kessaras's MyOrigins Results.

1/2 Turkish
1/2 Karachay

Any suggestion for how I can use my raw data is appreciated.

my results:

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What surprised me most: %0 Greece and Balkans, %5 Sephardic Jewish, %2 Myanmar and %0 North Caucasus.

Congrats you finally got 'em :)

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Originally Posted by Beowulf

Congrats you finally got 'em :)

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Thanks. How I got %2 Myanmar I really don't know.

You can upload your raw data to Gedmatch and share some calc results

https://www.gedmatch.com/

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Originally Posted by kessaras

Thanks. How I got %2 Myanmar I really don't know.

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Probably East Asian noise? I'm not sure

Anyways you asked were would we reccomend where you can use your raw data, perdonally i'd reccomend you to put It in Gedmatch and illustrative DNA (that's where you get the real G25 coords)

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Originally Posted by Beowulf

Probably East Asian noise? I'm not sure

Anyways you asked were would we reccomend where you can use your raw data, perdonally i'd reccomend you to put It in Gedmatch and illustrative DNA (that's were you get the real G25 coords)

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Thanks.

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Originally Posted by majevica

You can upload your raw data to Gedmatch and share some calc results

https://www.gedmatch.com/

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WARNING
Chromosome number out of range: 0
File does not contain any X-DNA data


Should I ignore these warnings?

Definitely use GEDMatch.com, ignore the warnings. Note that different calculators give different results as they are interpreted differently. There are a lot of GEDMatch tutorials on youtube in case you find it confusing to navigate through.

What is karachay? Congrats on your results

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Originally Posted by eastern

Definitely use GEDMatch.com, ignore the warnings. Note that different calculators give different results as they are interpreted differently. There are a lot of GEDMatch tutorials on youtube in case you find it confusing to navigate through.

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Thanks I am going to ignore it and upload it.

Most important question: What is your haplogroup?

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Originally Posted by Mortimer

What is karachay? Congrats on your results

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karachays

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Originally Posted by Katarzyna

Most important question: What is your haplogroup?

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I still don’t know. I haven’t received it yet along with my ancient origins.

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Originally Posted by kessaras

I still don’t know. I haven’t received it yet along with my ancient origins.

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Then upload your raw data into this haplogroup predictor:

https://ytree.morleydna.com/extractFromAutosomal

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Originally Posted by Katarzyna

Then upload your raw data into this haplogroup predictor:

https://ytree.morleydna.com/extractFromAutosomal

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Couldn't determine the format of your data. Could you please answer these questions?

How are no-calls represented in your data?
0 (AncestryDNA uses this)
-- (23andMe and MyHeritage use this)
Other (please specify)

How is the Y chromosome represented in your data?
Chromosome 24 (AncestryDNA uses this)
Y (23andMe and MyHeritage use this)
chrY
Other (please specify)

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Originally Posted by kessaras

I still don’t know. I haven’t received it yet along with my ancient origins.

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Try Cladefinder.com it's more updated than MorleyDNA

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Originally Posted by Beowulf

Try Cladefinder.com it's more updated than MorleyDNA

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unable to determine clade due to no positive SNPs.

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Originally Posted by kessaras

unable to determine clade due to no positive SNPs.

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Which dna Test Company did you use for your raw data?

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Originally Posted by Katarzyna

Which dna Test Company did you use for your raw data?

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FTDNA.

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Originally Posted by kessaras

FTDNA.

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Then you have enough snps for Y dna. But in order to use clade finder you need to first transform your raw data into 23and me format.
I can help you with conversion if you want to.

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Originally Posted by Katarzyna

I can help you with conversion if you want to.

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Yes, I need help.

Are you actually half Karachay-Balkar from the North Caucasus? Karachay and Balkar are the same thing. And they have a relatively high frequency of R1a (about 25%).

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Originally Posted by Katarzyna

Then you have enough snps for Y dna. But in order to use clade finder you need to first transform your raw data into 23and me format.
I can help you with conversion if you want to.

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My raw data is from FTDNA and i didn't needed to convert It, so strange.

