

The East Med component probably originated in the Levant.

Jackson
10-09-2013, 10:53 PM
Yeah, the shit is meaningless unless you can see the populations where the reference groups peak.

The number addiction needs to be tended to. :P

Black Wolf
10-09-2013, 11:40 PM
Even without the spreadsheet ready I think it is quite easy to think of where the components may have originated. Here is where I think the major West Eurasian components may have originated.

North_Sea: Frisia, Northern Germany or Denmark
Atlantic: Iberia or Southwest France
Baltic 10.15%: East Baltic
Eastern_Euro: Central or North European Russia
West_Med: Italy or Southern Iberia
West_Asian: Caucasus or Nothern Fertile Crescent
East_Med: Levant
Red_Sea: Arabian Plate
South_Asian: Indian Subcontinent

Sippola
10-10-2013, 02:32 AM
# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 26.08
2 Baltic 24.51
3 Eastern_Euro 23.69
4 Atlantic 17.61
5 Siberian 6.86
6 Amerindian 1.25


--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 East_Finnish @ 4.394
2 Finnish @ 7.270
3 Southwest_Finnish @ 9.976
4 Kargopol_Russian @ 10.127
5 Estonian @ 10.326
6 Belorussian @ 13.242
7 Polish @ 13.456
8 Ukrainian @ 13.563
9 Russian @ 13.566
10 Erzya @ 14.349
165 iterations.



Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% East_Finnish +50% East_Finnish @ 4.394
2 50% East_Finnish +50% Finnish @ 4.885
3 50% Finnish +50% Kargopol_Russian @ 5.020
4 50% East_Finnish +50% Estonian @ 5.220
5 50% Kargopol_Russian +50% Southwest_Finnish @ 5.477
6 50% East_Finnish +50% Southwest_Finnish @ 5.821
7 50% Erzya +50% Southwest_Finnish @ 5.913
8 50% Erzya +50% Finnish @ 6.361
9 50% East_Finnish +50% Kargopol_Russian @ 6.415
10 50% Erzya +50% North_Swedish @ 6.663
13695 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% East_Finnish +25% East_Finnish +25% Estonian @ 3.788
2 50% East_Finnish +25% East_Finnish +25% Finnish @ 4.305
3 50% East_Finnish +25% Estonian +25% Finnish @ 4.386
4 50% East_Finnish +25% East_Finnish +25% East_Finnish @ 4.394
5 50% East_Finnish +25% Finnish +25% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.403
6 50% Finnish +25% East_Finnish +25% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.426
7 50% East_Finnish +25% Kargopol_Russian +25% Southwest_Finnish @ 4.445
8 50% East_Finnish +25% Finnish +25% Lithuanian @ 4.474
9 50% East_Finnish +25% East_Finnish +25% Lithuanian @ 4.479
10 50% East_Finnish +25% Belorussian +25% Finnish @ 4.486
201512 iterations.



Using 4 populations approximation:
1 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Estonian @ 3.788
2 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Finnish @ 4.305
3 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Estonian + Finnish @ 4.386
4 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + East_Finnish + East_Finnish @ 4.394
5 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Finnish + Kargopol_Russian @ 4.403
6 East_Finnish + Finnish + Finnish + Kargopol_Russian @ 4.426
7 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Kargopol_Russian + Southwest_Finnish @ 4.445
8 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Finnish + Lithuanian @ 4.474
9 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Lithuanian @ 4.479
10 Belorussian + East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Finnish @ 4.486
11 Belorussian + East_Finnish + East_Finnish + East_Finnish @ 4.494
12 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Southwest_Finnish @ 4.496
13 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Estonian + Southwest_Finnish @ 4.560
14 East_Finnish + Erzya + Finnish + Southwest_Finnish @ 4.563
15 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Lithuanian + Southwest_Finnish @ 4.575
16 East_Finnish + Erzya + Finnish + Finnish @ 4.606
17 East_Finnish + Estonian + Finnish + Kargopol_Russian @ 4.653
18 East_Finnish + Finnish + Kargopol_Russian + Southwest_Finnish @ 4.665
19 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Estonian + Kargopol_Russian @ 4.679
20 East_Finnish + Estonian + Kargopol_Russian + Southwest_Finnish @ 4.680

Alessio
10-10-2013, 03:07 AM
Ruben, the Option 1 and Option 2 only actually works for the Oracle-X.

Thnx!

Alessio
10-10-2013, 03:10 AM
Why do I have under Oracle ( 1 62.8% Tuscan + 37.2% Irish @ 5.03 ) and under oracle4 (1 50% Southeast_English +50% Tuscan @ 7.105) The difference between those 2 are at least 12.8 %.
Why is there such a difference between those two?

Skywalker
10-10-2013, 03:22 AM
My Results for V2 K15
North_Sea 23.46
2 Baltic 21.59
3 Atlantic 13.41
4 Eastern_Euro 11.8
5 West_Med 11.42
6 East_Med 8.89
7 West_Asian 7.6
8 Red_Sea 0.73
9 Oceanian 0.51
10 Sub-Saharan 0.42
11 Amerindian 0.17

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 4.81
2 Serbian 8.43
3 Ukrainian_West 9.33
4 Austrian 9.76
5 Romanian 10.33
6 Ukrainian 10.44
7 Polish 10.64
8 Bulgarian 13.03
9 Russian 14.65
10 Ukrainian_Northeast 15.16
11 Southwest_Finnish 15.87
12 Finnish 15.96
13 German 16.01
14 Belorussian 16.77
15 Estonian 16.87
16 French 17.9
17 East_Finnish 18.04
18 North_Swedish 18.2
19 Kargopol_Russian 18.72
20 Dutch 19.13

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.9% Hungarian + 5.1% Armenian @ 4.19
2 84.3% Hungarian + 15.7% Bulgarian @ 4.22
3 95% Hungarian + 5% Assyrian @ 4.23
4 94.5% Hungarian + 5.5% Cyprian @ 4.24
5 95.4% Hungarian + 4.6% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.27
6 81.1% Hungarian + 18.9% Romanian @ 4.29
7 72.7% Ukrainian_West + 27.3% Tuscan @ 4.29
8 95.4% Hungarian + 4.6% Samaritan @ 4.3
9 90.8% Hungarian + 9.2% Greek @ 4.32
10 95.1% Hungarian + 4.9% Lebanese_Muslim @ 4.34
11 95.7% Hungarian + 4.3% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.34
12 95.2% Hungarian + 4.8% Syrian @ 4.36
13 95.9% Hungarian + 4.1% Georgian @ 4.36
14 96.2% Hungarian + 3.8% Abhkasian @ 4.37
15 92.6% Hungarian + 7.4% Ashkenazi @ 4.38
16 95.6% Hungarian + 4.4% Kurdish @ 4.41
17 94.9% Hungarian + 5.1% Turkish @ 4.41
18 95.8% Hungarian + 4.2% Jordanian @ 4.42
19 95.8% Hungarian + 4.2% Iranian @ 4.44
20 95.3% Hungarian + 4.7% Kumyk @ 4.45

Skywalker
10-10-2013, 03:24 AM
My 4 Ancestors Oracle:
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Hungarian @ 5.690
2 Serbian @ 10.159
3 Ukrainian_West @ 10.823
4 Austrian @ 11.498
5 Ukrainian @ 12.047
6 Polish @ 12.259
7 Romanian @ 12.456
8 Bulgarian @ 15.618
9 Russian @ 16.984
10 Ukrainian_Northeast @ 17.503
165 iterations.



Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Hungarian +50% Hungarian @ 5.690
2 50% Serbian +50% Ukrainian_West @ 5.917
3 50% Romanian +50% Ukrainian_West @ 5.926
4 50% Romanian +50% Ukrainian @ 5.997
5 50% Serbian +50% Ukrainian @ 6.377
6 50% Bulgarian +50% Estonian @ 6.381
7 50% Estonian +50% Romanian @ 6.634
8 50% Hungarian +50% Serbian @ 6.696
9 50% Polish +50% Romanian @ 6.777
10 50% Hungarian +50% Romanian @ 6.919
13695 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Hungarian +25% Romanian +25% Ukrainian_West @ 4.797
2 50% Ukrainian_West +25% Greek +25% Swedish @ 4.875
3 50% Hungarian +25% Bulgarian +25% Ukrainian_West @ 4.889
4 50% Hungarian +25% Romanian +25% Ukrainian @ 4.902
5 50% Hungarian +25% Bulgarian +25% Ukrainian @ 4.960
6 50% Hungarian +25% Estonian +25% Greek @ 5.047
7 50% Ukrainian_West +25% Greek +25% Norwegian @ 5.141
8 50% Romanian +25% Estonian +25% Hungarian @ 5.162
9 50% Ukrainian +25% Greek +25% Swedish @ 5.221
10 50% Hungarian +25% Bulgarian +25% Estonian @ 5.286
486186 iterations.



Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Hungarian + Hungarian + Romanian + Ukrainian_West @ 4.797
2 Greek + Swedish + Ukrainian_West + Ukrainian_West @ 4.875
3 Bulgarian + Hungarian + Hungarian + Ukrainian_West @ 4.889
4 Hungarian + Hungarian + Romanian + Ukrainian @ 4.902
5 Bulgarian + Hungarian + Hungarian + Ukrainian @ 4.960
6 Greek + Swedish + Ukrainian + Ukrainian_West @ 5.012
7 Estonian + Greek + Hungarian + Hungarian @ 5.047
8 Greek + Norwegian + Ukrainian_West + Ukrainian_West @ 5.141
9 Estonian + Hungarian + Romanian + Romanian @ 5.162
10 Greek + Swedish + Ukrainian + Ukrainian @ 5.221
11 Bulgarian + Estonian + Hungarian + Hungarian @ 5.286
12 Hungarian + Hungarian + Serbian + Ukrainian_West @ 5.288
13 Greek + Norwegian + Ukrainian + Ukrainian_West @ 5.297
14 Estonian + Hungarian + Tuscan + Ukrainian_West @ 5.307
15 Hungarian + Tuscan + Ukrainian_West + Ukrainian_West @ 5.338
16 Hungarian + Hungarian + Hungarian + Romanian @ 5.352
17 Hungarian + Tuscan + Ukrainian + Ukrainian_West @ 5.359
18 Estonian + Greek + Hungarian + Ukrainian_West @ 5.379
19 Bulgarian + Estonian + Hungarian + Romanian @ 5.390
20 Hungarian + Hungarian + Polish + Romanian @ 5.398

Skywalker
10-10-2013, 03:27 AM
My Oracle X:
Option 1
Pct. Calc. Option 1

1 Ukrainian_West 41.92%
2 Hungarian 37.31%
3 Armenian 8.29%
4 Swedish 7.21%
5 Sardinian 5.27%
6 Greek 0.00%
7 Romanian 0.00%
8 Ashkenazi 0.00%
9 Ukrainian 0.00%
10 Bulgarian 0.00%

Option 2
Pct. Calc. Option 2

0 Unable to determine 0.02%
1 Hungarian 48.33%
2 Ukrainian_West 8.84%
3 Armenian 6.86%
4 Ukrainian 6.30%
5 Estonian 5.92%
6 Polish 5.90%
7 Cyprian 5.62%
8 Swedish 4.62%
9 Lithuanian 4.14%
10 Sardinian 3.43%

Black Wolf
10-10-2013, 03:57 AM
# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 26.08
2 Baltic 24.51
3 Eastern_Euro 23.69
4 Atlantic 17.61
5 Siberian 6.86
6 Amerindian 1.25


--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 East_Finnish @ 4.394
2 Finnish @ 7.270
3 Southwest_Finnish @ 9.976
4 Kargopol_Russian @ 10.127
5 Estonian @ 10.326
6 Belorussian @ 13.242
7 Polish @ 13.456
8 Ukrainian @ 13.563
9 Russian @ 13.566
10 Erzya @ 14.349
165 iterations.



Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% East_Finnish +50% East_Finnish @ 4.394
2 50% East_Finnish +50% Finnish @ 4.885
3 50% Finnish +50% Kargopol_Russian @ 5.020
4 50% East_Finnish +50% Estonian @ 5.220
5 50% Kargopol_Russian +50% Southwest_Finnish @ 5.477
6 50% East_Finnish +50% Southwest_Finnish @ 5.821
7 50% Erzya +50% Southwest_Finnish @ 5.913
8 50% Erzya +50% Finnish @ 6.361
9 50% East_Finnish +50% Kargopol_Russian @ 6.415
10 50% Erzya +50% North_Swedish @ 6.663
13695 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% East_Finnish +25% East_Finnish +25% Estonian @ 3.788
2 50% East_Finnish +25% East_Finnish +25% Finnish @ 4.305
3 50% East_Finnish +25% Estonian +25% Finnish @ 4.386
4 50% East_Finnish +25% East_Finnish +25% East_Finnish @ 4.394
5 50% East_Finnish +25% Finnish +25% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.403
6 50% Finnish +25% East_Finnish +25% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.426
7 50% East_Finnish +25% Kargopol_Russian +25% Southwest_Finnish @ 4.445
8 50% East_Finnish +25% Finnish +25% Lithuanian @ 4.474
9 50% East_Finnish +25% East_Finnish +25% Lithuanian @ 4.479
10 50% East_Finnish +25% Belorussian +25% Finnish @ 4.486
201512 iterations.



Using 4 populations approximation:
1 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Estonian @ 3.788
2 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Finnish @ 4.305
3 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Estonian + Finnish @ 4.386
4 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + East_Finnish + East_Finnish @ 4.394
5 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Finnish + Kargopol_Russian @ 4.403
6 East_Finnish + Finnish + Finnish + Kargopol_Russian @ 4.426
7 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Kargopol_Russian + Southwest_Finnish @ 4.445
8 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Finnish + Lithuanian @ 4.474
9 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Lithuanian @ 4.479
10 Belorussian + East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Finnish @ 4.486
11 Belorussian + East_Finnish + East_Finnish + East_Finnish @ 4.494
12 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Southwest_Finnish @ 4.496
13 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Estonian + Southwest_Finnish @ 4.560
14 East_Finnish + Erzya + Finnish + Southwest_Finnish @ 4.563
15 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Lithuanian + Southwest_Finnish @ 4.575
16 East_Finnish + Erzya + Finnish + Finnish @ 4.606
17 East_Finnish + Estonian + Finnish + Kargopol_Russian @ 4.653
18 East_Finnish + Finnish + Kargopol_Russian + Southwest_Finnish @ 4.665
19 East_Finnish + East_Finnish + Estonian + Kargopol_Russian @ 4.679
20 East_Finnish + Estonian + Kargopol_Russian + Southwest_Finnish @ 4.680

Your avatar cracks me up man lol! :cool:

Maleficent
10-10-2013, 07:35 AM
Thnx!
Your welcome! :)

Atlantic Islander
10-10-2013, 11:10 PM
Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Admixture Proportions

Atlantic 28.61%
North_Sea 23.08%
West_Med 21.18%
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East_Med 12.34%
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Red_Sea 3.37%
Baltic 3.17%
Eastern_Euro 2.60%
Northeast_African 2.14%
West_Asian 1.21%
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Sub-Saharan 0.80%
Siberian 0.59%
Amerindian 0.45%
Oceanian 0.42%
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -

http://imageshack.us/a/img580/2162/xdm6.png

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 28.61
2 North_Sea 23.08
3 West_Med 21.18
4 East_Med 12.34
5 Red_Sea 3.37
6 Baltic 3.17
7 Eastern_Euro 2.6
8 Northeast_African 2.14
9 West_Asian 1.21
10 Sub-Saharan 0.8
11 Siberian 0.59
12 Amerindian 0.45
13 Oceanian 0.42
14 Southeast_Asian 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Murcia 3.72
2 Portuguese 3.96
3 Spanish_Extremadura 4.16
4 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 5.22
5 Spanish_Cataluna 5.27
6 Spanish_Galicia 5.71
7 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 7.1
8 Spanish_Valencia 7.23
9 Spanish_Cantabria 7.51
10 Spanish_Andalucia 7.87
11 Spanish_Aragon 8.26
12 North_Italian 9.83
13 Southwest_French 10.2
14 French 10.84
15 Tuscan 15.27
16 French_Basque 18.06
17 Southwest_English 18.4
18 German 19.48
19 Southeast_English 19.61
20 Serbian 20.22

