Arnold Schoenberg's son's GEDmatch results

Kit T456608

7/8 Ashkenazi, 1/8 Central European

(The Schoenberg family has published this all on Geni.com already, I'm not revealing anything that's not already publicly available)

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 28.72
2 West_Med 18.73
3 West_Asian 11.91
4 Atlantic 11.54
5 Red_Sea 8.15
6 North_Sea 6.91
7 Eastern_Euro 5.41
8 Baltic 4.73
9 Northeast_African 1.43
10 Southeast_Asian 1.26
11 South_Asian 0.71
12 Sub-Saharan 0.51

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ashkenazi 5.3
2 East_Sicilian 5.42
3 South_Italian 6.45
4 Italian_Jewish 6.48
5 Central_Greek 6.59
6 Algerian_Jewish 7.1
7 Sephardic_Jewish 7.19
8 West_Sicilian 7.49
9 Italian_Abruzzo 8.8
10 Greek 10.28
11 Tunisian_Jewish 10.94
12 Greek_Thessaly 11.09
13 Libyan_Jewish 12.17
14 Tuscan 12.74
15 Cyprian 13.7
16 Lebanese_Muslim 17.33
17 Syrian 17.41
18 Bulgarian 17.92
19 North_Italian 18.89
20 Samaritan 19.36

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 60.1% Ashkenazi + 39.9% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.23
2 82.2% Algerian_Jewish + 17.8% Moldavian @ 3.65
3 63.5% Algerian_Jewish + 36.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.8
4 58.7% Ashkenazi + 41.3% Italian_Jewish @ 3.8
5 76.7% Algerian_Jewish + 23.3% Romanian @ 3.84
6 74.6% Algerian_Jewish + 25.4% Bulgarian @ 3.88
7 87.6% Algerian_Jewish + 12.4% Erzya @ 3.91
8 79.2% Algerian_Jewish + 20.8% Serbian @ 3.94
9 89.9% Ashkenazi + 10.1% Sardinian @ 3.95
10 89.1% Italian_Jewish + 10.9% Erzya @ 3.96
11 63% Ashkenazi + 37% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.97
12 83.7% Algerian_Jewish + 16.3% Croatian @ 4.01
13 61.8% Algerian_Jewish + 38.2% Greek @ 4.02
14 63.5% Sephardic_Jewish + 36.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.03
15 86.3% Algerian_Jewish + 13.7% Ukrainian @ 4.04
16 87.5% Algerian_Jewish + 12.5% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.04
17 86.9% Algerian_Jewish + 13.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.05
18 86.1% Algerian_Jewish + 13.9% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.07
19 65.2% Italian_Jewish + 34.8% Greek @ 4.08
20 62% East_Sicilian + 38% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.09

https://i.imgur.com/AqbqyHd.png

The Central European is barely detectable, he's a full Jew to me

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 37.3
2 West_Med 23.29
3 North_Atlantic 11.98
4 Baltic 8.89
5 West_Asian 8.72
6 Red_Sea 5.59
7 East_Asian 1.31
8 Sub-Saharan 1.03
9 South_Asian 0.87
10 Northeast_African 0.65
11 Siberian 0.37

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Algerian_Jewish 5.82
2 Ashkenazi 6.15
3 Italian_Jewish 7.3
4 South_Italian 8.83
5 East_Sicilian 8.99
6 Sephardic_Jewish 9.18
7 Central_Greek 10.35
8 Tunisian_Jewish 10.78
9 West_Sicilian 11.15
10 Libyan_Jewish 11.4
11 Cyprian 13.67
12 Italian_Abruzzo 13.78
13 Greek_Thessaly 14.32
14 Tuscan 17.27
15 Lebanese_Muslim 18.58
16 Samaritan 18.96
17 Syrian 19.57
18 Lebanese_Christian 20.4
19 Tunisian 20.65
20 Palestinian 20.78

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 52.9% Algerian_Jewish + 47.1% Ashkenazi @ 4.33
2 93.1% Algerian_Jewish + 6.9% Erzya @ 4.44
3 92.6% Algerian_Jewish + 7.4% Southwest_Russian @ 4.44
4 92.9% Algerian_Jewish + 7.1% Estonian_Polish @ 4.44
5 93.5% Algerian_Jewish + 6.5% Lithuanian @ 4.44
6 93% Algerian_Jewish + 7% Belorussian @ 4.47
7 92.7% Algerian_Jewish + 7.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.49
8 92.3% Algerian_Jewish + 7.7% Ukrainian @ 4.5
9 93% Algerian_Jewish + 7% Russian_Smolensk @ 4.51
10 93.3% Algerian_Jewish + 6.7% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.54
11 86.1% Algerian_Jewish + 13.9% Bulgarian @ 4.59
12 93.8% Algerian_Jewish + 6.2% Estonian @ 4.6
13 92.4% Algerian_Jewish + 7.6% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.62
14 93.1% Algerian_Jewish + 6.9% Polish @ 4.62
15 92.6% Algerian_Jewish + 7.4% South_Polish @ 4.63
16 91.4% Algerian_Jewish + 8.6% Croatian @ 4.65
17 93.9% Algerian_Jewish + 6.1% East_Finnish @ 4.65
18 90.8% Algerian_Jewish + 9.2% Moldavian @ 4.67
19 79.6% Algerian_Jewish + 20.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.67
20 94.1% Algerian_Jewish + 5.9% Finnish @ 4.75


What does he look like?

More over it's not detectable but if anything out of normal variation his results look more like half Sephardic or some other Jewish groups that aren't Ashkenazi.

