A Ukrainian who plot closest to Swedish average doesn't mean that person is ethnically Swedish. He or she is still ethnically Ukrainian.
In my opinion, people who took ethnicity DNA tests take those results too seriously. I have even seen people who changed their ethnic identification as they saw the results, which is really ridiculous.
I agree but its not completely worthless though i agree that you can estimate it
The genetic differences between Turks and the peoples of the Balkans, such as Greeks and Serbs, are quite clear. However, it is more difficult to identify these differences among closely related ethnic groups, such as Ukrainians and Swedes.
A wise man will put his faith into Millennial Kingdom (of Jesus Christ on the planet Earth, after Jesus Christ will defeat satan) and into a Kingdom of Heaven to pass the Day of Judgement by having a True Faith in God (the Father / Creator, Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit). I am not wise enough to repent fully yet, but I will recommend that for anyone, who know's maybe you will be quicker than me, it will only help you. Because living in a sin with recognition that it is a sin and that is bad and not accepting it as your path, while not being fully on the right path is still a suffering, once my mask of hypocrite is off in front of those who are fully repented and still didn't fall for a sin.
So for me this discussion doesn't make any sense, why to speak about something that is false and will be destroyed like it does matter? For sake of winning the argument that didn't even started, I would say that my interest in typologies might be still an escapism and it might be that I do justify it with God's (the Father / Creator, Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit) given purpose, that it can be as harmful as this types of topic that are leading to nothing in my opinion. Sure having a government is an instrument that can be more or less proper used (not like 100% utopia though, since it might devalue Millennial Kingdom and Kingdom of Heaven, which is how it is, since we have a free will and some people will abuse it and others will not) through Jesus Christ.
There are lots of Turkish people (at least 1/4 of Turkish population) plot in Balkans. Turkish averages on GEDmatch calculators clearly show there is a significant Balkan ancestry among Turks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dior Haines
Balkan people are one big turkish family some (greeks serbs etc) denie it but some love it and embrace their turkishness like bosniaksQuote:
Originally Posted by reboun
Ethnic Ukrainian with 4 Ukrainian grandparents will not plot near Swedish average.Quote:
Originally Posted by reboun
Autosomal genetics is sience and should take seriously.
These people are mostly Greeks and Balkan who have been assimilated. I, too, from the Caucasus.Quote:
Originally Posted by reboun
I never liked the full-on obsession with autosomal DNA and G25 on here - sure, it's interesting, but certainly NOT the only aspect to anthropology. Stuff like linguistics or cultural discussion gets dismissed here or even made fun of at times, despite it arguably being a bigger part of anthropology than figuring out which calculator can tell you how much DNA you share with a banana.
That being said you're right. All a DNA test can do is compare segments of your DNA to populations they have in a database labeled as various things. The metrics vary wildly between companies. It's cool to use those tools to figure out where a group came from, what their exact ancestry might be, etc. but it's not the be all end all of ethnic belonging. Was fascinating to know that Moravian Slovaks, myself included, cluster with West Ukrainians. At the end of the day? I'm still a Central/Eastern European mutt whose family lived for centuries in what I call the Danubian cultural zone. xD I do not have that much in common with the people I cluster with. So how relevant is it really? Does it really need to be the only aspect of anthropology that even gets entertained?
Since when do Swedes plot with Ukrainians. Maybe on a global PCA, but then most of Europe will be tightly clustered together.