Eurogenes K36 Oracle: my results

Population

Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 4.68
Basque 3.14
Central_African -
Central_Euro 2.15
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 8.96
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 5.23
East_Med 12.07
Eastern_Euro 2.83
Fennoscandian 4.20
French 4.36
Iberian 4.21
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 25.63
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 5.97
North_African -
North_Atlantic 6.34
North_Caucasian 4.49
North_Sea 1.40
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian 0.32
West_Med 4.00

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Originally Posted by All-In

who is the Kurd reference btw. ? where is he/she from etc. ?

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Not one person:) 15 Kurds are in average. Most samples are from groups bigger than 10 people. Most of Near East have about 15-30 persons in averages.
French have 40. Poland mean sample 90. Welsh 40 etc.

Give me some results for Kurds in K36 and I check if their results are close.

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Originally Posted by Sikeliot

I am trying to find trends in these results but I cannot, other than that Palermo is a very diverse cluster, Trapani is a bit northward shifted, Agrigento and Messina very exotic, and some of the Aegean islands are much more "northern" shifted than others.

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It's for checking population distances and possible or real ancestry breakdown.

For trends ratehr PCA is better.

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Originally Posted by mlukas

Not one person:) 15 Kurds are in average.

Give me some results for Kurds in K36 and I check if their results are close.

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well I am at distance 7.6 which means that those 15 Kurds are mostly from other areas . I hope you didnt use the "Kurd_SE" stuff from the member "Kurd" because they arent Kurds

and I have only gedmatch Kits from Kurds of my homeprovince only

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Originally Posted by The Illyrian Warrior

Ethnicity
Albanian
Ancestry
Ancient Dardanian Albanian Kosovar

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Albania_North @ 8,74224
2 GR_Peloponese2 @ 9,523942
3 GR_Istanbul @ 11,072841
4 Kosovar @ 11,321755
5 Albania_South @ 11,743854
6 GR_Cyclades @ 11,89258
7 Gr_Eubea @ 12,050963
8 Greek_Peloponnes @ 12,154212
9 GR_Epirus @ 12,319808
10 GR_Macedonia2 @ 12,701951
11 GR_Pontic @ 12,828847
12 Greek_Macedonia @ 12,958399
13 Gr_Andros @ 14,091777
14 IT_Friuli @ 14,715422
15 Gr_Chios @ 14,743386
16 Bulgarian @ 14,921393
17 GR_Kythera @ 15,197183
18 Macedonian @ 15,354556
19 Montenegrian @ 15,524152
20 Sicily_Trapani @ 15,653014
179 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 GR_Cyclades+Albania_North @ 7,820336
2 GR_Istanbul+Albania_North @ 8,02006
3 GR_Peloponese2+Albania_North @ 8,167981
4 Albania_North+Albania_North @ 8,74224
5 GR_Pontic+Albania_North @ 8,821612
6 Greek_Macedonia+Albania_North @ 9,138745
7 GR_Peloponese2+GR_Istanbul @ 9,346425
8 Kosovar+GR_Cyclades @ 9,445246
9 Gr_Chios+Albania_North @ 9,492927
10 Gr_Eubea+Albania_North @ 9,497192


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Albania_North +25% GR_Istanbul +25% GR_Cyclades @ 7,525328
2 50% Albania_North +25% GR_Cyclades +25% Albania_North @ 7,539834
3 50% Albania_North +25% GR_Peloponese2 +25% GR_Cyclades @ 7,724989
4 50% Albania_North +25% GR_Peloponese2 +25% GR_Istanbul @ 7,790597
5 50% GR_Cyclades +25% Albania_North +25% Albania_North @ 7,820336
6 50% Albania_North +25% GR_Istanbul +25% Albania_North @ 7,846979
7 50% Albania_North +25% GR_Istanbul +25% GR_Pontic @ 7,875151
8 50% Albania_North +25% Greek_Macedonia +25% GR_Cyclades @ 7,893467
9 50% Albania_North +25% GR_Pontic +25% GR_Cyclades @ 7,902549
10 50% Albania_North +25% Bulgarian +25% GR_Cyclades @ 7,971649


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 GR_Istanbul+GR_Cyclades+Albania_North+Albania_Nort h @ 7,525328
2 GR_Cyclades+Albania_North+Albania_North+Albania_No rth @ 7,539834
3 GR_Peloponese2+GR_Cyclades+Albania_North+Albania_N orth @ 7,724989
4 GR_Peloponese2+GR_Istanbul+Albania_North+Albania_N orth @ 7,790597
5 GR_Cyclades+GR_Cyclades+Albania_North+Albania_Nort h @ 7,820336
6 GR_Istanbul+Albania_North+Albania_North+Albania_No rth @ 7,846979
7 GR_Istanbul+GR_Pontic+Albania_North+Albania_North @ 7,875151
8 Greek_Macedonia+GR_Cyclades+Albania_North+Albania_ North @ 7,893467
9 GR_Pontic+GR_Cyclades+Albania_North+Albania_North @ 7,902549
10 Bulgarian+GR_Cyclades+Albania_North+Albania_North @ 7,971649



Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0,130062

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Albania_North @ 4,405153
2 Kosovar @ 4,754171
3 GR_Peloponese2 @ 4,841369
4 Greek_Macedonia @ 4,912277
5 GR_Cyclades @ 4,987101
6 IT_Friuli @ 5,09373
7 Macedonian @ 5,220389
8 Montenegrian @ 5,422777
9 Albania_South @ 5,488561
10 Bulgarian @ 5,590263
11 Greek_Peloponnes @ 5,704277
12 North_Italy @ 5,823557
13 IT_Veneto @ 5,881629
14 GR_Istanbul @ 6,090501
15 Gr_Eubea @ 6,132034
16 Serbian @ 6,188674
17 Greek_Azov @ 6,85353
18 GR_Macedonia2 @ 7,037438
19 Bosnian @ 7,156192
20 Ashkenazi_Eastern_Euro @ 7,313808
179 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 GR_Istanbul+GR_Pontic @ 4,357899
2 GR_Cyclades+Albania_North @ 4,365387
3 GR_Cyclades+IT_Friuli @ 4,366582
4 Greek_Macedonia+Albania_North @ 4,390979
5 Albania_North+Albania_North @ 4,405153
6 GR_Istanbul+Albania_North @ 4,428456
7 GR_Pontic+Austria @ 4,433299
8 GR_Pontic+IT_Friuli @ 4,444079
9 GR_Epirus+Austria @ 4,45475
10 GR_Cyclades+IT_Veneto @ 4,459869

Those are bit strange probably for your ancestry.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% GR_Epirus +25% Frisian_DK +25% GR_Epirus @ 3,874484
2 50% GR_Epirus +25% Frisian_DK +25% GR_Pontic @ 3,984715
3 50% GR_Pontic +25% Frisian_DK +25% GR_Epirus @ 4,075912
4 50% GR_Pontic +25% Albania_North +25% Austria @ 4,075938
5 50% GR_Epirus +25% Frisian_DK +25% Gr_Kalymnos @ 4,085688


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Frisian_DK+GR_Epirus+GR_Epirus+GR_Epirus @ 3,874484
2 Frisian_DK+GR_Epirus+GR_Epirus+GR_Pontic @ 3,984715
3 GR_Epirus+GR_Pontic+Albania_North+Austria @ 4,049744
4 Frisian_DK+GR_Epirus+GR_Pontic+GR_Pontic @ 4,075912
5 GR_Pontic+GR_Pontic+Albania_North+Austria @ 4,075938

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Originally Posted by mlukas

It's for checking population distances and possible or real ancestry breakdown.

For trends ratehr PCA is better.

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So what I'd ask is, if you can make two clusters out of Palermo, with some of them being like Trapani, who are the others closest to?

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Originally Posted by All-In

well I am at distance 7.6 which means that those 15 Kurds are mostly from other areas . I hope you didnt use the "Kurd_SE" stuff from the member "Kurd" because they arent Kurds

and I have only gedmatch Kits from Kurds of my homeprovince only

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No. I find them on Gedmatch. They are from Iraq, Iran and Turkey so the average is more distant from you. You are Turkish Kurd yes?
You can sent me PM with kits. You see I use them only in averages. Or you can send me their results in K36 only. And I make regional sample from them.

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Originally Posted by mlukas

No. I find them on Gedmatch. they are from Iraq, Iran and Turkey so the average is more distant from you. As you are Turkish Kurd yes?
You can sent me PM with kits. You see I use them only in averages. Or you can send me their results in K36 only. And I make regional sample from them.

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yes I am from Turkey

I will send you Kurdish results from my homeplace soon . thank you buddy

I notice Andros, Chios, and Cyclades are mainland Greek shifted to some degree.

Can you do me, three quarters slovak, one quarter american mix, mostly british isles with some german and french ancestry. kit A100643

Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian 0.21
Basque 1.52
Central_African -
Central_Euro 5.72
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 3.89
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 14.00
East_Med 2.42
Eastern_Euro 14.84
Fennoscandian 11.68
French 6.26
Iberian 12.32
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 2.34
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 8.11
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 15.06
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 1.63
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med -