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Originally Posted by Katarzyna

Then you have enough snps for Y dna. But in order to use clade finder you need to first transform your raw data into 23and me format.
I can help you with conversion if you want to.

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Maybe not. The state before this new thing telling the YDNA was that FTDNA removed (sic! (= sick!)) all YDNA SNPs from the data. I don't know the current state of the raw data, do you?

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Originally Posted by Leto

Are you actually half Karachay-Balkar from the North Caucasus?

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Yes, my mother's native tongue is Karachay-Balkar, and they always call themselves "Karachayli." I actually don't know if there is a difference between Karachay and Balkar. She learned Turkish at school. My father's side is not Karachay-Balkar; it's Turkish, though.

Is DNA testing popular in Russia? My match list is full of people with Russianized names, such as Khusainov. My matches seem full of Karachay-Balkar people. Turkish is very few compared to them.

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Originally Posted by kessaras

Yes, my mother's native tongue is Karachay-Balkar, and they always call themselves "Karachayli." I actually don't know if there is a difference between Karachay and Balkar. She learned Turkish at school. My father's side is not Karachay-Balkar; it's Turkish, though.

Is DNA testing popular in Russia? My match list is full of people with Russianized names, such as Khusainov. My matches seem full of Karachay-Balkar people. Turkish is very few compared to them.

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Well, Karachay-Balkar is a Turkic language, so assimilation in Turkey would not be difficult at all.
Yes, DNA in Russia is not rare, there's even a Russian DNA testing company called Genotek. There are quite a few Northwestern Caucasians on GEDmatch, I've seen dozens of them.

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Originally Posted by Beowulf

My raw data is from FTDNA and i didn't needed to convert It, so strange.

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Beowulf mate by the way, Did you score Sephardic Jew on FTDNA? I'm asking because you are a Spaniard.

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Originally Posted by kessaras

Beowulf mate by the way, Did you score Sephardic Jew on FTDNA? I'm asking because you are a Spaniard.

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Not me but my mom did, she scores >1%

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Originally Posted by Leto

Well, Karachay-Balkar is a Turkic language, so assimilation in Turkey would not be difficult at all.

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Yes, Even though it's more similar to Crimean Tatar, it's still very similar to Turkish.

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Originally Posted by Leto

Yes, DNA in Russia is not rare, there's even a Russian DNA testing company called Genotek. There are quite a few Northwestern Caucasians on GEDmatch, I've seen dozens of them.

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My closest relative on FTDNA is a Karachay American living in New Jersey. When I told her about him, she said that he's my mom's relative, both from her maternal and paternal sides. My biggest surprise is that he didn't score any North Caucasus.

His score:

Anatolia %2
Southern Levant %3
Southern Caucasus %79
East Slavic %5
Myanmar %1
Mongolia %6
Japan %1
Northern India %1

His Y-DNA: G-FT286824
His mtDNA: U1b2

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Originally Posted by Beowulf

Not me but my mom did, she scores >1%

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Did you see any Turkish results with Sephardic Jew results like mine? It's very interesting because a large number of Sephardic Jews emigrated to the Ottoman Empire in the past. Because of that, it really made me wonder: do I really have a Sephardic Jew ancestor, or is it a somewhat off interpretation?

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Originally Posted by kessaras

Did you see any Turkish results with Sephardic Jew results like mine? It's very interesting because a large number of Sephardic Jews emigrated to the Ottoman Empire in the past. Because of that, it really made me wonder: do I really have a Sephardic Jew ancestor, or is it a somewhat off interpretation?

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I Saw some getting sephardic jewish from Turkey, you might have some jewish ancestry, but what about your DNA matches? Do you jewish DNA coincidences there?

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Originally Posted by Beowulf

I Saw some getting sephardic jewish from Turkey, you might have some jewish ancestry, but what about your DNA matches? Do you jewish DNA coincidences there?

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My matches are predominantly people from the Caucasus, but there are some European matches too. I really have a small number of Turkish matches, which is interesting. I don't know if those European matches are Jewish. On my match list, there is a woman who carries the same surname as my aunt's husband. I am going to contact them. My aunt's husband is also a distant relative of our family.

