Arpad dynasty DNA (kings of Hungary & Croatia)

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Originally Posted by Turul Karom

The proto - Magyars were a blend of Ugric and Turkic peoples, with a Turkic culture and a fusion of Uralic (Ugric branch) and Turkic words for the language. Therefore it does not surprise me if the R1 downstream is either.

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Problem is that Z280 is by far most common type of R1a is all southern slavic countries (except Bulgaria), and we don't have any known Turkic connections.

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Originally Posted by Coinneach

Because of fact that Hungarians (whatever they was called back then) took Christianity and were baptized they rescued original R1a language of Ugro-Permic folk, conquerors (Rome Christianity) impose rules, religion and language. White Croats and Serbs went south (or already were there) imposed their language to other Sarmatians (like R1a M458 people)

easy as that

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So you think that White Croats and Serbs "slavicized" Rethelites? Then from where they picked up this language, since I2-Din didn't speak IE haha.

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Originally Posted by Turul Karom

The proto - Magyars were a blend of Ugric and Turkic peoples, with a Turkic culture and a fusion of Uralic (Ugric branch) and Turkic words for the language. Therefore it does not surprise me if the R1 downstream is either.

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The Turks where nowhere when the proto-Magyars existed in the Western Siberian steppe (Cherkaskul culture). They were Aryan-Ugric admixture between the frames of the post-Andronovan world. The early medieval Magyars admixed with Turks from the West Old Turkic speakers.

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Originally Posted by Stearsolina

Problem is that Z280 is by far most common type of R1a is all southern slavic countries (except Bulgaria), and we don't have any known Turkic connections.

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Not all Z280 are Balto-Slavic exclusively. There are some exceptions.

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Originally Posted by Bosniensis

I do attack modern Turks from Turkey because they are not real Turks but fake Turks.

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How do you mean, the ones mixed with persian origins and arabs in Turkey? Because thats what happened and still being happened today, their DNA is changing

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Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic

Not all Z280 are Balto-Slavic exclusively. There are some exceptions.

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Yes, it is common in Finno Ugric groups as well. But not among Turks. Only among Tatars and Chuvash, who are largerly turkicized Volga Finnic peoples.

Central Asian Turks are by far pred. Z93.

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Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic

So you think that White Croats and Serbs "slavicized" Rethelites? Then from where they picked up this language, since I2-Din didn't speak IE haha.

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Svaanik Kumar explain South Slavic & Sanskrit similarities, and please also note that Old-Avestan is also closer to South Slavic than to R1ethelite languages

https://youtu.be/ptDVaVlw9m4

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Originally Posted by Turul Karom

The proto - Magyars were a blend of Ugric and Turkic peoples, with a Turkic culture and a fusion of Uralic (Ugric branch) and Turkic words for the language. Therefore it does not surprise me if the R1 downstream is either.

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Wrong again. Some loanwords doesn't make a language turkic. Before the language reforms of Kazinczy and his later followers, Hungarians have much more Latin and Germanic words in the vocabulary than Turkic. In the Old pre-19th century Hungarian vocabulary The most common was finno-ugric (and still the majority of the word are finno ugric origin,) It was followed by Slav Latin and Germanic origin words, than it was followed by Iranian and Turkic origin words.

Hungarians simply have the least eastern (mongoloid ) markers in the general population in the former communist Eastern Block countries.

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Originally Posted by Bosniensis

I2a1 is Turkic

R1a is Indo-European Balkan Native & Slavic.

Avars came to Dalmatia as I2a1, conquered it, pillaged it and now we live here.

Bosniaks, Serbs and Croats who carry I2 are Avars Turks children of Bayan.

R1a are Slavic & Native survivors who fled to Hungary and North East.

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I2a1 can't be turkic in any case. Even if Avars had this, those are some assimilated already IE-speaking folks.

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Originally Posted by Buusra

How do you mean, the ones mixed with persian origins and arabs in Turkey? Because thats what happened and still being happened today, their DNA is changing

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Anatolia is mix of everything. To say they are all Turks is ridiculous.

Islamized Armenians, Serbs, Albanians, Syrian, Egyptians + then you have Turks, Mongols

Turkey is the most mixed country in Universe, just check the Haplogroups in Istanbul