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.5% Spanish_Murcia + 43.5% Portuguese @ 3.34
2 74.6% Spanish_Murcia + 25.4% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.37
3 94.8% Spanish_Murcia + 5.2% Orcadian @ 3.49
4 95.9% Spanish_Murcia + 4.1% Norwegian @ 3.55
5 94.7% Spanish_Murcia + 5.3% Southwest_English @ 3.58
6 91.2% Spanish_Murcia + 8.8% French @ 3.58
7 95.7% Spanish_Murcia + 4.3% Dutch @ 3.59
8 96.6% Spanish_Murcia + 3.4% Swedish @ 3.6
9 95.5% Spanish_Murcia + 4.5% Southeast_English @ 3.6
10 96.1% Spanish_Murcia + 3.9% West_Scottish @ 3.61
11 96.1% Spanish_Murcia + 3.9% Danish @ 3.61
12 96.5% Spanish_Murcia + 3.5% Irish @ 3.64
13 97.5% Spanish_Murcia + 2.5% North_Swedish @ 3.65
14 79.9% Spanish_Murcia + 20.1% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.68
15 97.8% Spanish_Murcia + 2.2% German @ 3.69
16 99.4% Spanish_Murcia + 0.6% Ethiopian_Tigray @ 3.69
17 99.4% Spanish_Murcia + 0.6% Ethiopian_Amhara @ 3.69
18 99.5% Spanish_Murcia + 0.5% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 3.7
19 99.5% Spanish_Murcia + 0.5% Ethiopian_Oromo @ 3.7
20 99.5% Spanish_Murcia + 0.5% Somali @ 3.7

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 4-Ancestors Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 29.28
2 North_Sea 23.63
3 West_Med 21.68
4 East_Med 12.63
5 Red_Sea 3.45
6 Baltic 3.25
7 Eastern_Euro 2.66
8 Northeast_African 2.19
9 West_Asian 1.24


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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Spanish_Murcia @ 4.723
2 Portuguese @ 5.236
3 Spanish_Extremadura @ 5.293
4 Spanish_Cataluna @ 6.125
5 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 6.350
6 Spanish_Galicia @ 7.088
7 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 8.270
8 Spanish_Valencia @ 8.360
9 Spanish_Cantabria @ 8.719
10 Spanish_Andalucia @ 9.353
165 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Portuguese +50% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.487
2 50% Spanish_Murcia +50% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.723
3 50% Spanish_Extremadura +50% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.837
4 50% Spanish_Galicia +50% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.838
5 50% Portuguese +50% Spanish_Extremadura @ 5.027
6 50% Spanish_Cataluna +50% Spanish_Murcia @ 5.088
7 50% Portuguese +50% Portuguese @ 5.236
8 50% Spanish_Cataluna +50% Spanish_Extremadura @ 5.253
9 50% Spanish_Extremadura +50% Spanish_Extremadura @ 5.293
10 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +50% Spanish_Murcia @ 5.306
13695 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Spanish_Murcia +25% Spanish_Galicia +25% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.431
2 50% Spanish_Murcia +25% Portuguese +25% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.477
3 50% Portuguese +25% Spanish_Murcia +25% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.487
4 50% Spanish_Murcia +25% Portuguese +25% Portuguese @ 4.487
5 50% Spanish_Murcia +25% Portuguese +25% Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.599
6 50% Spanish_Murcia +25% Portuguese +25% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.601
7 50% Spanish_Murcia +25% Spanish_Extremadura +25% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.626
8 50% Spanish_Murcia +25% Portuguese +25% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.684
9 50% Portuguese +25% Spanish_Extremadura +25% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.718
10 50% Spanish_Murcia +25% Spanish_Murcia +25% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.723
441477 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.431
2 Portuguese + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.477
3 Portuguese + Portuguese + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.487
4 Portuguese + Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.599
5 Portuguese + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.601
6 Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.626
7 Portuguese + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.684
8 Portuguese + Portuguese + Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.718
9 Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.723
10 Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.734
11 Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.738
12 Portuguese + Portuguese + Portuguese + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.754
13 Portuguese + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.803
14 Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.805
15 Portuguese + Portuguese + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.811
16 Portuguese + Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.812
17 Portuguese + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.817
18 Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.832
19 Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Extremadura + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.837
20 Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.838
1623776 iterations.

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle-x Population Fitting

Pct. Calc. Option 1

1 Spanish_Murcia 67.03%
2 Portuguese 26.69%
3 Orcadian 4.60%
4 Algerian 1.62%
5 Spanish_Galicia 0.02%
6 Moroccan 0.02%
7 Mozabite_Berber 0.01%
8 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 0.01%
9 Spanish_Cataluna 0.00%
10 Spanish_Extremadura 0.00%

Pct. Calc. Option 2

1 Spanish_Murcia 58.13%
2 Portuguese 18.02%
3 Orcadian 6.85%
4 Algerian 6.18%
5 Spanish_Galicia 5.50%
6 Spanish_Extremadura 3.14%
7 Spanish_Cantabria 1.10%
8 Spanish_Cataluna 1.09%
9 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 0.00%
10 French 0.00%

http://imageshack.us/a/img7/5889/3k44.png

MfA_
10-10-2013, 11:20 PM
36.00 West_Asian
32.96 East_Med
8.45 South_Asian
5.81 West_Med
4.97 Eastern_Euro
3.72 Red_Sea
3.50 Atlantic
2.96 Baltic
0.92 Siberian
0.60 Amerindian
0.11 Northeast_African
- North_Sea
- Southeast_Asian
- Oceanian
- Sub-Saharan

Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Kurdish 3.64
2 Iranian 6.68
3 Armenian 7.59
4 Turkish 9.69
5 Assyrian 10.19
6 Lebanese_Muslim 16.94
7 Kumyk 17.91
8 Syrian 18.84
9 Cyprian 20.22
10 Georgian 20.27

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.7% Kurdish + 21.3% Armenian @ 3.11
2 97.6% Kurdish + 2.4% Sardinian @ 3.39
3 95.3% Kurdish + 4.7% Cyprian @ 3.5
4 96.1% Kurdish + 3.9% Abhkasian @ 3.51
5 91.3% Kurdish + 8.7% Assyrian @ 3.52
6 96.1% Kurdish + 3.9% Georgian @ 3.54
7 94% Kurdish + 6% Turkish @ 3.59
8 97.9% Kurdish + 2.1% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.61
9 98.4% Kurdish + 1.6% Samaritan @ 3.61
10 98.5% Kurdish + 1.5% North_Ossetian @ 3.62
11 98.4% Kurdish + 1.6% Balkar @ 3.62
12 98.9% Kurdish + 1.1% Greek @ 3.62
13 98.8% Kurdish + 1.2% Adygei @ 3.63
14 99% Kurdish + 1% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.63
15 98.7% Kurdish + 1.3% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.63
16 99.6% Kurdish + 0.4% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.63
17 99.9% Kurdish + 0.1% Tuscan @ 3.64
18 100% Kurdish + 0% Mozabite_Berber @ 3.64
19 100% Kurdish + 0% Mayan @ 3.64
20 100% Kurdish + 0% Algerian @ 3.64

I have 20 Kurdish GEDmatch IDs and I am the closest one to the reference Kurdish sample with 3.64 distance.

Pct. Calc. Option 1
1 Kurdish 70.13%
2 Armenian 13.24%
3 Cyprian 7.61%
4 Abhkasian 6.16%
5 Brahui 2.73%
6 Assyrian 0.07%
7 Sardinian 0.03%
8 Makrani 0.02%
9 Balochi 0.01%
10 Turkish 0.00%

Pct. Calc. Option 2
1 Kurdish 69.93%
2 Armenian 16.36%
3 Sardinian 4.74%
4 Abhkasian 3.21%
5 Iranian 2.44%
6 Makrani 2.21%
7 Brahui 1.11%
8 Turkish 0.00%
9 Cyprian 0.00%
10 Balochi 0.00%

http://abload.de/img/m1337_5b1107eiuxh.png

http://abload.de/img/desktop_2013_10_11_0221u5g.png

BTW this was posted yesterday..

By the way, I'm about to send off new K15 reference populations to GEDmatch, including South Italians, so it's likely your results will shift significantly once they're up.

Atlantic Islander
10-10-2013, 11:30 PM
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MfA_
10-10-2013, 11:32 PM
Why do I have under Oracle ( 1 62.8% Tuscan + 37.2% Irish @ 5.03 ) and under oracle4 (1 50% Southeast_English +50% Tuscan @ 7.105) The difference between those 2 are at least 12.8 %.
Why is there such a difference between those two?

Oracle-4 removes values below threshold.. In my case values below 0.8% is deleted and new Oracle is calculated..

Jackson
10-10-2013, 11:36 PM
Looks French to me judging by the numbers, not as Mediterranean as typical southern Europeans but not as northern as most Germans, NW French and British etc, and the oracle bears that out of course.

Maybe southern or south-east France perhaps?

(Now you'll tell me they are Portuguese! :P)

Atlantic Islander
10-10-2013, 11:37 PM
(Now you'll tell me they are Portuguese! :P)

Yes, it's a person with all four grandparents from the Azores.

Jackson
10-10-2013, 11:39 PM
Yes, it's an person with all four grandparents from the Azores.

Hmm that's interesting, i saw on PCAs you are slightly more northern than the average too i think? I wonder if that is coincidence or it is something to do with the separate history?

Atlantic Islander
10-11-2013, 12:15 AM
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Black Wolf
10-11-2013, 04:44 PM
I have 20 Kurdish GEDmatch IDs and I am the closest one to the reference Kurdish sample with 3.64 distance.

Pct. Calc. Option 1
1 Kurdish 70.13%
2 Armenian 13.24%
3 Cyprian 7.61%
4 Abhkasian 6.16%
5 Brahui 2.73%
6 Assyrian 0.07%
7 Sardinian 0.03%
8 Makrani 0.02%
9 Balochi 0.01%
10 Turkish 0.00%

Pct. Calc. Option 2
1 Kurdish 69.93%
2 Armenian 16.36%
3 Sardinian 4.74%
4 Abhkasian 3.21%
5 Iranian 2.44%
6 Makrani 2.21%
7 Brahui 1.11%
8 Turkish 0.00%
9 Cyprian 0.00%
10 Balochi 0.00%

http://abload.de/img/m1337_5b1107eiuxh.png

http://abload.de/img/desktop_2013_10_11_0221u5g.png

BTW this was posted yesterday..


Has anyone's results shifted yet?

7eleven
10-11-2013, 04:47 PM
Has anyone's results shifted yet?

What do you mean?

WOOHP
10-11-2013, 05:11 PM
SW French? Since when? Or is it just Basque?

Graham
10-11-2013, 05:59 PM
SW French? Since when? Or is it just Basque?

I have one code from East France, if you are interested. Since I know you are into France. Closest country matches. Another good Oracle. This is my favourite run now.Oracle
1 French 9.29
2 German 10.82
3 Southwest_English 11.5
4 Dutch 11.51
5 Southeast_English 12.25
6 Orcadian 13.29
7 Danish 13.37
8 Norwegian 13.45
9 Swedish 14.08
10 Irish 14.16
11 Spanish_Galicia 14.16
12 West_Scottish 14.31
13 Hungarian 15.16
14 Portuguese 15.37
15 Spanish_Cataluna 15.4
16 North_Swedish 15.78
17 Serbian 16.32
18 Austrian 16.52
19 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 16.94
20 Spanish_Extremadura 17.39

MfA_
10-11-2013, 06:02 PM
Has anyone's results shifted yet?

nope, still the same :/


What do you mean?

He's refering to this



BTW this was posted yesterday..

By the way, I'm about to send off new K15 reference populations to GEDmatch, including South Italians, so it's likely your results will shift significantly once they're up.

WOOHP
10-11-2013, 06:09 PM
I have one code from East France, if you are interested. Since I know you are into France. Closest country matches. Another good Oracle. This is my favourite run now.Oracle
1 French 9.29
2 German 10.82
3 Southwest_English 11.5
4 Dutch 11.51
5 Southeast_English 12.25
6 Orcadian 13.29
7 Danish 13.37
8 Norwegian 13.45
9 Swedish 14.08
10 Irish 14.16
11 Spanish_Galicia 14.16
12 West_Scottish 14.31
13 Hungarian 15.16
14 Portuguese 15.37
15 Spanish_Cataluna 15.4
16 North_Swedish 15.78
17 Serbian 16.32
18 Austrian 16.52
19 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 16.94
20 Spanish_Extremadura 17.39
Thanks
I have one too, Jackson sent this to me. The same guy?

East French


SOUTH_BALTIC 12.36%
EAST_EURO 8.07%
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 25.87%
ATLANTIC 21.52%
WEST_MED 15.69%
EAST_MED 13.70%
WEST_ASIAN 2.35%
MIDDLE_EASTERN 0.18%
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN 0.26%
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN -

Oracle
1 FR 7.53
2 West_&_Central_German 9.35
3 AT 9.7
4 NL 10.13
5 English 10.86
6 Cornish 11.58
7 PT 11.9
8 North_Italian 13.33
9 ES 13.39
10 DK 13.47

Geni
10-11-2013, 06:32 PM
Geni EUtest V2 K15 results:


Admix Results (sorted):

Population Percent
1 East_Med 23.65
2 North_Sea 18.17
3 West_Med 16.89
4 Atlantic 14.32
5 West_Asian 12.12
6 Baltic 8.35
7 Eastern_Euro 3.25
8 Red_Sea 2.45
9 Amerindian 0.57
10 Oceanian 0.15
11 Southeast_Asian 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tuscan 7.71
2 Greek 9.16
3 Ashkenazi 10.38
4 Bulgarian 12.06
5 North_Italian 12.11
6 Romanian 12.89
7 Serbian 15.26
8 Sephardic_Jewish 16.66
9 Portuguese 18.54
10 Spanish_Galicia 18.79
11 Spanish_Extremadura 19.03
12 Spanish_Murcia 19.36
13 Spanish_Cataluna 19.81
14 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 20.23
15 Spanish_Andalucia 20.42
16 French 20.66
17 Spanish_Valencia 21.25
18 Hungarian 21.74
19 Austrian 21.95
20 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 22.28

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.8% Cyprian + 44.2% Southwest_English @ 5.03
2 52.5% French + 47.5% Cyprian @ 5.09
3 56.5% Cyprian + 43.5% Dutch @ 5.28
4 53.3% Cyprian + 46.7% German @ 5.39
5 56.5% Cyprian + 43.5% Southeast_English @ 5.64
6 58.6% Cyprian + 41.4% Norwegian @ 5.64
7 58.6% Cyprian + 41.4% Orcadian @ 5.64
8 58.6% Cyprian + 41.4% Swedish @ 5.93
9 58% Cyprian + 42% Irish @ 6.01
10 59.8% French + 40.2% Lebanese_Christian @ 6.04
11 58.5% Cyprian + 41.5% West_Scottish @ 6.13
12 57.8% Cyprian + 42.2% Danish @ 6.16
13 70.5% Ashkenazi + 29.5% French @ 6.31
14 61.9% Spanish_Galicia + 38.1% Assyrian @ 6.35
15 77.1% Ashkenazi + 22.9% Southwest_English @ 6.36
16 60.1% French + 39.9% Lebanese_Druze @ 6.37
17 73.6% North_Italian + 26.4% Assyrian @ 6.37
18 77.8% Ashkenazi + 22.2% Southeast_English @ 6.52
19 55.8% Ashkenazi + 44.2% North_Italian @ 6.53
20 66.4% Tuscan + 33.6% Ashkenazi @ 6.54

