Thousands of Ethnic Hungarians Call for Autonomy

[Baluarte]

Thousands of Ethnic Hungarians Call for Autonomy

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/thousands-ethnic-hungarians-call-autonomy-20695718

Thousands of ethnic Hungarians held rallies on Sunday to demand autonomy for their minority group in the areas where they live in Romania.

The marches — with people singing, waving Hungarian flags, and riding horses and carriages — were held Sunday in 14 communities of Transylvania, including the town of Targu Secuiesc.

In Budapest, Hungary, thousands marched to the Romanian Embassy carrying a sign reading "Territorial autonomy for Szeklerland" referring to the stretches of Romania where ethnic Hungarians are concentrated. Others chanted, "Szeklerland is not Romania."

There were also rallies held in the Hungarian cities of Debrecen and Szolnok.

The Civic Cooperation Forum, which organized the demonstrations, said it would send a petition to the European Union and the Romanian government to call for the cause of Szekler autonomy to be taken into consideration.

Transylvania was part of the Austro-Hungarian empire until after World War I, when the ethnic Romanian majority in Transylvania created Romania.

Today, ethnic Hungarians make up about 6 percent of Romania's population. Community leader Kelemen Hunor told The Associated Press on Sunday that they want territorial autonomy to maintain their ethnic identity and grow economically.

Romanian politicians have opposed granting the minority that privilege.

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[Baluarte]

http://www.dw.de/image/0,,17186351_303,00.jpg
About 10,000 people held protests on Sunday in Hungary and Romania to demand autonomy for the 1.2 million ethnic Hungarians living in Romania.
The marches - with people singing, waving Hungarian flags, and riding horses and carriages - happened in communities of Transylvania, including the town of Targu Secuiesc.

http://www.dw.de/ethnic-hungarians-march-for-autonomy-in-romania/a-17186467

[Andy]

Inceteaza sa mai postezi cacaturi de genul in acest topic, reprezentand persoanele de nationalitate romana. Fa-o in spatiul destinat bozgorilor, sau indeasa-ti-o in fundulet.
Stop posting this kind of "informations" on this ROMANIAN subforum. His place is in the Hungaryan thread, not here. I consider it spam, so don't do it anymore.

[Baluarte]

Took place in the current territory of Romania and related to the Romanian State. Stop whining.

[Andy]

Încetează să mai postezi aici, iubitor de bozgori nenorocit ce ești. Atâta timp cand eu ca român găsesc postarea asta a fi o ofensă la adresa indentității mele naționale, iar tu postezi aici pentru că ești un copchil forumist, dracu știe ce naționalitate spurcată, ce-și trăiește viața pe forumuri făcând 10.000 de postări în câteva luni, cum îți permiți să comentezi, încă ? În cazul în care folosești site-uri de traducere ca să-nțelegi ce am scris aici, atunci poate-ți vine mintea la cap și realizezi că n-ai ce căuta aici, suferindule.

[Zmey Gorynych]

Încetează să mai postezi aici, iubitor de bozgori nenorocit ce ești. Atâta timp cand eu ca român găsesc postarea asta a fi o ofensă la adresa indentității mele naționale, iar tu postezi aici pentru că ești un copchil forumist, dracu știe ce naționalitate spurcată, ce-și trăiește viața pe forumuri făcând 10.000 de postări în câteva luni, cum îți permiți să comentezi, încă ? În cazul în care folosești site-uri de traducere ca să-nțelegi ce am scris aici, atunci poate-ți vine mintea la cap și realizezi că n-ai ce căuta aici, suferindule.
E o corcitura sud-americana care se viseaza a fi exponent al civilizatiei europene.

[Szegedist]

Thousands of people?? THey formed a human chain of 54 KILOMETRES. You try doing that with just "thousands". Typical attempts to diminish Hungarian struggles in occupied Transylvania.


Took place in the current territory of Romania and related to the Romanian State. Stop whining.
I agree with my romani-an friends, all news related to Transylvania should be posted in Hungary forum.

[Baluarte]

I agree with my romani-an friends, all news related to Transylvania should be posted in Hungary forum.

Alright then. Point taken for the future.

[Szegedist]

What I find really funny, is how this romani-an andy is calling himself a "germanic", and as a new member is barking at much more established member.

typical romani-an mentality.

[Lucifer]

was transylvania historicaly hungarian?

