Porn stars speak out about the reality of the porn industry

[Kazimiera]

Brenn Wynson

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“I am Brenn Wyson former kink gay porn star. What I can say? What goes on behind closed doors is a lot a sex abuse in way of transmitting HIV, HEP and whatever STD will snake there way in the the doors of Kink.com. The stars working at kink.com, making money will never disclose their bad behavior and the porn stars they throw to the trash. The drugs the lies the penis injections, which is against the law in San Fran to give to a porn star. But the are sure willing to stick your genitals to get the job done. I know what goes on behind closed doors and its sick, unsafe and your life is one the line. Trust me Kink.com will talk shit about you If you have a mouth to speak. I know because It happened to me. Its has taken me a long time to get my real career back and make an honest living. You never want to become a porn star because all the main porn companies will lie to you. Now I have to deal with Hep C, As a boxer this has been a damper on my life. I’m still a fighter and have recreated my life. Hopefully I can redirect others into stepping on the devils tale in the palace of porn."


Danielle Williams

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A female porm star that'd been in the industry for a while had excessive anal intercourse and a piece of her muscle from her anus fell out on set while she was filming. Some females damaged their reproductive systems which left them unable to have children. A male porn star broke the muscle in his penis because he was having abnormal and outragous rough sex. I found that a male porn star who was in the business for a while was a devil worshipper. Both male and female porn stars were committing suicide. A lot of the porn stars were known to go overseas and do beastiality in porn. (Sleeping with animals.) Shortly after that, a numerous amount of people starting turning up with diseases, Herpes to be exact.

Herpes! They will let you work with it! - excerpt from Danielle's book, "From Porn to the Pulpit" - page 98


Ashlyn Brooke

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I honestly felt that if I had to have another strange man in my face, his hands (God knows where they've been all over me) him calling me his baby and having to exude some sort of forged passion for the world to see, I probably would have exploded. And what would have been stuck to the walls would have probably been nothing, just pieces of skin, bone, the brain of a robot, and what would have been left of what would have existed once as a huge and warm heart.


Linda Lovelace

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Linda Lovelace has much to say about her pornographer: "When in response to his suggestions I let him know I would not become involved in prostitution in any way and told him I intended to leave, [Traynor] beat me up physically and the constant mental abuse began. I literally became a prisoner, I was not allowed out of his sight, not even to use the bathroom, where he watched me through a hole in... the door. He slept on top of me at night, he listened to my telephone calls with a .45 automatic eight shot pointed at me. I was beaten physically and suffered mental abuse each and every day thereafter. He undermined my ties with other people and forced me to marry him on advice from his lawyer."

"My initiation into prostitution was a gang rape by five men, arranged by Mr. Traynor. It was the turning point in my life. He threatened to shoot me with the pistol if I didn't go through with it. I had never experienced anal sex before and it ripped me apart. They treated me like an inflatable plastic doll, picking me up and moving me here and there. They spread my legs this way and that, shoving their things at me and into me, they were playing musical chairs with parts of my body. I have never been so frightened and disgraced and humiliated in my life. I felt like garbage. I engaged in sex acts for pornography against my will to avoid being killed.The lives of my family were threatened."


Corina Taylor

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"When I arrived to the set I expected to do a vaginal girl boy scene. But during the scene with a male porn star, he forced himself anally into me and would not stop. I yelled at him to stop and screamed 'No' over and over but he would not stop. The pain became too much and I was in shock and my body went limp."


Roxy

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"After only 30 movies I caught two sexually transmitted diseases. Herpes, a non-curable disease and HPV, which led to cervical cancer where I had to have half of my cervix removed. Porn destroyed my life."


Jenna Jameson

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"Most girls get their first experience in gonzo films – in which they’re taken to a crappy studio apartment in Mission Hills and penetrated in every hole possible by some abusive asshole who thinks her name is Bitch. And these girls, some of whom have the potential to become major stars in the industry, go home afterward and pledge never to do it again because it was such a terrible experience.”


Anita Cannibal

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"I have been a performer now for 14 years in the adult film industry in many countries, states . . . all over the place. I have worked for most of these companies, and I was around for the once-a-month HIV-positive outbreak in ’98. Yes, I was, and I got to see those performers that nobody knows about—that nobody claims that got HIV, that are not a part of the statistics—walk out the door as non-performers, not to be counted."

"Yeah, there are a lot of cover-ups going on. There is a lot of tragedy. There are a lot of horrible things."


Stephanie Swift

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"I was sexually abused the first time by my step grandfather on my dad's side and the second time by my actual stepdad so my sexuality was messed up from the beginning. I created another personality that was in complete control and didn't have those things happen and didn't have to deal with the pain. The industry is not a real accomplishment. It's just a false sense of accomplishment. It covers everything up for what it is."


Belladonna

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“I like to hide — hide everything, you know?... And I'm not happy... I don't like myself at all... My whole entire body feels it when I'm doing it and... I feel so — so gross.”


Andi Anderson

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"After a year or so of that so-called “glamorous” life, I sadly discovered that drugs and drinking were a part of the lifestyle. I began to drink and party out of control! Cocaine, alcohol and ecstasy were my favorites. Before long, I turned into a person I did not want to be. After doing so many hardcore scenes I couldn’t do it anymore. I just remember being in horrible situations and experiencing extreme depression and being alone and sad." - Andi Anderson


Lucky Starr

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"I was worried about my first anal scene for quite a few days ... then the big moment arrived. It REALLY hurt! I almost quit and said, "I can’t do this". When it was all over, I was so happy and relieved I was able to do it. But I still have to think if I want to do anal on a regular basis. It did hurt a lot! So will I continue to do anal? Let’s wait for my butt to heal, then we’ll talk."


Alexa Milano

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My first movie I was treated very rough by 3 guys. They pounded on me, gagged me with their penises, and tossed me around like I was a ball! I was sore, hurting and could barely walk. My insides burned and hurt so badly. I could barely pee and to try to have a bowel movement was out of the question. I was hurting so bad from the physical abuse from these 3 male porn stars! - Alexa Milano


Jessie Jewels

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"People in the porn industry are numb to real life and are like zombies walking around. The abuse that goes on in this industry is completely ridiculous. The way these young ladies are treated is totally sick and brainwashing. I left due to the trauma I experienced even though I was there only a short time." - Jessie Jewels


Jersey Jaxin

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"Guys punching you in the face. You have semen from many guys all over your face, in your eyes. You get ripped. Your insides can come out of you. It's never ending." - Jersey Jaxin


Tamra Toryn

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"As for myself, I ended up paying the price from working in the porn industry. In 2006, not even 9 months in, I caught a moderate form of dysplasia of the cervix(which is a form of HPV, a sexually transmitted disease) and later that day, I also found out I was pregnant. I had only 1 choice which was to abort the baby during my first month. It was extremely painful emotionally and physically. When it was all over, I cried my eyes out."- Tamra Toryn


Elizabeth Rollings

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"I didn’t want to feel the pain of penetration from an over average sized man, being told to freeze in a position until the camera man was happy with his shots was very painful. I had peoples body fluids forced on my face or anywhere else the producer pleased and I had to accept it or else no pay. Sometimes you would get to a gig and the producer would change what the scene was supposed to be to something more intense and again if you didn’t like it, too bad, you did it or no pay." - Elizabeth Rollings


Becca Brat

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I hung out with a lot of people in the Adult industry, everybody from contract girls to gonzo actresses. Everybody has the same problems. Everybody is on drugs. It's an empty lifestyle trying to fill up a void."

"I became horribly addicted to heroin and crack. I overdosed at least 3 times, had tricks pull knives on me, have been beaten half to death- the only reason I am still here is God. - Becca Brat


Lara Roxx

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“We should think about these issues right now, to change stuff around to make this a safer f**kin’ business. It isn’t a safe business, and I thought it was, and I would have not did that scene with no condom with Darren James if it would have crossed my mind that those tests weren’t good and that I couldn’t trust him or the people he’s been with. I thought porn people were the cleanest people in the world, is what I thought.” - Lara Roxx, diagnosed with HIV in April, 2004 along with four other porn stars.

