Eastern European +POL+FIN+BALTICS+RUSSIA; G25 test -- zero NW European samples

Try this if you are a W/NW European to see potentially which components you share most genetic affinity with from the east.

My first sample are coordinates taken from the exploreyourdna.com website for "modern averaged individuals" from the following places:

Belarus
Bulgaria
Moldova
Poland
Romania
Russia
Volga
Slovakia
Ukraine
Finland
Saami
Siberia: W+E
Arctic Chukchi
Baltics: LITH, LAT, EST
Mongolia: Mongolian, Buryat, + Oroqen

These are my results:


Target: Brad_scaled
Distance: 4.2843% / 0.04284335

39.6 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Finnish
39.0 Balkan:Romanian
21.4 Carpathian_Basin:Slovakian

I get the same results with ADC .25x, .5x, 1x.

Use SCALED G25 coords as your target. Post results please. Thanks.

I'm trying a pastebin for first time:

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Target: Dušan_g25
Distance: 1.2807% / 0.01280686
49.2 Balkan:Romanian
26.6 East_Europe:Russian_West
17.8 Balkan:Bulgarian
4.8 Baltic_States:Lithuanian
1.6 Volga_Ural:Mari


Target: Dušan_g25
Distance: 1.2923% / 0.01292290 | ADC: 0.25x RC
66.4 Balkan:Romanian
32.2 East_Europe:Russian_West
1.4 Volga_Ural:Mari





Distance to: Dušan_g25
0.02928790 Balkan:Romanian
0.03660574 Balkan:Bulgarian
0.03932634 East_Europe:Ukrainian_West
0.04183760 Carpathian_Basin:Slovakian
0.05058253 Central_Europe: Polish
0.05257529 East_Europe:Russian_West
0.05457144 East_Europe:Ukrainian_East
0.06713495 East_Europe:Belarusian
0.07741170 Volga_Ural:Mordovian
0.08525664 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Finnish

Parents+wife+friend results (for a variety)...my mother is over half eastern European, but the other three have little to none (my father has a little Wendish admixture, but is otherwise NW Euro). My wife is Latina, friend is Western Euro descent.

Target: CordedFather_scaled
Distance: 3.5650% / 0.03564970
47.0 Balkan
37.4 Finland_Karelia_Ingria
15.6 Carpathian_Basin

Distance to: CordedFather_scaled
0.04632630 Carpathian_Basin:Slovakian
0.04785746 East_Europe:Ukrainian_West
0.05073902 Central_Europe:Polish
0.05928640 Balkan:Romanian
0.06036255 East_Europe:Ukrainian_East
0.06323381 East_Europe:Russian_West
0.06798985 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Finnish
0.06866421 East_Europe:Belarusian
0.06940271 Balkan:Bulgarian
0.07833405 Baltic_States:Estonian
0.07934686 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Ingrian
0.08274825 Baltic_States:Lithuanian
0.08275187 Volga_Ural:Mordovian
0.08791181 East_Europe:Russian_Northwest
0.09260635 Baltic_States:Latvian

Target: CordedMother_scaled
Distance: 1.6046% / 0.01604603
29.2 Balkan
27.2 Central_Europe
23.0 Carpathian_Basin
20.6 Finland_Karelia_Ingria

Distance to: CordedMother_scaled
0.02417770 East_Europe:Ukrainian_West
0.02526803 Carpathian_Basin:Slovakian
0.02791466 Central_Europe:Polish
0.03651318 East_Europe:Ukrainian_East
0.03660109 East_Europe:Russian_West
0.04595511 East_Europe:Belarusian
0.05590491 Balkan:Romanian
0.05843961 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Finnish
0.05947019 Baltic_States:Estonian
0.06191529 Volga_Ural:Mordovian
0.06295198 Baltic_States:Lithuanian
0.06374259 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Ingrian
0.06577107 Balkan:Bulgarian
0.06969229 East_Europe:Russian_Northwest
0.07261725 Baltic_States:Latvian

Target: CordedWife_scaled
Distance: 13.7283% / 0.13728256
70.2 Balkan
29.8 Arctic

Distance to: CordedWife_scaled
0.17088921 Volga_Ural:Tatar
0.19706719 Sápmi_Lapland:Saami
0.19813549 Volga_Ural:Chuvash
0.19924994 Volga_Ural:Bashkir
0.20745590 Volga_Ural:Mordovian
0.20941848 East_Europe:Russian_Northwest
0.21350873 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Karelian
0.21666950 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Ingrian
0.21719120 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Finnish
0.21823626 Balkan:Romanian
0.21885249 Balkan:Bulgarian
0.22029169 Volga_Ural:Mari
0.22514759 Carpathian_Basin:Slovakian
0.22727717 East_Europe:Ukrainian_West
0.22904086 East_Europe:Ukrainian_East

Target: CordedFriend_scaled
Distance: 5.0810% / 0.05080955
61.4 Balkan
35.4 Carpathian_Basin
3.2 Finland_Karelia_Ingria

Distance to: CordedFriend_scaled
0.05648732 Balkan:Romanian
0.06295100 Carpathian_Basin:Slovakian
0.06472513 Balkan:Bulgarian
0.07327473 East_Europe:Ukrainian_West
0.07648840 Central_Europe:Polish
0.08660966 East_Europe:Russian_West
0.08756062 East_Europe:Ukrainian_East
0.09602802 East_Europe:Belarusian
0.09834952 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Finnish
0.10503945 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Ingrian
0.10544764 Volga_Ural:Mordovian
0.10615694 Baltic_States:Estonian
0.10997524 Baltic_States:Lithuanian
0.11266197 East_Europe:Russian_Northwest
0.11882519 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Karelian