[blogen]

was transylvania historicaly hungarian?

Yes, between the 11th century and the early 20th century.

[Lucifer]

Yes, between the 11th century and the early 20th century.

you lost it after treaty of trianon i guess?

[Kiyant]

Yes, between the 11th century and the early 20th century.

Also Szekely are proudly Hungarian and will never let themselves get intigrated into Romania

[Kiyant]

you lost it after treaty of trianon i guess?

Yes

[blogen]

you lost it after treaty of trianon i guess?

Yes.

[Szegedist]

We lost Transylvania in 1920, regained 40% of it in 1940, lost it again in 1944 (well technically 1947 on paper)
Before that it was ours for about a millennium, and according to Székely traditions, they lived there for even longer than that.

[Pro_Patria]

We lost Transylvania in 1920, regained 40% of it in 1940, lost it again in 1944 (well technically 1947 on paper)
Before that it was ours for about a millennium, and according to Székely traditions, they lived there for even longer than that.

Yourd for a millennium ehh? Ever heard of the Kingdom of Dacia? And who was the majority that lived there?

[Szegedist]

Yourd for a millennium ehh? Ever heard of the Kingdom of Dacia? And who was the majority that lived there?

Kingdom of Dacia? So Dacians were Christians? Lol what a moron you are. And Dacia only lasted for about 3 centuries, and it was insignificant. And why do you bring up Dacian? romani-ans had nothing to do with it.

And the majority were for sure not "vlachs". The first record of vlachs did not happen until the 13th century.

Ps Gypsy, that signature, it tells you all it needs about the primitivity of rumanians

[blogen]

Yourd for a millennium ehh? Ever heard of the Kingdom of Dacia? And who was the majority that lived there?

There was no majority in the Dacian Kingdom. Lot of people lived there: Dacians, Celts, Thracians, Carpians, etc. Transsylvania was mostly Celtic with Dacian elements in South. But this is not connected to the Romanians.

[solaris]

What I find really funny, is how this romani-an andy is calling himself a "germanic", and as a new member is barking at much more established member.

typical romani-an mentality.
that guy holding the map looks like one of your romani-an buddies.
http://www.dw.de/image/0,,17186351_303,00.jpg

[Pro_Patria]

Kingdom of Dacia? So Dacians were Christians? Lol what a moron you are. And Dacia only lasted for about 3 centuries, and it was insignificant. And why do you bring up Dacian? romani-ans had nothing to do with it.

And the majority were for sure not "vlachs". The first record of vlachs did not happen until the 13th century.

Ps Gypsy, that signature, it tells you all it needs about the primitivity of rumanians

Lol what you said makes no sense Mongoloid barbarian? What does the Dacians not being Christian have anything do do with it? It only lasted united for three centuries and was a regional power.

Lol bozgors just love throwing the term Vlach around, however little do they know or want to know that we have:

1. Historical sources
2. Dna evidence
3.Cultural evidence
and numbers, we always had the numbers. Now go take your funny psuedo-theories to a Bozgor-Garda meeting.

[HellLander87]

Just a notice.As much as modern hungarians and bulgarians are magyars and bulgars so much are the Romanians Romans.

[Szegedist]

Lol bozgors just love throwing the term Vlach around, however little do they know or want to know that we have:
Bozgor = Hungarian word for romani-ans , later copied by romani-ans



1. Historical sources
2. Dna evidence
3.Cultural evidence

Historical sources, DNA evidence and Cultural evidence shows that modern day romani-ans are descendants of primitive vlach shepards from the southern balkan.

[Kiyant]

Lol what you said makes no sense Mongoloid barbarian? What does the Dacians not being Christian have anything do do with it? It only lasted united for three centuries and was a regional power.

Lol bozgors just love throwing the term Vlach around, however little do they know or want to know that we have:

1. Historical sources
2. Dna evidence
3.Cultural evidence
and numbers, we always had the numbers. Now go take your funny psuedo-theories to a Bozgor-Garda meeting.

Lol at mongoloid barbarians..... also nice signature........not

[Szegedist]

Just a notice.As much as modern hungarians and bulgarians are magyars and bulgars so much are the Romanians Romans.

Wrong. Hungarians = Magyars, while romani-ans have very little to do with ancient Romans.

