Blanka Vlasic to be classified

[Tony]

She's Croatian , something odd about her, nose job?

http://i.imgur.com/FmcqOiN.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/YOiXOuT.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/OuPaTAl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/P168JuF.jpg

[Mesrine]

Yup, nose job, without a doubt. I much prefered her old convex nose.

[Tabiti]

Dinarid?

[Tony]

Yup, nose job, without a doubt. I much prefered her old convex nose.
Me too , she lost personality after that , very stupid of her :mad:


Dinarid?
Probably an uberdinarid but I'm not sure , she's so bizzarre looking.

[Monolith]

Dinarid?
Dinaroid. ;)

Here's her father:

http://metro-portal.hr/img/repository/2009/05/web_image/vlasic_josko_crop_ds.jpg

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/8070/49752655.png



Probably an uberdinarid but I'm not sure , she's so bizzarre looking.
You think so? I think her looks can be found quite frequently in her native region, Dalmatia.

[Tony]

Dinaroid. ;)

You think so? I think her looks can be found quite frequently in her native region, Dalmatia.
I know that Monolith (and also I like that morphology) , but she's pretty extreme , I mean some Croatian woman may have a convex nose , someone else a skinny face , someone else a potruding jaw but she seems to have that characters all together , she's the most Dalmatian of all Dalmatians.

[Monolith]

I know that Monolith (and also I like that morphology) , but she's pretty extreme , I mean some Croatian woman may have a convex nose , someone else a skinny face , someone else a potruding jaw but she seems to have that characters all together , she's the most Dalmatian of all Dalmatians.
:D I wouldn't know about that (the Dalmatians themselves are not homogeneous), though I'm looking forward to see other replies to this thread.

[Agrippa]

Pred. Dinarid, other influences might be present but are hard to determine, I would guess rather Cromagnoid of some sort, could be something similar to Borreby or Balto-Cromagnoid. She is slightly Akromegaloid looking too (normal range) and definitely a nose job done on her, which doesnt make her look better, because of the rather low nasal height and midface, with an overall big face and low forehead, high upper lip.

[Crimson Guard]

Yes, the nose job as others have previously mentioned above makes her look even less attractive and more Alpo-Baltic. Otherwise for a classification, I would go with a Alpo-Dinaric type( but would not rule out possible east-Baltic/Uralic admixture instead of Alpine or maybe she's got both because of her ancestry).

[Monolith]

Yes, the nose job as others have previously mentioned above makes her look even less attractive and more Alpo-Baltic. Otherwise for a classification, I would go with a Alpo-Dinaric type( but would not rule out possible east-Baltic/Uralic admixture instead of Alpine or maybe she's got both because of her ancestry).
East Baltic? That's possible, given the frequency of such traits here. I don't think the Uralic admixture is very plausible.

[The Black Prince]

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/sports/images/attachement/jpg/site1/20070902/001aa018ff9c0844f85d0f.jpg

http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/7300000/beautiful-blanka-vlasic-7392083-800-1088.jpg

imho Dinarid (Noric type) + Mediterranid admixture.

[Crimson Guard]

Well, I am basing that more on that the East-Baltic type, which is a composte type in nature, composed in part with Lappish/Ladogan(the rest Nordic/Mediterranean? and Alpine) rather than directly Mongolid in most if not all cases usually. The Russian authors referred to Coon's "Neo-Danubian" type was "Uralic". But in Coon's later scheme he adapted Deniker' "Eastern-European" which included the East-Baltic of other authors and Neo-Danubans ect. Osteo-Europid(sp?) I believe some of the German authors referred to them as well if I am not mistaken.

In any event, she may not be Baltic at all:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/RomanSilverDenariusWithHeadOfCaptiveGaul48BCE.JPG
Roman silver Denarius with the head of captive Gaul 48 BC, following the campaigns of Caesar

http://i653.photobucket.com/albums/uu253/Tyranos/Gaul.jpg
A Roman sculpture of a Gallic chieftain

[Absinthe]

Pontid/dinarid -- :)

[Guapo]

Hot Noric/Adriatid. Looks like a buddy's wife. Her convex nose looks better on her.

