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Sikeliot
10-13-2013, 04:25 PM
And I also counted how many of each I have.

Sicilians:
E1b1b -- 11
G2 -- 7
I1 -- 4
I2 -- 1
J1 -- 6
J2 -- 8
R -- 1
R1a -- 3
R1b -- 10
R2 -- 1
T -- 2
Total: 54



Greeks:
E1b1b -- 12
G2 -- 3
H1a -- 1
I2 -- 4
J1 -- 3
J2 -- 3
R1a -- 1
R1b -- 4
T -- 1
Total: 32



Portuguese:
E1b1b -- 1
I2 -- 1
J2 -- 3
R1b -- 12
Total: 17


Italians:
G2 -- 4
I2 -- 2
J1 -- 1
J2 -- 6
L -- 1
R1b -- 5
Total: 19
Black Wolf
10-13-2013, 11:21 PM
^Seems to make sense.
Sikeliot
10-13-2013, 11:29 PM
What is interesting to me is that there seems to be far less J2 and R1b amongst the Sicilians I share with than what studies suggest should be, and much less J2 in Greeks than what should be. Then again, J2 is only really common on the islands and not on the mainland.
Black Wolf
10-14-2013, 04:10 PM
^Yes when it comes to Greece J2 seems to be much more common on the islands such as Crete. Far less J2 and R1b among the Sicilians? J2 and R1b along with E1b1b seem to be the three dominant haplogroups you posted above for Sicilians which is in line with most studies.
Sikeliot
10-14-2013, 04:11 PM
Far less J2 and R1b among the Sicilians? J2 and R1b along with E1b1b seem to be the three dominant haplogroups you posted above for Sicilians which is in line with most studies.

Well in terms of raw number it is true, but J2 and R1b together should be about half of all the haplogroups, but here it only came to a third.
Black Wolf
10-14-2013, 08:00 PM
Well in terms of raw number it is true, but J2 and R1b together should be about half of all the haplogroups, but here it only came to a third.

Ahhh well it is what it is lol.
Sikeliot
10-14-2013, 11:55 PM
Ahhh well it is what it is lol.

I got another 2 people today who are paternally Sicilian -- they are a J1 and a T.
Sikeliot
10-15-2013, 09:54 PM
And a R1b now too.
DanielJ1eH
11-03-2014, 11:48 PM
Seems as though I'm not the only Italian with J1.

The European branch probably moved northward while the Arab branch didn't. It's Caucasoid in origin though I assume.
Black Wolf
11-04-2014, 11:24 PM
Seems as though I'm not the only Italian with J1.

The European branch probably moved northward while the Arab branch didn't. It's Caucasoid in origin though I assume.

J1 is present among Southern Italians certainly but at much lower percentages compared to its cousin J2. :)
DanielJ1eH
11-04-2014, 11:25 PM
It's present in Central Italians as well.