Sehnsucht
10-12-2013, 01:23 AM
Me



Population
North_Sea 38.10%
Atlantic 24.41%
Baltic 10.63%
Eastern_Euro 7.79%
West_Med 10.26%
West_Asian 2.65%
East_Med 2.19%
Red_Sea 0.90%
South_Asian 0.75%
Southeast_Asian 0.94%
Siberian 0.80%
Amerindian 0.57%
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Dutch 3.7
2 Orcadian 4.53
3 Southwest_English 5.01
4 Southeast_English 5.61
5 Norwegian 5.77
6 Danish 5.85
7 West_Scottish 6.38
8 Irish 6.51
9 German 6.62
10 Swedish 7.25
11 North_Swedish 10.48
12 French 11.11
13 Southwest_Finnish 16.21
14 Hungarian 17.06
15 Austrian 17.9
16 Spanish_Galicia 18.49
17 Finnish 18.83
18 Spanish_Cataluna 19.16
19 Portuguese 19.91
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 20.41

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 92.4% Orcadian + 7.6% Sardinian @ 2.38
2 83.1% Orcadian + 16.9% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.59
3 75.1% Orcadian + 24.9% French @ 2.8
4 87.3% Orcadian + 12.7% North_Italian @ 2.84
5 84.9% Orcadian + 15.1% Portuguese @ 2.88
6 78.7% Norwegian + 21.3% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.99
7 68.5% Norwegian + 31.5% French @ 3.01
8 89.4% Orcadian + 10.6% Tuscan @ 3.01
9 80.1% Norwegian + 19.9% Portuguese @ 3.09
10 55.3% Southwest_English + 44.7% Norwegian @ 3.13
11 86.7% Orcadian + 13.3% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.13
12 85.3% Orcadian + 14.7% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.13
13 86.1% Orcadian + 13.9% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.13
14 81.6% Norwegian + 18.4% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.16
15 80.7% Norwegian + 19.3% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.16
16 81.6% Norwegian + 18.4% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.16
17 79.7% Norwegian + 20.3% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.17
18 93.6% Orcadian + 6.4% Moroccan @ 3.18
19 91.3% Orcadian + 8.7% Greek @ 3.21
20 81.9% Norwegian + 18.1% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.22

Sehnsucht
10-12-2013, 01:27 AM
My Mother

Population
North_Sea 33.66%
Atlantic 24.79%
Baltic 11.78%
Eastern_Euro 7.93%
West_Med 9.26%
West_Asian 6.40%
East_Med 3.58%
Red_Sea 0.45%
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian 0.80%
Siberian 1.31%
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 German 3.07
2 Dutch 4.96
3 Southwest_English 5.62
4 Southeast_English 5.92
5 Danish 6.68
6 Irish 7
7 West_Scottish 7.46
8 Orcadian 7.69
9 Norwegian 8.16
10 Swedish 8.67
11 French 9.12
12 North_Swedish 10.9
13 Hungarian 13.73
14 Austrian 13.84
15 Southwest_Finnish 14.67
16 Serbian 17.11
17 Spanish_Galicia 17.11
18 Spanish_Cataluna 17.19
19 Finnish 17.41
20 Portuguese 18.23

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76.3% Orcadian + 23.7% Bulgarian @ 2.69
2 91.2% Dutch + 8.8% Turkish @ 2.73
3 98.5% German + 1.5% Oroqen @ 2.75
4 73.8% Orcadian + 26.2% Romanian @ 2.76
5 98.3% German + 1.7% Buryat @ 2.77
6 98.1% German + 1.9% Mongolian @ 2.78
7 98.5% German + 1.5% Yakut @ 2.79
8 98.7% German + 1.3% Evens @ 2.79
9 98.6% German + 1.4% Evenki @ 2.8
10 98.5% German + 1.5% Hezhen @ 2.8
11 98.5% German + 1.5% Xibo @ 2.81
12 98.6% German + 1.4% Dolgan @ 2.82
13 98.4% German + 1.6% Tuvinian @ 2.84
14 86.1% German + 13.9% Orcadian @ 2.85
15 92.5% Dutch + 7.5% Armenian @ 2.85
16 98.3% German + 1.7% Altaian @ 2.85
17 98.6% German + 1.4% Koryak @ 2.86
18 98.7% German + 1.3% Japanese @ 2.86
19 98.6% German + 1.4% Tu @ 2.86
20 98.8% German + 1.2% Naxi @ 2.88

Jackson
10-12-2013, 01:28 AM
Me



Population
North_Sea 38.10%
Atlantic 24.41%
Baltic 10.63%
Eastern_Euro 7.79%
West_Med 10.26%
West_Asian 2.65%
East_Med 2.19%
Red_Sea 0.90%
South_Asian 0.75%
Southeast_Asian 0.94%
Siberian 0.80%
Amerindian 0.57%
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Dutch 3.7
2 Orcadian 4.53
3 Southwest_English 5.01
4 Southeast_English 5.61
5 Norwegian 5.77
6 Danish 5.85
7 West_Scottish 6.38
8 Irish 6.51
9 German 6.62
10 Swedish 7.25
11 North_Swedish 10.48
12 French 11.11
13 Southwest_Finnish 16.21
14 Hungarian 17.06
15 Austrian 17.9
16 Spanish_Galicia 18.49
17 Finnish 18.83
18 Spanish_Cataluna 19.16
19 Portuguese 19.91
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 20.41

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 92.4% Orcadian + 7.6% Sardinian @ 2.38
2 83.1% Orcadian + 16.9% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.59
3 75.1% Orcadian + 24.9% French @ 2.8
4 87.3% Orcadian + 12.7% North_Italian @ 2.84
5 84.9% Orcadian + 15.1% Portuguese @ 2.88
6 78.7% Norwegian + 21.3% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.99
7 68.5% Norwegian + 31.5% French @ 3.01
8 89.4% Orcadian + 10.6% Tuscan @ 3.01
9 80.1% Norwegian + 19.9% Portuguese @ 3.09
10 55.3% Southwest_English + 44.7% Norwegian @ 3.13
11 86.7% Orcadian + 13.3% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.13
12 85.3% Orcadian + 14.7% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.13
13 86.1% Orcadian + 13.9% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.13
14 81.6% Norwegian + 18.4% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.16
15 80.7% Norwegian + 19.3% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.16
16 81.6% Norwegian + 18.4% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.16
17 79.7% Norwegian + 20.3% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.17
18 93.6% Orcadian + 6.4% Moroccan @ 3.18
19 91.3% Orcadian + 8.7% Greek @ 3.21
20 81.9% Norwegian + 18.1% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.22

What do you get for the Oracle X Options 1 and 2? That might be interesting with this calculator.

Sehnsucht
10-12-2013, 01:30 AM
Maternal Aunt


Population
North_Sea 33.57%
Atlantic 25.60%
Baltic 11.64%
Eastern_Euro 6.90%
West_Med 9.07%
West_Asian 6.18%
East_Med 4.06%
Red_Sea 0.89%
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian 0.94%
Siberian 0.68%
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.40%
Sub-Saharan 0.09%


# Population (source) Distance
1 German 3.32
2 Southwest_English 5.28
3 Dutch 5.31
4 Southeast_English 5.47
5 Danish 6.53
6 Irish 6.56
7 West_Scottish 7.14
8 Orcadian 7.77
9 Norwegian 8.7
10 French 8.71
11 Swedish 9.18
12 North_Swedish 11.74
13 Austrian 14.09
14 Hungarian 14.25
15 Southwest_Finnish 15.49
16 Spanish_Cataluna 16.69
17 Spanish_Galicia 16.71
18 Serbian 17.38
19 Portuguese 17.76
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 17.85

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76% German + 24% Southwest_English @ 3.02
2 76.5% Orcadian + 23.5% Bulgarian @ 3.04
3 78.4% German + 21.6% Southeast_English @ 3.07
4 85.8% German + 14.2% Orcadian @ 3.1
5 88.5% German + 11.5% French @ 3.14
6 76% West_Scottish + 24% Romanian @ 3.15
7 80.6% Orcadian + 19.4% Greek @ 3.17
8 98.8% German + 1.2% Xibo @ 3.17
9 98.8% German + 1.2% Hezhen @ 3.17
10 98.9% German + 1.1% Japanese @ 3.17
11 98.8% German + 1.2% Tu @ 3.17
12 98.9% German + 1.1% Naxi @ 3.17
13 98.9% German + 1.1% Yizu @ 3.18
14 85.9% German + 14.1% Irish @ 3.18
15 99% German + 1% Tujia @ 3.18
16 99.1% German + 0.9% She @ 3.18
17 99.1% German + 0.9% Miaozu @ 3.18
18 87.4% German + 12.6% West_Scottish @ 3.18
19 99.1% German + 0.9% Lahu @ 3.19
20 99.1% German + 0.9% Vietnamese @ 3.2

Sehnsucht
10-12-2013, 01:34 AM
Maternal Grandmother


Population
North_Sea 32.75%
Atlantic 30.84%
Baltic 9.56%
Eastern_Euro 7.05%
West_Med 8.21%
West_Asian 7.34%
East_Med 1.93%
Red_Sea 0.46%
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian 0.50%
Siberian 0.51%
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.35%
Sub-Saharan 0.50%


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southeast_English 4.61
2 Southwest_English 5.15
3 Irish 5.22
4 West_Scottish 5.92
5 Danish 6.14
6 German 6.23
7 Dutch 7.58
8 Orcadian 8.73
9 French 10.23
10 Norwegian 11.16
11 Swedish 12.05
12 North_Swedish 14.43
13 Austrian 16.11
14 Spanish_Cataluna 16.94
15 Southwest_Finnish 17.64
16 Hungarian 17.88
17 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 18.04
18 Spanish_Galicia 18.05
19 Portuguese 18.63
20 Spanish_Murcia 19.3

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 93.4% Southeast_English + 6.6% North_Ossetian @ 2.98
2 93.1% Irish + 6.9% Abhkasian @ 3.05
3 92.8% Irish + 7.2% Georgian @ 3.1
4 93.3% Southeast_English + 6.7% Balkar @ 3.1
5 94.4% Southeast_English + 5.6% Abhkasian @ 3.12
6 91.9% Irish + 8.1% Balkar @ 3.12
7 92.3% Irish + 7.7% North_Ossetian @ 3.14
8 93.6% Southeast_English + 6.4% Adygei @ 3.15
9 94.2% Southeast_English + 5.8% Georgian @ 3.19
10 93.3% Southeast_English + 6.7% Chechen @ 3.21
11 92.2% Irish + 7.8% Adygei @ 3.21
12 92.1% Irish + 7.9% Chechen @ 3.4
13 91.9% Irish + 8.1% Kumyk @ 3.41
14 93.5% Southeast_English + 6.5% Kumyk @ 3.41
15 92% Irish + 8% Turkish @ 3.5
16 93.2% Southeast_English + 6.8% Nogay @ 3.5
17 93.8% Southeast_English + 6.2% Lezgin @ 3.51
18 93.2% Irish + 6.8% Armenian @ 3.56
19 92.4% West_Scottish + 7.6% Abhkasian @ 3.57
20 91.5% Irish + 8.5% Nogay @ 3.6

Sehnsucht
10-12-2013, 02:42 AM
What do you get for the Oracle X Options 1 and 2? That might be interesting with this calculator.


Pct. Calc. Option 1

1 Orcadian 71.66%
2 Swedish 19.75%
3 Sardinian 7.51%
4 Tu 0.64%
5 Tibeto-Burman_Burmese 0.43%
6 Norwegian 0.01%
7 French 0.00%
8 Ukrainian_West 0.00%
9 Moroccan 0.00%
10 Spanish_Galicia 0.00%


Pct. Calc. Option 2

1 Orcadian 78.98%
2 Sardinian 8.71%
3 Estonian 5.79%
4 Swedish 3.13%
5 Norwegian 2.15%
6 Tibeto-Burman_Burmese 1.10%
7 Ukrainian_West 0.11%
8 Dutch 0.02%
9 Hungarian 0.00%
10 Moroccan 0.00%

Argang
10-12-2013, 08:12 AM
Population averages and Fst distances are up: http://bga101.blogspot.fi/2013/10/eurogenes-k15-now-at-gedmatch.html

Atlantic, North Sea, Baltic and East European are closest to each other.

After that, the most "european" components based on Fst are, from closest to most distant:
East Med, West Asian, West Med, Middle Eastern (aka Red Sea), South Asian, Siberian, Northeast African, Southeast Asian, Amerindian, Sub-Saharan, Oceanian.

Graham
10-12-2013, 08:47 AM
Variable plots.
http://imageshack.us/a/img707/8591/2z6c.png

Equilibrium
10-12-2013, 08:54 AM
Variable plots.
http://imageshack.us/a/img707/8591/2z6c.png

Did you do made that, Graham? Some positions seem off, like Sub-Saharan?

MfA_
10-12-2013, 08:54 AM
Population averages and Fst distances are up: http://bga101.blogspot.fi/2013/10/eurogenes-k15-now-at-gedmatch.html

Atlantic, North Sea, Baltic and East European are closest to each other.

After that, the most "european" components based on Fst are, from closest to most distant:
East Med, West Asian, West Med, Middle Eastern, South Asian, Siberian, Northeast African, Southeast Asian, Amerindian, Sub-Saharan, Oceanian.

Thanks, I did some cosmetics for easier reading..

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aqr2nbGXpVFndEN4eEJfUWQxTHp3Snh4M0FGNVJhL Wc&usp=drive_web#gid=0

Graham
10-12-2013, 08:56 AM
Country locations, Click to zoom in.

http://imageshack.us/a/img59/3827/gy16.png

Graham
10-12-2013, 08:57 AM
Did you do made that, Graham? Some positions seem off, like Sub-Saharan?

It is because the test is made especially for Europeans. So that is the maps priority.

Graham
10-12-2013, 09:06 AM
By this weekend. I'll cut out most populations except Europeans & areas around Europe & add us into a hopefully tidy plot map.

So of you want in add your results on this thread.

Prince Carlo
10-12-2013, 09:51 AM
^^ Eurogenes plots become more and more ludicrous with the time. They started by copying Dough McDonald plots and soon they will show Africans in the European plot. Ludicrous.

MfA_
10-12-2013, 09:56 AM
West Asia overall

http://abload.de/img/westasia_mfa_xiuzx.png

Maleficent
10-12-2013, 10:05 AM
West Asia overall

http://abload.de/img/westasia_mfa_xiuzx.png

Northern West Asia, you mean. :P

And nice chart, by the way. :)

Alessio
10-12-2013, 10:07 AM
Mine changed from:

1 50% Scottish +50% South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 5.018
2 50% Cornish +50% South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 5.297
3 50% IE +50% South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 5.311

to:

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Southeast_English +50% Tuscan @ 7.105
2 50% Southwest_English +50% Tuscan @ 7.438
3 50% Irish +50% Tuscan @ 7.448

And from:

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 North_Italian @ 10.247
2 Tuscan @ 11.519
3 PT @ 13.627
4 FR @ 13.873
5 ES @ 15.133
6 Serbian @ 16.937
7 AT @ 17.357
8 RO @ 17.377
9 West_&_Central_German @ 18.880
10 NL @ 20.122
78 iterations.

to:

Using 1 population approximation:
1 North_Italian @ 11.432
2 Spanish_Cataluna @ 12.179
3 French @ 12.417
4 Spanish_Murcia @ 12.550
5 Spanish_Extremadura @ 12.700
6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 12.862
7 Portuguese @ 12.879
8 Spanish_Galicia @ 13.807
9 Tuscan @ 14.414
10 Spanish_Valencia @ 14.427
165 iterations.




nope, still the same :/



He's refering to this

Graham
10-12-2013, 10:32 AM
^^ Eurogenes plots become more and more ludicrous with the time. They started by copying Dough McDonald plots and soon they will show Africans in the European plot. Ludicrous.

You don't understand how it works. Sometimes you can't put them onto the map, because they overlap on a one dimensional plot, when they are different.

You take or put in populations, effects how the map works.

