What genetic distance is bigger? Average in every case.
1. Italian - Indian
2. Kenyan - African descend American
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What genetic distance is bigger? Average in every case.
1. Italian - Indian
2. Kenyan - African descend American
There are very distant ethnicities and groups in these countries, specially in India or Kenya, but here you have.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rumata
1.Italian-Indian
Code:Parsi_India,0.079245,0.066394,-0.091744,0.002462,-0.053357,0.014974,0.003622,-0.00027,-0.010903,-0.006868,-0.002497,-0.003468,0.005603,-0.001134,0.003206,0.009455,-0.004046,0.002486,0.003333,-0.008228,0.000723,-0.004191,-0.001683,-0.003258,0.002907
Punjabi_Christian_India,0.039269,-0.091905,-0.17423,0.122256,-0.070475,0.062611,-0.000235,0.009807,0.052767,0.033623,-0.005765,0.002473,0.001115,0.001101,-0.007668,-0.009281,-0.00352,-0.001457,-0.00088,-0.001313,0.006177,0.003091,0.002835,-0.002892,-0.004012
Punjabi_Hindu_India,0.07133,-0.011811,-0.111055,0.083753,-0.069426,0.04863,0.001549,0.005265,0.003363,-0.002801,-0.006544,0.000261,2.2e-05,-0.006835,0.007721,0.007494,-0.001318,-0.000127,-0.00054,-0.007286,-0.001752,-0.003206,0.003259,0.000594,-0.000594
Punjabi_Muslim_India,0.064879,-0.01371,-0.117662,0.069122,-0.06355,0.044901,-0.001763,0.004615,0.008488,0.010661,-0.006252,0.004571,-0.004014,-0.001996,0.004886,0.00537,0.003716,0.002977,0.001131,-0.003689,-0.000125,-0.004142,0.003882,-0.001265,-0.000239
Punjabi_Sikh_India,0.07275,0.000757,-0.10378,0.080723,-0.070121,0.047708,0.001635,0.004399,-0.000844,-0.005417,-0.005763,-0.000172,-0.000348,-0.00708,0.010373,0.008489,-0.003945,0.001084,0.000773,-0.010388,-0.002296,-0.00547,0.000857,-0.000718,0.000428
Bengali_India,0.043253,-0.119832,-0.161031,0.106268,-0.060319,0.064703,-0.00564,0.012692,0.043359,0.034625,-0.007632,0.005545,-0.004014,0.006606,-0.008415,-0.008486,-0.001173,0.000633,0.002263,0.004502,-0.000374,0.004451,-0.003697,0.009158,0.002155
Kashmiri_India_Muslim,0.07057,-0.008124,-0.110119,0.073644,-0.075399,0.048806,0.0047,0,0.006749,0.004191,-0.005521,-0.003297,0.001487,-0.012386,0.002986,0.018165,0.016037,-0.004307,0.00088,-0.004252,-0.000624,-0.017435,-0.000616,-0.003374,-0.000718
Parsi_India,0.079245,0.066394,-0.091744,0.002462,-0.053357,0.014974,0.003622,-0.00027,-0.010903,-0.006868,-0.002497,-0.003468,0.005603,-0.001134,0.003206,0.009455,-0.004046,0.002486,0.003333,-0.008228,0.000723,-0.004191,-0.001683,-0.003258,0.002907
Code:Italian_Abruzzo,0.112685,0.148801,-0.000675,-0.034765,0.016116,-0.01255,0.000779,-0.002283,0.003789,0.020813,0.000513,0.003668,-0.005633,-0.003904,-0.00615,-0.001466,0.00186,0.000267,0.003361,-0.003693,-0.003809,0.001334,0.000889,0.001706,-0.000964
Italian_Aosta_Valley,0.12697,0.146084,0.039258,0.004748,0.036976,-0.001548,0.002409,0.002804,0.010226,0.021959,-0.004766,0.004931,-0.014725,-0.010356,0.007499,0.006258,0.005189,-0.000285,0.003375,-0.000538,0.002926,0.001948,-0.000918,0.00814,-6e-05
