Eurogenes K15 PCA

I've made PCA of Europeans with plenty of new added samples, so if you want to know where you land tell me :

https://image.ibb.co/eFQ4aQ/mysterious.png

Can you add me please?
Population
North_Sea 11.96
Atlantic 14.31
Baltic 13.63
Eastern_Euro 6.44
West_Med 20.21
West_Asian 9.17
East_Med 20.48
Red_Sea 3.81
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan

Do you have the actual average numbers for the new populations added? Would be appreciated.

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Originally Posted by Kelmendasi

Can you add me please?
Population
North_Sea 11.96
Atlantic 14.31
Baltic 13.63
Eastern_Euro 6.44
West_Med 20.21
West_Asian 9.17
East_Med 20.48
Red_Sea 3.81
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan

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There you go :

https://image.ibb.co/i6HkSv/kelmendasi.jpg

North_Sea 19.84
Atlantic 26.02
Baltic 5.14
Eastern_Euro 5.50
West_Med 22.23
West_Asian 2.99
East_Med 11.77
Red_Sea 2.29
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 0.50
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.52
Northeast_African 3.19
Sub-Saharan -

Muchas gracias.

lol, funny how Moldovans and Croats are so close and Moldovans are closer to central Euros than eastern Euros.

Sarmatian_IA:

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 25.3
2 Eastern_Euro 19.69
3 West_Asian 17.75
4 Baltic 13.39
5 South_Asian 9.22
6 Atlantic 6.19
7 Siberian 5.92
8 Amerindian 2.55

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Originally Posted by Ibericus

I've made PCA of Europeans with plenty of new added samples, so if you want to know where you land tell me :

https://image.ibb.co/egLTfF/eurogenesk15_euro.jpg

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Please, share the spreadsheet on which this PCA is based.

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Originally Posted by RN97

lol, funny how Moldovans and Croats are so close and Moldovans are closer to central Euros than eastern Euros.

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Eurogenes used to have problems with Moldavian sample as it included East-Slavs from Moldova, not shure if it's still so, but it used to be the case couple years ago.

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Originally Posted by Ibericus

There you go :

[MG]https://image.ibb.co/i6HkSv/kelmendasi.jpg[/IMG]

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Thanks. The other K15 PCA gave me a different plot, it plotted me more western and more northern than on this one

Pahli :

https://image.ibb.co/f6zh7v/Pahli.png

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Originally Posted by Ibericus

Pahli :

[MG]https://image.ibb.co/f6zh7v/Pahli.png[/IMG]

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The result Pahli posted was that of a Sarmatian

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Originally Posted by RN97

lol, funny how Moldovans and Croats are so close and Moldovans are closer to central Euros than eastern Euros.

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That not a problem of PCA, it's the Moldavian sample for some strange reason they are very similar to Croats.

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Originally Posted by Kelmendasi

The result Pahli posted was that of a Sarmatian

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I even wrote Sarmatian_IA :laugh:

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Originally Posted by Ibericus

That not a problem of PCA, it's the Moldavian sample for some strange reason they are very similar to Croats.

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It probably isn't, but it's just something you wouldn't expect. I'd think they'd be more eastern somehow.

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Originally Posted by Viriato

North_Sea 19.84
Atlantic 26.02
Baltic 5.14
Eastern_Euro 5.50
West_Med 22.23
West_Asian 2.99
East_Med 11.77
Red_Sea 2.29
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 0.50
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.52
Northeast_African 3.19
Sub-Saharan -

Muchas gracias.

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https://image.ibb.co/hYWWZa/Viriato.png

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Originally Posted by Not a Cop

Eurogenes used to have problems with Moldavian sample as it included East-Slavs from Moldova, not shure if it's still so, but it used to be the case couple years ago.

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Eurogenes uses the available samples from academic papers. Not always are the most accurate sample. The PCA made by Ibericus seems to mix samples/averages used/made by Eurogenes with his own samples/averages.

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Originally Posted by Ibericus

https://image.ibb.co/hYWWZa/Viriato.png

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Seems accurate with the one done by mlukas with K13. Thanks.

https://s22.postimg.org/8wi19dthb/k13-pca.png

This is where I(contains other Albos too) plot on the original pca just for comparison:
https://s13.postimg.org/3m5oknwo7/IMG_0593.png

Show us where you place as well on the autosomal map please, I am curious.

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Originally Posted by Viriato

Show us where you place as well on the autosomal map please, I am curious.