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Source: https://www.shelleylubben.com/pornstars?page=2

[1stLightHorse]

Lolz Kaz, this is exactly what i was thinking about making a thread of this morning...no shitting you. :D

Are you a mind-reader by any chance? :p

But on a serious note: The suicide, the PTSD, the disease, the depression/anxiety, the hopelessness...When i found this out, it was enough for me to develop a healthy hatred for this industry. I don't know how anyone could endorse watching a woman, or man putting themselves through these things knowing that it is someone's son/father/brother/uncle, or daughter/mother/sister/aunt, etc etc.

Not only this, but really i think the most evil thing is taking advantage of individuals for money, many of whom come from the worst kind of of abusive backgrounds imaginable.

[Kazimiera]

We have telepathy. It is an industry which needs to be stopped at all costs. Very sad :(

[Hayalet]

^ Why does it need to be stopped instead of better regulated?

[KidMulat]

The guys who own the studios are f*cking pigs most of the time especially as you get into the transsexual and or black and or "used up" categories.

But they can be good sometimes however the money isn't always good or its hard to get a contract.

[Ozzy]

Wow, people literally had their insides falling out? Dat sheihh bee craz mang

Seriously, though, why do people do this to themselves?

[Ozzy]

The guys who own the studios are f*cking pigs most of the time especially as you get into the transsexual and or black and or "used up" categories.

But they can be good sometimes however the money isn't always good or its hard to get a contract.

You speaking from experience, son?

[afrotaino]

This ever happen Sadly But the most people keep on watching porn film

[gregorius]

pornstars.......hawt

[Hadouken]

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[Maleficent]

The original post of this thread made me feel :puke: :sick:

[Black Wolf]

I dunno from a lot of the videos I have watched the girls seems like it quite a bit lol.

[lei.talk]

Seriously, though, why do people [choose to] do this to themselves?
for the same reason that any one chooses
any form of slow-motion suicide - instead of health, wealth and wisdom:

the self-hatred that emulates the parental neglect/abuse they endured
during the formative years in which they might have developed self-love/respect.

it is the psychological form of "failure to thrive". :tsk:

[Han Cholo]

I dunno from a lot of the videos I have watched the girls seems like it quite a bit lol.

It's staged.

[Loki]

Very sick. Most glad porn looks rather fakish to me anyway - and it's because everything is fake, including [many of] the orgasms.

This is woman abuse on the same level of what is happening in certain Muslim countries, only at the other side of the spectrum.

[Hayalet]

You will find abuse in any sort of work. Most of these problems would be eliminated with better regulation and perhaps some sort of a trade union.

[Corvus]

Porn is fraud and it does not reflect reality. This is no revelation.
Ofc it also has negative mental implications on the minds of the actors as well as the viewers.
The only good aspect of porn is that it can teach how to have different ways of sex and positions.
But therefore only few clips are sufficent.

[Corvus]

I dunno from a lot of the videos I have watched the girls seems like it quite a bit lol.

Women enjoy normal classic sex, many even more than men. But not these degrading things which are done in some porns.

[Black Wolf]

Well I have seen some who genuinely seem to enjoy it. Obviously I am not saying that all do...People come in all varieties.

[morski]

I need to read from Mary before I make my mind on this one.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

We have telepathy. It is an industry which needs to be stopped at all costs. Very sad :(

These girls chose to be in the films. They're attractive women and so it's not like they couldn't get jobs as waitresses, bartenders, strippers, etc. They made their choice because they liked the money. If they regret it later that's too bad but like anything in life choices have consequences. If they were fooled into the life, they should have researched it first before taking a shot.

The spread of HIV in porn can be blamed on male actors who do both straight porn and gay for pay as well as bisexual men who hire these men and women as escorts. In the past and probably now to some degree some male actors jumped back and forth between straight and gay films. Men get paid far better in gay porn.

It's very difficult to get HIV. Anal sex, blood transfusion (never a cause anymore because of screening), and sharing needles with an HIV infected person is how you typically get HIV. The tissue around the anus is sensitive and can be easily torn during anal sex. This allows for infection and hence why HIV/AIDS effects gay men at disproportionate numbers.

[Empecinado]

Girls who end up doing porn already had mental issues before getting into such industry, due being raped, serious family problems or any mental illness not caused by an external circumstance. A healthy minded girl never will do it.

The same goes with prostitutes (well, porn actress are prostitutes as they have a sex in exchange for money).

[Mortimer]

very sad. i will trie not to watch porn anymore. since long it is in my mind that porn is bad, but i still use to watch it sometimes. it is the instinct and sexual desire. when i have a boner and am horny i watch it to fapp. how can i prevent it?

[Accountant]

very sad. i will trie not to watch porn anymore. since long it is in my mind that porn is bad, but i still use to watch it sometimes. it is the instinct and sexual desire. when i have a boner and am horny i watch it to fapp. how can i prevent it?

Get a girlfriend or improve your self control. I'm not sure whether the latter can be achieved or are you just born with it, but you can always try.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

very sad. i will trie not to watch porn anymore. since long it is in my mind that porn is bad, but i still use to watch it sometimes. it is the instinct and sexual desire. when i have a boner and am horny i watch it to fapp. how can i prevent it?

You're still going to watch porn.

If I had decided to become a porn producer none of that stuff would have gone on. I wouldn't accept anyone with a heroin addiction. It's not difficult to find out. They nod off and of course they have track marks. I'd only allow anal sex with a condom and wouldn't demand anything from them they didn't want to do (however, the more "exotic" the act the more money; an incentive). I'd play fair with these girls and so they'd want to sign up with me. I wouldn't even have sex with them, which is typical of porn producers. They sleep with them first before allowing them to be on film because men are, um, men but that creates an environment where there is no trust. Despite the temptation I wouldn't want to build a working relationship with someone who resented me. Despite the fact I'm totally attractive and every woman naturally wants to have sex with me or they're butch lesbians a woman who feels forced into sex to move ahead in achieving her goal is going to be resentful. You can't build a good working relationship with that baggage.

[Breedingvariety]

As Schopenhauer said: " Everyone ultimately reaches port with masts and rigging gone". Some sooner rather than later.

They chose to do porn. They were not forced. If conditions are unsatisfactory, they can leave porn scene. And many do.

Now, why do they choose to do it? I have no idea. If they do it for money, then most jobs have negatives attached. If it is a symptom of sick society, then society should change to eliminate it. By artificial prohibition, victims of sickness are punished. If their actions signify their moral depravity, then negatives are karma working. They may wanna die but are afraid to suicide, then indulgence is the compromise. Drugs to sex or sex to drugs are paths of down going.

[Corvus]

very sad. i will trie not to watch porn anymore. since long it is in my mind that porn is bad, but i still use to watch it sometimes. it is the instinct and sexual desire. when i have a boner and am horny i watch it to fapp. how can i prevent it?

Use your imagination. Always bear in mind. Porn can cause erectil dysfunction.
You are already above 30 years of age, so be careful

[Caismeachd]

These people have mental problems and it's easy for them not to take accountability for their own choices and to play a victim role when their time in the Porn spotlight has run out. I don't have any sympathy for them. Life is hard for most people.

[Hadouken]

These people have mental problems and it's easy for them not to take accountability for their own choices and to play a victim role when their time in the Porn spotlight has run out. I don't have any sympathy for them. Life is hard for most people.

agree completely

after 1-2 movies when they see how it works they could stop but they do 10000 movies and then they complain ? lol

[Kazimiera]

The Industry's Dirty Little Secret

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To viewers, pornography can appear a fantasy world of pleasure and thrills. To those who create and participate in making pornography, however, their experiences are often flooded with drugs, disease, rape and abuse. It’s not easy to know all the gritty details until someone with personal experience in the industry takes a step forward because the industry purposefully keeps it as secretive as possible. Here are some statements made by former porn stars.