[Svarogstan]

:D I wouldn't know about that (the Dalmatians themselves are not homogeneous), though I'm looking forward to see other replies to this thread.

I agree, Damatians are not homgeneous at all.

[Monolith]

I agree, Damatians are not homgeneous at all.
What's your opinion regarding the most common phenotypes there? I'm thinking people there are mostly Dinaric, followed by Noric, robust Mediterranid, Nordid and Alpine.

[Hussar]

..... I much prefered her old convex nose.


Absolutely. Who says that a convex nose is necessarily ugly on a face ? it's the general harmony the important thing. A single trait of face has to look natural with the whole portrait.





Pred. Dinarid, other influences might be present but are hard to determine, I would guess rather Cromagnoid of some sort, could be something similar to Borreby or Balto-Cromagnoid.


Let me guess.....you have the mpression to see something of vaguely northeuropid in her, uh ?

[Svarogstan]

What's your opinion regarding the most common phenotypes there? I'm thinking people there are mostly Dinaric, followed by Noric, robust Mediterranid, Nordid and Alpine.

It is difficult to tell the tourists from the locals on occassions as I am usually there in the summer but I think you have covered it very well.

[Agrippa]

If you look at her nose job in detail, the problem was not that the nose was made straight, but already rather concave and the tip reduced, the nose became to short. She would have probably looked somewhat better or as good if the nose job would have produced a straighter nose, rest untouched, but she got a snubby nose rather which is much too short for her midface and making her upper lip look even higher than it already is.

So you can't say that such a nose job makes a person look worse in general, it was her concrete manipulation which went wrong, be it her false decision or that of the doctor...

Some people seem to have no good understanding of general aesthetics and proportions, those are the worst - in some cases the doctor, in others the "patient" which has a distorted image of oneself.

[Hussar]

Some people seem to have no good understanding of general aesthetics and proportions, those are the worst - in some cases the doctor, in others the "patient" which has a distorted image of oneself.

Peoples (last generation) doesn't accept themselves anymore. The only thought is the eliminationof the detail thay don't like. No consideration of collateral estetic damage.

[Tony]

Absolutely. Who says that a convex nose is necessarily ugly on a face ? it's the general harmony the important thing. A single trait of face has to look natural with the whole portrait.
I have to remind you of your convex nose , it's a conflict of interest :D


by the way the more I look at Vlasic the more she remind me of a vampiress

http://i35.tinypic.com/33trw9l.jpg

[Hussar]

I have to remind you of your convex nose , it's a conflict of interest :D



I forgot it's convex, when i wrote what i wrote.


Ths girl has a convex nose too (not much more than mine) but it's very pretty on her :


http://i38.tinypic.com/1z48ls9.png

[Monolith]

If you look at her nose job in detail, the problem was not that the nose was made straight, but already rather concave and the tip reduced, the nose became to short. She would have probably looked somewhat better or as good if the nose job would have produced a straighter nose, rest untouched, but she got a snubby nose rather which is much too short for her midface and making her upper lip look even higher than it already is.
A medicine student once told me that such errors are usually done on purpose, as the nose itself has a tendency of coming back to its original state, at least partially anyway.

[Agrippa]

A medicine student once told me that such errors are usually done on purpose, as the nose itself has a tendency of coming back to its original state, at least partially anyway.

Even if, they gone too far in her case for sure. But interesting possibility.

As for Hussars example:
Her nose is more straight and has a rather wavy profile in comparison. I can like convex noses on females and on males they can look dominant-progressive anyway if they fit into the whole picture. Iranids have often very refined features with a convex nose f.e.

[Hussar]

As for Hussars example:
Her nose is more straight and has a rather wavy profile in comparison.


The difference you detect is the normal difference between the softened feminine traits and the males's ones. (besides the photo i have in my avatar isn't a precise "profile" rather angled and the light emphatizes the convexity)




I can like convex noses on females and on males they can look dominant-progressive anyway if they fit into the whole picture. Iranids have often very refined features with a convex nose f.e.

Agreed.

[safinator]

Baltid-Gorid

[Lemon Kush]

Dinarid.