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7eleven
10-30-2013, 05:02 PM
Most likely fit is 56.7% (+- 15.0%) Europe (various subcontinents)
and 43.3% (+- 15.0%) Mideast (various subcontinents)

The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
most likely at the top
Irish= 0.507 Sephardic= 0.493 or
Spain= 0.833 Iranian= 0.167 or
Poland= 0.488 Sephardic= 0.512 or
Irish= 0.450 Jewish= 0.550 or
Spain= 0.772 Adygei= 0.228 or
Lithuania= 0.435 Sephardic= 0.565 or
English= 0.502 Jewish= 0.498 or
Poland= 0.432 Jewish= 0.568 or
Germany= 0.481 Jewish= 0.519 or
French= 0.771 Palestinia= 0.229
Second most likely fit is 43.4% (+- 5.8%) Europe (various subcontinents)
and 56.6% (+- 5.8%) Europe (all Southern Europe)
which is 100% total Europe

The following are possible population sets and their fractions,
most likely at the top
Irish= 0.418 Sicily= 0.582 or
Poland= 0.400 Sicily= 0.600 or
Lithuania= 0.350 Sicily= 0.650 or
Hungary= 0.547 Sicily= 0.453 or
Belorus= 0.403 Sicily= 0.597 or
Germany= 0.448 Sicily= 0.552 or
English= 0.469 Sicily= 0.531

but a custom fit and some of the scatter plots makes it very clear that
there is a lot of Jewish (Ashkenazy) in there. A custom fit gives:

English 0.5320 Jewish 0.4165 Druze 0.0514 or
Russian 0.1534 Spain 0.5167 Jewish 0.3299 or
Irish 0.3830 Tuscan 0.2378 Jewish 0.3792 or
French 0.5938 Chuvash 0.0336 Jewish 0.3726 or
Irish 0.4403 Sicily 0.1859 Jewish 0.3739 or
Irish 0.3485 Italian 0.2566 Jewish 0.3948 or
English 0.5015 Sicily 0.0998 Jewish 0.3987 or
English 0.5260 Jewish 0.4080 Cypriot 0.0660 or
English 0.5225 Jewish 0.3693 Sephardic 0.1082

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7eleven
10-30-2013, 11:54 PM
any thoughts?

Anglojew
10-31-2013, 12:00 AM
Mine;

Spain= 0.716 Adygei= 0.284 or

Germany= 0.460 Jewish= 0.540 or

English= 0.480 Jewish= 0.520 or

Poland= 0.413 Jewish= 0.587 or

Irish= 0.430 Jewish= 0.570 or

Hungary= 0.555 Jewish= 0.445 or

Lithuania= 0.363 Jewish= 0.637 or

Romania= 0.807 Jewish= 0.193 or

Romania= 0.840 Sephardic= 0.160 or

Hungary= 0.614 Sephardic= 0.386

Custom Fit:

English 0.5374 Jewish 0.4626 or

French 0.6020 Jewish 0.3980

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7eleven
10-31-2013, 12:13 AM
Mine;


Wow our results are very similar except I scored more Sephardic and Sicilian.

Anglojew
10-31-2013, 12:17 AM
Wow our results are very similar except I scored more Sephardic and Sicilian.

Yeah. Interesting.

StonyArabia
10-31-2013, 12:18 AM
Bro how knew are these results?

7eleven
10-31-2013, 12:25 AM
Bro how knew are these results?

Just got them today.

StonyArabia
11-19-2013, 05:54 AM
I would say it matches your ancestry quite well.

Maleficent
11-19-2013, 05:58 AM
McDonald needs to stop being so fucking Mideast-centric with his 'Jewish'(Ashkenazi) component. I even had to own this half-AJ dude in the 23andme forum the other day because he basically believes McDonald told him he's half-Levantine. No. Half AJ are 1/4 Levantine. I'm the real 1/2 Levantine. Now get the fuck over it.

Anglojew
11-19-2013, 06:42 AM
McDonald needs to stop being so fucking Mideast-centric with his 'Jewish'(Ashkenazi) component. I even had to own this half-AJ dude in the 23andme forum the other day because he basically believes McDonald told him he's half-Levantine. No. Half AJ are 1/4 Levantine. I'm the real 1/2 Levantine. Now get the fuck over it.

True. Palestinians range depending on their purity;

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Ish7688voT0/TAimWIpgDAI/AAAAAAAACao/0uuOXPXvqcQ/s1600/pc-jews.jpg

I bet your Dad plots with Druze and you with AJ

YeshAtid
11-19-2013, 06:43 AM
True. Palestinians range depending on their purity;

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Ish7688voT0/TAimWIpgDAI/AAAAAAAACao/0uuOXPXvqcQ/s1600/pc-jews.jpg

I bet you cluster close to Jews/Druze
Most Palis do, which is even more of a shame as to why peace can't be attained already

Mortimer
11-19-2013, 06:46 AM
he didnt gave me any jewish he said it might be 2000 years old

Maleficent
11-19-2013, 07:03 AM
True. Palestinians range depending on their purity;

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Ish7688voT0/TAimWIpgDAI/AAAAAAAACao/0uuOXPXvqcQ/s1600/pc-jews.jpg

I bet your Dad plots with Druze and you with AJ
That is correct. Although I'm slightly much closer to Greek and my dad is slightly much closer to Samaritan, but each overall pretty much the same cluster: AJ/Greek/Sicilian for me and Samaritan/Druze for my dad.