“I got the *&%$ kicked out of me… most of the girls start crying because they’re hurting so bad… I couldn’t breathe. I was being hit and choked. I was really upset and they didn’t stop. They kept filming. [I asked them to turn the camera off] and they kept going." - Regan Starr

In order to prevent the police and the public from finding this out, however, it’s common for pornographers to intimidate or use blackmail as a weapon to silence the participants. Many former porn stars talk about being booked to do a scene and conditions would be changed on the spot, which often led to uncomfortable, abusive experiences. In a very real way, then, porn stars get treated like convenient cattle. They are lied to by the industries “doctors” about the prevalence of STDs (Sexually Transmitted Diseases) and the majority abuse drugs to cope with their emotionally deteriorating lives.

"You’re viewed as an object and not as a human with a spirit. People don’t care. People do drugs because they can’t deal with the way they are being treated… Seventy-five percent (of porn stars)... are using drugs. They have to numb themselves. There are specific doctors in this industry that if you go in for a common cold they’ll give you Vicodin, Viagra, anything you want because all they care about is the money. You are a number… You have to numb yourself to go on set. The more you work, the more you have to numb yourself. ” - Jersey Jaxin

Working in pornography isn’t the dream job that pornographers want people to believe. And yet because the industry is legally recognized by the government, there is a false sense of security that comes. Not everyone knows about these dirty secrets. The industry even employs their own doctors to supposedly watch over the actors and actresses. Monthly check ups are not sufficient when actors can have multiple shoots with multiple partners in one day. STD’s are a serious issue in the porn industry.

“When I was in the industry, the fear of bodily fluids… was absolutely disregarded… There is no protection or hygiene at all. We weren’t allowed to use condoms. The constant spreading of germs and disease ridden materials is not even considered by the employees of the production companies… (Props, furniture, ‘cleaning’ towels, etc. are) not thoroughly sanitized and or sterilized. That is unsanitary and completely unsafe.” - Trent Roe

Okay so we have rape, coercion, and preventable diseases … what else happens? Oh, just sex trafficking (a.k.a. modern slavery for the sexual purposes), that’s what. You might be thinking, “Wait, that really happens?” Sadly, yes. Sex Trafficking is a $32 billion annual industry. According to the U.N., over 9.7 million people around the world are ensnared in sex slavery at any given time. Guess what the majority of those individuals are forced into doing? You guessed… porn. Their lives are threatened if they don’t make it look like they are there by choice and enjoying what they are doing. That means that millions of men and women, boys and girls all over think they are viewing ‘harmless porn’ when in fact they are literally watching someone being forced against their will to participate in sexual acts.

“I literally became a prisoner, I was not allowed out of his sight, not even to use the bathroom, where he watched me through a hole in the door. He slept on top of me at night, he listened to my telephone calls with a .45 automatic eight shot pointed at me.” - Linda Lovelace

It’s hard to imagine, but could it get any worse? Unfortunately, it can and does. One actress was reported missing after a film session. A month later she was found with multiple stab wounds—with DNA evidence tying the murder to her photographer. Some might think, “That kind of thing happens all over… not just in the pornography industry.” That’s true. However, these stories and testimonies from ex-porn stars are coming out more and more. Some that have escaped have even dedicated their life to speaking out against the industry.

At Fight the New Drug we have received several emails from former porn stars telling us their story. Nearly all of them ask that we keep their identity secret. Here is an example of one of those emails:

“I speak from experience to say there are victims and survivors who have been drugged and forced into this ugliness against their wills? I realize that this statement flies in the face of the mainstream stereotypical mono-thought mentality that porn is voluntary and that 'she likes it', 'she asked for it', 'she chose it'. Although that may be true for some, many are coerced into agreeing with whatever our pornographer says just to stay alive. We have been humiliated beyond description and carry that with us 24/7. Our minds are numbed and in many cases drugged into stupor or amnesia for the painful tearing at our bodies and souls just to be filmed, forever recorded for someone’s sick fantasy to come alive for momentary gratification.

Somewhere in the mix of this atrocity is the understanding that to film a child in a vile or suggestive way is horrendous, but to think that one can film a young woman or adult woman against their will is to believe 'she wants it'. Somewhere in the mix of this is the unspeakable horror of women being filmed while being killed slowly. 'She likes it'??? In the last several years access to inhibitory drugs makes this horror a regular reality and can be attested to by clips on the internet, police investigations, testimonies of survivors, counselors, etc. I can speak of this because I (as well as the other young women filmed during the same time) was drugged before each filming. Sometimes it was with an amnesiac, sometimes with a paralyzing drug, sometimes with pain blockers, and sometimes a crazy combination of all of the above.

We lie to cover up the truth much the same way the victim of domestic abuse lies, conceals, and hides. We do not have the words to speak out because our pain is too graphic and it is next to impossible to describe what happened to us because of the mainstream mentality. We are met with dismissals and denials, with excuses and the rejection statement, 'that could not have happened, because the girls and women look like they enjoy what is happening to them.' Some of us have succumbed to more drug addictions, some to insanity, some to crippling isolation, and some to death.” - Anonymous

Wow. Doesn’t that make you feel a little sick to your stomach? Not only does pornography have harmful effects on the user but the industry itself and those that participate deal with near unspeakable harm to their bodies as well as their souls. The industry’s efforts to portray an atmosphere of glamor, fame, and fortune have allowed them to get away with illegal, unethical, and corrupt behavior. Doesn’t knowing this about the pornography industry make you think twice about using? We think if the truth about the industry was more known that many people would second-guess their habit of supporting a dirty industry.


Source: http://www.fightthenewdrug.org/blog/The-Industrys-Dirty-Little-Secret/

[Kazimiera]

Former Porn Actress Shelley Lubben: Porn is Not Glamorous and Destroys Lives — “I used to brag endlessly to fans and pornographers about how I loved making porn movies. I lied 100% of the time to 100% of the people”

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Many believe the widespread fairytale that women enjoy making porn movies but the truth is there are no happy endings for the women of porn. Women do NOT enjoy making porn movies and a closer behind-the-scenes look will show you several reasons why.

In the world of hardcore sex, an average day on the set for a porn actress is a long and tedious process. Women are told to come in around 8 am for makeup but it’s only to make sure porn actresses arrive on time to work. Porn stars have a nasty habit of arriving late because they’re often hung over from drugs or alcohol from the night before.

After make up, porn actresses usually wait around long hours until it’s their turn to do their scene. Some scenes take an hour and some take several hours to film. It really depends if the male actor in the first scene could “perform” or not. It also depends if female actresses have to stop the clock because they can’t handle the pain of a hardcore sex scene.

While waiting around, jaded porn performers usually end up in the rest rooms with bottles of alcohol and lines of speed or outside in their cars for a heroin fix or gathered in the back yard with other actors to smoke marijuana.

To add to the mind-numbing process, women are never able to experience sexual pleasure because of the continuous cutting during sex scenes. In the background the director constantly yells, “cut” and the flow of action is interrupted in order to get a better shot, adjust lighting or to wipe up bodily fluids. Repeatedly pornographers stop scenes and ask actors to “freeze” in position during very hardcore sex acts, which causes great physical and emotional pain for porn actresses.

I speak from personal experience when I say to be in the middle of a hardcore sex act with several actors at the same time and told to “freeze” in position for several minutes while lighting or cameras are adjusted is extremely painful and degrading. It’s also very humiliating when scenes are stopped in order to wipe up bodily fluids such as semen, feces and blood.

Despite the fact women do not enjoy making porn movies, they continue to lie to their fans and proudly insist they enjoy making porn movies. Of course they do. They get paid hundreds and thousands of dollars to lie because this is their occupation. Porn stars are paid professional liars who know how to “act” and they do it well. In fact, because porn stars spend a great deal time in front of the camera and never step out of character, they usually have greater acting abilities than mainstream Hollywood actors.

I used to brag endlessly to fans and pornographers about my extreme “Italian” sex drive and how I loved making porn movies. I would go on and on about how I needed more and more to fulfill my insatiable appetite. I lied 100% of the time to 100% of the people. Lying is the native language of porn stars because they can’t afford to tell you the truth. Not only would it ruin the fantasy for their fans but more importantly, it would ruin the amount of their paychecks. Don’t believe porn actresses when they proudly proclaim they enjoy making porn movies. They’re ACTING.


