Nurgic culture Sardinaia DNA

[Fire Haired]

Nurgic culture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuragic_civilization) Sardinia, Italy total
mtDNA=22: H=15 68.2%(H1=2(H1?=1,H1aw1=1). H?=2), H or U=3 13.6%, U2=2 9.1%, V=1 9.1%, J-1 9.1%


Nurgic Su Grutta 'e is Bittuleris,
Sardine Italy 1,624bc mtDNA=1: H1aw1=1

Nuragic Carbonia, Sardinia, Italy 1,430bc mtDNA=15: H=9(H?=1),
H or U=3, U2=2, J=1


Nurgic Perdasdefogu Sardinia, Italy
930bc mtDNA=5: H=4(H?=1), V=1

Nurgic Alghero, Sardinia, Italy 700bc mtDNA=1: H1?=1

[SobieskisavedEurope]

So, a lot of H mtDNA it seems.

Do you think H mtDNA largely came to Europe with Neolithic farmers!?

While there are Paleolithic H mtDNA in Europe it seems much more is U mtDNA vs modenr Europeans proportionately!

[Fire Haired]

So, a lot of H mtDNA it seems.

Do you think H mtDNA largely came to Europe with Neolithic farmers!?

While there are Paleolithic H mtDNA in Europe it seems much more is U mtDNA vs modenr Europeans proportionately!

It is only 22 samples there is no doubt these are the ancestors of modern Sardinian people. They are very unique compared to other Europeans with high amount of I2a1a1a M26 at 37% and G2a both found in Neolithic western European remains. And their austomal DNA is most similar to Neolithic European samples. They really are the last of the European farmer race (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?96087-Sardine-the-last-of-the-European-farmer-race). Today they are tied with Iberia for the highest about of H1, H3, and V and overall for H so what there is so far from Nurgic culture is not a surprise at all. I think Sardinian peoples ancestors have been on the island since farming spread there.

[Gaston]

So, a lot of H mtDNA it seems.

Do you think H mtDNA largely came to Europe with Neolithic farmers!?

While there are Paleolithic H mtDNA in Europe it seems much more is U mtDNA vs modenr Europeans proportionately!

It's not yet settled but we know there is already mtdna H and V in Paleolithic Morocco and possibly Algeria.

[Fire Haired]

It's not yet settled but we know there is already mtdna H and V in Paleolithic Morocco and possibly Algeria.
You can look at Palaeolithic DNA (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?96556-Palaeolithic-DNA) and there is H from Palaeolithic Europe. Also H1 and H3 which take up about 30% of European H most likely originated in Europe over 15,000ybp.(chronology of European mtDNA (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?95836-Chronology-of-European-mtDNA))

[Artek]

You can look at Palaeolithic DNA (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?96556-Palaeolithic-DNA) and there is H from Palaeolithic Europe. Also H1 and H3 which take up about 30% of European H most likely originated in Europe over 15,000ybp.(chronology of European mtDNA (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?95836-Chronology-of-European-mtDNA))
Still, without more samples U haplogroups seems to have a widespread Paleolithic/Mesolithic character and H do not.

[Fire Haired]

Still, without more samples U haplogroups seems to have a widespread Paleolithic/Mesolithic character and H do not.

I never said it did not. What is most confusing is austomal DNA of these U( almost all underU5, U2, and U4) dominated hunter gathers austomal DNA shows really they are more European than any modern Europeans. I have no idea how they get austomal DNa results and how the whole admixture thing works but the tests I have seen that have a unequally European group it is distributed the same way. And always shows a connection with the distribution of fair hair and eyes in Europe. European palness without out a doubt comes from pre farming Europeans therefore most of modern Europeans ancestry. But why is the mtDNA so different it is so confusing.