Greek gedmatch result

A Gedmatch cousin of mine matches him, oddly enough.

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 16.72
2 North_Sea 15.01
3 Baltic 14.79
4 West_Asian 14.45
5 West_Med 12.76
6 Eastern_Euro 11.66
7 Atlantic 9.5
8 Red_Sea 3.78
9 Oceanian 0.38
10 Sub-Saharan 0.38
11 Siberian 0.32
12 Southeast_Asian 0.24

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 6.87
2 Romanian 6.93
3 Greek_Thessaly 9.4
4 Serbian 9.96
5 Greek 11.38
6 Moldavian 12.48
7 Ashkenazi 13.98
8 Central_Greek 14.67
9 Italian_Abruzzo 15.11
10 Croatian 15.7
11 East_Sicilian 15.84
12 Tuscan 16.08
13 Hungarian 16.19
14 Austrian 17.42
15 West_Sicilian 17.69
16 North_Italian 18.57
17 South_Italian 18.61
18 Ukrainian_Lviv 20.42
19 East_German 20.73
20 Ukrainian 21.48

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 69.2% Moldavian + 30.8% Cyprian @ 3.37
2 73.8% Moldavian + 26.2% Kurdish_Jewish @ 3.4
3 72.1% Moldavian + 27.9% Assyrian @ 3.43
4 70.3% Moldavian + 29.7% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.6
5 73.9% Moldavian + 26.1% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.63
6 72.4% Moldavian + 27.6% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.8
7 72.4% Moldavian + 27.6% Armenian @ 3.91
8 70.7% Moldavian + 29.3% Syrian @ 4.06
9 73.5% Moldavian + 26.5% Samaritan @ 4.1
10 73.7% Moldavian + 26.3% Iranian_Jewish @ 4.12
11 53.2% Moldavian + 46.8% Ashkenazi @ 4.44
12 74.5% Moldavian + 25.5% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.44
13 54.5% Moldavian + 45.5% Central_Greek @ 4.46
14 65.7% Central_Greek + 34.3% Erzya @ 4.62
15 76.6% Greek_Thessaly + 23.4% Erzya @ 4.7
16 67% Moldavian + 33% Turkish @ 4.74
17 57.4% Ukrainian_Lviv + 42.6% Cyprian @ 4.76
18 56.1% Ukrainian + 43.9% Cyprian @ 4.76
19 62.2% Central_Greek + 37.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.83
20 67.4% Croatian + 32.6% Assyrian @ 4.84

# Population Percent
1 NE_Europe 33.03
2 SW_Europe 32.09
3 West_Asia 19.15
4 SW_Asia 11.47
5 NE_Asia 1.44
6 Siberia 1.28
7 Oceania 0.86
8 West_Africa 0.68

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 4.63
2 Bulgarian 5.2
3 Montenegrin 5.55
4 Macedonian 5.55
5 Kosovar 7.73
6 Serbian 7.8
7 Albanian 8.25
8 Greek_Thessaly 8.82
9 Italian_Tuscan 10.16
10 Bosnian 10.57
11 Moldavian 12.08
12 Greek_Central 12.46
13 Croatian 12.88
14 Italian_Bergamo 13.18
15 Italian_Abruzzo 14.06
16 Hungarian 15.3
17 Slovene 15.57
18 French 15.91
19 German_South 16.77
20 Slovak 16.93

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 64.3% Ashkenazy_Jew + 35.7% Russian @ 1.81
2 62.5% Italian_Sicilian + 37.5% Russian @ 2.03
3 62.7% Ashkenazy_Jew + 37.3% Mordovian @ 2.31
4 71.6% Greek_Central + 28.4% Russian @ 2.33
5 77.7% Greek_Central + 22.3% Finnish @ 2.38
6 68.3% Ashkenazy_Jew + 31.7% Latvian @ 2.39
7 68% Ashkenazy_Jew + 32% Lithuanian @ 2.44
8 67.2% Ashkenazy_Jew + 32.8% Estonian @ 2.49
9 60.9% Italian_Sicilian + 39.1% Mordovian @ 2.52
10 64.8% Ashkenazy_Jew + 35.2% Polish @ 2.56
11 68% Slovene + 32% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.56
12 62.1% Utahn_European + 37.9% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.6
13 71.5% Croatian + 28.5% Syrian @ 2.61
14 61.4% Ashkenazy_Jew + 38.6% Belarusian @ 2.61
15 76.4% Bosnian + 23.6% Jordanian @ 2.61
16 66.7% Italian_Sicilian + 33.3% Latvian @ 2.61
17 61.1% German_North + 38.9% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.62
18 85.4% Serbian + 14.6% Yemeni @ 2.62
19 67.7% Hungarian + 32.3% Syrian @ 2.64
20 68.8% Hungarian + 31.2% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.65

You can model this guy as a mix of Northeast Balkanite and West Asian/MENA. I wonder if he's typical for Greeks.
He could be of recent Pontian or Ukrainian Greek ancestry.

