Gedmatch Eurogenes - Hunter Gatherer vs. Farmer Admixture Proportions

Not sure if this thread has been done yet but nontheless here it goes:

Population

Anatolian Farmer 23.87%
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 25.12%
Middle Eastern Herder 11.68%
South American Hunter Gatherer 0.52%
East African Pastoralist 0.50%
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.47%
Mediterranean Farmer 37.81%




I find this particular test amusing since when I was a kid I used to plant fruits and vegetables but all grown up me hunts white tale deer during this time of year. I've had more success "farming" so far in my life then hunting, but I've only been at it for 3 years now. And I don't use a tree stand.

Feel free to post your results here if you've taken.

I don't really think hunting in the modern age is necessary moat of the time.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...psec6e41fd.jpg

Population

Anatolian Farmer 26.06%
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 17.21%
Middle Eastern Herder 20.34%
East Asian Farmer 0.89%
South American Hunter Gatherer -
South Asian Hunter Gatherer -
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 0.46%
East African Pastoralist 1.73%
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer -
Mediterranean Farmer 33.13%
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer -
Bantu Farmer 0.17%

Me:

Anatolian Farmer 8.52%
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 53.84%
Middle Eastern Herder 2.93%
East Asian Farmer -
South American Hunter Gatherer 0.33%
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 0.87%
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer -
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.23%
Mediterranean Farmer 32.46%
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer -
Bantu Farmer 0.82%

Father:
Anatolian Farmer 6.45%
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 55.28%
Middle Eastern Herder 1.19%
East Asian Farmer -
South American Hunter Gatherer 0.49%
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 1.82%
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer -
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer -
Mediterranean Farmer 34.60%
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer 0.17%
Bantu Farmer -

Mother:
Anatolian Farmer 13.73%
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 52.24%
Middle Eastern Herder -
East Asian Farmer -
South American Hunter Gatherer -
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 0.87%
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer -
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.30%
Mediterranean Farmer 32.42%
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer -
Bantu Farmer 0.44%

(Her pie chart looks very plain, just 3 colours)

Phased files

Paternal Phased Data File:

Anatolian Farmer 4.82%
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 54.82%
Middle Eastern Herder 3.24%
East Asian Farmer 0.36%
South American Hunter Gatherer 0.80%
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 0.80%
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer -
East African Pastoralist 0.07%
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer -
Mediterranean Farmer 34.60%
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer -
Bantu Farmer 0.49%



Maternal Phased Data File:

Anatolian Farmer 12.25%
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 52.66%
Middle Eastern Herder 2.66%
East Asian Farmer -
South American Hunter Gatherer -
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 0.21%
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer -
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.96%
Mediterranean Farmer 30.28%
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer -
Bantu Farmer 0.98%

Anatolian Farmer 7.33%
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 34.09%
Middle Eastern Herder 9.04%
East Asian Farmer 0.07%
South American Hunter Gatherer 0.57%
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 0.71%
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer -
East African Pastoralist 2.70%
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.24%
Mediterranean Farmer 44.90%
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer -
Bantu Farmer 0.35%

http://i47.tinypic.com/25tjfrq.jpg

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Originally Posted by Raine

http://i47.tinypic.com/25tjfrq.jpg

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ummmm....are we like related or something?:icon_ask:

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Originally Posted by Vesuvian Sky

ummmm....are we like related or something?:icon_ask:

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Apparently our ancestors were hunting on the same tracks :D

http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/7457/graphsi.jpg

Baltic Hunter Gatherer 58.20%
Mediterranean Farmer 33.39%
Anatolian Farmer 6.84%

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Originally Posted by Vesuvian Sky

ummmm....are we like related or something?:icon_ask:

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You're Magna Graecian, she's Greek. ;) She just has a little more Baltic which is to be expected.

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Originally Posted by Sikeliot

You're Magna Graecian, she's Greek. ;) She just has a little more Baltic which is to be expected.

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Haha! Yeah I found that out yesterday after being snoooooopy.:D

Like I've said before, if you are southern Eye-talian you have Greek blood. My family always laughed at me when I said that but now I have the evidence to come back at them with the following: We're basically wayward Greeks with a Romano-Latin facade.:D

Hmmm, more Baltic eh? So does this mean she'd be better at hunting then I am?:D

Me

http://i.imgur.com/3f7seMz.jpg?1

My grandfather

http://i.imgur.com/wiMQMvL.jpg?1


Biggest difference is that he got about 3% higher at his north Eurasian component. He's more mong while I'm more wog :) I got higher East Asian and higher South Asian though.

