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  1. Sticky Thread Sticky: Size and Phenotypes

    Started by Curtis24, 10-20-2010 11:51 PM
    32 Pages •
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    breast size, height, height by country, weight 2 Attachment(s)
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    Jovem
    Jovem
    09-28-2024, 01:53 PM Go to last post

  2. Post Sticky Thread Sticky: Corded Type (Battle-Axe type)

    Started by CelticViking, 03-22-2012 08:54 PM
    56 Pages •
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    anglo saxons, corded, tronder 20 Attachment(s)
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    Beo242
    Beo242
    09-27-2024, 05:51 PM Go to last post

  3. Lightbulb Sticky Thread Sticky: Faelid/Fälid/Dalo-Falid Examples

    Started by CelticViking, 06-14-2012 07:17 AM
    81 Pages •
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    bad examples, examples, faelid 69 Attachment(s)
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    MobyD
    MobyD
    09-26-2024, 03:35 AM Go to last post

  4. Lightbulb Sticky Thread Sticky: Keltic Nordid examples

    Started by CelticViking, 06-14-2012 06:51 AM
    47 Pages •
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    examples, keltic nordid, keltic-nordid 44 Attachment(s)
    • Replies: 461
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    Beowulf
    Beowulf
    09-24-2024, 12:33 PM Go to last post

  5. Sticky Thread Sticky: Nose diversity in Europe

    Started by Captain Nemo, 11-29-2010 11:51 AM
    39 Pages •
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    anglo saxons, anglo-saxon, atlanto-nordid, borreby, brunn, dinarid, faelid, hallstatt nordid, keltic nordid, keltic-nordid, nordid, norid, north atlantid, nose, noses, paleo atlantid, sudanid, tronder 25 Attachment(s)
    • Replies: 385
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    Pepa
    Pepa
    09-10-2024, 10:35 PM Go to last post

  6. Sticky Thread Sticky: Borreby

    Started by The Alchemist, 12-07-2011 09:37 PM
    105 Pages •
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    borebb= anyone with receding hairline, borreby, borreby >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> west-baltid, borreby = faelid with too much calories, borreby is failed west baltid, borreby master race, dasr is no borreby, examples, reduced borreby, west baltids are better than borrebies 73 Attachment(s)
    • Replies: 1,049
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    TrevorXdX
    TrevorXdX
    09-04-2024, 01:19 AM Go to last post

  7. Lightbulb Sticky Thread Sticky: Atlanto-Mediterranid examples

    Started by CelticViking, 06-14-2012 06:33 AM
    88 Pages •
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    atlanto-mediterranid, examples 44 Attachment(s)
    • Replies: 870
    • Views: 565,562
    Anglo-Celtic
    Anglo-Celtic
    09-02-2024, 07:35 AM Go to last post

  8. Lightbulb Sticky Thread Sticky: Alpine/Alpinoid /Alpinid Examples

    Started by CelticViking, 06-13-2012 02:51 AM
    51 Pages •
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    alpignid master race, alpine, alpine race, alpinid, alpinid herrenrasse, alpinoid, examples 66 Attachment(s)
    • Replies: 508
    • Views: 431,269
    Please
    Please
    09-01-2024, 08:02 AM Go to last post

  9. Lightbulb Sticky Thread Sticky: Brunn Examples

    Started by CelticViking, 06-14-2012 06:39 AM
    48 Pages •
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    brunn, examples 36 Attachment(s)
    • Replies: 478
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    Paleolithic
    Paleolithic
    08-23-2024, 06:09 PM Go to last post

  10. Lightbulb Sticky Thread Sticky: Hallstatt Nordid Examples

    Started by CelticViking, 06-14-2012 05:10 AM
    79 Pages •
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    arn da emo fag, examples, hallstatt nordid, halstatt nordid, halstatt-nordid, im is hallstatt indid, snpa, society for nordish physical anthropology 77 Attachment(s)
    • Replies: 781
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    Lucas
    Lucas
    08-20-2024, 12:20 PM Go to last post

  11. Lightbulb Sticky Thread Sticky: Dinaric/Dinarid Examples

    Started by Foxy, 09-17-2011 09:52 AM
    135 Pages •
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    birds, dinaric, dinarid, dinarid and ost-europid porn, dinarid men have long dicks, dinarid type, dinarid women = transsexuals, dinarid=jew, dinarids have big noses lol, dinaro-cm is not dinarid example, duje is the coolest croatian i've ever met, dujew, duke is north african, examples, mymy have nice dinarid arse 79 Attachment(s)
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    Batavia
    Batavia
    08-19-2024, 06:06 PM Go to last post