[blogen]

that guy holding the map looks like one of your romani-an buddies.
http://www.dw.de/image/0,,17186351_303,00.jpg

Yes, he is probably Gypsy origin, maybe Indo-armenoid is his basic character.

[Pro_Patria]

Bozgor = Hungarian word for romani-ans , later copied by romani-ans


Historical sources, DNA evidence and Cultural evidence shows that modern day romani-ans are descendants of primitive vlach shepards from the southern balkan.

Maybe you could show the people all this evidence, and I will show mine. (Hint Hungarian sources do not count ;))

[Pro_Patria]

Yes, he is probably Gypsy origin, maybe Indo-armenoid is his basic character.

LOL says the Turanian.

[Mary]

It's very simple. Whenever people secede it's usually the richer part that wants to secede from the poorer. In this case it's the poorer region that wants to secede from the richer. That's why this is all nonsense and not actually for real. That means they don't actually want autonomy.

[Szegedist]

Maybe you could show the people all this evidence, and I will show mine. (Hint Hungarian sources do not count ;))

THey are very well aware of this evidence.

On the other hand your securitate Cauceuscu era sources do not count

[blogen]

Wrong. Hungarians = Magyars, while romani-ans have very little to do with ancient Romans.

Partially Magyars. The today's Hungarian majority has conqueror and conquered ancestors, and lot of Hungarians have immigrant ancestors too (mostly Germans and Gypsies).

[Szegedist]

It's very simple. Whenever people secede it's usually the richer part that wants to secede from the poorer. In this case it's the poorer region that want to secede from the richer. That's why this is all nonsense and not actually for real.

1) Stupid Mary barks again
2) The reason they want to secede is patriotism, not because of money. You romani-ans can only understand the concept of money, bribery, stealing, etc. Nothing deeper and more meaningful than this.

[Kiyant]

LOL says the Turanian.

What do you want to say that Turanids are gypsies or what because now you offend me

[Szegedist]

Partially Magyars. The today's Hungarian majority has conqueror and conquered ancestors, and lot of Hungarians have immigrant ancestors too (mostly Germans and Gypsies).

So Hungarians are partially Magyar? Are you retarded? We call ourselves Magyarok, not Hungarians.

[Szegedist]

What do you want to say that Turanids are gypsies or what because now you offend me

Ironically, "Turanian Gypsies" were responsible for the foundations of his two principalities (moldova and wallachia)

[Stears]

VLACHS (Romanians) WERE THE LATEST NOMADIC ETHNIC GROUP IN EUROPE.


USE Google books! (The word's largest digitalized library, the largest collection of printed books)


Carleton Stevens Coon: The races of Europe, Page 614
" Vlach colonists are nomads living in black tents like those of ... A greater variation is found in the cephalic index; on the plains of Moldavia and Wallachia, and in the Dobruja"



Vlachs were known as late - nomadic people in medieval chronicles. The first romanian vlach (romanian) churches were built only around the turn of the 13th and 14th century. No known archiutecture existed before that period.

See the google book results (search the british american candian authors about in the results):




Mandell Creighton, Justin Winsor, Samuel Rawson Gardiner: The English Historical Review page:- 615.
"He shows that the Vlachs of the Balkan peninsula throughout the middle ages are nomads of the strictest type, ... that Vlachs began to move north of the Danube to Wallachia and Transylvania "




Robert William Seton-Watson: A history of the Roumanians: from Roman times to the completion of unity, page: 12
"The Roumanians undoubtedly preserved their nomadic habits to a very late date, as is proved by the existence of Vlach colonies in Moravia (the so-called "Little Wallachia" — long since completely Slavised)"



Joan E. Durrant, Anne B. Smith Global Pathways to Abolishing Physical Punishment: Realizing Children’s Rights ( PAGE 210)

"Between the 3rd century A.D. and the 14th century A.D., Dacia was invaded successively by nomadic peoples, including the ... Romanians "



Norman Berdichevsky: Nations, Language and Citizenship -page: 181.

"The “true Romanians” are held to be interlopers who were nomadic shepherds that migrated into Transylvania from the ... then transferred to “Wallachia,” the traditional core area of the Romanian state located east and south of Transylvania."