The 1.10% Pygmy is really strange, but interesting since it keeps following him in many calculators.

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Originally Posted by Raine

Apparently our ancestors were hunting on the same tracks :D

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Ah! so perhaps its more southern Aurignacian then with a smattering of Neolithic invaders?;):cool:

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Originally Posted by Vesuvian Sky

Haha! Yeah I found that out yesterday after being snoooooopy.:D

Like I've said before, if you are southern Eye-talian you have Greek blood. My family always laughed at me when I said that but now I have the evidence to come back at them with the following: We're basically wayward Greeks with a Romano-Latin facade.:D

Hmmm, more Baltic eh? So does this mean she'd be better at hunting then I am?:D

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I don't know why that would be a laughing matter. I thought it was something everyone knew. :lol:

Your ancestry is from which province -- Campania mostly right?

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Originally Posted by Graham

http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/7457/graphsi.jpg

Baltic Hunter Gatherer 58.20%
Mediterranean Farmer 33.39%
Anatolian Farmer 6.84%

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Compared with my family across the pond:

Me:
http://imageshack.us/a/img24/346/moipw.png

Uncle:
http://imageshack.us/a/img255/1173/unclex.png

Granny:
http://imageshack.us/a/img687/320/granny.png

Aunt:
http://imageshack.us/a/img577/9513/aunt.png


The most notable difference is minor Asian input, while my aunt matches you quite well..

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Originally Posted by Sikeliot

I don't know why that would be a laughing matter. I thought it was something everyone knew. :lol:

Your ancestry is from which province -- Campania mostly right?

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2 Campanian ancestors: Caserta and Torre Del Greco
1 Lazio ancestor: Rome
1 Sicilian ancestors: Palermo
2 Apulian ancestors: Bari

Just about all of these places had ample Greek settlements. Ergo my 'Magna Grecian' results. Also on McDonalds, he gave my secondary location as Greece.


Also have 1 Savoyard ancestor - she was from the French side of the border but ethnically Italian

My family is generally a bit unusual. I am always surprised that i seemed to have inherited all the Middle-eastern genes in my family. No idea how i got more than my predecessors lol. The great irony is my grandfather looks quite atypical, but he is the most typical member of my entire family. :D
My grandmother is the most 'Atlanto-Med' (in genetic terms) of my family, which fits with her 'English with a slight south-western pull' general makeup. She is also a bit East Asian apparently. xD To go with my grandfather's North Asian that keeps showing up...

Me:

Anatolian Farmer 8.52%
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 53.84%
Middle Eastern Herder 2.93%
East Asian Farmer -
South American Hunter Gatherer 0.33%
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 0.87%
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer -
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.23%
Mediterranean Farmer 32.46%
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer -
Bantu Farmer 0.82%

Father:

Anatolian Farmer 6.45%
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 55.28%
Middle Eastern Herder 1.19%
East Asian Farmer -
South American Hunter Gatherer 0.49%
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 1.82%
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer -
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer -
Mediterranean Farmer 34.60%
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer 0.17%
Bantu Farmer -

Mother:

Anatolian Farmer 13.73%
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 52.24%
Middle Eastern Herder -
East Asian Farmer -
South American Hunter Gatherer -
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 0.87%
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer -
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.30%
Mediterranean Farmer 32.42%
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer -
Bantu Farmer 0.44%

Aunt (Mother's Sister):

Anatolian Farmer 8.65%
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 54.94%
Middle Eastern Herder -
East Asian Farmer -
South American Hunter Gatherer 0.61%
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 1.44%
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer -
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.25%
Mediterranean Farmer 33.71%
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer -
Bantu Farmer 0.39%

Paternal Grandfather:

Anatolian Farmer 8.60%
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 56.13%
Middle Eastern Herder -
East Asian Farmer -
South American Hunter Gatherer 0.06%
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 1.31%
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 0.83%
East African Pastoralist 0.16%
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer -
Mediterranean Farmer 32.91%
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer -
Bantu Farmer -