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Originally Posted by Bobby Martnen

Kit T456608

7/8 Ashkenazi, 1/8 Central European

(The Schoenberg family has published this all on Geni.com already, I'm not revealing anything that's not already publicly available)

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 28.72
2 West_Med 18.73
3 West_Asian 11.91
4 Atlantic 11.54
5 Red_Sea 8.15
6 North_Sea 6.91
7 Eastern_Euro 5.41
8 Baltic 4.73
9 Northeast_African 1.43
10 Southeast_Asian 1.26
11 South_Asian 0.71
12 Sub-Saharan 0.51

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ashkenazi 5.3
2 East_Sicilian 5.42
3 South_Italian 6.45
4 Italian_Jewish 6.48
5 Central_Greek 6.59
6 Algerian_Jewish 7.1
7 Sephardic_Jewish 7.19
8 West_Sicilian 7.49
9 Italian_Abruzzo 8.8
10 Greek 10.28
11 Tunisian_Jewish 10.94
12 Greek_Thessaly 11.09
13 Libyan_Jewish 12.17
14 Tuscan 12.74
15 Cyprian 13.7
16 Lebanese_Muslim 17.33
17 Syrian 17.41
18 Bulgarian 17.92
19 North_Italian 18.89
20 Samaritan 19.36

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 60.1% Ashkenazi + 39.9% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.23
2 82.2% Algerian_Jewish + 17.8% Moldavian @ 3.65
3 63.5% Algerian_Jewish + 36.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.8
4 58.7% Ashkenazi + 41.3% Italian_Jewish @ 3.8
5 76.7% Algerian_Jewish + 23.3% Romanian @ 3.84
6 74.6% Algerian_Jewish + 25.4% Bulgarian @ 3.88
7 87.6% Algerian_Jewish + 12.4% Erzya @ 3.91
8 79.2% Algerian_Jewish + 20.8% Serbian @ 3.94
9 89.9% Ashkenazi + 10.1% Sardinian @ 3.95
10 89.1% Italian_Jewish + 10.9% Erzya @ 3.96
11 63% Ashkenazi + 37% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.97
12 83.7% Algerian_Jewish + 16.3% Croatian @ 4.01
13 61.8% Algerian_Jewish + 38.2% Greek @ 4.02
14 63.5% Sephardic_Jewish + 36.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.03
15 86.3% Algerian_Jewish + 13.7% Ukrainian @ 4.04
16 87.5% Algerian_Jewish + 12.5% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.04
17 86.9% Algerian_Jewish + 13.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.05
18 86.1% Algerian_Jewish + 13.9% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.07
19 65.2% Italian_Jewish + 34.8% Greek @ 4.08
20 62% East_Sicilian + 38% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.09

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Here is how I compare with Schoenberg's kid.
3/4 Ashkenazi and most of the rest is Scottish.
Something seems off about Schoenberg's results, the 7/8 Ashkenazi likely has something alien in it, pushing him south towards the Levant.
Either that or he is just on the low euro average for Ashkenazim...
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 26.12
2 North_Sea 16.89
3 West_Med 14.46
4 Atlantic 13
5 West_Asian 11.47
6 Red_Sea 6.34
7 Eastern_Euro 5.26
8 Baltic 4.47
9 Sub-Saharan 1.4
10 Amerindian 0.59

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Italian_Abruzzo 7.24
2 Ashkenazi 7.4
3 East_Sicilian 8.09
4 Central_Greek 8.2
5 Greek_Thessaly 8.54
6 West_Sicilian 8.64
7 Tuscan 9.96
8 South_Italian 10.22
9 Greek 11.02
10 Italian_Jewish 11.72
11 Sephardic_Jewish 13.27
12 Algerian_Jewish 13.83
13 Bulgarian 15.05
14 North_Italian 15.26
15 Romanian 15.79
16 Libyan_Jewish 16.7
17 Tunisian_Jewish 17.05
18 Serbian 17.64
19 Cyprian 19.77
20 Portuguese 21.1

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.4% Cyprian + 43.6% West_German @ 3.28
2 53% French + 47% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.37
3 64.4% Cyprian + 35.6% West_Norwegian @ 3.51
4 50.5% Samaritan + 49.5% West_German @ 3.67
5 63.5% Cyprian + 36.5% Norwegian @ 3.78
6 63.6% Cyprian + 36.4% Orcadian @ 3.85
7 50.8% West_German + 49.2% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.88
8 55.5% Samaritan + 44.5% Southwest_English @ 3.96
9 54.2% Lebanese_Christian + 45.8% Southwest_English @ 3.98
10 50.2% Lebanese_Christian + 49.8% South_Dutch @ 4.04
11 61.4% Cyprian + 38.6% Southwest_English @ 4.05
12 75.4% Italian_Jewish + 24.6% Norwegian @ 4.05
13 75.4% Italian_Jewish + 24.6% Swedish @ 4.05
14 76.2% Italian_Jewish + 23.8% West_Norwegian @ 4.06
15 53.3% French + 46.7% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.07
16 75.5% Italian_Jewish + 24.5% North_Swedish @ 4.08
17 51.7% French + 48.3% Samaritan @ 4.08
18 62.6% Cyprian + 37.4% North_Dutch @ 4.13
19 51.5% Samaritan + 48.5% South_Dutch @ 4.14
20 61.8% Cyprian + 38.2% Southeast_English @ 4.27

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Originally Posted by AK-47

Here is how I compare with Schoenberg's kid.
3/4 Ashkenazi and most of the rest is Scottish.

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Did you figure out the ethnicity of your grandpa's dad?

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Originally Posted by Leto

The Central European is barely detectable, he's a full Jew to me

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That's very surprising. I thought the Central European would show up. I wonder why it doesn't?

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Originally Posted by Leto

What does he look like?

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