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R1b1b2a1a2f*
We are the masters of western civilization.
I am a J2
R1a1a, don't know what subclade though. Have been thinking of ordering a Y-dna test from FTDNA. But don't know if it's worth it.
Likeliness is: Z284>L664>M458>Z280>Z93 :icon_cheesygrin:. I could've helped you but you don't have Y-STR results if tested by 23andme.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mazik
Z284 makes up more than 85% of Swedish R1a, imho.
Ha ha haQuote:
Originally Posted by Robert
Celts - the greatest losers of the time. Got a huge kick in the balls from Romans and then ass-raped by Germanics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jizo
My paternal haplogroup is R1b (R-M269). It's heavy in County Mayo. My maternal grandfather's haplogroup is R1b (R-U106). It's shared by the Belgian and Bourbon kings, unfortunately.
There were few sore testicles past Hadrian's Wall. As for the Germanics, their sexual perversion is none of my business.Quote:
Originally Posted by Artek
Poland got it's "ass raped" by Germanics as well in WW2Quote:
Originally Posted by Artek
lol
They got a few gonad punches from the Russians too. They're not much different than the Celts in the luck department.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drunk-n-Stupid
Huge mistake, gent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drunk-n-Stupid
We got ass raped by the Soviet Union,whereas kick in the balls was performed by the Germany. Still we stood better than both the French army and BEF in 1940.
And we have our language in contrary to Celts which are Germanic or Romance today :cool:
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Originally Posted by Artek
You do know Scots could never be fully conquered by any of those? Norse could only manage the Islands. Anglo-Saxons were beaten, Danes were beaten. Romans pushed back. England could never hold onto Scotland, unlike Ireland and Wales. Too troublesome, like all those groups figured out. The UK was created not by invasion.
And language mainly adopted by the lowlands over time, not forced.
Anyway I shouldn't have to defend this. Nor are we some master of civilization. That's too far.
The Scots get my vote for the most resilient British Islanders, count on that. And you've made a very large (mostly lowland) contribution to the fields of science and engineering and other similar fields, nothing to shy away at.Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham
You mean U106?Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert
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Originally Posted by Graham
I don't know, General Monck did a pretty good job of occupying Scotland during the civil war.
It's sort of sad that Celts lost their languages.
Like John Buchan says. "We do not want to be like the Greeks, powerful and prosperous wherever we settle, but with a dead Greece behind us,"Quote:
Originally Posted by Jackson
The past is fantastic within the UK and out of it also. I worry about the future though. We need to get more philosophical in Education again, in Scotland.. Another thing I noticed today in the news. Another foreign company being awarded a contract in England. Whilst the countryside becomes fucked through drilling. A good profit will go to the French. Make it Public or help build up a company in the UK.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25695813
Didn't last long though. A few years. Monarchy was restored in less than decade.Quote:
Originally Posted by Albion
By the way, I meant no offense to Poland. It's a great country full of great people. Sadly, it was situated between a country full of evil commies and a country full of wicked Nazis, and that's not to mention the other threats before them. Ireland had the misfortune of neighboring a monarchy full of diabolical imperialists.Quote:
Originally Posted by Artek
That's true, but the "Saxons" decisively beat the Picts, and the English decisively beat the Scottish in varied battles. I saw a lot of my forebears' Scottish surnames on lists of the dead and wounded. All sides gave as much as they got, except for calamities like Pinkie Cleugh. That was a one-sided disaster!Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham
Ive tested positive for R1b-U106, L48 and Z8
My paternal line and my only none Dutch line is Z8. Which is supposedly a pretty good indicator of West Germanic invaders, be them Saxons/Jutes/Frisians/Angles and possibly Belgae. Theres always a possible Viking or Norman connection. Interesting that the most likely point of origin is or near by where the rest of my family lives or hails from.
evil white people
The countryside won't be fucked. Building wind turbines all over the place has already done that. A few wells dotted around isn't nearly on the same scale.Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham
I'm also in the L48 club, Hevo is the other member. We're not so common. :D L48 is mostly found among Germanics and is derived from U106 which reaches its peak in the Low countries, Western Germany and England and is basically Germanic itself and is thought to originate in Lower Saxony.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonofthedutch
It would be probably either a Saxon/Frisii/Angle or a Jute.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonofthedutch
Yeah a lot of the incomers in East Anglia and Kent seem to have been Frisians, and probably some in other areas too i guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hevo
L48 for the win boys!!