Italian_Apulia,0.110712,0.148267,-0.003771,-0.040138,0.015839,-0.015116,-0.000956,-0.001615,0.002795,0.02069,-0.000227,0.003877,-0.006472,0.001193,-0.008107,-0.003898,0.001669,6e-04,0.002749,-0.005152,-0.00381,0.001962,0.001758,0.001438,-0.000567
Italian_Basilicata,0.10927,0.146687,-0.004986,-0.040519,0.013267,-0.015339,0.001044,-0.001667,0.00434,0.019236,0,0.003031,-0.007103,-0.00078,-0.009063,-0.001576,0.005882,-0.000324,0.003366,-0.005127,-0.001886,0.002239,0.002301,0.002691,0.000346
Italian_Bergamo,0.12384,0.150705,0.030698,-0.011757,0.036191,-0.002677,0.001081,0.001708,0.010758,0.027663,-0.001397,0.006804,-0.012844,-0.006276,-0.003474,-0.004163,-0.000365,0.000659,0.005154,-0.005553,-0.001048,-2.5e-05,-0.00419,0.003784,0.000958
Italian_Calabria,0.103437,0.14814,-0.010324,-0.046997,0.012618,-0.015025,-0.002438,-0.001586,0.004448,0.021231,0.002213,0.002997,-0.004887,-0.001737,-0.006549,-0.002784,0.005802,0.000728,0.002938,-0.005362,-0.002605,-0.000325,0.000339,1.5e-05,-0.002425
Italian_Campania,0.108263,0.148384,-0.008529,-0.043456,0.014038,-0.016154,-0.000777,-0.002201,0.004507,0.0221,0.000968,0.002265,-0.00498,-0.00144,-0.006259,-0.000806,0.002332,0,0.002814,-0.003728,-0.003964,0.001907,0.000256,0.002104,0.000189
Italian_Emilia,0.120164,0.14435,0.018856,-0.017904,0.028093,-0.004343,0.00047,0.000725,0.007275,0.023274,-0.000534,0.009891,-0.010279,-0.005407,-0.001667,-0.001477,0.000149,0.000543,0.00264,-0.004449,-0.000713,0.001413,0.00088,0.004166,-0.000958
Italian_Friuli_Venezia_Giulia_Sappada,0.126344,0.153345,0.034695,0.00969,0.025235,0.001394,0.006345,0,0.005318,0.020957,-0.00065,0.006294,-0.01888,-0.00289,-0.00475,-0.00305,0.002868,0,-0.002514,-0.003877,-0.006863,-0.008285,-0.000863,0.007471,0.002754
Italian_Jew,0.094928,0.145627,-0.018667,-0.056493,0.011294,-0.024542,-0.003995,-0.002792,0.012885,0.019135,0.004514,0.00021,0.002156,-0.002876,-0.00661,-0.001233,-0.0012,-0.001052,-0.001119,-0.003589,-0.003906,-0.001546,-0.000123,0.002362,0.002874
Italian_Lazio,0.11314,0.152736,0.006788,-0.034303,0.021173,-0.010933,0.003243,-0.000277,0.006422,0.024237,0.00052,0.002548,-0.009574,-0.00523,-0.006732,0.002943,0.001043,0.000456,0.00269,-0.004227,-0.001922,0.004229,0.000567,0.000723,-0.000575
Italian_Liguria,0.113823,0.146236,0.027153,-0.011951,0.029236,-0.002231,0.00235,0.001154,0.009613,0.025331,-0.009743,0.002847,-0.013082,0.001101,-0.001086,-0.012463,-0.00665,-0.00038,0.003771,0.00075,-0.00025,0.000989,0.003944,0.000723,0.000599
Italian_Lombardy,0.122929,0.147886,0.026728,-0.015746,0.033468,-0.00746,0.002144,0.002135,0.009408,0.030479,-0.002497,0.007493,-0.015498,-0.005453,-0.002155,-0.005386,-0.00414,0.00114,0.002891,-0.004174,-0.003603,0.00102,0.000246,0.002937,-0.001961
Italian_Marche,0.116043,0.148166,0.007957,-0.029425,0.02065,-0.010431,0.000376,-0.001892,0.00586,0.020155,-0.000114,0.003252,-0.007768,-0.002457,-0.004716,-0.002267,0.000456,0.000925,0.002671,-0.00307,-0.001117,0.002628,-0.000197,0.003567,-0.001688