For example, I took out some here.

http://imageshack.us/a/img820/5880/uuhw.jpg

Prince Carlo
10-12-2013, 11:09 AM
You don't understand how it works. Sometimes you can't put them onto the map, because they overlap on a one dimensional plot, when they are different.

Whatever. I still see plots from peer reviewed studies as much more reliable.

StarDS9
10-12-2013, 11:41 AM
West Asia overall

http://abload.de/img/westasia_mfa_xiuzx.png

Thanks for that table.

I have just checked that North Caucasians do not have very high Atlantic nor do Kurds and Iranians, so why is mine at over 8%?

Jackson
10-12-2013, 11:47 AM
By this weekend. I'll cut out most populations except Europeans & areas around Europe & add us into a hopefully tidy plot map.

So of you want in add your results on this thread.

Will you include all the earliest posts on the thread too?

Graham
10-12-2013, 11:54 AM
Will you include all the earliest posts on the thread too?

Yeah

MfA_
10-12-2013, 11:54 AM
Thanks for that table.

I have just checked that North Caucasians do not have very high Atlantic nor do Kurds and Iranians, so why is mine at over 8%?

Some components are ridiculously close..
Some of the North Sea component you have has eaten by Atlantic hence elevated Atlantic results.. You also score 0 North Sea but 8% Atlantic.. I believe some components shouldn't be taken separately but as a whole (at least for non-Europeans).. North Sea+Atlantic and Baltic+East European e.g.

Argang
10-12-2013, 12:04 PM
I believe some components shouldn't be taken separately but as a whole(at least for non-europeans).. North Sea+Atlantic and Baltic+East European e.g.

It's likely that all of the "european" components should be taken as a whole for non-europeans. The Fst distances in this test suggest that East European and Baltic are both a little bit closer to Atlantic and North Sea than to each other.

Jackson
10-12-2013, 12:28 PM
My family versus the average (i'll use South-east English):

Component Average (SE English)/Me/Father/Grandfather/Grandmother/Mother/Aunt
North_Sea35.52/34.34/37.92/37.7/36.95/31.18/34.67
Atlantic29.86/24.73/25.18/25.81/29.05/23.94/24.37
Baltic9.89/11.82/12.04/13.72/9.14/14.2/12.6
Eastern_Euro8.36/8.91/8.41/8.22/8.17/7.43/7.27
West_Med8.77/8.52/9.36/7.26/11.56/10.32/12
West_Asian3.35/3.67/0.25/2.22/2.63/8.25/4.34
East_Med2.5/4.31/4.38/4.19/0.05/2.42/2.01
Red_Sea0.33/1.7/1.35/0/1.27/0/0
South_Asian0.58/0.89/0.68/0.69/0/1.25/1.8
Southeast_Asian0.03/0/0/0/1.18/0/0
Siberian0.05/0/0/0.19/0/0/0
Amerindian0.35/0.13/0.44/0/0/0/0.64
Oceanian0.31/0.41/0/0 /0/0.48/0.31
Northeast_African0.06/0.01/0/0/0/0/0
Sub-Saharan0.03/0.56/0/0/0/0.54/0

Jackson
10-12-2013, 12:30 PM
It's likely that all of the "european" components should be taken as a whole for non-europeans. The Fst distances in this test suggest that East European and Baltic are both a little bit closer to Atlantic and North Sea than to each other.

That is an interesting thing for those populations that are high in both Baltic and East Euro..

MfA_
10-12-2013, 01:03 PM
Dendrogram based on Fst distances and Europe-West Asia MDS analyses respectively.

http://abload.de/img/k15_mfa_eutestjibre.png

Eastern Euro, Baltic, North Sea, Atlantic are actually same components from the beginning but different % of Neolithic influences.. While West Med is ended up clustering with West Asia..

http://abload.de/img/mds_mfa_eutest0gzcn.png

Black Wolf
10-12-2013, 01:20 PM
Me



Population
North_Sea 38.10%
Atlantic 24.41%
Baltic 10.63%
Eastern_Euro 7.79%
West_Med 10.26%
West_Asian 2.65%
East_Med 2.19%
Red_Sea 0.90%
South_Asian 0.75%
Southeast_Asian 0.94%
Siberian 0.80%
Amerindian 0.57%
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Dutch 3.7
2 Orcadian 4.53
3 Southwest_English 5.01
4 Southeast_English 5.61
5 Norwegian 5.77
6 Danish 5.85
7 West_Scottish 6.38
8 Irish 6.51
9 German 6.62
10 Swedish 7.25
11 North_Swedish 10.48
12 French 11.11
13 Southwest_Finnish 16.21
14 Hungarian 17.06
15 Austrian 17.9
16 Spanish_Galicia 18.49
17 Finnish 18.83
18 Spanish_Cataluna 19.16
19 Portuguese 19.91
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 20.41

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 92.4% Orcadian + 7.6% Sardinian @ 2.38
2 83.1% Orcadian + 16.9% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.59
3 75.1% Orcadian + 24.9% French @ 2.8
4 87.3% Orcadian + 12.7% North_Italian @ 2.84
5 84.9% Orcadian + 15.1% Portuguese @ 2.88
6 78.7% Norwegian + 21.3% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.99
7 68.5% Norwegian + 31.5% French @ 3.01
8 89.4% Orcadian + 10.6% Tuscan @ 3.01
9 80.1% Norwegian + 19.9% Portuguese @ 3.09
10 55.3% Southwest_English + 44.7% Norwegian @ 3.13
11 86.7% Orcadian + 13.3% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.13
12 85.3% Orcadian + 14.7% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.13
13 86.1% Orcadian + 13.9% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.13
14 81.6% Norwegian + 18.4% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.16
15 80.7% Norwegian + 19.3% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.16
16 81.6% Norwegian + 18.4% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.16
17 79.7% Norwegian + 20.3% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.17
18 93.6% Orcadian + 6.4% Moroccan @ 3.18
19 91.3% Orcadian + 8.7% Greek @ 3.21
20 81.9% Norwegian + 18.1% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.22

Welcome to the North Sea autosomal DNA clan Tomato Tom! I am actually planning a raid tonight against some of the Atlantic and East Med folks if you care to join? :p

Black Wolf
10-12-2013, 01:55 PM
Thanks for that table.

I have just checked that North Caucasians do not have very high Atlantic nor do Kurds and Iranians, so why is mine at over 8%?

I would not worry about this very much to be honest. Sure in some cases it may happen a little bit but overall I don't think it is much of a problem. I actually asked Polako about this yesterday. Here is his reply to me below.

''No, the Atlantic won't be lumped into North Sea here, because it's a different methodology.''

Equilibrium
10-12-2013, 02:52 PM
I would not worry about this very much to be honest. Sure in some cases it may happen a little bit but overall I don't think it is much of a problem. I actually asked Polako about this yesterday. Here is his reply to me below.

''No, the Atlantic won't be lumped into North Sea here, because it's a different methodology.''

Well, that's interesting, because I also speculated that North_Sea is lumped into Atlantic in my case. I always score 0% North_Sea which is strange.

That probably means we are enemies now, North Sea barbarian! :mad: Our Pontic Facade highlands constitue a invulnerable stronghold against raiding invaders from the north! :cool:



http://imageshack.us/a/img849/3987/3w1c.png

Black Wolf
10-12-2013, 03:01 PM
Well, that's interesting, because I also speculated that North_Sea is lumped into Atlantic in my case. I always score 0% North_Sea which is strange.

That probably means we are enemies now, North Sea barbarian! :mad: Our Pontic Facade highlands constitue a invulnerable stronghold against raiding invaders from the north! :cool:



http://imageshack.us/a/img849/3987/3w1c.png

It probably varies among individual non-Europeans. There are probably a number of reasons why you could score more Atlantic than North Sea. Nothing to worry about really though I don't think.

Aye prepare yourself Southerner! The ravages that us Northmen will bring are just about to begin! :cool: :p

Tropico
10-12-2013, 03:14 PM
Mines taking forever to load and then it says it timed out. Is everyone trying to do it at this exact moment?

Tropico
10-12-2013, 03:23 PM
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 18.35
2 Atlantic 17.44
3 West_Med 16.68
4 Amerindian 16.11
5 Sub-Saharan 9.17
6 East_Med 6.96
7 Red_Sea 5.24
8 Eastern_Euro 2.56
9 West_Asian 2.43
10 Northeast_African 2.23
11 Siberian 1.41
12 Baltic 1.40


Only posted top 3 of each here :
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Spanish_Galicia @ 21.541
2 Portuguese @ 21.783
3 Spanish_Extremadura @ 22.214

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Mozabite_Berber +50% Orcadian @ 18.549
2 50% Mozabite_Berber +50% Southwest_English @ 18.655
3 50% Irish +50% Mozabite_Berber @ 18.712

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% French +25% Mozabite_Berber +25% North_Amerindian @ 9.880
2 50% French +25% Mayan +25% Mozabite_Berber @ 10.004
3 50% Southwest_English +25% Mozabite_Berber +25% North_Amerindian @ 10.165

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Mozabite_Berber + North_Amerindian + Southwest_English + Spanish_Galicia @ 9.283
2 Mozabite_Berber + North_Amerindian + Orcadian + Spanish_Cantabria @ 9.331
3 Mozabite_Berber + North_Amerindian + Southwest_English + Spanish_Cantabria @ 9.402

MfA_
10-12-2013, 04:27 PM
Further Investigation of the Eurogenes K15 (http://corduene.blogspot.com/2013/10/further-investigation-of-eurogenes-k15.html)

http://abload.de/img/eutest_mfa_corduenexnocv.png

Vogon Poet
10-12-2013, 05:05 PM
1 Atlantic 20.74
2 East_Med 18.31
3 West_Med 15.82
4 North_Sea 11.77
5 Baltic 11.1
6 West_Asian 11.07
7 Red_Sea 5.94
8 Eastern_Euro 5.03
9 Southeast_Asian 0.21
10 Oceanian 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tuscan 6.67
2 Greek 7.82
3 Bulgarian 8.54
4 North_Italian 9.55
5 Romanian 9.94
6 Ashkenazi 12.35
7 Serbian 12.5
8 Spanish_Extremadura 15.59
9 Spanish_Andalucia 15.84
10 Portuguese 16.01
11 Spanish_Murcia 16.07
12 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 16.45
13 Spanish_Galicia 16.64
14 Spanish_Cataluna 16.67
15 Spanish_Valencia 16.85
16 Austrian 17.72
17 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 17.79
18 Sephardic_Jewish 18.01
19 French 18.96
20 Spanish_Cantabria 19.56

Black Wolf
10-12-2013, 05:07 PM
By this weekend. I'll cut out most populations except Europeans & areas around Europe & add us into a hopefully tidy plot map.

So of you want in add your results on this thread.

Ahoy Graham do you mind if I post my results again just in case they have changed a bit? Also do you want just our ADMIXTURE component results or our Oracle results also?

Oneeye
10-12-2013, 05:15 PM
Oneeye's Oracle X:


Pct. Calc. Option 1

1 Orcadian 78.75%
2 Norwegian 10.09%
3 Lezgin 5.43%
4 Sardinian 3.91%
5 Armenian 0.98%
6 Mayan 0.75%
7 Chuvash 0.07%
8 Dutch 0.02%
9 Ashkenazi 0.00%
10 North_Swedish 0.00%



Pct. Calc. Option 2

0 Unable to determine 0.01%
1 Orcadian 74.04%
2 Norwegian 8.63%
3 Armenian 5.88%
4 Sardinian 2.67%
5 Chuvash 2.40%
6 West_Scottish 1.87%
7 Southwest_English 1.83%
8 French 1.55%
9 Mayan 1.11%
10 Lezgin 0.00%



Oneeye's Mother's Oracle X:



Pct. Calc. Option 1

1 Dutch 55.09%
2 Norwegian 33.96%
3 North_Swedish 3.96%
4 Chechen 3.88%
5 Lezgin 1.20%
6 Chuvash 0.64%
7 Mayan 0.51%
8 Estonian 0.38%
9 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator 0.37%
10 Serbian 0.01%


Pct. Calc. Option 2

1 Dutch 36.60%
2 Norwegian 34.38%
3 North_Swedish 9.37%
4 Orcadian 6.38%
5 Lezgin 6.28%
6 Erzya 4.79%
7 Spanish_Cantabria 2.09%
8 Portuguese 0.09%
9 Chuvash 0.01%
10 Abhkasian 0.00%




EDIT: North Swedish = Sami?

Jackson
10-12-2013, 05:26 PM
1 Atlantic 20.74
2 East_Med 18.31
3 West_Med 15.82
4 North_Sea 11.77
5 Baltic 11.1
6 West_Asian 11.07
7 Red_Sea 5.94
8 Eastern_Euro 5.03
9 Southeast_Asian 0.21
10 Oceanian 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tuscan 6.67
2 Greek 7.82
3 Bulgarian 8.54
4 North_Italian 9.55
5 Romanian 9.94
6 Ashkenazi 12.35
7 Serbian 12.5
8 Spanish_Extremadura 15.59
9 Spanish_Andalucia 15.84
10 Portuguese 16.01
11 Spanish_Murcia 16.07
12 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 16.45
13 Spanish_Galicia 16.64
14 Spanish_Cataluna 16.67
15 Spanish_Valencia 16.85
16 Austrian 17.72
17 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 17.79
18 Sephardic_Jewish 18.01
19 French 18.96
20 Spanish_Cantabria 19.56

Ah, so now we know Vogons are actually Tuscans!

Mortimer
10-12-2013, 05:28 PM
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 16.58
2 East_Med 14.08
3 South_Asian 13.51
4 West_Med 13.39
5 West_Asian 12.61
6 Baltic 10.91
7 Eastern_Euro 7.45
8 Atlantic 5.61
9 Red_Sea 2.93
10 Southeast_Asian 1.85
11 Oceanian 1.06


--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Romanian @ 17.823
2 Bulgarian @ 18.383
3 Serbian @ 19.717
4 Ashkenazi @ 20.879
5 Greek @ 20.905
6 Tuscan @ 23.050
7 Hungarian @ 24.190
8 North_Italian @ 25.130
9 Austrian @ 26.318
10 Tadjik @ 26.836
165 iterations.



Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Hungarian +50% Makrani @ 12.759
2 50% Makrani +50% Spanish_Galicia @ 12.918
3 50% Balochi +50% Spanish_Galicia @ 13.268
4 50% Brahui +50% Spanish_Galicia @ 13.366
5 50% French +50% Makrani @ 13.581
6 50% Brahui +50% Hungarian @ 13.810
7 50% Balochi +50% Hungarian @ 13.917
8 50% Makrani +50% Portuguese @ 13.937
9 50% Makrani +50% Serbian @ 13.999
10 50% North_Italian +50% Tadjik @ 14.043
13695 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Ashkenazi +25% Punjabi_Jat +25% Ukrainian_West @ 8.001
2 50% Ashkenazi +25% Punjabi_Jat +25% Ukrainian @ 8.043
3 50% Ashkenazi +25% Hungarian +25% Punjabi_Jat @ 8.121
4 50% Hungarian +25% Cyprian +25% Gujarati @ 8.202
5 50% Hungarian +25% Punjabi_Jat +25% Samaritan @ 8.253
6 50% Ashkenazi +25% Gujarati +25% Ukrainian_West @ 8.267
7 50% Ashkenazi +25% Gujarati +25% Ukrainian @ 8.284
8 50% Hungarian +25% Gujarati +25% Samaritan @ 8.319
9 50% Hungarian +25% Cyprian +25% Punjabi_Jat @ 8.354
10 50% Ashkenazi +25% Gujarati +25% Hungarian @ 8.418
952762 iterations.



Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Lebanese_Christian + Punjabi_Jat + Spanish_Galicia + Ukrainian @ 7.808
2 Punjabi_Jat + Samaritan + Spanish_Galicia + Ukrainian_West @ 7.809
3 Lebanese_Christian + Punjabi_Jat + Spanish_Galicia + Ukrainian_West @ 7.809
4 Punjabi_Jat + Samaritan + Spanish_Galicia + Ukrainian @ 7.823
5 Cyprian + Punjabi_Jat + Spanish_Galicia + Ukrainian_West @ 7.931
6 Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Punjabi_Jat + Ukrainian_West @ 8.001
7 Cyprian + Punjabi_Jat + Spanish_Galicia + Ukrainian @ 8.022
8 Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Punjabi_Jat + Ukrainian @ 8.043
9 Assyrian + Estonian + Punjabi_Jat + Sardinian @ 8.075
10 Punjabi_Jat + Spanish_Galicia + Syrian + Ukrainian_West @ 8.105
11 Punjabi_Jat + Spanish_Galicia + Syrian + Ukrainian @ 8.117
12 Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Hungarian + Punjabi_Jat @ 8.121
13 Ashkenazi + Punjabi_Jat + Tuscan + Ukrainian_West @ 8.124
14 Cyprian + Estonian + Sindhi + Spanish_Galicia @ 8.137
15 Cyprian + Sindhi + Spanish_Galicia + Ukrainian @ 8.140
16 Cyprian + Sindhi + Spanish_Galicia + Ukrainian_West @ 8.143
17 Estonian + Lebanese_Christian + Punjabi_Jat + Spanish_Galicia @ 8.146
18 French + Punjabi_Jat + Samaritan + Ukrainian_West @ 8.148
19 Estonian + Samaritan + Sindhi + Spanish_Galicia @ 8.149
20 Estonian + Punjabi_Jat + Samaritan + Spanish_Galicia @ 8.178

Sehnsucht
10-12-2013, 05:48 PM
Welcome to the North Sea autosomal DNA clan Tomato Tom! I am actually planning a raid tonight against some of the Atlantic and East Med folks if you care to join? :p


Let's do it! You're on!!

orangepulp
10-12-2013, 07:19 PM
Turkish Average--My results--My aunt--My grandmother

West_Asian 29.39--36.94--41.02--40.08
East_Med 28.8--30.83--31.22--29.41
West_Med 7.79--6.75--8.46--10.11
Atlantic 7.28--2.82--6.22--8.01
Red_Sea 5.62--3.5--4.48--4.23
South_Asian 4.36--2.29--4.07--0.74
Eastern_Euro 4.13--3.82--2.01--4.04
Siberian 3.28--3.81--0.39--2.31
North_Sea 3.25--5.04--0.00--0.00
Baltic 2.98--2.65--0.00--0.35
Southeast_Asian 2.02--1.21--0.00--0.00
Oceanian 0.42--0.11--0.21--0.71
Amerindian 0.32--0.00--0.37--0.00
Northeast_African 0.3--0.18--0.00--0.00
Sub-Saharan 0.03--0.07--0.00--0.00

orangepulp
10-12-2013, 07:26 PM
EUtest V2 K15 Oracle-x Population Fitting

My results:


Pct. Calc. Option 1

1 Armenian 80.06%
2 Lezgin 9.68%
3 North_Ossetian 4.99%
4 Dolgan 4.30%
5 Ukrainian_Northeast 0.97%
6 Greek 0.00%
7 Romanian 0.00%
8 Bulgarian 0.00%
9 Shors 0.00%
10 Nogay 0.00%

Pct. Calc. Option 2

1 Armenian 63.98%
2 Assyrian 8.48%
3 Nogay 8.36%
4 Chechen 7.76%
5 North_Ossetian 5.67%
6 Turkish 2.37%
7 Lebanese_Muslim 2.20%
8 Shors 1.05%
9 Cyprian 0.12%
10 Kumyk 0.00%


My aunts results:

Pct. Calc. Option 1

1 Armenian 35.03%
2 Abhkasian 31.74%
3 Cyprian 18.80%
4 Kurdish 14.05%
5 French_Basque 0.38%
6 Lebanese_Muslim 0.00%
7 Mozabite_Berber 0.00%
8 North_Ossetian 0.00%
9 Sephardic_Jewish 0.00%
10 Turkish 0.00%


Pct. Calc. Option 2

0 Unable to determine 0.01%
1 Armenian 53.52%
2 North_Ossetian 14.04%
3 Abhkasian 8.29%
4 French_Basque 6.36%
5 Turkish 4.51%
6 Kurdish 4.47%
7 Iranian 3.75%
8 Lebanese_Muslim 2.96%
9 Assyrian 2.09%
10 Syrian 0.00%

orangepulp
10-12-2013, 07:40 PM
My aunts husbands results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 30.65
2 Atlantic 30.39
3 Eastern_Euro 11.02
4 West_Med 9.4
5 Baltic 8.68
6 East_Med 4.17
7 West_Asian 2.78
8 Northeast_African 0.96
9 Oceanian 0.77
10 South_Asian 0.57
11 Sub-Saharan 0.33
12 Amerindian 0.19
13 Red_Sea 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southeast_English 5.26
2 Southwest_English 5.71
3 Danish 6.41
4 German 6.43
5 Irish 6.93
6 West_Scottish 7.23
7 Dutch 7.77
8 French 8.95
9 Orcadian 9.65
10 Norwegian 11.36
11 Swedish 12.56
12 North_Swedish 13.57
13 Austrian 14.3
14 Spanish_Cataluna 15.02
15 Southwest_Finnish 16.08
16 Spanish_Galicia 16.21
17 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 16.4
18 Hungarian 16.56
19 Portuguese 16.6
20 Spanish_Murcia 17.28

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76.2% Danish + 23.8% Spanish_Valencia @ 3
2 78.1% Danish + 21.9% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.04
3 76.6% Danish + 23.4% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.12
4 77.5% Danish + 22.5% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.29
5 76.1% Danish + 23.9% Southwest_French @ 3.34
6 75.6% Danish + 24.4% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.35
7 72.9% Danish + 27.1% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.43
8 76.1% Danish + 23.9% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.45
9 76.2% Danish + 23.8% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.5
10 75.1% Danish + 24.9% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.61
11 75.6% Danish + 24.4% Portuguese @ 3.72
12 74.5% West_Scottish + 25.5% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.83
13 76.6% West_Scottish + 23.4% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.83
14 80.2% Danish + 19.8% North_Italian @ 3.85
15 83.5% Southeast_English + 16.5% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.88
16 85% Southeast_English + 15% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.9
17 84% Southeast_English + 16% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.96
18 82.4% Danish + 17.6% French_Basque @ 3.97
19 75.2% West_Scottish + 24.8% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.02
20 89.9% Danish + 10.1% Sardinian @ 4.03

Quasimodem
10-12-2013, 07:40 PM
Admix Results (sorted):


<tbody>
#
Population
Percent


1
North_Sea
37.17


2
Atlantic
21.84


3
Baltic
13.38


4
West_Med
10.59


5
Eastern_Euro
9.86


6
West_Asian
4.16


7
East_Med
1.18


8
Northeast_African
0.7


9
South_Asian
0.6


10
Oceanian
0.53

</tbody>

Single Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Dutch
4.23


2
Norwegian
5.26


3
Swedish
5.89


4
German
6.12


5
Orcadian
6.93


6
Southwest_English
7.36


7
Danish
7.9


8
Southeast_English
8.07


9
North_Swedish
8.68


10
Irish
8.72


11
West_Scottish
8.76


12
French
12.24


13
Southwest_Finnish
14.02


14
Hungarian
14.48


15
Austrian
16.15


16
Finnish
16.37


17
Serbian
19.34


18
Spanish_Galicia
19.41


19
Polish
19.92


20
Ukrainian_West
20.16

</tbody>

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

90.1%
Swedish
+
9.9%
Sardinian
@
2.83


2

91.5%
Norwegian
+
8.5%
Sardinian
@
2.87


3

79.7%
Swedish
+
20.3%
Spanish_Galicia
@
3.3


4

82.5%
Norwegian
+
17.5%
Spanish_Galicia
@
3.34


5

86%
Norwegian
+
14%
North_Italian
@
3.42


6

71.1%
Swedish
+
28.9%
French
@
3.44


7

81.3%
Swedish
+
18.7%
Portuguese
@
3.49


8

84.1%
Norwegian
+
15.9%
Portuguese
@
3.52


9

75%
Norwegian
+
25%
French
@
3.53


10

83%
Swedish
+
17%
Spanish_Cantabria
@
3.59


11

88.3%
Norwegian
+
11.7%
Tuscan
@
3.63


12

81.3%
Swedish
+
18.7%
Spanish_Cataluna
@
3.7


13

84.3%
Norwegian
+
15.7%
Spanish_Cataluna
@
3.7


14

85.1%
Norwegian
+
14.9%
Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
@
3.72


15

83.2%
Swedish
+
16.8%
Spanish_Extremadura
@
3.74


16

86%
Norwegian
+
14%
Spanish_Cantabria
@
3.74


17

85.9%
Norwegian
+
14.1%
Spanish_Extremadura
@
3.75


18

87.6%
Norwegian
+
12.4%
Spanish_Andalucia
@
3.76


19

84.4%
Swedish
+
15.6%
North_Italian
@
3.77


20

89.9%
Norwegian
+
10.1%
Greek
@
3.81

</tbody>

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% German +50% Norwegian @ 4.610
2 50% Dutch +50% Norwegian @ 4.667
3 50% Dutch +50% Swedish @ 4.701
4 50% Dutch +50% Dutch @ 4.771
5 50% Southwest_English +50% Swedish @ 4.796
6 50% German +50% Swedish @ 4.910
7 50% Norwegian +50% Southwest_English @ 5.231
8 50% North_Swedish +50% Southwest_English @ 5.505
9 50% Dutch +50% German @ 5.622
10 50% Norwegian +50% Norwegian @ 5.704
13695 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Norwegian +25% French +25% Swedish @ 3.963
2 50% Swedish +25% French +25% Norwegian @ 3.968
3 50% Norwegian +25% French +25% Norwegian @ 4.086
4 50% Swedish +25% French +25% Swedish @ 4.100
5 50% Swedish +25% Dutch +25% French @ 4.235
6 50% Swedish +25% Norwegian +25% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.395
7 50% Norwegian +25% Dutch +25% German @ 4.428
8 50% Swedish +25% Spanish_Galicia +25% Swedish @ 4.431
9 50% Swedish +25% French +25% Orcadian @ 4.441
10 50% Dutch +25% Dutch +25% Swedish @ 4.461
320289 iterations.



Using 4 populations approximation:
1 French + Norwegian + Norwegian + Swedish @ 3.963
2 French + Norwegian + Swedish + Swedish @ 3.968
3 French + Norwegian + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 4.086
4 French + Swedish + Swedish + Swedish @ 4.100
5 Dutch + French + Swedish + Swedish @ 4.235
6 Dutch + French + Norwegian + Swedish @ 4.294
7 Norwegian + Spanish_Galicia + Swedish + Swedish @ 4.395
8 Dutch + German + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 4.428
9 Spanish_Galicia + Swedish + Swedish + Swedish @ 4.431
10 French + Orcadian + Swedish + Swedish @ 4.441
11 Dutch + German + Norwegian + Swedish @ 4.459
12 Dutch + Dutch + Dutch + Swedish @ 4.461
13 Dutch + French + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 4.469
14 Norwegian + Norwegian + Spanish_Galicia + Swedish @ 4.475
15 French + North_Swedish + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 4.531
16 Dutch + Southwest_English + Swedish + Swedish @ 4.531
17 German + Norwegian + Southwest_English + Swedish @ 4.549
18 Dutch + Dutch + German + Swedish @ 4.550
19 French + North_Swedish + Norwegian + Swedish @ 4.553
20 Dutch + Dutch + Dutch + Norwegian @ 4.561


Oracle X


Pct. Calc. Option 1


<tbody>
1
Norwegian
57.87%


2
Swedish
31.97%


3
Sardinian
8.01%


4
Chechen
1.64%


5
Abhkasian
0.46%


6
Balkar
0.05%


7
Ukrainian
0.00%


8
Dutch
0.00%


9
Ukrainian_West
0.00%


10
Southwest_English
0.00%



</tbody>

Pct. Calc. Option 2


<tbody>
0
Unable to determine
0.10%


1
Norwegian
48.01%


2
Dutch
29.85%


3
Swedish
9.42%


4
Ukrainian_West
4.62%


5
Sardinian
3.03%


6
Orcadian
1.58%


7
Abhkasian
1.36%


8
Ukrainian
1.09%


9
Southwest_English
0.72%


10
North_Swedish
0.21%



</tbody>

Black Wolf
10-12-2013, 07:46 PM
Let's do it! You're on!!

Alright and then on our way back from the East Med region we can make a stop in among the West Meds and do a bit more raiding there! Then back to Frisia to restock supplies. :D

Graham
10-12-2013, 08:13 PM
Ahoy Graham do you mind if I post my results again just in case they have changed a bit? Also do you want just our ADMIXTURE component results or our Oracle results also?
If you want, post your families, I'll stick it in. I'm tweaking the map. To make it better.


EDIT: North Swedish = Sami?

They are like West Finnish. Maybe with a little bit of Sami.

Mazik knows them best.

Black Wolf
10-12-2013, 08:17 PM
If you want, post your families, I'll stick it in. I'm tweaking the map. To make it better.



They are like West Finnish. Maybe with a little bit of Sami.

Mazik knows them best.


Okay so both ADMIXTURE component percentage results and Oracle results? Or just ADMIXTURE component percentage results?

Graham
10-12-2013, 08:19 PM
It is only Admix, but I'm sure we would like to see the Oracle. It' the most accurate Oracle to date. :)

It benefits you New Worlders, to have a good Oracle. But it has to work with us over here first.

Jackson
10-12-2013, 08:20 PM
Looking forward to seeing this map. :)

Graham
10-12-2013, 08:22 PM
Neanderthal (F999902)
81.44% -- Sub-Saharan
16.84% -- Northeast_African
01.68% -- Oceanian
Oracle
1 Biaka_Pygmy 2.88
2 Bantu_S.E. 6.75
3 Bantu_S.W. 9.28
4 Luhya 10.36
5 Bantu_N.E. 11.53 Denisovian (F999903)
83.61 -- Sub-Saharan
14.80 -- Northeast_African
01.59 -- Oceanian
Oracle
1 Bantu_S.E. 3.66
2 Biaka_Pygmy 5.38
3 Bantu_S.W. 5.98
4 Mandenka 11.94
5 Luhya 13.68

Jackson
10-12-2013, 08:24 PM
Neanderthal (F999902)
81.44% -- Sub-Saharan
16.84% -- Northeast_African
01.68% -- Oceanian
Oracle
1 Biaka_Pygmy 2.88
2 Bantu_S.E. 6.75
3 Bantu_S.W. 9.28
4 Luhya 10.36
5 Bantu_N.E. 11.53 Denisovian (F999903)
83.61 -- Sub-Saharan
14.80 -- Northeast_African
01.59 -- Oceanian
Oracle
1 Bantu_S.E. 3.66
2 Biaka_Pygmy 5.38
3 Bantu_S.W. 5.98
4 Mandenka 11.94
5 Luhya 13.68

You have Neanderthal/Denisovan genomes? :O

Interesting results...

Graham
10-12-2013, 08:26 PM
You have Neanderthal/Denisovan genomes? :O

Interesting results...

It was posted on a another thread a while ago.
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?90424-GEDmatch-Neandertal-amp-Denisov-Compare

Jackson
10-12-2013, 08:31 PM
It was posted on a another thread a while ago.
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?90424-GEDmatch-Neandertal-amp-Denisov-Compare

I think i remember this from a while back, but i dunno.

Philo
10-12-2013, 08:35 PM
Population
East_Med 30.29%
West_Asian 14.92%
North_Sea 14.59%
West_Med 14.42%
Red_Sea 8.96%
Atlantic 7.13%
Baltic 3.49%
Eastern_Euro 2.55%
Northeast_African 1.12%
Siberian 0.99%
Southeast_Asian 0.77%
Oceanian 0.65%
Sub-Saharan 0.12%
Amerindian -
South_Asian -


Thanks, I did some cosmetics for easier reading..