Hevo, or Albion, whats your guys terminal SNP? Get on that private message bro's!
I expected I1, considering my north german ancestry. The only thing that surprised me was the subclade assignement. I anticipated a typical northern continental branch but I turned out as a scandinavian (Ultra Norse) I1. Either it's the Vikings fault or some swedish soldiers had their "fun" in the 30yrs war.
R1b1b2a1, rare and strange.
You mean R1b-L23? Cause using ISOGG and YCC nomenclature is misleading, they constantly change itQuote:
Originally Posted by Bononia
Yes that one!It is quite common I see.Quote:
Originally Posted by Artek
I ordered a Y-dna test from ftdna a couple of hours ago :) about how long time can I expect to wait for the analysis when it hits the lab again?Quote:
Originally Posted by Artek
It took me almost 3 months with ordering,receiving, sending kit back and waiting for the results (37 markers). I think they are slightly faster now. But if you can afford it, their y-dna tests are the best, only YFULL from FGC is more accurate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mazik
Here's a fresh regional R1a chart from Sweden (with 67 markers):Quote:
Originally Posted by Artek
http://sjolunds.se/dna-genealogi/wp-...2014-01-22.png
According to that one, it's most likely that I will be Z284>Z287/Z288 or Z284>L448 because that's what the north Swedes on that chart have been tested as. But my Y-line location is even further north than them, so who knows.
Here's my Genographic results I just got back today.
Paternal Line: M42 > M168 > M89 > P128 > M45 > M207 > P231 > M343 > L278 > P310 > L21
Maternal Line: L3 > N > R > U > U2 > U2E > U2E1'2'3
MEDITERRANEAN
43%
NORTHERN EUROPEAN
39%
SOUTHWEST ASIAN
15%
NEANDERTHAL
1.9%
DENISOVAN
1.9%
YOUR FIRST REFERENCE POPULATION: BRITISH (UNITED KINGDOM)
YOUR SECOND REFERENCE POPULATION: GREEK
I find is curious there is no French reference population...
And myFTDNA gives:
Y-DNA R1b1a2a1a1b4 Shorthand R-L21
mtDNA U2e1b
I'm French Canadian, and I can track both Paternal and Maternal to France during the first colonization of Nouvelle France in the 1650's.
Paternal Michel Dupuis, b. 1634 and d. 1700
Maternal Marie Cholet, b.1602 and d. 1642
I can track my paternal line in France to Gen. Raphael de Podio, Commander of the Roman Cavalry & Grand Chamberlain of the Roman Republic, Governor of Provinces of Lanquedoc & Dauphiny of Southeastern France (b. bef. 1033), but there isn't any information beyond him that I've found so far but in my lineage is a lot of really interesting history including the Acadians, the Huguenots, Knights Templars, Great Priestly Architects, Dukes, and all sorts of Nobility and Chivalry. L-21 being linked to the Davidic house of Judah is giving me the want to connect the missing links in my family tree.
I'm really enjoying the help DNA tracking is giving the family tree research.
France I think has a ban against DNA testing. It's a illegal. Lack of identity culture. I'm guessing you're mainly Northern French.
Thanks for sharing. It's probably because it's assuming you are a mixture, a British person with some degree of Greek ancestry would be probably close to a French person genetically.Quote:
Originally Posted by FunkyWanderer
Also i'm not sure about the whole tribes of Israel thing, seems hogwash. R1b-L21 is most common in the British Isles and northern France.
The Stewart Kings were R1b-L21. That line goes back to Brittany.
So many E1B1Bs here. :D
Cool, I didn't know that. The Stewart family is found among my ancestors.Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham