Post your ILLUSTRATIVE DNA results

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Originally Posted by DarkoV

How do you explain the close autosomal relatedness with me of people living in early medieval Scandinavia who have the following haplogroups: R1a, R1b, N1a, I1a, I2a and E1b? Is it a coincidence?

Likewise, "illustrative dnk" shows a strong connection with Scandinavia.

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You don't have a strong autosomal relatedness with indigenous people living in early medieval Scandinavia. As for the small matches in cM at MTA they are typically false positives as anyone dealing with DNA genealogy and matching can confirm. In case of both sidedly unphased DNA like here you need about 700 SNPs (without maybe imputed SNPs) for a matching segment to be assumend a real match and not a so called false zigzag match (as for zigzag matches see here:https://blog.kittycooper.com/2014/10...or-ibs-or-ibc/ ). And as for having resemblances in the ancestry composition with particular individuals from there I elaborated above that they are not indigenous and what they genetically are like. You have a resemblance with Germanic-Slavic mixtures as you are that yourself to a notable degree. The reason why in particular a lot of finds from Scandinavia show up is that they have over proportionally many finds from Scandinavia.

In your general ancestry composition, i. e. your autosomal genetics, you exhibit exactly like other Kajkavian speakers:

https://i.imgur.com/D2Bkq2D.jpeg

Do you also have G25 coords from Illustrative DNA for your wife that is from Dalmatia? Does she have four ethnic Croatian grandparents if you don't mind to tell?

Thank you for the explanation.
Yes. These are her closest results and coordinates.


Genetically Closest Ancient Populations

Medieval South Slav (Doclea)
AD 710–1163
2.303

Post-Medieval Syrmia
AD 1461–1635
3.162

Byzantine Slav (Nicaea)
AD 680–820
3.545

Byzantine Slav (Tragurium)
AD 660–780
4.348

Johannes Corvinus (Hunyadi Family)
AD 1473–1504
4.414

Medieval South Slav (Ryahovets)
AD 1000–1250
4.468

Early Medieval Bohemian Slav
AD 500-941
4.497

Visigoth (Iberia)
AD 500–600
4.534

Izyaslav Ingvarevich (Rurik Dynasty)
AD 1180–1223
4.853

Medieval South Slav (Bitola)
AD 992–1121
4.911

Code:

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Marija_scaled,0.132035,0.135065,0.047894,0.024548,0.03693,0.003904,0.00282,0.008538,-0.00634,-0.002369,0.002761,-0.004196,0.006244,0.022432,-0.006515,0.003978,0.011343,-0.004054,0.007793,0.000875,-0.010232,-0.00272,0.000863,0.004699,-0.004431

Marija,0.0116,0.0133,0.0127,0.0076,0.012,0.0014,0.0012,0.0037,-0.0031,-0.0013,0.0017,-0.0028,0.0042,0.0163,-0.0048,0.003,0.0087,-0.0032,0.0062,0.0007,-0.0082,-0.0022,0.0007,0.0039,-0.0037

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Target: Marija_scaled
Distance: 2.3976% / 0.02397643

59.0 Slavic_medieval
41.0 Illyro-Roman

https://i.imgur.com/nqZOlxj.png

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Originally Posted by DarkoV

Thank you for the explanation.
Yes. These are her closest results and coordinates.


Genetically Closest Ancient Populations

Medieval South Slav (Doclea)
AD 710–1163
2.303

Post-Medieval Syrmia
AD 1461–1635
3.162

Byzantine Slav (Nicaea)
AD 680–820
3.545

Byzantine Slav (Tragurium)
AD 660–780
4.348

Johannes Corvinus (Hunyadi Family)
AD 1473–1504
4.414

Medieval South Slav (Ryahovets)
AD 1000–1250
4.468

Early Medieval Bohemian Slav
AD 500-941
4.497

Visigoth (Iberia)
AD 500–600
4.534

Izyaslav Ingvarevich (Rurik Dynasty)
AD 1180–1223
4.853

Medieval South Slav (Bitola)
AD 992–1121
4.911

Code:

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Marija_scaled,0.132035,0.135065,0.047894,0.024548,0.03693,0.003904,0.00282,0.008538,-0.00634,-0.002369,0.002761,-0.004196,0.006244,0.022432,-0.006515,0.003978,0.011343,-0.004054,0.007793,0.000875,-0.010232,-0.00272,0.000863,0.004699,-0.004431

Marija,0.0116,0.0133,0.0127,0.0076,0.012,0.0014,0.0012,0.0037,-0.0031,-0.0013,0.0017,-0.0028,0.0042,0.0163,-0.0048,0.003,0.0087,-0.0032,0.0062,0.0007,-0.0082,-0.0022,0.0007,0.0039,-0.0037

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Thanks!