Italian_Molise,0.112685,0.146744,0.00132,-0.033431,0.015541,-0.013247,0.004465,-0.003,0.00225,0.019408,0.003735,0.003372,-0.008102,-0.002684,-0.007125,-0.003116,0.005085,0.001837,0.002325,-0.008004,-0.001373,0.004513,-0.000801,0.003555,0.00012
Italian_Northeast,0.125612,0.143552,0.035611,0.00173,0.035435,0.002032,0.003173,0.002044,0.006881,0.015946,-0.002366,0.004774,-0.008389,-0.000374,-0.004576,0.00036,0.004023,0.000887,0.003834,-0.002599,-0.00353,0.000433,-0.001796,0.00457,0.000359
Italian_Piedmont,0.122848,0.147614,0.022493,-0.012505,0.029984,-0.0049,0.002333,-0.000478,0.008517,0.023209,-0.001253,0.005866,-0.011086,-0.004915,0.000543,-0.001979,0.000829,0.001927,0.002191,-0.003403,-0.001114,0.001095,-0.00184,0.004527,-0.001292
Italian_Trentino_Alto_Adige,0.125838,0.146124,0.034611,-0.003948,0.039187,-0.002913,0.003421,0.002051,0.011226,0.024116,-0.003518,0.005195,-0.013181,-0.004312,-0.001282,-0.001621,0.002245,0.001337,0.004637,-0.003085,-0.002537,0.003284,-0.002533,0.001339,-0.00306
Italian_Tuscany,0.11881,0.147784,0.013882,-0.021011,0.025294,-0.008938,-0.001063,-0.001626,0.005649,0.023239,-0.000309,0.006066,-0.011475,-0.003703,-0.002243,-0.000814,0.002154,0.00029,0.003334,-0.003829,-0.001967,0.001407,-0.000734,0.003196,-0.001226
Italian_Umbria,0.115937,0.148122,0.006815,-0.028447,0.020421,-0.009124,0,-0.000528,0.006063,0.025656,0.001415,0.00623,-0.009748,-0.004807,-0.003354,0.001544,0.004116,0.000588,0.002254,-0.003984,-0.002656,0.002155,-0.000308,0.002221,-0.000411
Italian_Veneto,0.126154,0.148267,0.030756,-0.00628,0.034485,-0.000821,0.002154,0.002051,0.010374,0.022901,-0.002337,0.005487,-0.011034,-0.004457,-0.002247,0.001878,0.004679,0.00183,0.002675,-0.003648,-0.000686,0.003284,-0.000219,0.001908,-0.002209
2.Kenya & USA Black Africans
We have some "ancients" from Kenya to use as reference, just some examples if you want to use them:Code:Somali_Kenya,-0.315859,0.092413,-0.026436,-0.068864,8e-04,-0.031877,-0.015863,0.004523,0.113061,-0.0792,-0.007405,-0.005635,0.002958,-0.000303,0.024783,-0.018178,0.016363,5.1e-05,0.011162,-0.002514,-2.5e-05,0.005911,-0.003796,-0.00147,0.000838
Bantu_Kenya,-0.600986,0.062455,0.014708,0.01179,0.002,0.00753,-0.012338,0.026537,0.002966,-0.02442,-0.002355,0.013338,-0.032036,0.003303,-0.035287,0.025921,-0.015255,-0.004371,-0.015272,0.006003,0.00287,-0.005132,-0.00302,0.000361,0.002215
Luhya_Kenya,-0.597897,0.063688,0.017186,0.007106,0,0.005857,-0.014503,0.018889,0.004529,-0.021582,-0.005057,0.015993,-0.032875,0.001199,-0.030401,0.026726,-0.01803,-0.002443,-0.009948,0.004717,0.001693,0.000194,0.003416,0.003976,0.000667
And USA black slaves:Code:Kenya_Kakapel_LIA.AG:KPL003__AD_1142__Cov_6.91%,-0.513342,0.05687,-0.010936,-0.00969,-0.007386,-0.013666,-0.00658,0.014769,0.075674,-0.113898,-0.032478,0.028924,-0.049207,-0.010046,0.015065,-0.020419,0.018645,-0.000507,0.022877,-0.027138,-0.002496,0.007172,-0.027238,-0.000241,0.004071
Kenya_EmurulaOlePolosCairns_Historic.AG:I12379.AG__AD_1682__Cov_79.29%,-0.421146,0.076165,-0.014331,-0.045866,0.003693,-0.0251,-0.002585,0.006231,0.108602,-0.085469,-0.015752,0.009292,-0.02111,-0.003303,0.017236,-0.023866,0.011735,0.002787,0.010936,-0.006128,0.001373,0.008656,-0.0053,0,-0.00491
Kenya_Makwasinyi.AG:I14781.AG__AD_1845__Cov_47.46%,-0.582774,0.064994,0.011314,0.001938,-0.000308,0.01255,-0.0094,0.025384,0,-0.014761,0.00406,-0.000749,-0.015609,0.007982,-0.018458,0.004773,0.002868,0.011655,-0.009679,-0.004377,-0.003119,-0.004575,0.001356,-0.00976,-0.007424
Code:USA_DE_Avery's_Rest_African:AR10__AD_1700__Cov_17.19%,-0.61123,0.069056,0.027153,0.012597,0.006155,0.01506,-0.022326,0.026307,-0.035792,0.035901,0.007957,-0.012589,0.011596,-0.006468,-0.00475,0.017104,0.018645,0.002027,0.000503,0.007879,-0.001123,0.002597,0.008504,-0.003976,-0.011137
USA_DE_Avery's_Rest_African:AR11__AD_1700__Cov_23.46%,-0.552042,0.022342,0.013953,0.015181,0.014156,0.014502,-0.027496,0.025614,-0.02577,0.025331,0.002761,0.006145,0.001487,0.007019,0.002579,-0.00411,0.000261,0.004941,-0.001383,0.004377,-0.010482,-0.005317,-0.007395,-0.011086,-0.007544
USA_MD_Catoctin_AfricanAmerican.AG:I15331.AG__AD_1812__Cov_66.86%,-0.525863,0.059916,0.030924,0.023579,-0.00277,0.00502,-0.020681,0.005538,-0.035178,0.026606,0.00747,0.003597,0.002825,-0.003165,0.006922,-0.003447,-0.006258,0.002407,0.000126,-0.0005,0.003494,-0.006925,0.001479,-0.004097,-0.005269
USA_MD_Catoctin_AfricanAmerican.AG:I15333.AG__AD_1812__Cov_52.73%,-0.63058,0.062963,0.028284,0.015827,0.001846,0.013945,-0.025381,0.029076,-0.033133,0.024602,0.001949,0.002098,0.011596,-0.003716,0.010043,-0.005171,0.00678,-0.001647,0.002765,-0.006878,-0.000624,0.004946,0.003574,-0.004217,-0.004191
USA_MD_Catoctin_AfricanAmerican.AG:I15334.AG__AD_1812__Cov_62.69%,-0.614645,0.059916,0.018856,0.008398,-0.005232,0.013945,-0.029846,0.034845,-0.043155,0.026971,0.013153,-0.004496,0.006095,0.000963,0.008143,-0.002784,-0.00013,-0.004814,-0.003897,0.005753,-0.003369,-0.001237,0.003574,-0.003976,0.00455
USA_MD_Catoctin_AfricanAmerican.AG:I15335.AG__AD_1812__Cov_36.56%,-0.618059,0.058901,0.018479,0.015504,-0.003385,0.0251,-0.030551,0.032999,-0.033951,0.022233,-0.001624,0.0003,-0.002379,-0.001239,0.0057,-0.005701,0.00691,0.007475,-0.005279,-0.000375,-0.004617,0.007666,0.001725,0.001325,-0.000599
USA_MD_Catoctin_AfricanAmerican.AG:I15340.AG__AD_1812__Cov_53.35%,-0.623751,0.062963,0.023004,0.011305,0.002154,0.013666,-0.016451,0.02123,-0.043768,0.01385,-0.007145,-0.003747,0.008622,-0.005092,0.00095,0.007425,0.00352,0.004561,-0.005279,-0.005753,-0.001373,-0.003957,0.002095,0.000723,0.001916
USA_MD_Catoctin_AfricanAmerican_1d.rel.I8092.1d.rel.I8093.AG:I15339.AG__AD_1812__Cov_7.91%,-0.557733,0.063978,0.018102,0.030362,-0.009232,0.003347,0.025381,-0.017307,-0.026997,0.020046,0.005359,-0.014237,-0.013677,0.000963,0.01045,0,0.02386,0.020904,0.011061,-0.009004,-0.002745,0.000618,-0.007641,-0.001687,0.004071
USA_MD_Catoctin_AfricanAmerican_brother.I15331.son.I15332.AG:I15330.AG__AD_1812__Cov_44.93%,-0.512204,0.057885,0.036204,0.020672,0.004616,0.00502,-0.020681,0.008307,-0.029042,0.024966,0.006983,-0.01079,0.011447,-0.008945,-0.001629,-0.000398,0.00013,0.00076,-0.004148,0.002376,-0.000499,-0.011871,0.007765,-0.006748,-0.010418