  12. Lightbulb Sticky Thread Sticky: Sub-Nordid Examples

    Started by CelticViking, 06-13-2012 02:39 AM
    26 Pages •
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    examples, sub nordid, sub-nordid 24 Attachment(s)
    • Replies: 252
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    Vive_Dylan
    Vive_Dylan
    08-17-2024, 01:10 PM Go to last post

  13. Lightbulb Sticky Thread Sticky: East Baltid examples

    Started by CelticViking, 06-14-2012 05:59 AM
    44 Pages •
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    cuties, east baltid, east baltid > baltid, east baltid = baltid + pig, east baltid = baltid with retardation, east baltid = fail, east baltids are cute!, east baltids are ugly, east baltids look like pigs, examples, hail norway & sweden/fuck finnics, short legs, west baltid >>>>>>> east baltid, western superiority 15 Attachment(s)
    • Replies: 436
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    SudanGuy
    SudanGuy
    08-17-2024, 08:32 AM Go to last post

  14. Sticky Thread Sticky: Gracile Mediterranid Examples

    Started by Robocop, 12-09-2017 12:22 AM
    37 Pages •
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    small med, southern europeans 31 Attachment(s)
    • Replies: 367
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    Eurafricanid
    Eurafricanid
    07-28-2024, 09:10 PM Go to last post

  15. Lightbulb Sticky Thread Sticky: Berid Examples

    Started by CelticViking, 06-14-2012 06:23 AM
    35 Pages •
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    berid, berids, examples 65 Attachment(s)
    • Replies: 342
    • Views: 245,167
    Xacal
    Xacal
    07-19-2024, 11:16 PM Go to last post

  16. Lightbulb Sticky Thread Sticky: Paleo-Atlantid examples

    Started by The Blade, 09-19-2016 07:09 PM
    53 Pages •
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    paleo atlantid 39 Attachment(s)
    • Replies: 525
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    TrevorXdX
    TrevorXdX
    07-19-2024, 03:34 AM Go to last post

  17. Lightbulb Sticky Thread Sticky: Gorid Examples

    Started by CelticViking, 06-14-2012 04:43 PM
    13 Pages •
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    east alpinid/gorid = baltid with too much melanin, examples, gorid 19 Attachment(s)
    • Replies: 120
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    Immanenz
    Immanenz
    07-04-2024, 05:32 PM Go to last post

  18. Sticky Thread Sticky: Pontid type

    Started by Mordid, 10-11-2010 10:32 PM
    65 Pages •
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    examples, pontid, vojnik = albo in denial 30 Attachment(s)
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    Blaise
    Blaise
    06-29-2024, 03:27 PM Go to last post

  19. Sticky Thread Sticky: North Pontid Type

    Started by Mordid, 08-15-2010 11:01 AM
    53 Pages •
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    examples, mordid's favourite thread, mordoids, north pontid, north-pontid 32 Attachment(s)
    • Replies: 528
    • Views: 450,626
    Blaise
    Blaise
    06-24-2024, 09:02 PM Go to last post

  20. Lightbulb Sticky Thread Sticky: Norid/Noric examples

    Started by CelticViking, 06-14-2012 09:42 AM
    49 Pages •
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    big nosed nordids, examples, geni is genius, noric, norid 27 Attachment(s)
    • Replies: 482
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    Marco1900
    Marco1900
    06-18-2024, 10:01 PM Go to last post

  21. Lightbulb Sticky Thread Sticky: Baltid examples

    Started by CelticViking, 06-14-2012 10:31 AM
    53 Pages •
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    baltid, baltid boobs, examples, more soap 24 Attachment(s)
    • Replies: 526
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    Blaise
    Blaise
    06-13-2024, 01:12 PM Go to last post

  22. Lightbulb Sticky Thread Sticky: The Baskid type

    Started by CelticViking, 06-14-2012 06:03 AM
    16 Pages •
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    baskid, examples 9 Attachment(s)
    • Replies: 157
    • Views: 263,812
    Xacal
    Xacal
    05-29-2024, 08:50 PM Go to last post

  23. Lightbulb Sticky Thread Sticky: Bell Beaker examples

    Started by Goswinus, 11-14-2008 10:06 AM
    10 Pages •
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    bell beaker, bell beaker type, bell beakers, examples 2 Attachment(s)
    • Replies: 93
    • Views: 130,081
    HectorOfTroy
    HectorOfTroy
    05-11-2024, 06:52 AM Go to last post