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I plot in the middle of the spanish cluster.

Can you add me and my grandpa please? :cool:

Me:

North_Sea 34.14
Atlantic 20.87
Baltic 16.03
Eastern_Euro 15.95
West_Med 5.95
West_Asian 1.16
East_Med -
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 1.65
Southeast_Asian 1.12
Siberian 2.54
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.61
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

My grandpa:

North_Sea 27.74
Atlantic 21.21
Baltic 19.48
Eastern_Euro 16.57
West_Med 5.51
West_Asian -
East_Med -
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 0.27
Southeast_Asian 0.21
Siberian 5.84
Amerindian 1.61
Oceanian 0.50
Northeast_African 0.53
Sub-Saharan 0.53

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Originally Posted by Mazik

Can you add me and my grandpa please? :cool:

Me:

North_Sea 34.14
Atlantic 20.87
Baltic 16.03
Eastern_Euro 15.95
West_Med 5.95
West_Asian 1.16
East_Med -
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 1.65
Southeast_Asian 1.12
Siberian 2.54
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.61
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

My grandpa:

North_Sea 27.74
Atlantic 21.21
Baltic 19.48
Eastern_Euro 16.57
West_Med 5.51
West_Asian -
East_Med -
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 0.27
Southeast_Asian 0.21
Siberian 5.84
Amerindian 1.61
Oceanian 0.50
Northeast_African 0.53
Sub-Saharan 0.53

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https://image.ibb.co/buaLcv/maizk.png

Do my grandads please:
North_Sea 28.89
Atlantic 20.99
Baltic 21.27
Eastern_Euro 14.03
West_Med 5.77
West_Asian 6.29
East_Med 0.31
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 1.85
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 0.27
Amerindian 0.33
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

North_Sea 28.89
Atlantic 20.99
Baltic 21.27
Eastern_Euro 14.03
West_Med 5.77
West_Asian 6.29
East_Med 0.31
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 1.85
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 0.27
Amerindian 0.33
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

My Eurogenes EU V K15

North_Sea 16.38
Atlantic 32.39
Baltic 3.75
Eastern_Euro 2.36
West_Med 20.84
West_Asian 3.99
East_Med 12.23
Red_Sea 3.37
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.54
Oceanian 0.27
Northeast_African 2.03
Sub-Saharan

North_Sea 25.99
Atlantic 18.06
Baltic 9.48
Eastern_Euro 9.61
West_Med 13.91
West_Asian 6.67
East_Med 12.73
Red_Sea 2.80
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.38
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.35
Sub-Saharan -

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Originally Posted by Not a Cop

Do my grandads please:
North_Sea 28.89
Atlantic 20.99
Baltic 21.27
Eastern_Euro 14.03
West_Med 5.77
West_Asian 6.29
East_Med 0.31
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 1.85
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 0.27
Amerindian 0.33
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

North_Sea 28.89
Atlantic 20.99
Baltic 21.27
Eastern_Euro 14.03
West_Med 5.77
West_Asian 6.29
East_Med 0.31
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 1.85
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 0.27
Amerindian 0.33
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

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You gave me two same results :

https://image.ibb.co/c9ge4a/not_a_cop.png

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Originally Posted by XenophobicPrussian

Do you have the actual average numbers for the new populations added? Would be appreciated.

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ok you asked me on German South :

North_Sea 30.74
Atlantic 24.23
Baltic 13.8
Eastern_Euro 8.74
West_Med 10.55
West_Asian 5.21
East_Med 3.49
Red_Sea 1.72
South_Asian 0.27
Southeast_Asian 0.10
Siberian 0.02
Amerindian 0.13
Oceanian 0.61
Northeast_African 0.40
Sub-Saharan 0

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Originally Posted by FilhoV

My Eurogenes EU V K15

North_Sea 16.38
Atlantic 32.39
Baltic 3.75
Eastern_Euro 2.36
West_Med 20.84
West_Asian 3.99
East_Med 12.23
Red_Sea 3.37
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.54
Oceanian 0.27
Northeast_African 2.03
Sub-Saharan

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https://image.ibb.co/epv0AF/FilhoV.png

Heres mine:

North_Sea 36.31
Atlantic 27.22
Baltic 10.01
Eastern_Euro 10.61
West_Med 7.25
West_Asian 6.48
East_Med -
Red_Sea 0.11
South_Asian 0.06
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 0.31
Amerindian 0.81
Oceanian 0.08
Northeast_African 0.76
Sub-Saharan -

Here's another when you have time.

