Dodecad Ancestry Project

Some of the Spanish are nearly half NW European. I noticed the main differences;

Spanish have more NW European and Basque than the Portuguese, who seem to have more NW African than the Spanish.

Greeks have much more NE European and slightly more West Asian than the Italians, who have more SW Asian and NW European than the Greeks, and an element of NW African lacking altogether in the Greeks.

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Originally Posted by Loki

^^ It's amazing that the British and Irish are so alike ... almost as if the Anglo-Saxons didn't change the genetic composition at all ... or, were very similar to the Celts anyway.

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Yet the Irish might have more generally Germanic and Viking influences than some people think they have too probably...

Probably some "old stock Welsh" are less Germanic influenced than many Irish actually...

Does anyone have the one for the French? Since Iberians often cluster with the French on genetic plots I'm curious if their graph looks similar, particularly to the Spanish one since they have so much NW European.

If you ask me, these results entirely corroborate peer-reviewed studies, which show that the Spanish tend to pull toward Northwest Europe while S. Italians and Greeks tend to pull toward the Middle East, while all of these groups remain in the Southern European cluster.

Also notice that the British and Irish do overlap ;)

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y161/Zyklop/dna1.png

This is based on Americans with 4 grandparents all from the same country - you can see that the Spanish fall somewhere between the British-Americans and the (South) Italian and Greek-Americans. I'd expect the French to cluster right with the Spanish but with more overlap with the British.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_6Hzs-1W_Qw...2008-fig3b.png

Here you have more, all have the same pattern, spaniards clustering between French and north-italians and pulling towards Basques :

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/8453/mcdonald1.png

http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/2544/laoplotvu4.jpg

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/7...08210f3th9.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_x6Y4ZgFsZd...CgraphEuro.png

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Ish7688voT...05472.s007.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Ish7688voT...urasianpca.jpg

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3...scalabeled.jpg

http://oi52.tinypic.com/335gmd4.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Ish7688voT...00/MDS1600.png

So I guess there are 2 ways to look at it; Iberians are halfway between French and Northern Italians, or they are halfway between Southern Italians/Greeks and British/Irish if using groups further apart geographically.

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Originally Posted by Pallantides

After seeing these results, I think we need to close the Norwegian border totally ... I don't want any of that green stuff in my future children.:D:D:D

Not even Brits, Germans and Swedes may enter the kingdom of Norway.

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All the Germans have that green stuff. :D

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Originally Posted by Pallantides

After seeing these results, I think we need to close the Norwegian border totally ... I don't want any of that green stuff in my future children.:D:D:D

Not even Brits, Germans and Swedes may enter the kingdom of Norway.

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The green stuff originates in Georgia and the bordering areas of Russia.

I hope you know I was joking...:D

Though it's still interesting that none of the Norwegians have any 'West Asian' in the K-11 run.

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Originally Posted by celtabria

The green stuff originates in Georgia and the bordering areas of Russia.

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Well, I'd say it is the or at least one of the Anatolian-Mesopotamian Neolithic signals and spread from there in all directions.

It just survived in the Caucasian mountains somewhat better, because being there better isolated than in Anatolia from other, later influences.