Source: http://tobefree.wordpress.com/2009/05/15/former-porn-actress-shelley-lubben-porn-is-not-glamorous-and-destroys-lives-%E2%80%94-i-used-to-brag-endlessly-to-fans-and-pornographers-about-how-i-loved-making-porn-movies-i-lied-100-of-the-time/

[Aerin]

It's kinda hard to me to feel sorry for these women. I understand that sometimes, after they've started doing porn, they can't get out, because someone forces them to stay. But maybe they shouldn't start doing it in the first place. No one forces them into the industry. It's their fault if they think it's a good idea to become porn actresses.

[Kazimiera]

It's kinda hard to me to feel sorry for these women. I understand that sometimes, after they've started doing porn, they can't get out, because someone forces them to stay. But maybe they shouldn't start doing it in the first place. No one forces them into the industry. It's their fault if they think it's a good idea to become porn actresses.

People make stupid decisions sometimes. We all make stupid decisions, but some people's are just more stupid than others. From the outside it looks like a glamourous lifestyle, and this is what these girls are after. And money. In the beginning it all seems quite wonderful until the hard reality sets in. Either way, this is human trafficking.

Its the same for all those East European girls, who are promised these fantastic careers as strippers, who go for it because they need the money (perhaps for a family member). They have their passports taken away and are forced to be prostitutes. They are beaten and raped. Not much different from the porn "stars", or should one rather say porn "slaves".

Regardless of whether one feels sorry for them for making stupid decisions when they are younger, nobody should be FORCED to do this.

[Aerin]

People make stupid decisions sometimes. We all make stupid decisions, but some people's are just more stupid than others. From the outside it looks like a glamourous lifestyle, and this is what these girls are after. And money. In the beginning it all seems quite wonderful until the hard reality sets in. Either way, this is human trafficking.

Its the same for all those East European girls, who are promised these fantastic careers as strippers, who go for it because they need the money (perhaps for a family member). They have their passports taken away and are forced to be prostitutes. They are beaten and raped. Not much different from the porn "stars", or should one rather say porn "slaves".

Regardless of whether one feels sorry for them for making stupid decisions when they are younger, nobody should be FORCED to do this.

True, maybe I shouldn't judge them so harshly. It's just hard for me to imagine myself doing something as degrading as porn. But I guess everyone makes mistakes.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

People make stupid decisions sometimes. We all make stupid decisions, but some people's are just more stupid than others. From the outside it looks like a glamourous lifestyle, and this is what these girls are after. And money. In the beginning it all seems quite wonderful until the hard reality sets in. Either way, this is human trafficking.

It's not the equivalent of human trafficking. These girls aren't forced to stay.

I don't see how the life looks glamorous to a woman. Having a load of cum shot on your face or having your ass pounded in by a guy with an 8 inch penis doesn't appear glamorous at all. They want the money.


Its the same for all those East European girls, who are promised these fantastic careers as strippers, who go for it because they need the money (perhaps for a family member). They have their passports taken away and are forced to be prostitutes. They are beaten and raped. Not much different from the porn "stars", or should one rather say porn "slaves".

It's not the same at all. There is no force being used to keep these women from leaving the porn industry. All the former porn stars you commented on here talked about drug addiction but they didn't say they were held at gun point.


Regardless of whether one feels sorry for them for making stupid decisions when they are younger, nobody should be FORCED to do this.

If told "do this anal scene or you're out of a job" they can choose not to do it and find some other form of employment. This isn't like a prostitute who has a pimp holding all her money so she doesn't leave him.

[Kazimiera]

It's not the equivalent of human trafficking. These girls aren't forced to stay.

It's not the same at all. There is no force being used to keep these women from leaving the porn industry. All the former porn stars you commented on here talked about drug addiction but they didn't say they were held at gun point.

"When in response to his suggestions I let him know I would not become involved in prostitution in any way and told him I intended to leave, [Traynor] beat me up physically and the constant mental abuse began. I literally became a prisoner, I was not allowed out of his sight, not even to use the bathroom, where he watched me through a hole in... the door. He slept on top of me at night, he listened to my telephone calls with a .45 automatic eight shot pointed at me. I was beaten physically and suffered mental abuse each and every day thereafter. He undermined my ties with other people and forced me to marry him on advice from his lawyer."

I'd say that this is force?



I don't see how the life looks glamorous to a woman. Having a load of cum shot on your face or having your ass pounded in by a guy with an 8 inch penis doesn't appear glamorous at all. They want the money.

Different people have differing ideas of "glamourous". Imagine a young girl, an insecure girl, who is basically guaranteed men across the world drooling all over her. Dreaming about her. Buying her films. Different ideas of glamourous.


If told "do this anal scene or you're out of a job" they can choose not to do it and find some other form of employment. This isn't like a prostitute who has a pimp holding all her money so she doesn't leave him.

I don't know, Frank. The whole industry just seems extremely corrupt to me.

[alb0zfinest]

This is really sad. I was surprised how many of them spoke about being abused.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

"When in response to his suggestions I let him know I would not become involved in prostitution in any way and told him I intended to leave, [Traynor] beat me up physically and the constant mental abuse began. I literally became a prisoner, I was not allowed out of his sight, not even to use the bathroom, where he watched me through a hole in... the door. He slept on top of me at night, he listened to my telephone calls with a .45 automatic eight shot pointed at me. I was beaten physically and suffered mental abuse each and every day thereafter. He undermined my ties with other people and forced me to marry him on advice from his lawyer."

I'd say that this is force?

That's the woman from "Deep Throat." Deep Throat was produced with mafia money back in the 70s. The guy who forced her into porn (supposedly) was her boyfriend at the time. None of the other girls have a similar story.





Different people have differing ideas of "glamourous". Imagine a young girl, an insecure girl, who is basically guaranteed men across the world drooling all over her. Dreaming about her. Buying her films. Different ideas of glamourous.

If she's attractive men drool over her already. It would be difficult for an attractive woman not to know she's wanted by men. I can agree many of these women come from broken homes with abuse but so do many other attractive women who don't go into porn.




I don't know, Frank. The whole industry just seems extremely corrupt to me.

It certainly is corrupt but when you willingly deal with the devil you can't complain you got burned later.

[Kazimiera]

When I say that some people have differing ideas of glamour, I mean the following.

Imagine a girl (and there are hundreds of thousands) who from a young age are sexually abused at home. A pre-teen or teen knows very little about the outside world. The home is her life, and when at home she is exposed to sex on a regular basis, the child becomes sexualised. Equates sex with acceptance and love. And this draws itself in the teenage years. You cannot expect someone from an dysfunctional home life to be a well-adjusted and balanced person.

[Kazimiera]

It's kinda hard to me to feel sorry for these women. I understand that sometimes, after they've started doing porn, they can't get out, because someone forces them to stay. But maybe they shouldn't start doing it in the first place. No one forces them into the industry. It's their fault if they think it's a good idea to become porn actresses.

I find it sad how many women are unsympathetic to the plight of other women. :(

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

When I say that some people have differing ideas of glamour, I mean the following.

Imagine a girl (and there are hundreds of thousands) who from a young age are sexually abused at home. A pre-teen or teen knows very little about the outside world. The home is her life, and when at home she is exposed to sex on a regular basis, the child becomes sexualised. Equates sex with acceptance and love. And this draws itself in the teenage years. You cannot expect someone from an dysfunctional home life to be a well-adjusted and balanced person.

Many people have fucked up childhoods. Do we treat all adults like children because unfortunately some are not well adjusted? We can't have a society like that. Once we start telling people their consent is irrelevant to what some people.... somewhere... who doesn't even know the person... decide is good for them... we all become children with a "parent" (the government) who uses force (negating our consent by threat of incarceration) to get us to comply.

Every action has consequences and yes unfortunately there are people who are not well adjusted. However, we live in an imperfect world and you can't make it perfect by restricting people from making choices. People are going to make bad choices, regardless if they have a fucked up childhood. You can't protect people from themselves without hurting society as a whole. It's a slippery slope when some outside force dictates when we can be adults and when our consent is no better than that of a child to be rejected. We need to treat adults as adults and if this means some people ruin their lives, for whatever reason, then so be it. The reverse is much more dangerous

[Aerin]

I find it sad how many women are unsympathetic to the plight of other women. :(

I'd feel sad for them if they were put in a situation of suffering against their will. They're not. They willingly enter the industry, and they do it because of futile things like money and fame. They have no self-respect.

[Kazimiera]

Many people have fucked up childhoods. Do we treat all adults like children because unfortunately some are not well adjusted? We can't have a society like that. Once we start telling people their consent is irrelevant to what some people.... somewhere... who doesn't even know the person... decide is good for them... we all become children with a "parent" (the government) who uses force (negating our consent by threat of incarceration) to get us to comply.

Every action has consequences and yes unfortunately there are people who are not well adjusted. However, we live in an imperfect world and you can't make it perfect by restricting people from making choices. People are going to make bad choices, regardless if they have a fucked up childhood. You simply protect people from themselves without hurting society as a whole. It's a slippery slope when some outside force dictates when we can be adults and when our consent is no better than that of a child that be rejected. We need to treat adults as adults and if this means some people ruin their lives, for whatever reason, then so be it. The reverse is much more dangerous

I know Frank. In many aspects you are right. But some parts of me are very idealistic. Not necessarily practical, but idealistic.

[Incal]

Many people have fucked up childhoods. Do we treat all adults like children because unfortunately some are not well adjusted? We can't have a society like that. Once we start telling people their consent is irrelevant to what some people.... somewhere... who doesn't even know the person... decide is good for them... we all become children with a "parent" (the government) who uses force (negating our consent by threat of incarceration) to get us to comply.

Every action has consequences and yes unfortunately there are people who are not well adjusted. However, we live in an imperfect world and you can't make it perfect by restricting people from making choices. People are going to make bad choices, regardless if they have a fucked up childhood. You can't protect people from themselves without hurting society as a whole. It's a slippery slope when some outside force dictates when we can be adults and when our consent is no better than that of a child to be rejected. We need to treat adults as adults and if this means some people ruin their lives, for whatever reason, then so be it. The reverse is much more dangerous

I agree with this word by word.

[Germaniac]

Porn is a huge social problem to both porn stars and viewers. To the pornstars, I need not say a word, as it has been said already, and for the viewers, it creates false expectations, and also can make them numb to RL stimuli.

[Lurker]

Danielle Williams

https://www.shelleylubben.com/sites/default/files/styles/square_120/public/danielle-teaser120px.jpg

A female porm star that'd been in the industry for a while had excessive anal intercourse and a piece of her muscle from her anus fell out on set while she was filming. Some females damaged their reproductive systems which left them unable to have children. A male porn star broke the muscle in his penis because he was having abnormal and outragous rough sex. I found that a male porn star who was in the business for a while was a devil worshipper. Both male and female porn stars were committing suicide. A lot of the porn stars were known to go overseas and do beastiality in porn. (Sleeping with animals.) Shortly after that, a numerous amount of people starting turning up with diseases, Herpes to be exact.

Herpes! They will let you work with it! - excerpt from Danielle's book, "From Porn to the Pulpit" - page 98




This woman is bigoted. Satanist Americans deserve as much respect as any other people. What happened to freedom of religion in the US?

[Lurker]

These girls chose to be in the films. They're attractive women and so it's not like they couldn't get jobs as waitresses, bartenders, strippers, etc. They made their choice because they liked the money. If they regret it later that's too bad but like anything in life choices have consequences. If they were fooled into the life, they should have researched it first before taking a shot.

The spread of HIV in porn can be blamed on male actors who do both straight porn and gay for pay as well as bisexual men who hire these men and women as escorts. In the past and probably now to some degree some male actors jumped back and forth between straight and gay films. Men get paid far better in gay porn.

It's very difficult to get HIV. Anal sex, blood transfusion (never a cause anymore because of screening), and sharing needles with an HIV infected person is how you typically get HIV. The tissue around the anus is sensitive and can be easily torn during anal sex. This allows for infection and hence why HIV/AIDS effects gay men at disproportionate numbers.

You can get HIV from oral, anal or vaginal sex with a woman, if she has it. And a woman has an even higher chance of getting from a male doing these things than a man has. So I don't think it's that hard. There were lots of stories of married women who discovered they had AIDS, and then discovered their husbands were unfaithful, having sex with other women or men and then passing their STDs to their faithfull wives.

In Brazil, by law porn actors and actresses must wear condoms while performing. I wonder why such a law isn't passed in the US. Most of the porn sex in the US seems to be unprotected. This seems incredibly risky and would account for the high amount of STDs that these porn stars complained about, like herpes, HPV, etc.

[Lurker]

"When in response to his suggestions I let him know I would not become involved in prostitution in any way and told him I intended to leave, [Traynor] beat me up physically and the constant mental abuse began. I literally became a prisoner, I was not allowed out of his sight, not even to use the bathroom, where he watched me through a hole in... the door. He slept on top of me at night, he listened to my telephone calls with a .45 automatic eight shot pointed at me. I was beaten physically and suffered mental abuse each and every day thereafter. He undermined my ties with other people and forced me to marry him on advice from his lawyer."

I'd say that this is force?



This is the testimony of Linda Lovelace, a famous porn star in the 1970s. In the 1970s there were no VHS, DVD or home computers. Porn was made to be shown in the theaters. People didn't even watch it on TV. They watched on these theaters that showed just porn, and basically all these theaters in the US (the country where Linda Lovelace is from) were owned by the Mafia. The Mafia basically owned the whole porn industry in the 1970s and many of the most violent practices of porn at that time and early 1980s can be attributed to the fact that they were a crime syndicate, with a crime syndicate culture and employees. that's why you also see testimonies of Linda Lovecale saying she was forced into prostitution. That guy she talks about is her Mafia pimp.

Linda Lovelace's most famous movie, Deep Throat, supposedly made millions of dollars of revenue and was the most profitable movie in US history, along with other cheap movies like Blair Witch Project. But Deep Throat's revenue probably came from money laundering done by the Mafia to make their money from other sources legal. I doubt millions actually went to watch that movie at that time.

[Queen B]

Oh ~ oh, you are going to ruin Mary's world.
Damn you Kaz:mad:

[Prisoner Of Ice]

These people have mental problems and it's easy for them not to take accountability for their own choices and to play a victim role when their time in the Porn spotlight has run out. I don't have any sympathy for them. Life is hard for most people.

I was actually reminded of gigolo by most of these little blurbs.

I find it hard to believe about linda lovelace and some others but I know stuff like that does happen to people. For them of course I have 100% sympathy.

For the others, it is strange to see them surprised to get a disease after doing 30 porn movies. You will probably get a disease from that many partners having sex with people you don't know really well.

[Manifest Destiny]

I dunno from a lot of the videos I have watched the girls seems like it quite a bit lol.

It's acting. I'm not saying they hate every minute of it, but even if they did they'd soon find themselves unemployable in that industry if they were constantly bitching on camera about how miserable they were.

Nobody wants to watch a porn where the actors just complain for an hour or two.

[hobosmurf]

No one is forcing them to do it, they're responsible for their own actions

[Manifest Destiny]

Very sick. Most glad porn looks rather fakish to me anyway - and it's because everything is fake, including [many of] the orgasms.

This is woman abuse on the same level of what is happening in certain Muslim countries, only at the other side of the spectrum.

It's not the same, because nobody is forced to get into porn.

[RussiaPrussia]

http://bilder.4ever.eu/data/674xX/zeichentrick/anime-und-fantasy/[bilder.4ever.eu]%20sexy%20anime%20madchen,%20arsch,%20hentai%20162 357.jpg

there is always alternative without hurting anyones feeling

[Hess]

nobody is forced to get into porn.

That's the key point here.

To paraphrase Henry David Thoreau, There's no one more dangerous than the sincere reformer who knows what's good for you and, by god, is going to make you do it whether you want to or not.