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aqr2nbGXpVFndEN4eEJfUWQxTHp3Snh4M0FGNVJhL Wc&usp=drive_web#gid=0

Thanks.

Interesting, my results are somewhat different from average. I have more North Sea (6% more than even Greeks) and East Med but lest Eastern Euro, Atlantic and Baltic..

Quasimodem
10-12-2013, 08:35 PM
You have Neanderthal/Denisovan genomes? :O


Yeah, his momma and his sister! xD

Jackson
10-12-2013, 08:37 PM
Yeah, his momma and his sister! xD

Haha

I think they must have removed that from GEDmatch, cannot find the utility at least.

Tropico
10-12-2013, 08:50 PM
Itd be cool to see both New World and Old World on the same graph to see where alot of us plot in relation.

orangepulp
10-12-2013, 08:52 PM
By this weekend. I'll cut out most populations except Europeans & areas around Europe & add us into a hopefully tidy plot map.

So of you want in add your results on this thread.
If you will add West Asians to the plots can you add the following:

Hemshin 1:

1 West_Asian 45.24
2 East_Med 32.73
3 West_Med 7.87
4 Red_Sea 4.77
5 North_Sea 4.08
6 Atlantic 3.59
7 South_Asian 1.73


Hemshin 2

1 West_Asian 46.47
2 East_Med 36.02
3 West_Med 6.31
4 Red_Sea 4.43
5 Baltic 4.13
6 Atlantic 2.64

Rize Hemshin:

1 West_Asian 46.15
2 East_Med 36.14
3 West_Med 5.8
4 Red_Sea 4.24
5 Baltic 3.22
6 North_Sea 2.34
7 Eastern_Euro 1.31
8 Oceanian 0.65
9 South_Asian 0.15

Armenian 1

1 East_Med 40.06
2 West_Asian 32.04
3 West_Med 11.31
4 Red_Sea 5.79
5 North_Sea 3.17
6 Atlantic 2.59
7 Eastern_Euro 2.04
8 South_Asian 1.72
9 Oceanian 0.53
10 Southeast_Asian 0.29
11 Baltic 0.28
12 Amerindian 0.18

Armenian 2:

1 West_Asian 38.32
2 East_Med 36.53
3 Red_Sea 6.71
4 West_Med 6.27
5 South_Asian 4.17
6 Atlantic 4.08
7 North_Sea 2.63
8 Eastern_Euro 0.93
9 Northeast_African 0.38

Vesuvian Sky
10-12-2013, 08:54 PM
Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tuscan 6.67
2 Greek 7.82
3 Bulgarian 8.54
4 North_Italian 9.55
5 Romanian 9.94
6 Ashkenazi 12.35
7 Serbian 12.5
8 Spanish_Extremadura 15.59
9 Spanish_Andalucia 15.84
10 Portuguese 16.01
11 Spanish_Murcia 16.07
12 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 16.45
13 Spanish_Galicia 16.64
14 Spanish_Cataluna 16.67
15 Spanish_Valencia 16.85
16 Austrian 17.72
17 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 17.79
18 Sephardic_Jewish 18.01
19 French 18.96
20 Spanish_Cantabria 19.56



# Population (source) Distance
1 Tuscan 6.71
2 Greek 10.23
3 North_Italian 10.88
4 Ashkenazi 11.32
5 Bulgarian 12.82
6 Romanian 13.43
7 Serbian 15.42
8 Sephardic_Jewish 16.85
9 Portuguese 16.99
10 Spanish_Extremadura 17.39
11 Spanish_Galicia 17.45
12 Spanish_Murcia 17.61
13 Spanish_Cataluna 18.23
14 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 18.58
15 Spanish_Andalucia 18.84
16 French 19.33
17 Spanish_Valencia 19.61
18 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 20.61
19 Austrian 21.56
20 Hungarian 21.77



hmmmm....:icon_ask:

2nd time I've had oracle results similar to someone else from the Balkans. Though similar to how my results compared to Raine's (:rip:), I differ on my actual percentages. Regardless, this seems to give alot of credence to this Cavalli-Sforza map from long ago:

http://files.myopera.com/ancientmacedonia/blog/DPhaarman_01.jpg

Tropico
10-12-2013, 08:57 PM
Wow my oracle seems pretty spot on:
1 Spanish_Galicia 43.35%
2 North_Amerindian 14.83%
3 Spanish_Extremadura 8.70%
4 Bantu_S.E. 8.62%
5 Algerian 5.98%
6 Mayan 5.29%
7 Portuguese 4.68%
8 French 4.38%
9 Orcadian 4.15%
10 Mandenka 0.00%

It shows the diversity of Puerto Ricans not only in races but within European ancestry as well. I knew I had distant French in me and 23andme picked up on some Northern Euro (Orcadian on here) but it shows Puerto Ricans are basically Iberian (from all over Iberia) with some smaller outer Iberian sources of Euro.

Atlantic Islander
10-12-2013, 09:11 PM
So it's changed for some? I just ran mine again and it's exactly the same.

Damiăo de Góis
10-12-2013, 09:12 PM
So it's changed for some? I just ran mine again and it's exactly the same.

Same here, it still says i'm from Castilla y Leon.

Equilibrium
10-12-2013, 09:19 PM
So it's changed for some? I just ran mine again and it's exactly the same.

No, it hasn't been updated yet.

Black Wolf
10-12-2013, 09:53 PM
Okay Graham here are my own and my direct family member's results for the plot map. :D

Me:

Population
North_Sea 31.10%
Atlantic 20.43%
Baltic 10.15%
Eastern_Euro 12.53%
West_Med 7.55%
West_Asian 4.79%
East_Med 7.85%
Red_Sea 1.47%
South_Asian 1.06%
Southeast_Asian 0.21%
Siberian 1.01%
Amerindian 0.91%
Oceanian 0.96%
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Mother:

Population
North_Sea 37.52%
Atlantic 29.36%
Baltic 7.75%
Eastern_Euro 10.90%
West_Med 8.71%
West_Asian 4.01%
East_Med -
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 0.69%
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 0.15%
Amerindian 0.42%
Oceanian 0.37%
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.11%

Father:

Population
North_Sea 19.82%
Atlantic 12.74%
Baltic 13.45%
Eastern_Euro 12.27%
West_Med 9.91%
West_Asian 7.70%
East_Med 17.26%
Red_Sea 0.90%
South_Asian 1.14%
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 2.76%
Amerindian 1.63%
Oceanian 0.28%
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.13%

Brother:

Population
North_Sea 29.92%
Atlantic 18.85%
Baltic 8.76%
Eastern_Euro 12.76%
West_Med 10.33%
West_Asian 6.55%
East_Med 7.66%
Red_Sea 1.58%
South_Asian 0.13%
Southeast_Asian 0.40%
Siberian 1.33%
Amerindian 1.43%
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.30%

Paternal Grandfather:

Population
North_Sea 9.20%
Atlantic 13.30%
Baltic 6.18%
Eastern_Euro 1.49%
West_Med 14.43%
West_Asian 16.92%
East_Med 32.89%
Red_Sea 4.85%
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.72%
Sub-Saharan -

Sea Warrior
10-12-2013, 11:14 PM
Hey Graham,

If at all possible I would greatly appreciate being included in the map. My results are on page 10 of this thread, however I will post them again to make it easier for you.

My results:

North_Sea 36.26%
Atlantic 27.32%
Baltic 13.03%
Eastern_Euro 5.43%
West_Med 9.64%
West_Asian 3.34%
East_Med 1.74%
Red_Sea 2.36%
South_Asian-
Southeast_Asian-
Siberian 0.58%
Amerindian 0.14%
Oceanian-
Northeast_African-
Sub-Saharan 0.16%

Thanks!

Black Wolf
10-12-2013, 11:25 PM
Hey Graham,

If at all possible I would greatly appreciate being included in the map. My results are on page 10 of this thread, however I will post them again to make it easier for you.

My results:

North_Sea 36.26%
Atlantic 27.32%
Baltic 13.03%
Eastern_Euro 5.43%
West_Med 9.64%
West_Asian 3.34%
East_Med 1.74%
Red_Sea 2.36%
South_Asian-
Southeast_Asian-
Siberian 0.58%
Amerindian 0.14%
Oceanian-
Northeast_African-
Sub-Saharan 0.16%

Thanks!

Hey Sea Warrior seeing that your dominant component is also North_Sea would you care to join Tomato Tom and I as we go raiding in the Baltic next? :cool:

Jackson
10-13-2013, 12:05 AM
Hey Graham,

If at all possible I would greatly appreciate being included in the map. My results are on page 10 of this thread, however I will post them again to make it easier for you.

My results:

North_Sea 36.26%
Atlantic 27.32%
Baltic 13.03%
Eastern_Euro 5.43%
West_Med 9.64%
West_Asian 3.34%
East_Med 1.74%
Red_Sea 2.36%
South_Asian-
Southeast_Asian-
Siberian 0.58%
Amerindian 0.14%
Oceanian-
Northeast_African-
Sub-Saharan 0.16%

Thanks!

Where's your ancestry from, if you don't mind me asking? :)

Jackson
10-13-2013, 12:10 AM
Hey Sea Warrior seeing that your dominant component is also North_Sea would you care to join Tomato Tom and I as we go raiding in the Baltic next? :cool:

Be sure to get suited and booted first:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFiIDl_mt2c

Black Wolf
10-13-2013, 12:11 AM
Be sure to get suited and booted first:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFiIDl_mt2c

Aye lad I would never forget my suit and boots before a raid.....Now if you will excuse me it is time for me to go get drunk! :D

Jackson
10-13-2013, 12:14 AM
Aye lad I would never forget my suit and boots before a raid.....Now if you will excuse me it is time for me to go get drunk! :D

Ah i hope you are getting drunk after your raid, or you might not be coming back at all..:P

Graham
10-13-2013, 12:38 AM
If you will add West Asians to the plots can you add the following:



That is as far East As I am going nearly. So will add them. Also Sea Warrior etc..

Am still working on the map. It's like pulling something apart and putting it back together. So I have to change things here and there. To get the map right, but am making progress.

http://imageshack.us/a/img4/5466/t373.png

Jackson
10-13-2013, 12:49 AM
That is as far East As I am going nearly. So will add them. Also Sea Warrior etc..

Am still working on the map. It's like pulling something apart and putting it back together. So I have to change things here and there. To get the map right, but am making progress.

http://imageshack.us/a/img4/5466/t373.png

Interesting so far. :) The north European vs Mediterranean seems to be a really big divider here.

orangepulp
10-13-2013, 12:55 AM
That is as far East As I am going nearly. So will add them. Also Sea Warrior etc..


Thank you. Can you add me and my relatives too? My aunt and my results are at the first page, my grandmothers is somewhere in the middle pages but I will post it here for your convince.

My grandmother's results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 40.82
2 East_Med 29.95
3 West_Med 10.29
4 Atlantic 8.15
5 Red_Sea 4.31
6 Eastern_Euro 4.11
7 Siberian 2.36

Graham
10-13-2013, 12:56 AM
Interesting so far. :) The north European vs Mediterranean seems to be a really big divider here.

There are some, I could do that to. But the Danes, English & Dutch, you are hard pushed to nudge Northwards.

I had to flip Iberia right round, done that by adding together segments, & leaving Portugal as top on N.Africa taking out all the Africans.

Before that Portugal was saying "Hi how you doing mr N.Italy?" " good day"

Need to flip Norway & Sweden round. The Finns, N Swedes, Baltics & Slavs are sitting nice & cushty at the moment. :P

I hope Polako is ok, with me fucking about with his stats. hehe

Tropico
10-13-2013, 01:03 AM
There are some, I could do that to. But the Danes, English & Dutch, you are hard pushed to nudge Northwards.

I had to flip Iberia right round, done that by adding together segments, & leaving Portugal as top on N.Africa taking out all the Africans.

Before that Portugal was saying "Hi how you doing mr N.Italy?" " good day"

Need to flip Norway & Sweden round. The Finns, N Swedes, Baltics & Slavs are sitting nice & cushty at the moment. :P

I hope Polako is ok, with me fucking about with his stats. hehe

It'd be cool if once your done we could plot New Worlders on there.

hobosmurf
10-13-2013, 01:03 AM
Population
North_Sea -
Atlantic -
Baltic -
Eastern_Euro -
West_Med -
West_Asian 0.60%
East_Med -
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian 74.32%
Siberian 25.08%
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Sea Warrior
10-13-2013, 01:04 AM
Hey Sea Warrior seeing that your dominant component is also North_Sea would you care to join Tomato Tom and I as we go raiding in the Baltic next? :cool:

Definitely. I'm in. I'll bring my long sword, battle axe, and shield! LOL!

Sea Warrior
10-13-2013, 01:22 AM
Where's your ancestry from, if you don't mind me asking? :)

Hi Jackson,

To the best of my knowledge my ancestry is as follows.

My father's side is mostly from the British Isles. My paternal grandmother is about 75% English with the remainder being Scottish. My paternal grandfather was mostly English and Irish, but also had some German ancestry.

My mother's side is mostly German (but I seem to have inherited a majority of the Northwest like ancestry from her instead of Central European). My maternal grandfather was half Austrian and half German. My maternal grandmother was a quarter Swedish, about half German/Dutch with the remaining quarter being a mix of French and English.

I can pm you with more specifics if you're interested. Let me know what you think.

Jackson
10-13-2013, 01:36 AM
Hi Jackson,

To the best of my knowledge my ancestry is as follows.

My father's side is mostly from the British Isles. My paternal grandmother is about 75% English with the remainder being Scottish. My paternal grandfather was mostly English and Irish, but also had some German ancestry.

My mother's side is mostly German (but I seem to have inherited a majority of the Northwest like ancestry from her instead of Central European). My maternal grandfather was half Austrian and half German. My maternal grandmother was a quarter Swedish, about half German/Dutch with the remaining quarter being a mix of French and English.

I can pm you with more specifics if you're interested. Let me know what you think.

Interesting! Thanks for sharing. :) It's just useful so that if people have similar results (you seem to be quite similar to many other NW Europeans) they can compare.

Sehnsucht
10-13-2013, 01:44 AM
That is as far East As I am going nearly. So will add them. Also Sea Warrior etc..


http://imageshack.us/a/img4/5466/t373.png

Graham, could my relatives and I also be added to your map if it is possible?

Black Wolf
10-13-2013, 04:45 AM
Ah i hope you are getting drunk after your raid, or you might not be coming back at all..:P

Fuck man! Came home early! Still barely making it!

Black Wolf
10-13-2013, 04:48 AM
Definitely. I'm in. I'll bring my long sword, battle axe, and shield! LOL!

Aye good lad!

Maleficent
10-13-2013, 05:42 AM
Welcome to the North Sea autosomal DNA clan Tomato Tom! I am actually planning a raid tonight against some of the Atlantic and East Med folks if you care to join? :p

Us East Med and Atlantic folks are a strong lot, we can take you on!:mad::p

Black Wolf
10-13-2013, 06:10 AM
Us East Med and Atlantic folks are a strong lot, we can take you on!:mad::p

It's okay I know in the end that I am actually a Y-DNA J2a man! That is West Asian lol!..Caucasus Power! :P

Maleficent
10-13-2013, 06:20 AM
It's okay I know in the end that I am actually a Y-DNA J2a man! That is West Asian lol!..Caucasus Power! :P

Your direct paternal lineage has given you away; we'll be taking you back as one of our own in preparation for battle.:p

Mortimer
10-13-2013, 06:20 AM
Interesting...very interesting indeed in regard to my unknown ancestry! It doesn't have English as the top match again, but given that i seem to be mixed i guess it's to be expected. :)
It also makes sense more in regard to the core ancestry, given that the Scottish aren't ridiculously far away like they used to be, and the French are relatively closer.
That 6% East Mediterranean or Sephardic Jewish fits well with genaeologically 1/16, which is interesting. No real Jewish links show up on 23&me, although they might do as my matches increase. Otherwise it looks to be from populations closely related to them, like Syrians, Palestinians. I'll re-evaluate this when i have run my mother and aunt, as they get different results and it might clear things up a bit more - As it looks more like southern Italian on 23&me (and i have close-ish Italian matches on GEDmatch).