Target: cass
Distance: 1.5466% / 0.01546637
53.6 Central_Europe
22.0 Carpathian_Basin
13.2 Finland_Karelia_Ingria
11.2 Balkan

Distance to: MauriJussi1m_scaled
0.02296230 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Ingrian
0.02423292 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Finnish
0.03490937 Baltic_States:Estonian
0.03564881 East_Europe:Russian_Northwest
0.03651008 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Karelian
0.03704693 Volga_Ural:Mordovian
0.04318364 East_Europe:Belarusian
0.04350126 Central_Europe:Polish
0.04532423 East_Europe:Ukrainian_East
0.04629233 East_Europe:Russian_West
0.04939714 Baltic_States:Lithuanian
0.05111364 Carpathian_Basin:Slovakian
0.05224658 East_Europe:Ukrainian_West
0.05387600 Baltic_States:Latvian
0.09873992 Balkan:Romanian
0.10742068 Balkan:Bulgarian
0.14853898 Volga_Ural:Tatar
0.14908903 Volga_Ural:Chuvash
0.14927000 Sápmi_Lapland:Saami
0.20180480 Volga_Ural:Mari
0.22574106 Volga_Ural:Bashkir
0.32876965 West_Siberia:Khanty
0.33476699 West_Siberia:Ket
0.41019068 West_Siberia:Selkup
0.41984949 West_Siberia:Altaian

Typically I get 0.005-0.007 distances when West Euros are included.

Target: MauriJussi1m_scaled
Distance: 1.4248% / 0.01424779
77.0 Finland_Karelia_Ingria
20.6 Carpathian_Basin
1.4 Baltic_States
1.0 Volga_Ural

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen

Distance to: MauriJussi1m_scaled
0.02296230 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Ingrian
0.02423292 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Finnish
0.03490937 Baltic_States:Estonian
0.03564881 East_Europe:Russian_Northwest
0.03651008 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Karelian
0.03704693 Volga_Ural:Mordovian
0.04318364 East_Europe:Belarusian
0.04350126 Central_Europe:Polish
0.04532423 East_Europe:Ukrainian_East
0.04629233 East_Europe:Russian_West
0.04939714 Baltic_States:Lithuanian
0.05111364 Carpathian_Basin:Slovakian
0.05224658 East_Europe:Ukrainian_West
0.05387600 Baltic_States:Latvian
0.09873992 Balkan:Romanian
0.10742068 Balkan:Bulgarian
0.14853898 Volga_Ural:Tatar
0.14908903 Volga_Ural:Chuvash
0.14927000 Sápmi_Lapland:Saami
0.20180480 Volga_Ural:Mari
0.22574106 Volga_Ural:Bashkir
0.32876965 West_Siberia:Khanty
0.33476699 West_Siberia:Ket
0.41019068 West_Siberia:Selkup
0.41984949 West_Siberia:Altaian

Typically I get 0.005-0.007 distances when West Euros are included.

Target: MauriJussi1m_scaled
Distance: 1.4248% / 0.01424779
77.0 Finland_Karelia_Ingria
20.6 Carpathian_Basin
1.4 Baltic_States
1.0 Volga_Ural

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Does it look accurate %-wise though? Forget distance for now.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by ScandinavianCelt

Does it look accurate %-wise though? Forget distance for now.

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It look reasonable. As our Russian colleagues have kindly informed us, the Ingrians were South Finns moved to the St. Petersburg region during the Swedish-Russian wars. Obviously this happened before Peter the Great and before St. Petersburg was founded. They are recently died out. They are different people than Inkeriläiset in Finnish who lived a half way to Moscow. Ingrians in Finnish inkerikot. Your Finns are probably Southwest Finns. The rest looks possible

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen

It look reasonable. As our Russian colleagues have kindly informed us, the Ingrians were South Finns moved to the St. Petersburg region during the Swedish-Russian wars. Obviously this happened before Peter the Great and before St. Petersburg was founded. They are recently died out. They are different people than Inkeriläiset in Finnish who lived a half way to Moscow. Ingrians in Finnish inkerikot. Your Finns are probably Southwest Finns. The rest looks possible

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You guys can try it without Poland and Finland in there and see what you get

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen

It look reasonable. As our Russian colleagues have kindly informed us, the Ingrians were South Finns moved to the St. Petersburg region during the Swedish-Russian wars. Obviously this happened before Peter the Great and before St. Petersburg was founded. They are recently died out. They are different people than Inkeriläiset in Finnish who lived a half way to Moscow. Ingrians in Finnish inkerikot. Your Finns are probably Southwest Finns. The rest looks possible

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If I take off Poland and Finland this is what I get


Target: Brad_scaled
Distance: 4.7735% / 0.04773524 | ADC: 0.25x RC

67.2 Carpathian_Basin:Slovakian
27.2 Balkan:Romanian
5.6 Sápmi_Lapland:Saami

Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 4.7674% / 0.04767371
47.2 Balkan:Romanian
35.2 Carpathian_Basin:Slovakian
17.6 Finland_Karelia_Ingria:Finnish