[Blackout]

http://www.msgweb.nl/emoticons/thumbs_up.gif

Should be outlawed in my opinion.

[Hadouken]

Very sick. Most glad porn looks rather fakish to me anyway - and it's because everything is fake, including [many of] the orgasms.

This is woman abuse on the same level of what is happening in certain Muslim countries, only at the other side of the spectrum.


oh man oh man loki come on now :picard2:

1. nobody forces them to get into that business

2. there are also males who suffer from it but of course only 1 man and 10 women will be mentioned and felt sorry for .....for whatever reason ...it seems we men are not human beings

3. if we treat women that way like "aaaaaww poor weak women" THEN it is sexism and wrong imo not the other way around because they should be strong enough to not fall in certain things and be able to avoid doing shit like this


sometimes women will be forced to become prostitutes and THAT is woman abusive yes and wrong but feeling sorry for pornstars ? are you for real?

[Pjeter Pan]

They're pornstars who cares about them, they're scum. They chose to do this no one forced them.

[Lurker]

It's acting. I'm not saying they hate every minute of it, but even if they did they'd soon find themselves unemployable in that industry if they were constantly bitching on camera about how miserable they were.

Nobody wants to watch a porn where the actors just complain for an hour or two.

Most reality TV I watched seemed like that. Especially Big Brother.

[Kazimiera]

They're pornstars who cares about them, they're scum. They chose to do this no one forced them.

But you'll jerk off to them anyway? :confused:

[Prisoner Of Ice]

But you'll jerk off to them anyway? :confused:

That's not really your business, and it seems to be what you are upset by. You want to blame guys for liking women, basically.

Enablement is not a real crime it's as made up as the entitlement some of the people complaining obviously feel.

Obviously these people are not against porn in general or they would not do it, they are upset about particular people in porn (which no one has any control of so they will have to watch out for) and the general obvious problems of pron like getting diseases (which somehow they never thought of?). You can't blame this crap on men in general, it's only the people involved who are to blame.

[Hadouken]

But you'll jerk off to them anyway? :confused:

thats their job xD thats what they get paid for

but i dont watch much porn anyway so :ranger:

[Pjeter Pan]

But you'll jerk off to them anyway? :confused:
I don't jack off :rolleyes:

[EDMONDI]

Brenn Wynson

https://www.shelleylubben.com/sites/default/files/styles/square_120/public/brennwynson.jpg

“I am Brenn Wyson former kink gay porn star. What I can say? What goes on behind closed doors is a lot a sex abuse in way of transmitting HIV, HEP and whatever STD will snake there way in the the doors of Kink.com. The stars working at kink.com, making money will never disclose their bad behavior and the porn stars they throw to the trash. The drugs the lies the penis injections, which is against the law in San Fran to give to a porn star. But the are sure willing to stick your genitals to get the job done. I know what goes on behind closed doors and its sick, unsafe and your life is one the line. Trust me Kink.com will talk shit about you If you have a mouth to speak. I know because It happened to me. Its has taken me a long time to get my real career back and make an honest living. You never want to become a porn star because all the main porn companies will lie to you. Now I have to deal with Hep C, As a boxer this has been a damper on my life. I’m still a fighter and have recreated my life. Hopefully I can redirect others into stepping on the devils tale in the palace of porn."

:lol:

[Kazimiera]

That's not really your business, and it seems to be what you are upset by. You want to blame guys for liking women, basically.

Enablement is not a real crime it's as made up as the entitlement some of the people complaining obviously feel.

Obviously these people are not against porn in general or they would not do it, they are upset about particular people in porn (which no one has any control of so they will have to watch out for) and the general obvious problems of pron like getting diseases (which somehow they never thought of?). You can't blame this crap on men in general, it's only the people involved who are to blame.

No. He can do what he likes.

What does upset me, is that some people (not aimed at Archon directly, but in general) say that others are trash, yet buy the stuff anyway and keep the industry going.

Its the same as saying how bad prostitution is, and then going to visit hookers on Friday night.

Hypocrisy.

[Óttar]

No. He can do what he likes.

What does upset me, is that some people (not aimed at Archon directly, but in general) say that others are trash, yet buy the stuff anyway and keep the industry going.

Its the same as saying how bad prostitution is, and then going to visit hookers on Friday night.

Hypocrisy.
I knew a sex-worker in Boston who produces her own pr0n. She isn't fucked up. She now has a lucrative square job working for a firm in NYC.

I don't think all porn is like this, and I don't think all prostitution is like this either. But the cases where these things do happen, something should be done about it.

I didn't think Kazi would be anti-porn.

[Pjeter Pan]

Aunt Hilda would probably approve porn and say it's empowering women :laugh:

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Not that I am saying porn is good, but blame it on men?

It's obviously not everyone in porn doing the stuff they complain about. The rest is just naiviety/absurdity.

[Kazimiera]

Not that I am saying porn is good, but blame it on men?

It's obviously not everyone in porn doing the stuff they complain about. The rest is just naiviety/absurdity.

No no. I'm not blaming it on men as a whole. I think perhaps I did not express myself well enough.

There are people who are in these industries who WANT to be there, enjoy what they are doing and it is part of their lifestyle. Kudos to people like that, because it takes a rather "special" individual to want to do something like that.

My issue is that there are many girls who are lured into these industries with all sorts of promises and illusions and then find themselves in an underworld which swallows them up and often times spits out their corpses (literally). Surely if one could fast-foward time and show them a video clip of themselves, perhaps a year later, full of track marks, tired out and used up, they would definitely NOT make such a decision. But everybody is unique and it is human to think "it will never happen to me, it happens to other people and I'll be okay". They just become another statistic.

And whether one likes it or not, the sex industry is fuelled by the sexual desires of men. If there was no demand, these industries would not exist. But sadly the demand is such that people are being unwittingly dragged into these industries because demand exceeds supply. And that there are the money-makers who will ENSURE that there is supply, taking no regard for the lives of others.

[Bloodsport]

Why do we only talk about 'innocent girls lured into this' and never 'innocent boys lured into this'? Why does everything have to be the female victim oppressed by the evil predator male? I really find this type of thinking offensive, but nobody cares what I think because I have a penis and therefore I'm an oppressor.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

Why do we only talk about 'innocent girls lured into this' and never 'innocent boys lured into this'? Why does everything have to be the female victim oppressed by the evil predator male? I really find this type of thinking offensive, but nobody cares what I think because I have a penis and therefore I'm an oppressor.

I expect the average porn girl has sucked at least a hundred dicks before she goes into porn, hell I know girls who did that much in high school who'd still never do it in a million years.

[Neanderthal]

I expect the average porn girl has sucked at least a hundred dicks before she goes into porn, hell I know girls who did that much in high school who'd still never do it in a million years.

Probably they were very experienced prior getting into porn.

[Bloodsport]

True story, a male friend of mine who worked in film ran out of money and was about to be kicked out of his place...he was forced to shoot in porn a bit to pay his bills. But I don't think anyone is going to say he's 'the victim of society' even though he really didn't want to do it.

[Kazimiera]

Why do we only talk about 'innocent girls lured into this' and never 'innocent boys lured into this'? Why does everything have to be the female victim oppressed by the evil predator male? I really find this type of thinking offensive, but nobody cares what I think because I have a penis and therefore I'm an oppressor.

Of course boys are lured into it too. But the numbers will probably always remain more of a mystery, just like sexual abuse of boys and young men, because men are less likely to speak out about. And are more likely to be teased and ridiculed for it - by other men.

[Bloodsport]

And are more likely to be teased and ridiculed for it - by other men.

Again, this makes it out like men are causing the problem. Don't act like a man who tells a female friend he was sexually abused is going to be embraced but if he tells a male friend the male friend will just laugh it off.

[Kazimiera]

Again, this makes it out like men are causing the problem. Don't act like a man who tells a female friend he was sexually abused is going to be embraced but if he tells a male friend the male friend will just laugh it off.

I do agree with you. I personally wouldn't, whereas some would.

But who was he most likely abused BY? Father, grandfather, uncle, priest, tennis coach. It's a known fact that most sex offenders are male. I'm not saying that females don't sexually abuse, but they are more the exception than the rule.