Paternal Grandmother:

Anatolian Farmer 7.73%
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 54.41%
Middle Eastern Herder 0.92%
East Asian Farmer 0.99%
South American Hunter Gatherer 0.26%
South Asian Hunter Gatherer -
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer -
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer -
Mediterranean Farmer 35.60%
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer 0.10%
Bantu Farmer -

Population
Anatolian Farmer 4.06%
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 78.17%
Middle Eastern Herder -
East Asian Farmer 0.65%
South American Hunter Gatherer 0.49%
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 0.70%
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 1.98%
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.37%
Mediterranean Farmer 13.60%
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer -
Bantu Farmer -

http://ww2.gedmatch.com:8006/autosom...117_79B01E.gif

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/7769/38598720.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img706/153/0002p.png
30.77% Mediterranean Farmer
24.01% Anatolian Farmer
23.09% Baltic Hunter Gatherer
17.77% Middle Eastern Herder
2.53% East African Pastoralist
1.70% South Asian Hunter Gatherer
0.11% Bantu Farmer

Baltic Hunter Gatherer 59.37%
Mediterranean Farmer 23.90%
Anatolian Farmer 9.31%
Bantu Farmer 2.33%
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 1.76%
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 1.22%
East Asian Farmer 0.59%
South American Hunter Gatherer 0.95%
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer 0.50%
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 0.06%


Middle Eastern Herder -
East African Pastoralist -

67.41% Baltic Hunter Gatherer
25.77% Mediterranean Farmer
4.41% Anatolian Farmer
1.67% North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer
0.74% East Asian Farmer
- Middle Eastern Herder
- South American Hunter Gatherer
- South Asian Hunter Gatherer
- East African Pastoralist
- Oceanian Hunter Gatherer
- Pygmy Hunter Gatherer
- Bantu Farmer

Anatolian Farmer 53.88%
Mediterranean Farmer 16.79%
Middle Eastern Herder 15.28%
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 8.77%
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 3.17%
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 1.12%
South American Hunter Gatherer 0.72%
East African Pastoralist 0.15%
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.12%
East Asian Farmer -
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer -
Bantu Farmer -

And so the penny drops.

We separate the bestiality-inclined from the inbred.

Eurogenes Hunter_Gatherer vs. Farmer

Population
Anatolian Farmer 6.53%
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 73.79%
South American Hunter Gatherer 0.34%
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 1.79%
East African Pastoralist 0.27%
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.11%
Mediterranean Farmer 17.17%

Quote:

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Originally Posted by FaerieQueene

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30.77% Mediterranean Farmer
24.01% Anatolian Farmer
23.09% Baltic Hunter Gatherer
17.77% Middle Eastern Herder
2.53% East African Pastoralist
1.70% South Asian Hunter Gatherer
0.11% Bantu Farmer

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FaerieQueene's Mother:

52.25% Baltic Hunter Gatherer
31.30% Mediterranean Farmer
12.46% Anatolian Farmer
1.46% Middle Eastern Herder
1.02% South Asian Hunter Gatherer
0.69% South American Hunter Gather
0.53% East African Pastoralist
0.27% Bantu Farmer

FaerieQueene's Father:

34.77% Anatolian Farmer
34.15% Middle Eastern Herder
26.86% Mediterranean Farmer
3.38% East African Pastoralist
0.69% South Asian Hunter Gatherer
0.09% East Asian Farmer
0.06% Baltic Hunter Gatherer

Mine:

Population
Anatolian Farmer 12.82%
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 54.60%
Middle Eastern Herder 4.30%
East Asian Farmer -
South American Hunter Gatherer 0.58%
South Asian Hunter Gatherer -
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 1.87%
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 1.40%
Mediterranean Farmer 24.31%
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer 0.09%
Bantu Farmer -

Mediterranean Farmer 34.16%
Anatolian Farmer 28.43%
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 25.41%
Middle Eastern Herder 11.12%
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 0.22%
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.65%

Weird, Oceanian seems to turn up in most of the calculators I've used. Wonder if it's noise or if there's an Abo in the family tree.