Here's my results. I'll post results for the rest of my family shortly:

1) North_Sea 34.34
2) Atlantic 24.73
3) Baltic 11.82
4) Eastern_Euro 8.91
5) West_Med 8.52
6) East_Med 4.31
7) West_Asian 3.67
8) Red_Sea 1.7
9) South_Asian 0.89
10) Sub-Saharan 0.56
11) Oceanian 0.41
12) Amerindian 0.13
13) Northeast_African 0.01

1) German 3.3
2) Dutch 3.56
3) Southeast_English 5.29
4) Southwest_English 5.42
5) Danish 5.5
6) Irish 6.33
7) Orcadian 6.56
8) West_Scottish 6.62
9) Norwegian 6.79
10) Swedish 7.4
11) French 9.46
12) North_Swedish 9.72
13) Hungarian 13.79
14) Austrian 14
15) Southwest_Finnish 14.05
16) Finnish 16.99
17) Spanish_Galicia 17.29
18) Serbian 17.45
19) Spanish_Cataluna 17.64
20) Portuguese 18.5

1) 92.4% Dutch + 7.6% Sephardic_Jewish @ 1.33
2) 94% Dutch + 6% Palestinian @ 1.34
3) 94.1% Dutch + 5.9% Samaritan @ 1.37
4) 93.9% Dutch + 6.1% Jordanian @ 1.41
5) 93.7% Dutch + 6.3% Syrian @ 1.42
6) 93.9% Dutch + 6.1% Bedouin @ 1.43
7) 94.3% Dutch + 5.7% Lebanese_Christian @ 1.44
8) 93.7% Dutch + 6.3% Lebanese_Muslim @ 1.46
9) 94.3% Dutch + 5.7% Lebanese_Druze @ 1.46
10) 93.6% Dutch + 6.4% Cyprian @ 1.47

you have a bit southasian i noticed also on 23andme. you said your dad is related to me, is your southasian from him??

Mortimer
10-13-2013, 06:26 AM
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 16.58
2 East_Med 14.08
3 South_Asian 13.51
4 West_Med 13.39
5 West_Asian 12.61
6 Baltic 10.91
7 Eastern_Euro 7.45
8 Atlantic 5.61
9 Red_Sea 2.93
10 Southeast_Asian 1.85
11 Oceanian 1.06


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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Romanian @ 17.823
2 Bulgarian @ 18.383
3 Serbian @ 19.717
4 Ashkenazi @ 20.879
5 Greek @ 20.905
6 Tuscan @ 23.050
7 Hungarian @ 24.190
8 North_Italian @ 25.130
9 Austrian @ 26.318
10 Tadjik @ 26.836
165 iterations.



Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Hungarian +50% Makrani @ 12.759
2 50% Makrani +50% Spanish_Galicia @ 12.918
3 50% Balochi +50% Spanish_Galicia @ 13.268
4 50% Brahui +50% Spanish_Galicia @ 13.366
5 50% French +50% Makrani @ 13.581
6 50% Brahui +50% Hungarian @ 13.810
7 50% Balochi +50% Hungarian @ 13.917
8 50% Makrani +50% Portuguese @ 13.937
9 50% Makrani +50% Serbian @ 13.999
10 50% North_Italian +50% Tadjik @ 14.043
13695 iterations.



Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Ashkenazi +25% Punjabi_Jat +25% Ukrainian_West @ 8.001
2 50% Ashkenazi +25% Punjabi_Jat +25% Ukrainian @ 8.043
3 50% Ashkenazi +25% Hungarian +25% Punjabi_Jat @ 8.121
4 50% Hungarian +25% Cyprian +25% Gujarati @ 8.202
5 50% Hungarian +25% Punjabi_Jat +25% Samaritan @ 8.253
6 50% Ashkenazi +25% Gujarati +25% Ukrainian_West @ 8.267
7 50% Ashkenazi +25% Gujarati +25% Ukrainian @ 8.284
8 50% Hungarian +25% Gujarati +25% Samaritan @ 8.319
9 50% Hungarian +25% Cyprian +25% Punjabi_Jat @ 8.354
10 50% Ashkenazi +25% Gujarati +25% Hungarian @ 8.418
952762 iterations.



Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Lebanese_Christian + Punjabi_Jat + Spanish_Galicia + Ukrainian @ 7.808
2 Punjabi_Jat + Samaritan + Spanish_Galicia + Ukrainian_West @ 7.809
3 Lebanese_Christian + Punjabi_Jat + Spanish_Galicia + Ukrainian_West @ 7.809
4 Punjabi_Jat + Samaritan + Spanish_Galicia + Ukrainian @ 7.823
5 Cyprian + Punjabi_Jat + Spanish_Galicia + Ukrainian_West @ 7.931
6 Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Punjabi_Jat + Ukrainian_West @ 8.001
7 Cyprian + Punjabi_Jat + Spanish_Galicia + Ukrainian @ 8.022
8 Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Punjabi_Jat + Ukrainian @ 8.043
9 Assyrian + Estonian + Punjabi_Jat + Sardinian @ 8.075
10 Punjabi_Jat + Spanish_Galicia + Syrian + Ukrainian_West @ 8.105
11 Punjabi_Jat + Spanish_Galicia + Syrian + Ukrainian @ 8.117
12 Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Hungarian + Punjabi_Jat @ 8.121
13 Ashkenazi + Punjabi_Jat + Tuscan + Ukrainian_West @ 8.124
14 Cyprian + Estonian + Sindhi + Spanish_Galicia @ 8.137
15 Cyprian + Sindhi + Spanish_Galicia + Ukrainian @ 8.140
16 Cyprian + Sindhi + Spanish_Galicia + Ukrainian_West @ 8.143
17 Estonian + Lebanese_Christian + Punjabi_Jat + Spanish_Galicia @ 8.146
18 French + Punjabi_Jat + Samaritan + Ukrainian_West @ 8.148
19 Estonian + Samaritan + Sindhi + Spanish_Galicia @ 8.149
20 Estonian + Punjabi_Jat + Samaritan + Spanish_Galicia @ 8.178

does that indicate any jewish ancestry?

Pct. Calc. Option 2

0 Unable to determine 0.01%
1 Romanian 45.75%
2 Chenchu 11.97%
3 Armenian 10.68%
4 Norwegian 5.74%
5 Austroasiatic_Ho 5.73%
6 Algerian 5.73%
7 Ukrainian_West 5.06%
8 Ashkenazi 4.62%
9 Swedish 4.07%
10 Punjabi_Jat 0.63%

Pct. Calc. Option 1

1 Ukrainian 29.05%
2 Armenian 26.56%
3 Chenchu 15.95%
4 Norwegian 13.14%
5 Sardinian 11.29%
6 Saudi 2.98%
7 NAN_Melanesian 0.55%
8 Cambodian 0.48%
9 Moroccan 0.00%
10 Romanian 0.00%

Graham
10-13-2013, 09:35 AM
Hey how should I try and improve this? Should Russia push out more? Sorry my knowledge on East Europe isnt great. :P

http://imageshack.us/a/img856/7462/b4j1.png

Dreger22310
10-13-2013, 10:04 AM
Depending on the calculator I use, we are either germans or from the Isles.

Good Luck for putting Bretons on the map.

My mother (NW Brittany)

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 34.76
2 North_Sea 30.03
3 Baltic 9.6
4 Eastern_Euro 9.07
5 West_Med 8.13
6 West_Asian 5.88
7 South_Asian 1.54
8 Amerindian 0.72
9 Sub-Saharan 0.27

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southeast_English 7.11
2 Irish 7.23
3 Southwest_English 7.79
4 West_Scottish 7.9
5 Danish 8.13
6 German 9.02
7 Dutch 10.42
8 Orcadian 11.57
9 French 12.27
10 Norwegian 13.77
11 Swedish 14.76
12 North_Swedish 16.26
13 Austrian 16.54
14 Spanish_Cataluna 17.33
15 Southwest_Finnish 18.08
16 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 18.41
17 Southwest_French 18.75
18 Spanish_Cantabria 18.99
19 Spanish_Galicia 19.26
20 Portuguese 19.51


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 80.4% Irish + 19.6% French_Basque @ 4.81
2 77.5% Danish + 22.5% French_Basque @ 4.99
3 78.3% West_Scottish + 21.7% French_Basque @ 5.01
4 83.5% Southeast_English + 16.5% French_Basque @ 5.63
5 79.8% Irish + 20.2% Southwest_French @ 5.64
6 81.5% Irish + 18.5% Spanish_Aragon @ 5.72
7 81.4% Irish + 18.6% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 5.74
8 76.9% West_Scottish + 23.1% Southwest_French @ 5.82
9 81.8% Irish + 18.2% Spanish_Valencia @ 5.83
10 83.4% Irish + 16.6% Spanish_Andalucia @ 5.87
11 81.4% Irish + 18.6% Spanish_Cantabria @ 5.94
12 78.9% West_Scottish + 21.1% Spanish_Aragon @ 5.96
13 78.7% West_Scottish + 21.3% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 5.99
14 79% West_Scottish + 21% Spanish_Valencia @ 6.07
15 80.8% West_Scottish + 19.2% Spanish_Andalucia @ 6.11
16 77.1% Danish + 22.9% Southwest_French @ 6.2
17 78.6% West_Scottish + 21.4% Spanish_Cantabria @ 6.22
18 81.9% Irish + 18.1% Spanish_Cataluna @ 6.28
19 78.9% Danish + 21.1% Spanish_Aragon @ 6.28
20 82.9% Irish + 17.1% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 6.29

oracle4:Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 35.11
2 North_Sea 30.33
3 Baltic 9.70
4 Eastern_Euro 9.16
5 West_Med 8.21
6 West_Asian 5.94
7 South Asian

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Southeast_English @ 8.352
2 Irish @ 8.442
3 Southwest_English @ 9.079
4 West_Scottish @ 9.203
5 Danish @ 9.537
6 German @ 10.711
7 Dutch @ 12.264
8 Orcadian @ 13.558
9 French @ 14.345
10 Norwegian @ 16.167

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Irish +50% Southeast_English @ 8.277
2 50% Southeast_English +50% Southeast_English @ 8.352
3 50% Irish +50% Southwest_English @ 8.409
4 50% Irish +50% Irish @ 8.442
5 50% Southeast_English +50% Southwest_English @ 8.615
6 50% Southeast_English +50% West_Scottish @ 8.638
7 50% Southwest_English +50% West_Scottish @ 8.741
8 50% Irish +50% West_Scottish @ 8.796
9 50% Danish +50% Southeast_English @ 8.821
10 50% German +50% Irish @ 8.823

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Irish +25% Danish +25% French_Basque @ 5.705
2 50% Danish +25% French_Basque +25% Irish @ 5.723
3 50% Irish +25% French_Basque +25% West_Scottish @ 5.752
4 50% West_Scottish +25% Danish +25% French_Basque @ 5.757
5 50% West_Scottish +25% French_Basque +25% Irish @ 5.761
6 50% Danish +25% French_Basque +25% West_Scottish @ 5.766
7 50% Irish +25% French_Basque +25% Irish @ 5.770
8 50% West_Scottish +25% French_Basque +25% West_Scottish @ 5.796
9 50% Danish +25% Danish +25% French_Basque @ 5.824
10 50% West_Scottish +25% French_Basque +25% German @ 5.911

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Danish + French_Basque + Irish + Irish @ 5.705
2 Danish + French_Basque + Irish + West_Scottish @ 5.717
3 Danish + Danish + French_Basque + Irish @ 5.723
4 French_Basque + Irish + Irish + West_Scottish @ 5.752
5 Danish + French_Basque + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.757
6 French_Basque + Irish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.761
7 Danish + Danish + French_Basque + West_Scottish @ 5.766
8 French_Basque + Irish + Irish + Irish @ 5.770
9 French_Basque + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.796
10 Danish + Danish + Danish + French_Basque @ 5.824
11 French_Basque + German + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 5.911
12 French_Basque + German + Irish + West_Scottish @ 5.952
13 Danish + French_Basque + German + West_Scottish @ 5.996
14 French_Basque + German + Irish + Irish @ 6.018
15 Danish + French_Basque + German + Irish @ 6.033
16 Danish + French_Basque + Irish + Southeast_English @ 6.063
17 Danish + French_Basque + Southeast_English + West_Scottish @ 6.075
18 French_Basque + Irish + Southeast_English + West_Scottish @ 6.079
19 French_Basque + Southeast_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 6.088
20 French_Basque + Irish + Irish + Southeast_English @ 6.096

My results (eurogenes FR 18):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 33.44
2 North_Sea 24.99
3 Eastern_Euro 11.78
4 Baltic 10.84
5 West_Med 9.62
6 West_Asian 6.85
7 South_Asian 1.33
8 Amerindian 0.74
9 Northeast_African 0.42

# Population (source) Distance
1 German 9.87
2 Southeast_English 10.67
3 Southwest_English 10.76
4 Irish 11.23
5 Danish 11.58
6 West_Scottish 11.94
7 French 12.1
8 Dutch 12.7
9 Austrian 13.25
10 Orcadian 15.08
11 Spanish_Cataluna 16.02
12 Norwegian 16.13
13 Southwest_French 16.66
14 Swedish 16.85
15 Southwest_Finnish 16.95
16 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 17.07
17 Hungarian 17.16
18 North_Swedish 17.17
19 Spanish_Cantabria 17.39
20 Spanish_Galicia 18.1


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 74.3% German + 25.7% French_Basque @ 6.88
2 57% Southwest_Finnish + 43% French_Basque @ 7.12
3 56.6% North_Swedish + 43.4% French_Basque @ 7.15
4 51.1% Finnish + 48.9% French_Basque @ 7.88
5 70.4% Danish + 29.6% French_Basque @ 7.92
6 63.6% Danish + 36.4% Southwest_French @ 8.01
7 65.1% Irish + 34.9% Southwest_French @ 8.06
8 72.2% German + 27.8% Southwest_French @ 8.13
9 67.2% Dutch + 32.8% French_Basque @ 8.14
10 57.6% Swedish + 42.4% French_Basque @ 8.15
11 62.6% West_Scottish + 37.4% Southwest_French @ 8.21
12 72.4% Irish + 27.6% French_Basque @ 8.27
13 60.7% Southeast_English + 39.3% Austrian @ 8.33
14 76.3% German + 23.7% Spanish_Aragon @ 8.37
15 57.9% Irish + 42.1% Austrian @ 8.39
16 60.5% Southwest_English + 39.5% Austrian @ 8.42
17 59.1% Norwegian + 40.9% French_Basque @ 8.45
18 76.1% German + 23.9% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 8.47
19 71.1% Irish + 28.9% Spanish_Andalucia @ 8.49
20 68.8% Irish + 31.2% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 8.5

Oracle 4:

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 4-Ancestors Oracle
Admix Results
# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 33.83
2 North_Sea 25.28
3 Eastern_Euro 11.91
4 Baltic 10.97
5 West_Med 9.73
6 West_Asian 6.93
7 South_Asian 1.34


--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 German @ 11.642
2 Southeast_English @ 12.463
3 Southwest_English @ 12.542
4 Irish @ 13.080
5 Danish @ 13.495
6 West_Scottish @ 13.881
7 French @ 14.168
8 Dutch @ 14.888
9 Austrian @ 15.705
10 Orcadian @ 17.627

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% French_Basque +50% North_Swedish @ 8.598
2 50% French_Basque +50% Southwest_Finnish @ 8.637
3 50% Finnish +50% French_Basque @ 9.007
4 50% French_Basque +50% Swedish @ 9.786
5 50% Danish +50% Southwest_French @ 9.959
6 50% Southwest_French +50% West_Scottish @ 10.051
7 50% Austrian +50% Irish @ 10.060
8 50% Irish +50% Southwest_French @ 10.102
9 50% Austrian +50% Southeast_English @ 10.129
10 50% Austrian +50% West_Scottish @ 10.148