Tolga
11-26-2013, 09:34 PM
McDonald's analysis of my autosomal DNA:

Most likely fit is 88.4% (+- 1.9%) Mideast (all Jewish) and 11.6% (+- 1.9%) S. Asia (various subcontinents)

The following are possible population sets and their fractions, most likely at the top

Sephardic= 0.896 N_India= 0.104 or
Sephardic= 0.874 Sindhi= 0.126 or
Sephardic= 0.907 S_India= 0.093 or
Sephardic= 0.858 Pathan= 0.142

A custom fit says

Sephardic 0.3718 Palestinian 0.1469 Turkish 0.4813 or
Russian 0.0651 Cypriot 0.8630 S_India 0.0719 or
Chuvash 0.0513 Cypriot 0.8746 N_India 0.0740 or
Russian 0.0579 Cypriot 0.8596 N_India 0.0825 or
Chuvash 0.0554 Cypriot 0.8809 S_India 0.0637 or
Adygei 0.2908 Sephardic 0.5006 Palestinian 0.2087 or
Chuvash 0.0527 Cypriot 0.8544 Sindhi 0.0930 or
Russian 0.0580 Cypriot 0.8380 Sindhi 0.1040 or
Adygei 0.3335 Jewish 0.3335 Palestinian 0.3330 or
Hungary 0.0788 Cypriot 0.8423 S_India 0.0789


OR even better fit

Poland 0.0435 Sephardic 0.3406 Palestinian 0.1691 Turkish 0.4468 or
Lithuania 0.0375 Sephardic 0.3468 Palestinian 0.1679 Turkish 0.4478 or
Russian 0.0804 Palestinian 0.0840 Cypriot 0.7718 S_India 0.0639 or
Russian 0.0744 Palestinian 0.0871 Cypriot 0.7652 N_India 0.0733 or
Belorus 0.0420 Sephardic 0.3421 Palestinian 0.1682 Turkish 0.4477 or
Hungary 0.0565 Sephardic 0.3262 Palestinian 0.1688 Turkish 0.4485 or
Romania 0.0795 Sephardic 0.3120 Palestinian 0.1716 Turkish 0.4369 or
Sicily 0.2430 Jewish 0.1155 Palestinian 0.1900 Turkish 0.4516 or
Germany 0.0478 Sephardic 0.3292 Palestinian 0.1713 Turkish 0.4517 or
Russian 0.0683 Egyptian 0.0871 Cypriot 0.7391 Pathan 0.1055 or
Russian 0.0774 Egyptian 0.0788 Cypriot 0.7526 Sindhi 0.0912 or
Adygei 0.2308 Sephardic 0.5305 Palestinian 0.1904 Pathan 0.0483


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I've no known Jewish ancestry. My grandmother (mother of my father) is from Thessaloniki. By 1519, Sephardic Jews numbered 15,715, 54% of the city's population. My father's father is from Konya, Turkey. My mother's parents are both from Syria, but my grandmother is Circassian(Adyghe) from her father's side. I don't know how I supposed to interpret this results. I have similar results on the different calculators. I would like to hear your opinion.

MfA_
11-26-2013, 10:28 PM
Hi Tolga welcome to forum..
You are most likely not Jewish, McDonalds's algorithm isn't suitable for that job.. It is just your median results similar to Jews.. South Italians, Sicilians, Greeks are also similar to Jewish in that regard but they are not Jewish of course.. Are you on 23andMe or FTDNA? because 23andMe is quite decent on Jewish admixture..

Tolga
11-27-2013, 08:42 AM
Thanks. I've been tested by FTDNA, but I'm planning to order a 23andme test. I've heard that 23andme is only good at determining Ashkenazi ancestry. On FTDNA, I've got a speculative niece from Italy. Oracle of different calculators puts me down as Sephardic Jew(from Bulgaria, Turkey, Romania, Syria or Morocco), Cypriot or Island Greek.

Alessio
11-28-2013, 10:35 PM
Mc Donalds didn't want to run my raw data again..Why did he do it for you 7eleven?

I'm sending my FTDNA raw data when I have it with an other email adress..

And now look for the 7th dwarf:

http://s20.postimg.org/nd4e8w7ih/1461185_584220431645135_1438552281_n.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/nd4e8w7ih/)

Maleficent
02-26-2014, 06:52 PM
McDonald needs to stop being so fucking Mideast-centric with his 'Jewish'(Ashkenazi) component. I even had to own this half-AJ dude in the 23andme forum the other day because he basically believes McDonald told him he's half-Levantine. No. Half AJ are 1/4 Levantine. I'm the real 1/2 Levantine. Now get the fuck over it.Lol, I got a thumbs down for this I'm so freaking awesome.