Other elements in the population of Greece are the Wallachians or Vlachs, the Turks, and the Jews, but they have never ... The Wallachians are a curious nomadic race



David Bruce Macdonald - 2002 Balkan Holocausts?: Serbian and Croatian Victim Centered ... page- 131

"These hinterland Romans evolved into highland herdsmen, who for centuries led a primitive nomadic life"



Lampe, John R, Jackson, Marvin R. Balkan Economic History, 1550 - 1950: From Imperial Borderlands to ... page - 612.
"Vlachs had first acquired their commercial connections in the course of moving their livestock seasonally back and forth between high and low ground. ... Alan J.B. Wace and M.S. Thompson, The Nomads of the Balkans (New York, 1914; New York: Books for Libraries Press, 1971)"



Jane Perry Clark Carey, Andrew Galbraith Carey : The Web of Modern Greek Politics - page 73
"shepherds and nomadic herdsmen, wandering through the Balkans and the north of Greece. On their early migrations they gave the Vlach name to various districts, including the province of Wallachia in present-day Romania"


Chambers's Encyclopedia - Volume 14. page:- 339.
"The Vlachs are usually mentioned as following nomadic or semi-nomadic lives as shepherds etc. in wild mountain ... nth century was known as 'Great Wallachia' and seems to have contained a relatively dense and settled Vlach population."



Denys Hay: Europe in the fourteenth and fifteenth centuries page: 220
"In the first half of the fourteenth century there also appeared there the two Romanian principalities of Wallachia and Moldavia. ... or whether the Hungarians are right in their thesis that these Vlachs were recently immigrated nomadic shepherds"



Frank Moore Colby, Talcott Williams, Herbert Treadwell Wade: The New International Encyclopaedia Voluma 20. Page: 219
"Owing to their nomadic and predatory dispositions these Vlachs, as they are called by the Greek writers, were a ... the autonomous Rumanian principalities of Wallachia and Moldavia, which grew rapidly towards south and east until the former"


Isaiah Bowman: The New World: Problems in Political Geography page - 282
"or Wallachians The Rumanians, or Wallachs (hence Wallachia), are of mixed race but of distinct speech, the Ruman, ... Home places of the nomadic Vlachs The Vlachs , Rumanian nomadism is seen in its purest form among the detached"



Norman Angell : Peace Theories And The Balkan War page: - 107.
"It had been founded by a conquering caste of non-Slavonic nomads from the trans-Danubian steppes, but these were completely ... This Bulgarian state included a large 'Vlach' element descended from those Latin-speaking provincials whom the Slavs had pushed ... had established itself in the mountains of Transylvania, and was just beginning to push down into the Wallachian and Moldavian plains"


Tibor Frank, Frank Hadler : Disputed territories and shared pasts: overlapping national histories in modern Europe, page: 251
"Reference to Romanians in their preunification (1859) history was linked to the regional designation of Wallachia (today Oltenia and Muntenia) to the south ... This designation relates to the nomadic existence of the Balkan Vlach population."



Paul Coles : The Ottoman Impact on Europe - page: 114
" nomadic pastoralism provided a new lease of life for the Rumanian-speaking Vlachs, migratory herdsmen whose native principalities of Moldavia and Wallachia had fallen under Ottoman dominion during the fifteenth century"




Wace, Alan J. B. and Maurice S. Thompson. 1914.:
"The Nomads of the Balkans: An Account of Life and Custom Among the Vlachs of Northern Pindus."

[Kiyant]

Ironically, "Turanian Gypsies" were responsible for the foundations of his two principalities (moldova and wallachia)

I know without cumans there wouldnt have been wallachia

[HellLander87]

Anyway what does it matter who was there first or where did he come from.Both countries are the rightfull owners of what they have as this was the result of 2 world wars and of shed blood.If anybody wanted more they should have fought better.Losers lose!

[Kiyant]

Anyway what does it matter who was there first or where did he come from.Both countries are the rightfull owners of what they have as this was the result of 2 world wars and of shed blood.If anybody wanted more they should have fought better.Losers lose!

Romania backstabbed Hungary....

[Szegedist]

I know without cumans there wouldnt have been wallachia

The funniest part of it is, the territory of Wallachia was under Hungarian control, then the Cuman lords rebelled against Hungarian rule and created the foundations for modern day romani-a :laugh:

[Szegedist]

Anyway what does it matter who was there first or where did he come from.Both countries are the rightfull owners of what they have as this was the result of 2 world wars and of shed blood.If anybody wanted more they should have fought better.Losers lose!