Anatolian Farmer 8.35%
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 59.12%
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 1.18%
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.90%
Mediterranean Farmer 30.43%

Baltic Hunter Gatherer 50.86%
Mediterranean Farmer 33.93%
Anatolian Farmer 9.66%
Middle Eastern Herder 5.07%
East African Pastoralist 0.42%
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer 0.06%

Baltic Hunter Gatherer 54.95%
Mediterranean Farmer 34.78%
Anatolian Farmer 7.58%
Middle Eastern Herder 1.32%
East African Pastoralist 0.57%
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer 0.38%
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 0.35%
Bantu Farmer 0.06%

Anatolian Farmer 8.86%
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 52.98%
Mediterranean Farmer 36.74%

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Originally Posted by Vesuvian Sky

ummmm....are we like related or something?:icon_ask:

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I think all three of us are!

http://i61.tinypic.com/33m3peq.gif

Baltic Hunter Gatherer 35.66%
Mediterranean Farmer 33.04%
Anatolian Farmer 20.05%
Middle Eastern Herder 8.59%
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 1.15%
East African Pastoralist 0.76%
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 0.62%
South American Hunter Gatherer 0.12%
Bantu Farmer -
East Asian Farmer -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer -
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer -

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Originally Posted by Dál Riata

I think all three of us are!

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Interesting results.:) The Eurasian you got suggests some fairly archaic Eurasian hunter-gatherer genes you have based on what we know form the Lazeridis et al 2013 paper. Makes sense too given your haplogroups. Aside from that difference though we have relatively similar ratios.:thumb001:

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Originally Posted by Vesuvian Sky

Interesting results.:) The Eurasian you got suggests some fairly archaic Eurasian hunter-gatherer genes you have based on what we know form the Lazeridis et al 2013 paper. Makes sense too given your haplogroups. Aside from that difference though we have relatively similar ratios.:thumb001:

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Yeh, I've got the same haplogroups as the Mal'ta boy! Makes him feel like a long lost great, great, multi-great uncle or something! :D

Kind of ironic that he was found in Mal'ta, Siberia and my Mum is from Malta the country. But I think the link to him comes form my Scottish side. My Maltese side would probably be an even closer match to you and Raine. Just shows the similarity between Greece, Sicily/South Italy and Malta as Sikeliot has been telling me (though I already knew there was some similarity, I didn't realise it was so close!).

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Originally Posted by Dál Riata

Yeh, I've got the same haplogroups as the Mal'ta boy! Makes him feel like a long lost great, great, multi-great uncle or something! :D

Kind of ironic that he was found in Mal'ta, Siberia and my Mum is from Malta the country. But I think the link to him comes form my Scottish side. My Maltese side would probably be an even closer match to you and Raine. Just shows the similarity between Greece, Sicily/South Italy and Malta as Sikeliot has been telling me (though I already knew there was some similarity, I didn't realise it was so close!).

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Indeed since your Baltic component came out more which your Eurasian clearly corresponds with. Totally to be expected. And naturally that would correspond well with N. European ancestry. The Neolithic traits you have are naturally reduced compared to Raine and I's.

Anatolian Farmer 7.74%
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 57.00%
Middle Eastern Herder 2.57%
East Asian Farmer -
South American Hunter Gatherer -
South Asian Hunter Gatherer -
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 0.74%
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer -
Mediterranean Farmer 31.96%
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer -
Bantu Farmer -

Anatolian Farmer 8.58%
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 57.03%
Middle Eastern Herder -
East Asian Farmer -
South American Hunter Gatherer -
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 0.70%
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer -
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer -
Mediterranean Farmer 33.58%
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer 0.10%
Bantu Farmer -

Anatolian Farmer 27.89%
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 13.43%
Middle Eastern Herder 17.70%
East Asian Farmer 1.46%
South American Hunter Gatherer 0.60%
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 0.25%
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer 0.24%
East African Pastoralist 1.47%
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer -
Mediterranean Farmer 36.58%
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer -
Bantu Farmer 0.39%

Anatolian Farmer 8.35%
Baltic Hunter Gatherer 54.06%
Middle Eastern Herder -
East Asian Farmer -
South American Hunter Gatherer 0.28%
South Asian Hunter Gatherer 2.36%
North Eurasian Hunter Gatherer -
East African Pastoralist -
Oceanian Hunter Gatherer -
Mediterranean Farmer 33.91%
Pygmy Hunter Gatherer 0.53%
Bantu Farmer 0.50%