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Originally Posted by kessaras

My matches are predominantly people from the Caucasus, but there are some European matches too. I really have a small number of Turkish matches, which is interesting. I don't know if those European matches are Jewish. On my match list, there is a woman who carries the same surname as my aunt's husband. I am going to contact them. My aunt's husband is also a distant relative of our family.

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You can upload your raw data to MH not for their results but you can get free acces to the DNA matches their database is bigger and It was very helpful with my own family tree my problem with FTDNA is that the closest DNA matches are already quite distant with some few exceptions.

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Originally Posted by kessaras

Yes, Even though it's more similar to Crimean Tatar, it's still very similar to Turkish.



My closest relative on FTDNA is a Karachay American living in New Jersey. When I told her about him, she said that he's my mom's relative, both from her maternal and paternal sides. My biggest surprise is that he didn't score any North Caucasus.

His score:

Anatolia %2
Southern Levant %3
Southern Caucasus %79
East Slavic %5
Myanmar %1
Mongolia %6
Japan %1
Northern India %1

His Y-DNA: G-FT286824
His mtDNA: U1b2

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He probably still is North Caucasus, its just that the calculator interpreted his DNA slightly different than yours, hence why he got classified as south caucasus.

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Originally Posted by eastern

He probably still is North Caucasus, its just that the calculator interpreted his DNA slightly different than yours, hence why he got classified as south caucasus.

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I didn't get North Caucasus same as him. Nevertheless, most Karachay matches on my list have more North Caucasus than South.

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Originally Posted by kessaras

Did you see any Turkish results with Sephardic Jew results like mine? It's very interesting because a large number of Sephardic Jews emigrated to the Ottoman Empire in the past. Because of that, it really made me wonder: do I really have a Sephardic Jew ancestor, or is it a somewhat off interpretation?

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MyOrigins is really bad, just ignore it.

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Originally Posted by Annihilus

MyOrigins is really bad, just ignore it.

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You are right. My Dodecad K12b results highly correlate with my background.

Attachment 126152

Two-way:

1. 30% Lipka_Tatar + 70% Turk_Southwestern_Caucasus @ 1.30815328
2. 53% Balkar + 47% Turk_Western_Central_Anatolia @ 1.37542325
3. 43% Nogai_ShomishlyAs_1_Beshtau + 56% Turk_Southwestern_Caucasus @ 1.47769042
4. 54% Adygei + 46% Turk_Southwestern_Anatolia @ 1.49509688
5. 56% Kabardin + 43% Turk_Southern_Central_Anatolia @ 1.50878013
6. 49% Adygei + 51% Turk_Western_Black_Sea_&_Northwestern_Central_Anat olia @ 1.51994897
7. 49% Balkar + 51% Turk_Southern_Central_Anatolia @ 1.56000464
8. 56% Kabardin + 44% Turk_Eastern_Central_Anatolia @ 1.58800872
9. 64% Karachay + 36% Turk_Dodecanese @ 1.60934044
10. 67% Circassian + 33% Turk_Dodecanese @ 1.66190553
11. 56% Circassian + 43% Turk_Western_Central_Anatolia @ 1.66763052
12. 54% Karachay + 46% Turk_Western_Central_Anatolia @ 1.70211766
13. 56% Adygei + 43% Turk_Northwestern_Anatolia @ 1.70942852
14. 32% Nogai_Ming_1_Dagestan + 68% Turk_Southwestern_Caucasus @ 1.77719482
15. 45% Ossetian_South + 55% Turk_Northwestern_Anatolia @ 1.88696535
16. 46% Ossetian + 54% Turk_Western_Black_Sea_&_Northwestern_Central_Anat olia @ 1.90414278
17. 53% Circassian + 47% Turk_Southern_Central_Anatolia @ 1.92855534
18. 48% Balkar + 52% Turk_Eastern_Central_Anatolia @ 2.0142245
19. 59% Ossetian + 41% Turk_Dodecanese @ 2.01673295
20. 51% Kumyk + 49% Turk_Southern_Central_Anatolia @ 2.02438815

2. sonuç için tam bilmiş dedi mod.