The more you can speak, the more I can understand why Turks think of gayreeks as morons.

[Kiyant]

The funniest part of it is, the territory of Wallachia was under Hungarian control, then the Cuman lords rebelled against Hungarian rule and created the foundations for modern day romani-a :laugh:

Like always brother wars were the reason of territory and empires losses of steppe people.

[HellLander87]

Romania backstabbed Hungary....
Everyone fights for his own interests.There is no mercy in these things.It s stupid to expect pity when countries interests are at stake.

[Szegedist]

Lol, in 1944 it was not romania that took Transylvania, but the Red Army.

[Rudel]

Romanian politicians have opposed granting the minority that privilege.
And they shouldn't. Minorities can take arms or fuck themselves.


all news related to Transylvania should be posted in Hungary forum.
Like it or not, Transylvania is in Romania.


Ps Gypsy, that signature, it tells you all it needs about the primitivity of rumanians
You call them gypsy and primitives but react like a fucking ape.

[HellLander87]

The more you can speak, the more I can understand why Turks think of gayreeks as morons.
You don't want to know what I think about you.

[Szegedist]

You don't want to know what I think about you.

Honestly, I couldn't really care less.

[blogen]

LOL says the Turanian.

What? ~5% of the Hungarians have Gypsy ancestors. For example the Hungarian prime minister Orbán Viktor is a typical Irano-Indid:

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/127/h243.jpg

And? The Hungarians deny the Romanian ancestors only, but luckily only a few Hungarian has a Romanian ancestor. Since the majority of the Hungarian Gypsies are assimilated, there is a serious problem with only a small Romanian speaking and/or origin group: with the vlach gipsies (oláh cigányok). The majority of the criminal Gypsies are ethnic Romanian in Hungary, than everywhere in Europe. They preserve the Romanian habits yet.

[blogen]

So Hungarians are partially Magyar? Are you retarded? We call ourselves Magyarok, not Hungarians.

I used the word in the honfoglaló meaning.

[HellLander87]

Honestly, I couldn't really care less.
Now you are going to get some:p I found this exerpt at the local wikipedia describing you literally.
Stearsid
Absolutley most retarded race ever. Kind of Hungrain supermacist till last breath. Life goal of this race is to be superior. Superior to Eastern Europeans, superior to Northhern Europans, superior to Asians, superior to non-trans Dunabian Hungarians. Members of this race usualy do not know anything on topics where they bump in, but its not problem, this race has two ultimate yells: Chek mate and wrong. This race lives in belief that Sweden is backward compared to Hungary, and that Tesla is not great scientists, despite rest of world claiming so. Also, this race believe Muslims have icons, but Roman Catholics do not. Also, this race believes its not Eastern European.

[Kiyant]

Now you are going to get some:p I found this exerpt at the local wikipedia describing you literally.
Stearsid
Absolutley most retarded race ever. Kind of Hungrain supermacist till last breath. Life goal of this race is to be superior. Superior to Eastern Europeans, superior to Northhern Europans, superior to Asians, superior to non-trans Dunabian Hungarians. Members of this race usualy do not know anything on topics where they bump in, but its not problem, this race has two ultimate yells: Chek mate and wrong. This race lives in belief that Sweden is backward compared to Hungary, and that Tesla is not great scientists, despite rest of world claiming so. Also, this race believe Muslims have icons, but Roman Catholics do not. Also, this race believes its not Eastern European.

nope thats stears not Viktor.

[HellLander87]

nope thats stears not Viktor.
He belongs to the stearsid tribe 100% :)

[Szegedist]

Now you are going to get some:p I found this exerpt at the local wikipedia describing you literally.
Stearsid
Absolutley most retarded race ever. Kind of Hungrain supermacist till last breath. Life goal of this race is to be superior. Superior to Eastern Europeans, superior to Northhern Europans, superior to Asians, superior to non-trans Dunabian Hungarians. Members of this race usualy do not know anything on topics where they bump in, but its not problem, this race has two ultimate yells: Chek mate and wrong. This race lives in belief that Sweden is backward compared to Hungary, and that Tesla is not great scientists, despite rest of world claiming so. Also, this race believe Muslims have icons, but Roman Catholics do not. Also, this race believes its not Eastern European.

At least I am not Greek :)

[Stears]

What? ~5% of the Hungarians have Gypsy ancestors. For example the Hungarian prime minister Orbán Viktor is a typical Irano-Indid:

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/127/h243.jpg

And? The Hungarians deny the Romanian ancestors only, but luckily only a few Hungarian has a Romanian ancestor. Since the majority of the Hungarian Gypsies are assimilated, there is a serious problem with only a small Romanian speaking and/or origin group: with the vlach gipsies (oláh cigányok). The majority of the criminal Gypsies are ethnic Romanian in Hungary, than everywhere in Europe. They preserve the Romanian habits yet.

But that 5% is not ethnic Hungarian, and they hate the majority.Only balkan people and romanians mixed with gypsies in great quantity.See the genetic studies. For example the famous haplogroup "I" of Balkan people is very high in European gypsy populations, which were picked up during their balkan migrations. http://teo.elte.hu/minosites/ertekezes2012/vago-zalan_a.pdf (http://teo.elte.hu/minosites/ertekezes2012/vago-zalan_a.pdf)

[Vlach]

Yes, between the 11th century and the early 20th century.

Are you retarded?
Transylvania was indepedence in 1541-1691 (in 1600 Mihai Viteazul united Transylvania with Moldavia and Wallachia for 1 year) , after this Transylvania was Austrian empire LOL
Hungary wasnt indepedent for ~ 300 years.

[Szegedist]

Are you retarded?
Transylvania was indepedence in 1541-1691 (in 1600 Mihai Viteazul united Transylvania with Moldavia and Wallachia for 1 year) , after this Transylvania was in Ottoman and Austrian empire LOL
.

Dear primitive romani-ian shepard. Transylvania became independent, sure. It was an independent Hungarian principality. First of was called Eastern Hungarian Kingdom, then Principality of Transylvania. It was as Hungarian as Prussia or Bavaria is German.

And the majority of the soldiers of Mihai Tiganazul were Szekler Hungarians who had some conflict with the nobility, and it was not unified, but a short lasting personal union.


Hungary wasnt indepedent for ~ 300 years
Romania hasnt even existed for 300 years

[blogen]

Are you retarded?
Transylvania was indepedence in 1541-1691 (in 1600 Mihai Viteazul united Transylvania with Moldavia and Wallachia for 1 year) , after this Transylvania was Austrian empire LOL
Hungary wasnt indepedent for ~ 300 years.

Transylvania was never independent, the Transylvanian princes never declared independence from the Hungarian crown (they did not have the right to this, the declaration of the independence did not exist before the French revolution, the suverenity was the owners right in the feudal regime and the owner of Transsylvania was the Hungarian Crown and the owner of the Hungarian Crown was St Stephens Crown), and Transylvania never was the part of the Austrian Empire. Transylvania was Regium Gubernium Transylvanicum in the 18-19th century, the [Hungarian] Kingdom's Governorship. And Mihai Viteazul never united Transylvania, Moldavia and Wallachia, their short rule was only a personalunion.

Sorry, I know that the Romanian education is terrible, but you should know this about the story of Transylvania! :picard1:

[Vlach]

Dear primitive romani-ian shepard. Transylvania became independent, sure. It was an independent Hungarian principality. First of was called Eastern Hungarian Kingdom, then Principality of Transylvania. It was as Hungarian as Prussia or Bavaria is German.
And the majority of the soldiers of Mihai Tiganazul were Szekler Hungarians who had some conflict with the nobility, and it was not unified, but a short lasting personal union.

The name of Romania doesnt exist
Btw this shepard guys fucked you in Posada and Baia.

Transylvania was never independent
HAHAHAHA you are so funnny ^.^, thats why you have 104 thumbs down =))) ?

Anyway, you said Transyvlania was in Hungary since 11-20 century =)), Austrian Empire and Ottoman Empire are Hungary? Or? I dont get the idea :(. Go back on your forum mongols.

[Szegedist]

The name of Romania doesnt exist
Btw this shepard guys fucked you in Posada and Baia.
And we fucked you so many times that its not even funny. Heck Wallachia and Moldavia were founded by Cuman nobles who rebelled from Hungarian rule. You were our vassals so many times its hard to count.



HAHAHAHA you are so funnny ^.^, thats why you have 104 thumbs down =))) ?
Maybe its why you have an IQ of 65



Anyway, you said Transyvlania was in Hungary since 11-20 century =)), Austrian Empire and Ottoman Empire are Hungary? Or? I dont get the idea :(. Go back on your forum mongols.
primitive romani-an hairy footed vlach, dont spout garbage if you dont know history.