Population
North_Sea 35.82
Atlantic 23.90
Baltic 11.23
Eastern_Euro 10.23
West_Med 12.01
West_Asian 2.40
East_Med 1.58
Red_Sea 1.59
South_Asian 1.18
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.05
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

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Originally Posted by RN97

lol, funny how Moldovans and Croats are so close and Moldovans are closer to central Euros than eastern Euros.

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The Serbian sample used in Eurogenes is awful(maybe on purpose) Probably mixed with Montenegrin ancestry or who knows what. I've seen Serbs plot with Croats and Moldovans on the old pca map.

Please add this as "white argentine". Its an average of 73 Argentines scoring over 90% caucasian in Gedmatch


North Sea 17,83
Atlantic 23,44
Baltic 7
Eastern Euro 3,81
West Med 18,18
West Asian 6,26
East Med 15
Red Sea 3,36
South Asia 0,19
South East Asia 0,28
Siberian 0,22
Amerindian 2,93
Oceanian 0,23
Northeast Africa 0,81
Sub Saharan African 0,40

THANKS

Gedmatch white Brazilian Average

20,57
24,76
7,23
4,56
18,42
4,15
11,18
3,40
0,23
0,23
0,18
2,05
0,27
1,38
1,58


Gedmatch White Puerto Rican Average

16,82
26,11
6,98
2,01
19,36
4,13
12,37
3,54
0,51
0,42
0,11
3,84
0,38
0,88
2,53


Gedmatch White Cuban Average

19,29
28,30
5,01
3,29
21,14
1,42
11,15
3,67
0,17
0,32
0,20
1,83
0,34
1,83
2,06


White Uruguayan Average

19,17
24,05
4,95
3,79
20,63
4,55
13,31
3,48
0,07
0,55
-
2,27
0,23
1,05
1,90

Did you see mine? North_Sea 25.99
Atlantic 18.06
Baltic 9.48
Eastern_Euro 9.61
West_Med 13.91
West_Asian 6.67
East_Med 12.73
Red_Sea 2.80
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.38
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.35
Sub-Saharan -

Me Too Please

Population
North_Sea 24.02
Atlantic 27.00
Baltic 16.81
Eastern_Euro 13.33
West_Med 7.60
West_Asian 4.77
East_Med 3.56
Red_Sea 1.88
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 1.03
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -


Thanks
Oszkar

Can you please do mine? :cool:;)




North_Sea 8.41
Atlantic 15.18
Baltic 13.38
Eastern_Euro 8.30
West_Med 16.25
West_Asian 14.05
East_Med 18.64
Red_Sea 5.42
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.16
Sub-Saharan 0.20

Ah, sweet. Let me convert my K15 to be full Euro.

North_Sea 23.74
Atlantic 27.99
Baltic 6.39
Eastern_Euro 8.85
West_Med 19.69
West_Asian 2.68
East_Med 7.23
Red_Sea 3.42
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African
Sub-Saharan

Could you add me too, please?:

My 23Andme format kit:

North_Sea 14.42
Atlantic 26.47
Baltic 4.32
Eastern_Euro 4.28
West_Med 16.24
West_Asian 4.26
East_Med 13.39
Red_Sea 3.12
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 0.41
Amerindian 6.25
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 1.45
Sub-Saharan 5.39

My Ancestry DNA format kit:

North_Sea 14.83
Atlantic 25.77
Baltic 4.58
Eastern_Euro 3.44
West_Med 16.78
West_Asian 4.21
East_Med 13.78
Red_Sea 3.09
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 0.41
Amerindian 6.40
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 1.61
Sub-Saharan 5.09

Thanks in advance!

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Originally Posted by Ibericus

ok you asked me on German South :

North_Sea 30.74
Atlantic 24.23
Baltic 13.8
Eastern_Euro 8.74
West_Med 10.55
West_Asian 5.21
East_Med 3.49
Red_Sea 1.72
South_Asian 0.27
Southeast_Asian 0.10
Siberian 0.02
Amerindian 0.13
Oceanian 0.61
Northeast_African 0.40
Sub-Saharan 0

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Thanks. Can you also put the numbers for Italian Veneto, French South, Belgium, French Bretagne, French Normandy, Austria Tyrol, Swiss German, Czech, Slovenian, Latvian? Again, would be really appreciated.