  24. Poll Sticky Thread Sticky: Poll: hair/eye color and phenotype

    Started by Laudanum, 07-11-2009 07:59 PM
    139 Pages •
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    amber eyes, balck hair curse, black eyes, black hair, blonde hair, blue eyes, brown eyes, brown eyes curse, brown hair, brunette, dark hair, eye color, eye colour, eyes, green eyes, grey eyes, hair, hair color, hair colour, hazel eyes, inb4 maroon5 & 2012, red hair, the vampire diaries 37 Attachment(s)
    • Replies: 1,389
    • Views: 425,692
    Pepa
    Pepa
    05-07-2024, 11:14 PM Go to last post

  25. Sticky Thread Sticky: humanphenotypes.net (former www.humanphenotypes.com)

    Started by Curtis24, 01-14-2013 05:59 AM
    80 Pages •
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    19 Attachment(s)
    • Replies: 792
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    thewildsouth
    thewildsouth
    04-25-2024, 09:24 PM Go to last post

  26. Sticky Thread Sticky: Atlantid examples

    Started by SilverFish, 11-14-2009 07:10 AM
    71 Pages •
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    atlantid, castilian+turkish, castilians and madrilians = gay niggers, castilians are darker than the portuguese, castilians are the darkest europeans, castilians are the darkest pseudo-europeans, examples, madrilians are the darkest europeans, madriliean+turkish, spaniards = gay niggers, spaniards are the darkest europeans 36 Attachment(s)
    • Replies: 709
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    DraviXi99
    DraviXi99
    03-17-2024, 02:27 PM Go to last post

  27. Lightbulb Sticky Thread Sticky: North Atlantid/Atlanto-Nordid Examples

    Started by CelticViking, 06-14-2012 05:15 AM
    34 Pages •
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    atlanto-nordid, examples, northern atlantid 26 Attachment(s)
    • Replies: 333
    • Views: 318,015
    DraviXi99
    DraviXi99
    02-20-2024, 07:52 PM Go to last post

  28. Lightbulb Sticky Thread Sticky: Kurganoid type, Balto-Cro-Magnon Examples

    Started by CelticViking, 07-18-2012 04:38 AM
    20 Pages •
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    balto-cro-magnon, examples, kurganoid type 27 Attachment(s)
    • Replies: 195
    • Views: 203,772
    ImpishTears
    ImpishTears
    01-12-2024, 03:14 AM Go to last post

  29. Lightbulb Sticky Thread Sticky: Tronder Examples

    Started by CelticViking, 06-14-2012 06:29 AM
    65 Pages •
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    dde, examples, her bli det liv - rai rai!, hold brillan, tronder, trønderrock, ubermenchen 21 Attachment(s)
    • Replies: 642
    • Views: 476,570
    Oswaldo
    Oswaldo
    01-05-2024, 05:06 PM Go to last post

  30. Lightbulb Sticky Thread Sticky: Anglo-Saxon Examples

    Started by Siginulfo, 10-08-2011 05:02 PM
    83 Pages •
    1 2 3 ... 83
    anglo saxon, anglo-saxon, examples 69 Attachment(s)
    • Replies: 827
    • Views: 574,272
    Regnera
    Regnera
    12-29-2023, 03:31 AM Go to last post

  31. Lightbulb Sticky Thread Sticky: East Nordid examples

    Started by CelticViking, 06-14-2012 05:54 AM
    86 Pages •
    1 2 3 ... 86
    blonde, churkas envy, east nordic, east nordid, east nordid better than others nordids, east-nordid, examples, finland, finns, gayish pictures, jews envy, nordic, russia, russians, typical russian 38 Attachment(s)
    • Replies: 856
    • Views: 623,440
    SocietyIslands
    SocietyIslands
    12-25-2023, 12:42 AM Go to last post

  32. Sticky Thread Sticky: Strandid sub-race

    Started by Siginulfo, 12-09-2011 01:21 PM
    6 Pages •
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    examples, strandid 9 Attachment(s)
    • Replies: 55
    • Views: 123,976
    SocietyIslands
    SocietyIslands
    12-12-2023, 03:02 PM Go to last post

  33. Lightbulb Sticky Thread Sticky: West-Baltid Examples

    Started by CelticViking, 06-14-2012 04:57 PM
    31 Pages •
    1 2 3 ... 31
    belarusians, examples, freak show central, latvians, lithuanians, omg freaks, poles, soap, ukrainians, west baltid, west baltid = baltid on steroid, west baltids ×1000 better than ugly east baltids, western superiority 22 Attachment(s)
    • Replies: 304
    • Views: 271,663
    Regnera
    Regnera
    09-28-2023, 02:25 AM Go to last post