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Originally Posted by Rato de Esgoto

You can model this guy as a mix of Northeast Balkanite and West Asian/MENA. I wonder if he's typical for Greeks.
He could be of recent Pontian or Ukrainian Greek ancestry.

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No no no. He is an extremely north-shifted Greek. Maybe Ukrainian-Greek.

Pontic Greeks have very high East Med %. This guy has one of the lowest East Meds I've seen. Are you sure he's Greek?

As reference, my family is from Samos and my East Med is 30+

Macedonian, Thracian or even Vlach. Not so surprised by his/her results, they look genuine for a Northern Greek
Also keep in mind that Eurogenes lack samples from many Balkan populations so you will get distorted results


My results in comparison.

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 22.61
2 West_Med 20.15
3 Baltic 19.4
4 North_Atlantic 18.66
5 West_Asian 13.55
6 Red_Sea 4.79
7 Sub-Saharan 0.68
8 Siberian 0.15

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 4.38
2 Bulgarian 6.58
3 Romanian 8.92
4 Central_Greek 10.2
5 Italian_Abruzzo 10.94
6 East_Sicilian 11.51
7 West_Sicilian 12.4
8 Tuscan 12.45
9 Serbian 13.14
10 Ashkenazi 14
11 South_Italian 14.69
12 North_Italian 15.52
13 Moldavian 18.35
14 Algerian_Jewish 20.19
15 Sephardic_Jewish 20.4
16 Italian_Jewish 20.56
17 Hungarian 21.45
18 Croatian 21.48
19 Portuguese 22.81
20 Spanish_Extremadura 23.19

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 73.5% Central_Greek + 26.5% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.14
2 64.6% Central_Greek + 35.4% Moldavian @ 2.17
3 77.3% Central_Greek + 22.7% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.22
4 74.5% Central_Greek + 25.5% Ukrainian @ 2.23
5 79.9% Central_Greek + 20.1% Lithuanian @ 2.25
6 77.6% Central_Greek + 22.4% Estonian_Polish @ 2.3
7 68.2% Central_Greek + 31.8% Croatian @ 2.31
8 76.4% Central_Greek + 23.6% Polish @ 2.33
9 76.3% Central_Greek + 23.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.43
10 76.2% Central_Greek + 23.8% Southwest_Russian @ 2.48
11 61.8% East_Sicilian + 38.2% Moldavian @ 2.52
12 78% Central_Greek + 22% Belorussian @ 2.54
13 64.9% Bulgarian + 35.1% East_Sicilian @ 2.55
14 62% Bulgarian + 38% Central_Greek @ 2.56
15 74.4% Central_Greek + 25.6% South_Polish @ 2.65
16 55.7% South_Italian + 44.3% Moldavian @ 2.73
17 68.8% South_Italian + 31.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.75
18 70.1% South_Italian + 29.9% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.77
19 65.7% South_Italian + 34.3% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.78
20 71.2% East_Sicilian + 28.8% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.78

I can take myself as an example of Thracian Bulgarians except for my EE admixture. When i compare myself with this guy i see he has more Baltic admixture than me. Med distribution is similar and in Bulgarian range. S/he has slightly more West Asian, probably more North Atlantic(still not as much as Northern Greeks, in Bulgarian range, if we look his/her Atlantic score. Northern Greeks score more than 13 in K15.) So yes evaluation goes like that but my conclusion is s/he is from Eastern Macedonia, specifically Drama or Serres. I need to see his/her K13 in order to make an ethnicity guess. I could say s/he is ethnic Bulgarian converted to Greek with these results but it wouldn't be much reliable. The main reason why i think like that although s/he is northern shifted, his/her admixture proportions not represent Northern Greeks but it is more like Slavic shift with this Baltic/Atlantic ratio.


Can you post Eurogenes K13, PuntDNAL K15, MDLP K23b, Eurogenes K36? Also, would you mind to give me the kit number? So i can check if i matched with him/her.


My K15 and K13 for comparison:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 20.45
2 North_Sea 14.77
3 West_Asian 13.38
4 Eastern_Euro 12.2
5 Baltic 10.08
6 West_Med 10.03
7 Siberian 6.85
8 Atlantic 5.56
9 Red_Sea 2.46
10 South_Asian 1.97
11 Southeast_Asian 1.03
12 Sub-Saharan 0.47
13 Amerindian 0.44
14 Oceanian 0.31



Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 21
2 Baltic 20.37
3 North_Atlantic 15.55
4 West_Asian 14.91
5 West_Med 12.29
6 Siberian 7.57
7 Red_Sea 3.25
8 South_Asian 2.06
9 East_Asian 1.16
10 Amerindian 0.7
11 Sub-Saharan 0.61
12 Oceanian 0.53