USA_MD_Catoctin_AfricanAmerican_mother.I15330.mother.I15331.AG:I15332.AG__AD_1812__Cov_34.45%,-0.522448,0.074134,0.035826,0.015827,0.007694,0.006693,-0.008225,0.017999,-0.030679,0.023326,0.008607,-0.002847,0.007136,-0.007156,-0.000814,0.003713,-0.00678,-0.004561,-0.00088,0.006503,0.006613,0.00272,-0.001972,-0.003735,0.002395
USA_MD_Catoctin_AfricanAmerican_sister.I15336.AG:I15337.AG__AD_1812__Cov_37.90%,-0.585051,0.064994,0.01961,0.019057,0,0.013945,-0.030551,0.025153,-0.037837,0.023873,0.006008,-0.004796,0.009068,-0.000688,0.009636,-0.018828,0.001434,0.001647,-0.000251,-0.003627,0.004991,0.006059,-0.000493,0.008314,-0.007903
USA_MD_Catoctin_Furnace_African:I8084__AD_1813__Cov_22.64%,-0.595295,0.058901,0.011314,0.016796,0.00954,0.014502,-0.00987,0.01523,-0.043973,0.015672,-0.000325,0.01094,-0.009514,0.00289,-0.006107,0.017502,0.004042,-0.004687,0.000754,0.000125,0.003119,-0.000866,0.010969,0.004097,-0.002994
USA_MD_Catoctin_AfricanAmerican.AG:I8085.AG__AD_1825__Cov_44.93%,-0.577083,0.069056,0.017348,0.005814,-0.00277,0.001673,-0.030786,0.030922,-0.01943,0.027518,0.00682,-0.007493,0.014866,0.000826,0.013979,-0.011005,0.00678,-0.00228,-0.007793,-0.004877,0.001248,-0.008532,-0.002465,-0.005181,-0.001557
USA_MD_Catoctin_AfricanAmerican.AG:I8086.AG__AD_1825__Cov_44.56%,-0.616921,0.061947,0.025267,0.017119,0.000615,0.010877,-0.019741,0.03023,-0.040087,0.030433,0.003085,-0.006294,0.013974,0.003716,0.00665,-0.012596,-0.000522,0.006208,0.008799,0.002126,0.00025,-0.001113,-0.002095,-0.004699,-0.001557
USA_MD_Catoctin_AfricanAmerican.AG:I8087.AG__AD_1825__Cov_49.41%,-0.624889,0.06804,0.024136,0.018088,-0.000923,0.011992,-0.027731,0.030922,-0.03845,0.024784,0.005521,-0.007943,0.010704,0.004679,0.010043,-0.009149,0.008605,0.008235,0.01257,0.001751,0.001622,0.005564,0.006532,0.005061,0.00012
USA_MD_Catoctin_AfricanAmerican.AG:I8089.AG__AD_1825__Cov_44.81%,-0.624889,0.060932,0.022627,0.025517,0.012002,0.018965,-0.028201,0.029999,-0.033746,0.019681,-0.001299,-0.003297,0.008622,-0.004129,0.001493,0.004906,0.005998,0.003547,0.006034,-0.005753,-0.00287,0.000618,0.003944,-0.007109,0.003233
USA_MD_Catoctin_AfricanAmerican.AG:I8090__AD_1825__Cov_32.54%,-0.585051,0.052808,0.024136,0.012274,0.004616,0.016176,-0.025616,0.044998,-0.043564,0.019499,-0.001461,-0.013188,0.006392,-0.00523,0.00475,-0.00358,0.002217,-0.003294,0.002388,-0.00025,0.010856,-0.007048,0.012448,-0.002289,0.001197
USA_MD_Catoctin_AfricanAmerican.AG:I8092.AG__AD_1825__Cov_55.48%,-0.531554,0.06804,0.024513,0.018734,-0.001231,0.005578,0.026791,-0.012461,-0.033542,0.024784,0.006008,-0.025477,-0.000595,0.004542,0.00285,0.006232,0.006389,-0.005574,0.002137,-0.000125,0.003993,0.002226,-0.006039,0.002169,0.008143
USA_MD_Catoctin_AfricanAmerican.AG:I8094.AG__AD_1825__Cov_60.28%,-0.54066,0.071087,0.018479,0.020995,0.004308,0.008088,-0.024676,0.02746,-0.041109,0.019499,0.000487,0.003597,0.00773,-0.002064,0.010043,0.001989,0.009388,-0.003547,-0.003897,-0.003752,-0.005366,-0.004081,0.002465,-0.000723,-0.002395
