The non-Aryan origin of "Iranians"

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Originally Posted by Danishmend

Have you tried to check "arabs" page? That's well known wiki based humor/troll website i think some ofs content is pretty funny.

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Yes, i did. I also checked Armenian, Kurds, Jews and etc, and yes, its funny. Anyways, pan-Turanism, like Afrocentrism or any other ethnocentric ideologies, is based on mythology and racism. Like MANY people have said, the Scythians, Parthians, and other nomadic Iranic peoples are NOT Turkic, and it was them who forged Turkic culture and heritage rather than the other way around. You want to be a mongol? go right ahead, but don't try to force other Turkic peoples in joining the Turan army of yours against Iran and etc. Most central Asian Turkic peoples dont give two craps about that nor do they wish to associate themselves to the middle east.

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Originally Posted by Gilgamesh900

Yes, i did. I also checked Armenian, Kurds, Jews and etc, and yes, its funny. Anyways, pan-Turanism, like Afrocentrism or any other ethnocentric ideologies, is based on mythology and racism. Like MANY people have said, the Scythians, Parthians, and other nomadic Iranic peoples are NOT Turkic, and it was them who forged Turkic culture and heritage rather than the other way around. You want to be a mongol? go right ahead, but don't try to force other Turkic peoples in joining the Turan army of yours against Iran and etc. Most central Asian Turkic peoples dont give two craps about that nor do they wish to associate themselves to the middle east.

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Now I'm even more convinced that you suffer from schizophrenia.

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Originally Posted by justme

To me turks and Armenians look so alike...

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Not surprising since Armenians make up a substantial ancestry of Anatolian turks.

Another troll thread! What else is new?
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Originally Posted by Gilgamesh900

Lol, your the one to talk. Turks are nothing but Turkified native Anatolians with minor Turkic admixture, and genetically, Turks cluster very close to the people they hate than their so called Turkic bretheren in central and north asia.

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Azerbajanis are Turkified Iranians

Aryan schmaryan. Lets all unite under Islam.

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Originally Posted by Armenian Bishop

Another troll thread! What else is new?
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BBC is troll ? lol

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Originally Posted by gültekin

BBC is troll ? lol

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That's True, BBC articles have credibility, and this one too. I haven't examined it carefully. The hostile remarks, insults and flaming passion gave me the impression that it's a troll thread, but not because of the opening post.

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Originally Posted by Armenian Bishop

That's True, BBC articles have credibility, and this one too. I haven't examined it carefully. Because of the hostile remarks, insults and flaming passion, I judged it to be a troll thread, but not because of the opening post.

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some people can handle such things and have started this campaign, created sockpuppets to provoke etc., sadly

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Originally Posted by lameduck

Iranian definitely have lot higher ANE than their Arab neighbors.

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you guys falling anytime in this trap, Arabs are an ethnicity, but "Iranian" is not. in Iran living many different ethnic groups. for a more reliably determine the Persians should counted as reference, not the whole Iran
they have different types of Y-DNA

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Originally Posted by gültekin

FTDNA Y-DNA results about the ethnic groups of Iran:
http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/sho...-Project/page3
https://www.familytreedna.com/public...ction=yresults
Assyrian
F3-P96
G1*-M342
G2a-P15
J1*-M267
T1-M320

Azeri
G*-M201
R2a-M124
R2a-M124

Arab
G-M201
G1*-M342
J1-M267
R1a1-M17

Judeo-Persian
R2a-M124

Luri
E1b1b1-M35
J2a4b-M67

Parsi/Tati (Transcaucasian Persian)
E1b1b1c1-M34

Persian
G-M201
G1a-P20
J2-M172 (x2)
J2a4a-M47
J2a4b-M67
J2a4d-M319
Q*-M242

Qajar
J1*-M267

Seyyed
J1c3d-L147

Tajik
R2*-M479

Talysh
G2a3b1-P303

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