Sikeliot
02-26-2014, 06:56 PM
I don't know why your "Mideast" dot is on Greece when Greece is not in the Middle East..

Carlito's Way
02-26-2014, 07:02 PM
And now look for the 7th dwarf:

http://s20.postimg.org/nd4e8w7ih/1461185_584220431645135_1438552281_n.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/nd4e8w7ih/)

im trying to but i cant find it haha

Alessio
02-26-2014, 08:05 PM
Yeah the second time I send my raw data from FTDN build 37 he could make nothing else out of it than half Sephardic Jewish half German hahahahaha!


Lol, I got a thumbs down for this I'm so freaking awesome.

Alessio
02-26-2014, 08:07 PM
im trying to but i cant find it haha

The thing is that you can never find it if you can't read Dutch. It says ''look for the sifting dwarf''

Alessio
02-26-2014, 08:10 PM
Dat heb ik ook bij sommige calculators, maar dan met een setting van 2 populaties aangezien ik half om half ben. Mc Donald is helemaal lijp, hij dacht de 2e keer (1e keer had ik raw data van 23andme gezonden) dat ik half Sefardisch was en half Duits. Nadat ik zei Italie, zei die ja dan ben je vast of Siciliaan of Calabrees. Hij rookt teveel crack denk ik.

QUOTE=Tolga;2136967]Thanks. I've been tested by FTDNA, but I'm planning to order a 23andme test. I've heard that 23andme is only good at determining Ashkenazi ancestry. On FTDNA, I've got a speculative niece from Italy. Oracle of different calculators puts me down as Sephardic Jew(from Bulgaria, Turkey, Romania, Syria or Morocco), Cypriot or Island Greek.[/QUOTE]

Maleficent
02-26-2014, 09:19 PM
I've no known Jewish ancestry. My grandmother (mother of my father) is from Thessaloniki. By 1519, Sephardic Jews numbered 15,715, 54% of the city's population. My father's father is from Konya, Turkey. My mother's parents are both from Syria, but my grandmother is Circassian(Adyghe) from her father's side. I don't know how I supposed to interpret this results. I have similar results on the different calculators. I would like to hear your opinion.Well when you describe it like that.......Why you have Jerusalem as your ancestry in your profile then?! Don't steal my ancestry, please.

YeshAtid
02-26-2014, 11:20 PM
Well when you describe it like that.......Why you have Jerusalem as your ancestry in your profile then?! Don't steal my ancestry, please.
Jerusalem is Israeli territory :picard2:

Maleficent
02-26-2014, 11:44 PM
Jerusalem is Israeli territory :picard2:

I don't care what it's recognized as according to whatever lame political borders. Did you know my grandparents and great-grandparents hometown village is only 13 miles north of Jerusalem? The same village my father's ancestry was for many millennia.

YeshAtid
02-26-2014, 11:49 PM
I don't care what it's recognized as according to whatever lame political borders. Did you know my grandparents and great-grandparents hometown village is only 13 miles north of Jerusalem? The same village my father's ancestry was for many millennia.
That is why peace cannot be achieved because of the Palestinians' reluctance to accept Israel 's right to exist. Jerusalem has been continually been inhabited by Jews since the Jewish religion originated and currently has a Jewish majority. Palestinian Jerusalemites are Arabian.

Carlito's Way
02-27-2014, 12:52 AM
The thing is that you can never find it if you can't read Dutch. It says ''look for the sifting dwarf''

so i found the suppose "dwarf" hahaha

Carlito's Way
02-27-2014, 12:53 AM
Jerusalem is Israeli territory :picard2:

i think its time to take down faeriequeene, we have given her way too many chances...

Alessio
02-27-2014, 01:52 AM
Yeah sorry mate, I was breaking my head over it too when I didn't take a good look at the text.


so i found the suppose "dwarf" hahaha

YeshAtid
03-01-2014, 11:13 PM
i think its time to take down faeriequeene, we have given her way too many chances...
Why?

Carlito's Way
03-01-2014, 11:16 PM
Why?

shes still not talking to Objectiverealist

Stormer99
03-01-2014, 11:17 PM
shes still not talking to Objectiverealist

Yes, just because she "got tired of me" :rolleyes:

Carlito's Way
03-01-2014, 11:18 PM
Yes, just because she "got tired of me" :rolleyes:

LOL :rolleyes:

do you think we should take her down?

Stormer99
03-01-2014, 11:19 PM
LOL :rolleyes:

do you think we should take her down?

Yes.

YeshAtid
03-01-2014, 11:21 PM
Yes, just because she "got tired of me" :rolleyes:
She's extremely infantile and spoilt, no?

Stormer99
03-01-2014, 11:21 PM
She's extremely infantile and spoilt, no?

Yes and very flaky too. She never talks to anyone she calls "friends" and then wonders why she can't keep them.

YeshAtid
03-01-2014, 11:22 PM
Yes and very flaky too. She never talks to anyone she calls "friends" and then wonders why she can't keep them.
If she's bothering you ignore her.