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Originally Posted by Scarface F

Also, mytrue Ancestry is simple trash. Extremely low level site, so if you get "Viking" samples there it is totally meaningless.

Your haplogroup to add is pretty central European, and possibly assimilated to Goths, but it is not originally Germanic.

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I think Goths were quite likely bearers of it, not originally but via mixing and assimilations of other tribes moving from their homeland and going further south-east. Some subranches of L260 can be found in Italy, Spain and France where Goths left their genetic print, thus probably spreading it in the Balkans too. Some subranches can most likely be connected with Gothic movements including Darko's one.

Mother:

https://i.imgur.com/yK55mI6.png

Father:

https://i.imgur.com/GkW84zz.png

PCA Plots

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And Global no limit
Attachment 127458

Two Way
Fit: 2.073
1.
Greek (Central Greece)89.4%

Spanish (Canarias)10.6%

Fit: 2.083
2.
Greek (Central Greece)69%

Italian (Umbria)31%

Fit: 2.085
3.
Greek (Central Greece)89.6%

Spanish (Castile and Leon)10.4%

Fit: 2.086
4.
Greek (Central Greece)88.9%

Spanish (Castilla-La Mancha)11.1%

Fit: 2.092
5.
Greek (Central Greece)89.1%

Portuguese10.9%

Fit: 2.095
6.
Greek (Central Greece)90.3%

Spanish (Cantabria)9.7%

Fit: 2.099
7.
Greek (Central Greece)89.8%

Spanish (Galicia)10.2%

Fit: 2.099
8.
Greek (Central Greece)89.5%

Spanish (Andalusia)10.5%

Fit: 2.099
9.
Greek (Central Greece)65.2%

Italian (Molise)34.8%

Fit: 2.104
10.
Greek (Central Greece)91.1%

Spanish (Navarre)8.9%
Three Way
Fit: 1.906
1.
Greek (Central Greece)56.5%

Italian (Umbria)40.2%

Mari3.3%

Fit: 1.923
2.
Greek (Central Greece)51.5%

Italian (Molise)45.2%

Mari3.3%

Fit: 1.926
3.
Greek (Central Greece)59.5%

Italian (Umbria)38.3%

Mansi2.2%

Fit: 1.934
4.
Greek (Central Greece)58.6%

Italian (Umbria)39.4%

Khanty2%

Fit: 1.939
5.
Corsican30.9%

Greek (Central Greece)59.4%

Karachay9.7%

Fit: 1.941
6.
Greek (Central Greece)46.3%

Italian (Molise)49.8%

Udmurt3.9%

Fit: 1.943
7.
Greek (Central Greece)53.5%

Italian (Molise)44.2%

Mansi2.3%

Fit: 1.943
8.
Greek (Central Greece)58.5%

Italian (Umbria)39.8%

Ket1.7%

Fit: 1.947
9.
Balkar9.7%

Corsican31.5%

Greek (Central Greece)58.8%

Fit: 1.951
10.
Catalan (Baleares)22.9%

Greek (Central Greece)66.4%

Meskhetian Turk (Georgia)10.7%
First ten BA:
Two Way
Fit: 2.026
1.
33%
67%
Poltavka Culture
Minoan
Fit: 2.107
2.
39.4%
60.6%
Corded Ware Culture
Minoan
Fit: 2.198
3.
33.1%
66.9%
Yamnaya Culture
Minoan
Fit: 2.232
4.
33.3%
66.7%
Catacomb Culture
Minoan
Fit: 2.256
5.
40.5%
59.5%
Unetice Culture
Copper Age Anatolian (Ilıpınar)
Fit: 2.258
6.
41.6%
58.4%
Fatyanovo Culture
Minoan
Fit: 2.281