But I'm venturing a little off topic here. I think this topic deserves a thread of its own.

[Hadouken]

Of course boys are lured into it too. But the numbers will probably always remain more of a mystery, just like sexual abuse of boys and young men, because men are less likely to speak out about. And are more likely to be teased and ridiculed for it - by other men.

even worse

bloodsport is totally right btw.

women are put on a pedestal and men are always fault and that sucks

just get over it we dont have 1950 anymore and everything is fine now ....no need for feminist "power" to change the world :rolleyes2:

[Bloodsport]

I do agree with you. I personally wouldn't, whereas some would.

But who was he most likely abused BY? Father, grandfather, uncle, priest, tennis coach. It's a known fact that most sex offenders are male. I'm not saying that females don't sexually abuse, but they are more the exception than the rule.

But I'm venturing a little off topic here. I think this topic deserves a thread of its own.

It's also a well known fact that most kids that get murdered, get murdered by their mother. But I'm not insinuating mothers have a murderous streak, and therefore I don't think it's right to insinuate males should take the blame for sexual abuse (I mean, until very recently it was a common place on all airlines that young children could not sit next to male passengers if they were flying solo. Talk about sexism...)

What I'm saying is I don't think this is an issue of 'gender' or 'man v woman'. The sexualisation of society has deeper roots, fixable roots.

[mr. logan]

They are mercenaries and are treated like that, similar to Army personnel.
If a woman goes to a first shot and three men shove their cocks down her throat, spit, smack, dped her and she shows up for a second shot another day, that is simply a slut, and she craves for more. Another soldier for the brain invasion. Complaining after 200 cocks in the ass is kind of silly. Otherwise, after the first scene she/he can go and get a job.

[Farah]

Honestly it's hard to feel any sympathy for these people. Everyone worldwide is aware of the filthy, inhumane & unethical reality of this industry, yet they were adults who willingly and voluntarily took up this profession for the desire of fast money and an 'easy' way of life. So why complain, then? There are people out there who were trafficked and turned into sex workers, or those who turned to prostitution out of desperation - now those are people you feel sympathy and sadness for. Yet these porn stars chose to sell their body in a limitless way,out of pure greed for money & fame, so, I don't get what was it that 'shocked' them? Everything about this industry is animalistic, so ofcourse they had to foresee such low conditions.

[Empecinado]

I feel pity for miners risking their lives everyday for a shitty paid and going to suffer silicosis and die pretty young...but why do I have to feel pity about some prostitutes (both males and females, there are a lot of gay porn "actors" too) who are making A LOT of money because they prefer over it rather than have a heavier and more dignified job though worse paid?

[KidMulat]

You speaking from experience, son?

Haha I have mentioned it before nearly every single one of my queer friends under the age of 25 have done porn or other type of sexwork, we have a lot of porn studios in SF and they will go down to LA for work.

Most of them are students who need to pay bills/graduates paying off debt but to me the degradation by the owners is not worth it

[Ozzy]

Haha I have mentioned it before nearly every single one of my queer friends under the age of 25 have done porn or other type of sexwork, we have a lot of porn studios in SF and they will go down to LA for work.

Most of them are students who need to pay bills/graduates paying off debt but to me the degradation by the owners is not worth it
Yeah.. I would never feel comfortable doing that, I'd rather be poor and have my dignity and peace of mind. There had to be something missing upstairs for them to have jumped into something like that without really thinking about it.

[Neanderthal]

Yeah.. I would never feel comfortable doing that, I'd rather be poor and have my dignity and peace of mind. There had to be something missing upstairs for them to have jumped into something like that without really thinking about it.

What have you done? Now he gonna writte a brick long text about 'oppression' and brothas' and or homosexuals not having job/career opportunities other than to be male prostitutes. Jew suits him fine, he is of the whiny type.

[Mary]

I need to read from Mary before I make my mind on this one.

The pornstars who say this kind of stuff are usually either people on drugs and therefore crazy, or people who got somehow screwed over in the business. All of these quotes should be taken with a grain of salt.


A study published this week has debunked the stereotypical portrayal of porn actresses as 'damaged goods' who enter the adult entertainment industry because they suffer from low esteem or have been victims of childhood sexual abuse.



'In terms of psychological characteristics, porn actresses had higher levels of self-esteem, positive feelings, social support, sexual satisfaction and spirituality compared to the matched group,' the report summarises.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2238719/Female-porn-stars-higher-self-esteem-better-quality-life-according-new-study.html

[Kazimiera]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2238719/Female-porn-stars-higher-self-esteem-better-quality-life-according-new-study.html

Mary, I hope you don't mind but I am going to use this article to make a thread.

[Mary]

Mary, I hope you don't mind but I am going to use this article to make a thread.

I don't mind at all.

[Loki]

Really good to see you back Mary :)

[Queen B]

The pornstars who say this kind of stuff are usually either people on drugs and therefore crazy, or people who got somehow screwed over in the business. All of these quotes should be taken with a grain of salt.

Your idol Belladona is mentioned as well, though

[Mary]

Your idol Belladona is mentioned as well, though

Well she probably got screwed over in a shoot.

Annabel Chong did a big movie and didn't get paid for it,


Even though the movie became one of the highest grossing pornographic films of all time,[1] Chong was never paid the US$10,000 she was promised,[2] and apparently never received any money at all from the video.[7]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annabel_Chong

She didn't care,

http://www.veoh.com/watch/v20887662TXRzwPnF

She's very attractive.

[Hoca]

Your idol Belladona is mentioned as well, though

Don't talk shit about pornstars. Most of them had no other choice. For instance a lot of Greek girls are moving to Turkey now, for sucking a cock for a baklava. In desperate times people are desperate.

[Queen B]

Don't talk shit about pornstars. Most of them had no other choice. For instance a lot of Greek girls are moving to Turkey now, for sucking a cock for a baklava. In desperate times people are desperate.
First of all, I didn't talk shit. I couldn't care less of what profession they do, it's not my business. I just mentioned something to Mary
I know that you are dreaming of Greek girls, but its not likely. If they wanted to work in prostitution, they would do it in their country, or in a better paying country than Turkey.

[Hoca]

First of all, I didn't talk shit. I couldn't care less of what profession they do, it's not my business. I just mentioned something to Mary
I know that you are dreaming of Greek girls, but its not likely. If they wanted to work in prostitution, they would do it in their country, or in a better paying country than Turkey.Pff, who says I want a Greek girl? :rolleyes: Most of the Greek girls here in Turkey are here to find a real guy and because they are conditioned to want that Turkic male by Turkish soaps on Greek tv. That would explain the Greek girls I met in Turkey were all over my baklava. You say Greeks prefer western countries but western countries don't want you anymore, or at least not more of you.

[Breedingvariety]

As far as mainstream porn goes, Belladona does extreme porn scenes. Women have been traumatized by less than what she has been openly exposed to.

I do believe most porn stars use drugs to push bad experiences out of their minds. Also, they do plastic surgeries, that can go bad. Even good plastic surgeries are bad news when people get older. Add to that all the stuff we may not know and you have to admit porn business is a bad carrier path.

[Empecinado]

I do believe most porn stars use drugs to push bad experiences out of their minds. Also, they do plastic surgeries, that can go bad. Even good plastic surgeries are bad news when people get older. Add to that all the stuff we may not know and you have to admit porn business is a bad carrier path.

Prostitutes often take drugs such as cocain and meth, most likely porn actress do too.

[iNird]

Don't talk shit about pornstars. Most of them had no other choice. For instance a lot of Greek girls are moving to Turkey now, for sucking a cock for a baklava. In desperate times people are desperate.

This is low level trolling.

[Pjeter Pan]

Don't talk shit about pornstars. Most of them had no other choice. For instance a lot of Greek girls are moving to Turkey now, for sucking a cock for a baklava. In desperate times people are desperate.
please do go on

[papa diddy pop]

what about amateur porn ?