[Corvus]

Are you retarded?
Transylvania was indepedence in 1541-1691 (in 1600 Mihai Viteazul united Transylvania with Moldavia and Wallachia for 1 year) , after this Transylvania was Austrian empire LOL
Hungary wasnt indepedent for ~ 300 years.

Finally a Romanian back on board, that promises some entertainment,
let the show begin :icon_lol:

[blogen]

HAHAHAHA you are so funnny ^.^, thats why you have 104 thumbs down =))) ?
Anyway, you said Transyvlania was in Hungary since 11-20 century =)), Austrian Empire and Ottoman Empire are Hungary? Or? I dont get the idea :(. Go back on your forum mongols.

Transylvania never seceded from the Hungarian Kingdom. Transylvania paid tax to the Ottomans and the Hungarian king was not able to vindicate his rights, but the Hungarian Kingdom never relinquish the area in the Hungarian Turkish treaties. Belonging to the kingdom was evidence for the Transylvanians and the reunification of the royal government was contiguous politics in both side.

And again, the status of the Transylvanian Grandprincipalty: Regium Gubernium Transylvanicum

Your ignorance is your problem Balkan guy!

ps. after 4 post, really? :)

[Szegedist]

Finally a Romanian back on board, that promises some entertainment,
let the show begin :icon_lol:

If only Stears was here to see this.

[Vlach]

And we fucked you so many times that its not even funny. Heck Wallachia and Moldavia were founded by Cuman nobles who rebelled from Hungarian rule. You were our vassals so many times its hard to count.


YES, Basarb and Stephen the Greath was your vassals and they fucked you in Posada and Baia ;)
And Mathias Corvin was a little bit romanian.
Why I dont know history? Arguing? Wheres the problem?
Carol Robert was half habsburg
Mathias was half romanian
Sigismund was german
Bozgorian Nation is the best \m/ \m/

[Szegedist]

YES, Basarb and Stephen the Greath was your vassals and they fucked you in Posada and Baia ;)
Dont you know what happened? The Romanians did not go to the aranged place, instead you hid in the forests and them attacked from ambush like the cowards that you are.


And Mathias Corvin was a little bit romanian.
He was a little bit cuman.


Why I dont know history? Arguing? Wheres the problem?
Carol Robert was half habsburg
Mathias was half romanian
Sigismund was german
This comment shows just how dumb you are, mixing ethnics with middle ages royal families. Dont forget that your royal family is German, not Romanian, primitive shepard.


Bozgorian Nation is the best \m/ \m/
Certainly better than the vlach non-"nation".

[Vlach]

He was a little bit cuman.

John Hunyadi was 100% romanian :), anyway i will stop replying :)

[Szegedist]

John Hunyadi was 100% romanian :), anyway i will stop replying :)

The whole world is 100% romanian :)

[Kiyant]

YES, Basarb and Stephen the Greath was your vassals and they fucked you in Posada and Baia ;)
And Mathias Corvin was a little bit romanian.
Why I dont know history? Arguing? Wheres the problem?
Carol Robert was half habsburg
Mathias was half romanian
Sigismund was german
Bozgorian Nation is the best \m/ \m/

I dont dislike Romanians but please do not steal our history cumans founded Wallachia and Moldavia.....

[Vlach]

I dont dislike Romanians but please do not steal our history cumans founded Wallachia and Moldavia.....

Is true... and??? I dont get the idea :(I have said Wallachia and Moldavia was founded by vlachs? Vlachs have chosen cumans to be their rulers because cumans was very good warriors...

[Mortimer]

Hungarians should get autonomy. If they have autonomy they are less likely to be discriminated and autonomous governing is not the same as seccession from the state

[Vlach]

Hungarians should get autonomy. If they have autonomy they are less likely to be discriminated and autonomous governing is not the same as seccession from the state

In szekelyland romanians are disriminated not hungarians ;)
And what about Timoc Valley?

[Aspirin]

Seems what Hungaro-Romanian conflicts on TA was more hardcore in the past. xD

https://vgif.ru/gifs/146/vgif-ru-19931.gif

[onetwopunch]

I don’t know whom to root for. Both are ex Ottoman and have good puss.