Modern Populations:

1. Kabardin @ 6.05882
2. Circassian @ 7.128534
3. Turk_Central_Black_Sea_(Giresun_North_&_Ordu) @ 7.656292
4. Turk_Eastern_Central_Anatolia @ 7.72371
5. Kumyk @ 7.768591
6. Karachay @ 7.975444
7. Turk_Southern_Central_Anatolia @ 8.006298
8. Turk_Western_Black_Sea_(Kastamonu_&_Sinop) @ 8.142014
9. Balkar @ 8.268198
10. Turk_Western_Black_Sea_&_Northwestern_Central_Anat olia @ 8.382732
11. Adygei @ 8.553175
12. Azerbaijani_Qakh-Zaqatala @ 8.58869
13. Turk_Central_Black_Sea_(Giresun_South) @ 8.672191
14. DA162_Alan @ 9.22566
15. Turk_Western_Central_Anatolia @ 9.34486
16. Azerbaijani_Shaki @ 9.367732
17. Ingush @ 9.458478
18. Turk_Southern_Anatolia_(Mersin_&_Adana) @ 9.634283
19. Azerbaijani_Kur-Aras @ 9.673567
20. Azerbaijani_Absheron @ 9.697938

Congrats on your results. Sephardic Jewish can represent your native Anatolian/West Asian ancestry, it's not necessarily real (although it could be). FTDNA is notorious for having their algorithm functioning like a gedmatch calculator.

Surprised you didn't get Y-DNA assigned yet, but you will, probaby very soon.

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You are right. My Dodecad K12b results highly correlate with my background.

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Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 35.86
2 East_Med 21.73
3 North_Atlantic 9.85
4 Baltic 9.33
5 West_Med 9.09
6 Siberian 4.46
7 Red_Sea 2.95
8 South_Asian 2.82
9 East_Asian 2.16
10 Oceanian 0.89
11 Amerindian 0.86

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kumyk 7.35
2 Azeri 9.6
3 Turkish 9.88
4 Balkar 10.99
5 Adygei 11.63
6 Kabardin 11.73
7 Kurdish 13
8 Turkmen 13.26
9 Ossetian 13.38
10 North_Ossetian 13.46
11 Chechen 13.91
12 Lezgin 14.77
13 Iranian 14.82
14 Georgian 16.09
15 Armenian 16.35
16 Tabassaran 16.44
17 Georgian_Jewish 17.44
18 Nogay 17.53
19 Abhkasian 18.34
20 Assyrian 19.69

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 80% Kumyk + 20% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.48
2 81.2% Kumyk + 18.8% Italian_Jewish @ 2.62
3 59% Turkish + 41% Chechen @ 2.83
4 81.4% Kumyk + 18.6% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.93
5 81.6% Kumyk + 18.4% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.98
6 78.7% Kumyk + 21.3% South_Italian @ 2.99
7 63.3% Turkish + 36.7% Tabassaran @ 3.09
8 81.9% Kumyk + 18.1% Libyan_Jewish @ 3.14
9 58.5% Kumyk + 41.5% Turkish @ 3.15
10 67.2% North_Ossetian + 32.8% Ashkenazi @ 3.18
11 54.7% Turkish + 45.3% Kabardin @ 3.25
12 80.3% Kumyk + 19.7% Ashkenazi @ 3.27
13 80.8% Kumyk + 19.2% West_Sicilian @ 3.28
14 67.9% North_Ossetian + 32.1% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.31
15 71% Kabardin + 29% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.32
16 69.4% North_Ossetian + 30.6% Italian_Jewish @ 3.33
17 78.8% Kumyk + 21.2% East_Sicilian @ 3.36
18 60.8% Turkish + 39.2% Lezgin @ 3.37
19 78.7% Kumyk + 21.3% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.38
20 72.4% Kabardin + 27.6% Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.42
:D

Here are your simulated G25 coordinates based on Euro K36. You can use them for the time being

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