  34. Question Sticky Thread Sticky: Hairy & Anthropology

    Started by Brynhild, 10-11-2009 09:43 PM
    79 Pages •
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    beards, body hair, chewbaccas are real, hair, hairy, sasquatches, walking carpets, yeti is hot 30 Attachment(s)
    • Replies: 789
    • Views: 308,177
    cj_227
    cj_227
    08-10-2023, 05:26 PM Go to last post

  35. Lightbulb Sticky Thread Sticky: Mediterranid Examples

    Started by CelticViking, 06-14-2012 06:25 AM
    27 Pages •
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    examples, mediterranid, mediterranid=baby atlanto-meds 34 Attachment(s)
    • Replies: 265
    • Views: 314,339
    Thomas Anderson
    Thomas Anderson
    08-03-2023, 02:36 AM Go to last post

  36. Sticky Thread Sticky: Western European phenotypes/subraces

    Started by Rouxinol, 12-16-2012 03:06 PM
    16 Pages •
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    • Replies: 157
    • Views: 172,771
    Smaug
    Smaug
    06-26-2023, 11:39 PM Go to last post

  37. Sticky Thread Sticky: Epicanthic fold

    Started by Barreldriver, 06-25-2009 05:40 PM
    18 Pages •
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    epicanthic folds, lappid, sámi 9 Attachment(s)
    • Replies: 170
    • Views: 227,127
    Token
    Token
    06-15-2023, 05:23 PM Go to last post

  38. Sticky Thread Sticky: Iranian Nordoid examples

    Started by Wolverine, 04-05-2013 07:33 PM
    48 Pages •
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    17 Attachment(s)
    • Replies: 472
    • Views: 296,539
    Boudin
    Boudin
    05-21-2023, 10:49 AM Go to last post

  39. Sticky Thread Sticky: Iranid/Irano-CM examples

    Started by The Blade, 04-14-2018 11:49 AM
    7 Pages •
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    iranid, irano-afghan, irano-cm, robust iranid 10 Attachment(s)
    • Replies: 68
    • Views: 75,865
    Boudin
    Boudin
    05-20-2023, 10:00 PM Go to last post

  40. Lightbulb Sticky Thread Sticky: Kelto-Saxon Examples

    Started by CelticViking, 06-14-2012 06:56 AM
    15 Pages •
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    anglo-saxon, examples, keltic-nordid, kelto-saxon 31 Attachment(s)
    • Replies: 147
    • Views: 179,905
    Avicenna
    Avicenna
    05-20-2023, 04:37 PM Go to last post

  41. Lightbulb Sticky Thread Sticky: Kelto-Brunn examples

    Started by CelticViking, 06-14-2012 06:42 AM
    11 Pages •
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    brunn, examples, keltic nordid, kelto-brunn 27 Attachment(s)
    • Replies: 105
    • Views: 153,903
    Boudin
    Boudin
    04-08-2023, 08:46 AM Go to last post

  42. Poll Sticky Thread Sticky: Poll: Is your blood type Rhesus Positive or Negative?

    Started by Loki, 11-01-2017 08:38 AM
    13 Pages •
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    • Replies: 123
    • Views: 58,324
    paradox
    paradox
    01-03-2023, 11:04 PM Go to last post

  43. Sticky Thread Sticky: The Tydal type

    Started by Pallantides, 07-17-2010 12:12 AM
    7 Pages •
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    aboriginal scandinavians, central scandinavia, examples, paleo-atlantid, tydal, tydal ? 1 Attachment(s)
    • Replies: 60
    • Views: 139,086
    Roy
    Roy
    08-08-2022, 01:26 PM Go to last post

  44. Poll Sticky Thread Sticky: Poll: Are some classifications more prestigious than others? Cast your vote.

    Started by Prisoner Of Ice, 04-24-2014 07:26 AM
    9 Pages •
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    • Replies: 82
    • Views: 68,955
    Odelia
    Odelia
    11-12-2021, 03:43 AM Go to last post

  45. Sticky Thread Sticky: Female Exemplars

    Started by Psychonaut, 01-14-2009 11:08 PM
    20 Pages •
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    beautiful girls, beautiful women, white woman 96 Attachment(s)
    • Replies: 199
    • Views: 274,972
    Xacal
    Xacal
    10-30-2021, 08:35 AM Go to last post

  1. Poll Poll: She look more Circassian or more Georgian

    Started by interes, 06-16-2024 04:15 PM
    • Replies: 6
    • Views: 385
    interes
    interes
    Today, 06:15 AM Go to last post