[Pjeter Pan]

what about amateur porn ?
That's the best

[papa diddy pop]

And whether one likes it or not, the sex industry is fuelled by the sexual desires of men. If there was no demand, these industries would not exist. But sadly the demand is such that people are being unwittingly dragged into these industries because demand exceeds supply. And that there are the money-makers who will ENSURE that there is supply, taking no regard for the lives of others.

I wonder how Porn enterprise still make money these days with all the youtube like porn sites ? Have you got any information about that ?

[Queen B]

Pff, who says I want a Greek girl? :rolleyes: Most of the Greek girls here in Turkey are here to find a real guy and because they are conditioned to want that Turkic male by Turkish soaps on Greek tv. That would explain the Greek girls I met in Turkey were all over my baklava. You say Greeks prefer western countries but western countries don't want you anymore, or at least not more of you.
A bunch of bullshit, yet, I didn't expect anything else from you
1) Unless they are 15 year old fangirls, there is no single (sane) woman that would go to find a man in another country, because she might like an actor in TV:picard2:
2) Greeks were always migrating in richer countries. The reason of migration isn't to have a job just to survive and not die, but having a better future and havve the money your education and job deserves. That's why is mostly academics the ones that migrated after the crisis.
3) The majority, if not all Greek girls would be disgusted , even on the though of circumsised dick.
4) Get over it, you'll never find a Greek girl, no matter how much you want it.

This is low level trolling.
You expected more of him?

[blklady2013]

What scares me the most about porn is the fact that many are using it for educational purposes.
So I have a bunch of men looking at me like I'm crazy when I tell them that no, I wouldn't be interested in him choking me with his dick.
I've eerily encountered a LOT of men who literally think that women are just like pornstars. Instantly aroused with little foreplay, no context, and ready to do whatever, turned on by the mere idea of semen with no regard for personal satisfaction...
Scary. Any woman who watches porn instinctively can tell when a woman is faking, even the best actress. But I feel like there are a lot of factors in the minds of men that push many to believe that this is reality.

Scary. Very scary.
I'm not a fan of inundating men with a bunch of guilt and shame about human sexuality because who the hell wants a man who is so henpecked about his sexual needs, that he is nervous around women. (Ultra-feminists, have a care about the types of men you may be creating when you go on a rampage...)
But at the same time, I think that its important to be cognizant of the fact that porn is a world of artifice and a great number of women aren't biologically wired to desire the acting you see on the screen and people shouldn't resent us for that either.

Shout out to Corvus who seems to be a guru on all things vaginal! But seriously, dude you really get women a lot!

[Corvus]

What scares me the most about porn is the fact that many are using it for educational purposes.
So I have a bunch of men looking at me like I'm crazy when I tell them that no, I wouldn't be interested in him choking me with his dick.
I've eerily encountered a LOT of men who literally think that women are just like pornstars. Instantly aroused with little foreplay, no context, and ready to do whatever, turned on by the mere idea of semen with no regard for personal satisfaction...
Scary. Any woman who watches porn instinctively can tell when a woman is faking, even the best actress. But I feel like there are a lot of factors in the minds of men that push many to believe that this is reality.

Scary. Very scary.
I'm not a fan of inundating men with a bunch of guilt and shame about human sexuality because who the hell wants a man who is so henpecked about his sexual needs, that he is nervous around women. (Ultra-feminists, have a care about the types of men you may be creating when you go on a rampage...)
But at the same time, I think that its important to be cognizant of the fact that porn is a world of artifice and a great number of women aren't biologically wired to desire the acting you see on the screen and people shouldn't resent us for that either.

Shout out to Corvus who seems to be a guru on all things vaginal! But seriously, dude you really get women a lot!

LOL I am not a guru. Since short time ago I have rather been the opposite, also not very intrested in this topic. But due to some experience in recent past I have know gained some valuable knowledge about female desires and about sex in general.
I don`t consider it a taboo issue. I mean its a natural human urge and the essential part of human evolution.

[Dead Eye]

I dunno from a lot of the videos I have watched the girls seems like it quite a bit lol.

They are told to behave in a manner like as if they enjoy it.It's all an act.

[MissProvocateur]

Regardless of the fact becoming porn stars "was their choice" (And most times it isn't, some are threatened to death and forced into it), I still feel bad for these people. Most don't know what they are getting into until it's too late. Like any other human being, they are suffering, regardless of their stupid choice. People need to be a little more humane.

[Suleiman Arian]

Hot. Gave me a raging erection.

[Balmung]

I dunno from a lot of the videos I have watched the girls seems like it quite a bit lol.

Staged brah, look at their faces, every once in a while you'll see it. The "what the fuck am I doing how did I end up here fuck my life" look.

[Suleiman Arian]

Reminds me of Marys mentality. NO MEANS YES!

[HillY35]

Lucky Starr sounds so daft in her quote...but the reality is that she is a dangerous b*tch.

[Mary]

Staged brah, look at their faces, every once in a while you'll see it. The "what the fuck am I doing how did I end up here fuck my life" look.

Because if you had sex with a hot woman on camera you would have to pretend to like it? "How did I end up fucking hot women for money? Fuck my life."

[Suleiman Arian]

Because if you had sex with a hot woman on camera you would have to pretend to like it? "How did I end up fucking hot women for money? Fuck my life."

Exactly. The only people "speaking out" are either spoiled or looking to make money off of their claims. I wouldn't say ALL of them enjoy it but obviously most of them enjoy their job if they haven't quit yet.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

A female porm star that'd been in the industry for a while had excessive anal intercourse and a piece of her muscle from her anus fell out on set while she was filming. Some females damaged their reproductive systems which left them unable to have children.


Wait a minute I thought the idea of getting looser from tons of sex was a myth. lolol

[Óttar]

excerpt from Danielle's book, "From Porn to the Pulpit" - page 98
I don't doubt that the mainstream pornography industry is an insidious byproduct of our corrupt capitalist society. Anything pornography companies can create a demand for (niche fetishes, violence etc.), they will create a demand for it in the interest of $$$ and they don't care about human welfare. That being said, church groups who prey upon victims of the porn industry are even worse. Do you know it is the entirely normal and common career-track for street pimps to become preachers after their black market career is over? Retired pimp Bishop Don Magic Juan said that God is the greatest pimp there ever was.

Notice how most anti-porn campaigns are spearheaded by church-groups who want to divert the flow of cash from the pornography industry to their own coffers. Shameless. Disgusting.

[Balmung]

Check out efukt sometimes that site is filled with vids showing the reality of pornography when they're not filming. Tons of hilarious pornstar meltdowns.


Wait a minute I thought the idea of getting looser from tons of sex was a myth. lolol

Yeah that shits disgusting lol

[Rædwald]

Pornography should be banned.

[Prisoner Of Ice]

I don't doubt that the mainstream pornography industry is an insidious byproduct of our corrupt capitalist society. Anything pornography companies can create a demand for (niche fetishes, violence etc.), they will create a demand for it in the interest of $$$ and they don't care about human welfare. That being said, church groups who prey upon victims of the porn industry are even worse. Do you know it is the entirely normal and common career-track for street pimps to become preachers after their black market career is over? Retired pimp Bishop Don Magic Juan said that God is the greatest pimp there ever was.

Notice how most anti-porn campaigns are spearheaded by church-groups who want to divert the flow of cash from the pornography industry to their own coffers. Shameless. Disgusting.

Yes, lots of evangelists make millions off of former pornstars. What planet do you even live on anyway?

Televangelists are often about money (but still most are not, there's literally thousands of them who do little shows that make zero money).

It's good someone exposes some of this bullshit. I'd be just as happy if they removed porn from the net completely, which would stop much of societal decay as it's not 2 seconds away from everyone's fingertips, and would remove most of the promotion for it and hence the demand. Some pervert can still get a porn if he buys it but most people won't bother if it's not right in their face.

[Kace]

Exactly. The only people "speaking out" are either spoiled or looking to make money off of their claims. I wouldn't say ALL of them enjoy it but obviously most of them enjoy their job if they haven't quit yet.

They definitely could quit, but a lot of employers won't hire a porn star.

[Odin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nljvByLN4qg