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% West_Scottish +25% French_Basque +25% Ukrainian_Northeast @ 6.665
2 50% Irish +25% French_Basque +25% Ukrainian_Northeast @ 6.710
3 50% Irish +25% French_Basque +25% Kargopol_Russian @ 6.863
4 50% Southeast_English +25% French_Basque +25% Ukrainian_Northeast @ 6.909
5 50% Danish +25% French_Basque +25% Ukrainian_Northeast @ 6.966
6 50% West_Scottish +25% French_Basque +25% Kargopol_Russian @ 6.993
7 50% West_Scottish +25% French_Basque +25% Russian @ 7.002
8 50% Danish +25% Austrian +25% French_Basque @ 7.019
9 50% Irish +25% French_Basque +25% Russian @ 7.025
10 50% West_Scottish +25% Austrian +25% French_Basque @ 7.086

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 French_Basque + Ukrainian_Northeast + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 6.665
2 French_Basque + Irish + Ukrainian_Northeast + West_Scottish @ 6.676
3 French_Basque + Irish + Irish + Ukrainian_Northeast @ 6.710
4 French_Basque + Southeast_English + Ukrainian_Northeast + West_Scottish @ 6.740
5 French_Basque + Irish + Southeast_English + Ukrainian_Northeast @ 6.773
6 Danish + French_Basque + Ukrainian_Northeast + West_Scottish @ 6.796
7 Danish + French_Basque + Irish + Ukrainian_Northeast @ 6.804
8 French_Basque + Irish + Irish + Kargopol_Russian @ 6.863
9 Danish + French_Basque + Southeast_English + Ukrainian_Northeast @ 6.892
10 French_Basque + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Ukrainian_Northeast @ 6.909
11 French_Basque + Southwest_English + Ukrainian_Northeast + West_Scottish @ 6.916
12 French_Basque + Irish + Kargopol_Russian + West_Scottish @ 6.918
13 French_Basque + Irish + Kargopol_Russian + Southeast_English @ 6.949
14 French_Basque + Irish + Southwest_English + Ukrainian_Northeast @ 6.955
15 Danish + Danish + French_Basque + Ukrainian_Northeast @ 6.966
16 French_Basque + Kargopol_Russian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 6.993
17 French_Basque + Russian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 7.002
18 French_Basque + Irish + Russian + West_Scottish @ 7.003

Jackson
10-13-2013, 10:42 AM
you have a bit southasian i noticed also on 23andme. you said your dad is related to me, is your southasian from him??

I don't know, it's quite possible. A little bit shows up for my father and grandfather, although it might just be noise as many Brits get a little bit of it. Although i noticed my mother and aunt have 1-2% South Asian.

I know my dad's phased file (which shows up better what my dad got from my grandfather) has a somewhat elevated South Asian score, so it's quite possible that it is real. And it could also explain our connection.

Jackson
10-13-2013, 11:00 AM
you have a bit southasian i noticed also on 23andme. you said your dad is related to me, is your southasian from him??

Here's my Dad's phased file, here the South Asian seems to show up quite significantly, although Red Sea and East Med are also raised a bit too. Phased data files are less reliable so i'll include his normal one too. I'm not entirely sure but it could be quite far back if it is there, it definitely shows up in my mother and aunt a bit though.

Normal:

1 North_Sea 37.92
2 Atlantic 25.18
3 Baltic 12.04
4 West_Med 9.36
5 Eastern_Euro 8.41
6 East_Med 4.38
7 Red_Sea 1.35
8 South_Asian 0.68
9 Amerindian 0.44
10 West_Asian 0.25

Phased

1 North_Sea 39.67
2 Atlantic 21.62
3 Baltic 13.40
4 Eastern_Euro 7.70
5 West_Med 7.27
6 East_Med 5.13
7 South_Asian 1.93
8 West_Asian 1.79
9 Red_Sea 1.49

Albion
10-13-2013, 12:56 PM
1 Atlantic 34.25
2 North_Sea 32.14
3 Baltic 12.5
4 Eastern_Euro 9.03
5 West_Asian 4.95
6 West_Med 4.85
7 South_Asian 1.05
8 Sub-Saharan 0.67
9 Red_Sea 0.51
10 Siberian 0.05

1 Irish 5.7
2 West_Scottish 6.4
3 Danish 6.79
4 Southeast_English 6.92
5 Southwest_English 8.45
6 German 8.67
7 Dutch 9.33
8 Orcadian 10.13
9 Norwegian 11.87
10 Swedish 12.37
11 North_Swedish 14.07
12 French 14.49
13 Southwest_Finnish 16.12
14 Austrian 16.65
15 Hungarian 19.12
16 Finnish 20
17 Spanish_Cataluna 20.33
18 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 21.28
19 Spanish_Galicia 21.91
20 Southwest_French 22.04

1 88.9% Irish + 11.1% Austrian @ 5.34
2 93% Irish + 7% French_Basque @ 5.36
3 93.3% Irish + 6.7% Belorussian @ 5.37
4 93.8% Irish + 6.2% Ukrainian_Northeast @ 5.4
5 94.7% Irish + 5.3% Lithuanian @ 5.45
6 94.5% Irish + 5.5% Russian @ 5.48
7 97.2% Irish + 2.8% North_Ossetian @ 5.49
8 95% Irish + 5% Kargopol_Russian @ 5.5
9 97.3% Irish + 2.7% Adygei @ 5.51
10 97.1% Irish + 2.9% Chechen @ 5.51
11 94% Irish + 6% Polish @ 5.52
12 97.3% Irish + 2.7% Balkar @ 5.52
13 96.1% Irish + 3.9% Erzya @ 5.54
14 97.7% Irish + 2.3% Burusho @ 5.54
15 97.1% Irish + 2.9% Tadjik @ 5.55
16 97.2% Irish + 2.8% Nogay @ 5.56
17 97.6% Irish + 2.4% Lezgin @ 5.57
18 97.9% Irish + 2.1% Balochi @ 5.57
19 98.1% Irish + 1.9% Abhkasian @ 5.57
20 98% Irish + 2% Pathan @ 5.58[/QUOTE]



I got Irish, Scottish and Danish again. It might change in the future if they create a Midlands or Northern English category. At the moment it seems to be picking up my Irish ancestry which isn't higher than 25% as far as I know, but I haven't traced my paternal side fully yet so it might be an underestimate. Alternatively, 'Danish' could be representative of rural midlands English if they're more Germanic than average.

Albion
10-13-2013, 01:06 PM
Here's my Dad's phased file, here the South Asian seems to show up quite significantly, although Red Sea and East Med are also raised a bit too. Phased data files are less reliable so i'll include his normal one too. I'm not entirely sure but it could be quite far back if it is there, it definitely shows up in my mother and aunt a bit though.

Normal:

1 North_Sea 37.92
2 Atlantic 25.18
3 Baltic 12.04
4 West_Med 9.36
5 Eastern_Euro 8.41
6 East_Med 4.38
7 Red_Sea 1.35
8 South_Asian 0.68
9 Amerindian 0.44
10 West_Asian 0.25

Phased

1 North_Sea 39.67
2 Atlantic 21.62
3 Baltic 13.40
4 Eastern_Euro 7.70
5 West_Med 7.27
6 East_Med 5.13
7 South_Asian 1.93
8 West_Asian 1.79
9 Red_Sea 1.49

South Asian in most of Europe is probably Romani, although some of it in the UK could be from the British East India Company. In the early days of the colonization of India, taking Indian wives was encouraged before the Suez Canal opened because it wasn't thought that British women would survive the trip (death rates on ships were high at this time).
When Suez opened and India was taken over by the government, British women were brought over and the Anglo-Indian offspring became a secondary layer in the society between British rulers and Indian subjects. Look up Anglo-Indians.
Some family great grandparents on my mother's side served in India, this was after 1900 though.

Jackson
10-13-2013, 01:24 PM
South Asian in most of Europe is probably Romani, although some of it in the UK could be from the British East India Company. In the early days of the colonization of India, taking Indian wives was encouraged before the Suez Canal opened because it wasn't thought that British women would survive the trip (death rates on ships were high at this time).
When Suez opened and India was taken over by the government, British women were brought over and the Anglo-Indian offspring became a secondary layer in the society between British rulers and Indian subjects. Look up Anglo-Indians.
Some family great grandparents on my mother's side served in India, this was after 1900 though.

Interesting :) Thanks for letting me know, that may well be the case.

Jackson
10-13-2013, 01:34 PM
1 Atlantic 34.25
2 North_Sea 32.14
3 Baltic 12.5
4 Eastern_Euro 9.03
5 West_Asian 4.95
6 West_Med 4.85
7 South_Asian 1.05
8 Sub-Saharan 0.67
9 Red_Sea 0.51
10 Siberian 0.05

1 Irish 5.7
2 West_Scottish 6.4
3 Danish 6.79
4 Southeast_English 6.92
5 Southwest_English 8.45
6 German 8.67
7 Dutch 9.33
8 Orcadian 10.13
9 Norwegian 11.87
10 Swedish 12.37
11 North_Swedish 14.07
12 French 14.49
13 Southwest_Finnish 16.12
14 Austrian 16.65
15 Hungarian 19.12
16 Finnish 20
17 Spanish_Cataluna 20.33
18 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 21.28
19 Spanish_Galicia 21.91
20 Southwest_French 22.04

1 88.9% Irish + 11.1% Austrian @ 5.34
2 93% Irish + 7% French_Basque @ 5.36
3 93.3% Irish + 6.7% Belorussian @ 5.37
4 93.8% Irish + 6.2% Ukrainian_Northeast @ 5.4
5 94.7% Irish + 5.3% Lithuanian @ 5.45
6 94.5% Irish + 5.5% Russian @ 5.48
7 97.2% Irish + 2.8% North_Ossetian @ 5.49
8 95% Irish + 5% Kargopol_Russian @ 5.5
9 97.3% Irish + 2.7% Adygei @ 5.51
10 97.1% Irish + 2.9% Chechen @ 5.51
11 94% Irish + 6% Polish @ 5.52
12 97.3% Irish + 2.7% Balkar @ 5.52
13 96.1% Irish + 3.9% Erzya @ 5.54
14 97.7% Irish + 2.3% Burusho @ 5.54
15 97.1% Irish + 2.9% Tadjik @ 5.55
16 97.2% Irish + 2.8% Nogay @ 5.56
17 97.6% Irish + 2.4% Lezgin @ 5.57
18 97.9% Irish + 2.1% Balochi @ 5.57
19 98.1% Irish + 1.9% Abhkasian @ 5.57
20 98% Irish + 2% Pathan @ 5.58



I got Irish, Scottish and Danish again. It might change in the future if they create a Midlands or Northern English category. At the moment it seems to be picking up my Irish ancestry which isn't higher than 25% as far as I know, but I haven't traced my paternal side fully yet so it might be an underestimate. Alternatively, 'Danish' could be representative of rural midlands English if they're more Germanic than average.[/QUOTE]

I think that would be a good idea to create a northern (and also eastern) English category if the data becomes available - A bit like what Spain have, i think 5 or 6 regions represented? I assume Kent is used for south-east English, i think an eastern English category would also be useful because i think my family (apart from my Grandmother) might fit better in that, and instead end up on the continent. It would be interesting to know if the percentages for that big red cluster in POBI are an average or are like that in every area, because there seems to be a fair bit of variation between families even now.

Mortimer
10-13-2013, 01:56 PM
South Asian in most of Europe is probably Romani, although some of it in the UK could be from the British East India Company. In the early days of the colonization of India, taking Indian wives was encouraged before the Suez Canal opened because it wasn't thought that British women would survive the trip (death rates on ships were high at this time).
When Suez opened and India was taken over by the government, British women were brought over and the Anglo-Indian offspring became a secondary layer in the society between British rulers and Indian subjects. Look up Anglo-Indians.
Some family great grandparents on my mother's side served in India, this was after 1900 though.

but if he is related to me it is probably romani

Mortimer
10-13-2013, 01:58 PM
Albion has southasian too, it is interesting how deep connection british people have to india, even prince william is a bit indian

Xyresic
10-13-2013, 03:15 PM
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 31.53
2 West_Asian 27.99
3 West_Med 11.81
4 Red_Sea 6.86
5 North_Sea 6.79
6 Baltic 4.52
7 Atlantic 3.2
8 South_Asian 2.8
9 Eastern_Euro 1.71
10 Northeast_African 1.54
11 Siberian 1.2
12 Southeast_Asian 0.05

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkish 7.88
2 Assyrian 9.73
3 Armenian 10.06
4 Lebanese_Muslim 10.8
5 Syrian 12.24
6 Cyprian 12.5
7 Kurdish 12.88
8 Iranian 14.29
9 Ashkenazi 15.88
10 Sephardic_Jewish 16.58
11 Lebanese_Christian 16.87
12 Samaritan 17.49
13 Jordanian 17.67
14 Lebanese_Druze 18.4
15 Palestinian 19.68
16 Greek 20.87
17 Kumyk 21
18 Bedouin 21.55
19 Tuscan 25.2
20 Georgian 25.52

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62% Armenian + 38% Ashkenazi @ 3.18
2 63.7% Cyprian + 36.3% Kumyk @ 4.47
3 54.8% Samaritan + 45.2% Kumyk @ 4.66
4 69.6% Armenian + 30.4% Greek @ 4.77
5 71.2% Cyprian + 28.8% Chechen @ 4.91
6 73.8% Armenian + 26.2% Tuscan @ 4.91
7 62.9% Samaritan + 37.1% Chechen @ 4.95
8 82% Assyrian + 18% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.97
9 76.7% Assyrian + 23.3% Romanian @ 5.08
10 69.4% Cyprian + 30.6% Lezgin @ 5.08
11 71.2% Cyprian + 28.8% North_Ossetian @ 5.09
12 60.8% Samaritan + 39.2% Balkar @ 5.12
13 69% Cyprian + 31% Adygei @ 5.13
14 81.5% Armenian + 18.5% Spanish_Galicia @ 5.18
15 75.6% Assyrian + 24.4% Bulgarian @ 5.2
16 69.5% Cyprian + 30.5% Balkar @ 5.2
17 74.8% Armenian + 25.2% Bulgarian @ 5.21
18 82.9% Assyrian + 17.1% French @ 5.23
19 82.1% Assyrian + 17.9% Portuguese @ 5.25
20 78.3% Armenian + 21.7% North_Italian @ 5.28


Albion has southasian too, it is interesting how deep connection british people have to india, even prince william is a bit indianToo be honest I never get as high 'South Asian' in other runs. I suspect my South Asian score is inflated at the expense of another component. Perhaps you shouldn't take it too literally.

Albion
10-13-2013, 07:43 PM
but if he is related to me it is probably romani

How would he be related to you though? You are from Serbia, he's from England. It's unlikely.


Albion has southasian too, it is interesting how deep connection british people have to india, even prince william is a bit indian

I'd be interested to see how high it is in other Euros before jumping to conclusions though. I don't doubt that a few Anglo-Indians probably mixed in to the general population, that a few Romani mixed in the centuries they've been here or even that the 50+ year old Indian community may have had a small genetic impact.

Jackson knows genetics better than me though, I'm not sure if 'South Asian' is synonymous with 'Gedrosian' or not (Gedrosian peaks in Europe in the British Isles and Scandinavia. Outside of Europe it peaks in Anatolia, Iran and NW India.

http://www.eupedia.com/images/content/Gedrosian-admixture.gif

Albion
10-13-2013, 07:45 PM
Too be honest I never get as high 'South Asian' in other runs. I suspect my South Asian score is inflated at the expense of another component. Perhaps you shouldn't take it too literally.

It seems higher than in other calculators, so you might be right.

Mazik
10-13-2013, 07:48 PM
I'd be interested to see how high it is in other Euros before jumping to conclusions though.

This is the amount of South/Southeast Asian I had with this calc:

South_Asian 1.65%
Southeast_Asian 1.12%