  2. Are Belgians Nordic?

    Started by Stryglogg, 09-27-2022 10:36 PM
    82 Pages •
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    4 Attachment(s)
    • Replies: 812
    • Views: 65,586
    Golovozhop
    Golovozhop
    Today, 05:46 AM Go to last post

  3. What phenotype whould you classify this as?

    Started by Eurafricanid, Yesterday 06:17 PM
    • Replies: 3
    • Views: 79
    NSXD60
    NSXD60
    Today, 03:28 AM Go to last post

  4. Poll Poll: Are Spaniards closer to Moroccans than to Swedes?

    Started by Mordid, 02-04-2012 10:44 PM
    70 Pages •
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    balkans are more similar to moors than spaniards, cleemont is an ignorant scumbag, close this usueless thread!, cunts united, falkata's moroccan wife approves this thread!, iberia = greater morocco, iberians = europeanised moors, ibericus get laid with moroccan pussy tonight, nordic arabs controversy, people are ganging up on spainarabs, spaniard cum all over sadie, spaniards bitching as always, stupid thread is stupid, troll, trolling, waaaaaaa, whiny like a baby 1 Attachment(s)
    • Replies: 691
    • Views: 85,949
    Ketchup
    Ketchup
    Today, 01:36 AM Go to last post

  5. Who do you think Hungarians as whole look like?

    Started by Hungarian_master, 09-30-2024 08:32 AM
    3 Pages •
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    • Replies: 21
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    Iva1
    Iva1
    Today, 12:41 AM Go to last post

  6. Poll Poll: Who can pass better in the Levant, Sicilians or Turks?

    Started by Richard Alvarez, Yesterday 04:51 PM
    • Replies: 1
    • Views: 92
    Richard Alvarez
    Richard Alvarez
    Yesterday, 07:59 PM Go to last post

  7. Was Madison Grant right in that the alpine race originated in central Asia?

    Started by Oliver109, 10-04-2024 04:25 PM
    2 Pages •
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    • Replies: 16
    • Views: 337
    Oliver109
    Oliver109
    Yesterday, 07:56 PM Go to last post

  8. Poll Poll: Do Bavarians look more like Scandinavians or Italians?

    Started by Richard Alvarez, 09-03-2024 09:41 PM
    16 Pages •
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    2 Attachment(s)
    • Replies: 151
    • Views: 5,096
    Septentrion
    Septentrion
    Yesterday, 07:45 PM Go to last post

  9. Can you please help me with exemples of Pontid+Gorid mix?<3

    Started by Ekjee, Yesterday 06:36 PM
    • Replies: 0
    • Views: 27
    Ekjee
    Ekjee
    Yesterday, 06:36 PM Go to last post

  10. What is the explanation for Nordic people being able to tan so easily, like this Scandinavian woman?

    Started by geneticmarker, 09-23-2024 04:08 PM
    3 Pages •
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    • Replies: 23
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    Septentrion
    Septentrion
    Yesterday, 06:36 PM Go to last post

  11. Ethnically speaking why are the Balkan borrebies often lighter than the alpines of France?

    Started by Oliver109, 09-12-2024 03:47 PM
    12 Pages •
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    1 Attachment(s)
    • Replies: 115
    • Views: 3,341
    Septentrion
    Septentrion
    Yesterday, 06:32 PM Go to last post

  12. Homo ergaster (African Homo erectus) reconstruction

    Started by zassus, 10-01-2024 10:24 PM
    • Replies: 5
    • Views: 181
    Mopi Licinius Crassus
    Mopi Licinius Crassus
    Yesterday, 05:13 PM Go to last post

  13. Poll Poll: Out of Ashkenazi Jews and Greek Cypriots, who is actually more Levantine?

    Started by Richard Alvarez, Yesterday 01:43 PM
    • Replies: 0
    • Views: 78
    Richard Alvarez
    Richard Alvarez
    Yesterday, 01:43 PM Go to last post

  14. Would it be possible for people to post Slavic looking people from Greece?

    Started by Oliver109, 09-30-2024 11:20 AM
    • Replies: 5
    • Views: 209
    Tooting Carmen
    Tooting Carmen
    10-04-2024, 11:38 PM Go to last post

  15. Aryan ranking of Europeans

    Started by Sunil, 07-01-2024 12:37 PM
    11 Pages •
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    • Replies: 102
    • Views: 6,748
    masoebu
    masoebu
    10-04-2024, 11:30 PM Go to last post

  16. Poll Poll: Was Agrippa the king of anthropology?

    Started by Loki, 12-22-2013 04:47 PM
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