7.
41.6%
58.4%
Srubnaya Culture
Minoan
Fit: 2.293
8.
21.9%
78.1%
Poltavka Culture
Mycenaean Greek
Fit: 2.313
9.
42.2%
57.8%
Sintashta Culture
Minoan
Fit: 2.326
10.
22.1%
77.9%
Catacomb Culture
Mycenaean Greek
IA:
Two Way
Fit: 2.043
1.
72%
28%
Thracian
Yaz Culture
Fit: 2.118
2.
77.3%
22.7%
South Illyrian
Mannaean
Fit: 2.139
3.
77.8%
22.2%
South Illyrian
Mannaean (Hasanlu Lovers)
Fit: 2.152
4.
79.7%
20.3%
Paeonian
Mannaean (Hasanlu Lovers)
Fit: 2.157
5.
75%
25%
South Illyrian
Urartian
Fit: 2.186
6.
79.4%
20.6%
Paeonian
Mannaean
Fit: 2.198
7.
75.2%
24.8%
Thracian
Sarmatian (Urals)
Fit: 2.208
8.
65.7%
34.3%
Classical Greek (Himera)
Scythian (Western Steppe)
Fit: 2.224
9.
77.7%
22.3%
Paeonian
Etiuni
Fit: 2.227
10.
77%
23%
South Illyrian
Upper Mesopotamian (Iron Age)
RA:
Two Way
Fit: 2.046
1.
86.5%
13.5%
Pannonian (Migration Period)
Kangju
Fit: 2.068
2.
88.5%
11.5%
Pannonian (Migration Period)
Kushan
Fit: 2.079
3.
88%
12%
Pannonian (Migration Period)
Sarmatian (Western Steppe)
Fit: 2.099
4.
86.5%
13.5%
Pannonian (Migration Period)
Sarmatian (Roxolani)
Fit: 2.103
5.
85.4%
14.6%
Pannonian (Migration Period)
Bactrian (Kushan Period)
Fit: 2.115
6.
89.8%
10.2%
Roman Dalmatian
Kushan
Fit: 2.145
7.
87%
13%
Roman Dalmatian
Bactrian (Kushan Period)
Fit: 2.177
8.
88.4%
11.6%
Roman Dalmatian
Kangju
Fit: 2.198
9.
78.6%
21.4%
Roman Moesian
Bactrian (Kushan Period)
Fit: 2.201
10.
23.5%
76.5%
Bohemian Slav (Early Middle Ages)
Imperial Roman (Latium)
MA:
Two Way
Fit: 1.756
1.
89%
11%
Medieval Albanian
Post-Medieval Swat Valley (Singoor)
Fit: 1.811
2.
84.4%
15.6%
Medieval Albanian
Sogdian (Eastern Steppe)
Fit: 1.862
3.
88.7%
11.3%
Medieval Albanian
Medieval Swat Valley (Mahmud Ghaznavi Mosque)
Fit: 1.878
4.
80.2%
19.8%
Medieval Albanian
Alan (North Caucasus)
Fit: 1.897
5.
91.2%
8.8%
Medieval Albanian
Medieval Swat Valley (Barikot)
Fit: 1.900
6.
88.7%
11.3%
Medieval Albanian
Post-Medieval Tian Shan Nomad
Fit: 1.906
7.
86.4%
13.6%
Medieval Albanian
Medieval Central Asian Nestorian (Tian Shan)
Fit: 2.000
8.
82.4%
17.6%
Medieval Albanian
Medieval North Caucasian (Anapa)
Fit: 2.024
9.
82.3%
17.7%
Medieval Albanian
Ottoman Turk (Kaman-Kalehöyük)
Fit: 2.043
10.
83.9%
16.1%
Medieval Albanian
Ottoman Turk (Çapalıbağ)
Can plot also more or less between the post Medieval Greeks and Medieval Central Italians, Medieval Albanians and Byzantine Dalmatia, Roman Pannonia and Roman Imperial (Between south and North of Italy) or Medieval Albania and postmedieval Greeks
Fit: 2.350
42.
49.3%
50.7%
Byzantine Dalmatian (Tragurium)
Medieval Albanian
Fit: 2.392
50.
45.8%
54.2%
Medieval Central Italian (Tarquinia)
Post-Medieval Greek Mainlander (Roopkund)
Fit: 2.428
38.
48.2%
51.8%
Imperial Roman (Latium)
Roman Pannonian
Fit: 2.271
24.
48.1%
51.9%
Medieval Albanian
Post-Medieval Greek Mainlander (Roopkund)