USA_MD_Catoctin_AfricanAmerican.AG:I8095.AG__AD_1825__Cov_66.94%,-0.603262,0.063978,0.02225,0.010336,0.002462,0.003347,-0.043007,0.040614,-0.028429,0.023873,-0.000974,-0.000899,0.015461,-0.001927,0.011129,-0.009812,0.009388,0.002914,-0.005782,-0.002251,-0.000499,-0.002844,-0.005916,-0.005422,0.000838
USA_MD_Catoctin_AfricanAmerican.AG:I8096.AG__AD_1825__Cov_64.19%,-0.532692,0.067025,0.019987,0.000646,0.010771,0.009482,-0.036427,0.039229,-0.029656,0.020775,-0.000325,-0.004646,0.013528,0.003028,0.009365,-0.010209,0.000782,-0.001774,-0.004148,-0.004377,0.003993,-0.00915,-0.005546,-0.010122,0.007185
USA_MD_Catoctin_AfricanAmerican_mother.I8096.sister.I8085.AG:I8097.AG__AD_1825__Cov_69.34%,-0.583913,0.066009,0.018102,0.00969,0.006155,0.007251,-0.029846,0.027922,-0.028429,0.026424,0.003085,0.002098,0.015015,0.004817,0.007872,-0.00769,0.003781,-0.009755,-0.005782,-0.007629,-0.00025,-0.0115,0.001479,-0.006748,-0.001557
USA_MD_Catoctin_AfricanAmerican_sibling.I8092.AG:I8093.AG__AD_1825__Cov_45.13%,-0.55318,0.066009,0.020365,0.021318,0.00277,0.01506,0.037837,-0.022614,-0.034769,0.032802,0.001624,-0.030873,-0.008028,0.000826,0.009229,-0.001061,-0.003651,0.008361,0.000754,-0.002376,-0.005366,-0.003215,0.001356,0.001446,-0.006586
And here usual vahaduo for you to compare them by yourself.
Excuse me, I'm not into genetics. Which numbers should I consider to find the distance between each of these two pairs? If it's easier for you to do a rough summary than to explain it to me, it would be enough too.Quote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
Ok, donīt worry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rumata
I will take the 3 main Italian differenciated groups , Center(usually use as Italian reference) NE and South to make it simplier.
Better 4 Italian references.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rumata
https://i.imgur.com/txQZKo5.png
Not specially close, but take into consideration that Kenya is in the opposite coast of Africa, and most slaves in America would be from Western Africa.
https://i.imgur.com/nBcnvg7.png
https://i.imgur.com/TTKnFXA.png
https://i.imgur.com/Q2zxT5g.png
https://i.imgur.com/LHcrj1r.png
https://i.imgur.com/UV8K2O5.png
https://i.imgur.com/ZlL0Iwj.png
USA slaves are close to different Western African ethnicities and modern countries, that is where they usually came from.
Sierra Leone, Cameroon, Senegal, Gambia and about ethnicities, Igbos, Fulanis, Mandenkas...
Thanks. I wanted to know what is the genetic base of Aura's Pan-Blackism. It looks that the distance between Kenyans and AfrAms isn't much lesser than that between Italians and Indians. And I don't know what was the non-African admixture in those AfrAms tested.
It seems inside Kenya distances are bigger than inside Hindustan.
G25 really isnt the best way to answer this question because its not objective. You should use Fst or F2 instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by gixajo