Just H? Isn't that rare?Quote:
Originally Posted by All-In
And btw your Sig, OK I stfu'd kurd women :loveheart:
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Just H? Isn't that rare?Quote:
Originally Posted by All-In
And btw your Sig, OK I stfu'd kurd women :loveheart:
not really . have seen quite a few people having itQuote:
Originally Posted by PentaDrägon
lolQuote:
Originally Posted by PentaDrägon
Mmm!Quote:
Originally Posted by All-In
BTW I've hear Kurds have the highest V13 in the middle East :D cool man
No bilyetQuote:
Originally Posted by Sacrificed Ram
http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads...A-haplogroup-L
http://www.eupedia.com/images/content/mtDNA-L-map.png
H1a3, very rare
L3d, first humans to arrive to Eurasia, basically ancestral to all of your mtdnas :laugh:
It can be more recent in origin, like Swahili Coast. And L3d is sibling of M and N, not ancestor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Varustana
Meh, it seems like I need to do even further tests as it seems like HVR1 gives me a basic view on it as all it really shows is that I am T1 and that I could be T1a1. I am still waiting for the T1 admin to respond to my email. I found out that another Albanian from the same region as my great grandmother was T1 but he tested at 23andme so I don't know his specific T1 clade although I believe that we are T1a1l based on that other guy from my maternal region that was T1a1l
umm so these mutations are only HRV1?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kelmendasi
mtDNA:16126 mt 16126 16126 C+
mtDNA:16163 mt 16163 16163 G+
mtDNA:16186 mt 16186 16186 T+
mtDNA:16189 mt 16189 16189 C+
mtDNA:16294 mt 16294 16294 T+
mtDNA:16519 mt 16519 16519 C+
then yes pretty basic
, when will you ge hvr2?
I did order HVR2 the same time as HVR1 and Alpha-Beta(Ydna/Y37 equivalent) but only HVR1 has come back. I do think that these are only HVR1 as they are basic and HVR2 results look different also HVR2 could confirm which sub-clade of T1Quote:
Originally Posted by PentaDrägon
Although my HVR1 mutations do confirm that I am T1a but I will need to see the HVR2 result to see which sub-clade of T1a although as I have said before I reckon that I am T1a1/T1a1l
Oh, cool, then when HRV2 comes you will know if you are T1a1 or another branch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kelmendasi
HVR1 is very basic as you saw, HVR2 will give you a better definition, dont forget to post it here :D
how much did you pay for the shipping? Im thinking of doing it, its cheaper, but the shipping maybe screw the "cheap" part, idk
HVR1 and HVR2 cost $50 all together but you will have to pay shipping as you need to exceed the $100 to get free shipping, or you can do MT complete which is $179 and has free shipping. I personally didnt pay for shipping as I paid more than $100 as I did HVR1, HVR2 and Alpha-BetaQuote:
Originally Posted by PentaDrägon
whats interesting is that T1 in Albania so far seems to be confined in my mothers maternal and paternal region of Dibra e vogel. Every Albo from the villages near my great grandmothers that has tested is T1 with one testing at 23andme which doesn't give a specific clade although I am autosomaly related to this guy as well, the other guy is T1a1l and he has tested via Ftnda.
No it is not, it is the mother of M and NQuote:
Originally Posted by Sacrificed Ram
http://i.imgur.com/VAD5KJ9.png
You are L3d, M is the same than L3m and N is is the same than L3n, all children of L3 only.Quote:
Originally Posted by Varustana
So youre afrocentrist ehQuote:
Originally Posted by Sacrificed Ram
It doesn't matter, I still have the L3 with the "d" mutation, in the end it is still ancestral to all Eurasian mtdna haplogroups.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sacrificed Ram
No, the most old diverged mtDNA is found in Australia.Quote:
Originally Posted by PentaDrägon
http://www.pnas.org/content/98/2/537.full.pdf
My HVR2 results have come and I think it confirms that I am T1a1l as I have the mutations associated with it, 309.1 and 315.1
10204 mtDNA:195 mt 195 195 C+
10204 mtDNA:263 mt 263 263 G+
10204 mtDNA:309.1 mt 309 310 C+
10204 mtDNA:309.2 mt 309 311 C+
10204 mtDNA:315.1 mt 315 316 C+
10204 mtDNA:73 mt 73 73
If not T1a1l it confirms that I am t1a1
Not sure why the admin for T1 hasn't replied to any of my e-mails
F1a3 Mongolian Mtdna.
Fucking shit Im not a Turk, I dont have a Turkic haplogroup.:(
Congrats! You are indeed very likely to be T1a1l (I can confirm you as T1a1 tho, the lt looks ambiguous to me, but if you said some people on the surrounding villages are.. so.. the odds are in your favor)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kelmendasi
Additional Variants
T1a1l:309.1C, 315.1C
T1a1:309.1C, 315.1C, 8921
^as you can see both can have this extra mutation
http://haplogroup.org/mtdna/rsrs/l12...1a/t1a1/t1a1l/
http://haplogroup.org/mtdna/rsrs/l12...t/t1/t1a/t1a1/
Thanks. Yh the mutations are found in both as T1a1l is descended from T1a1, thing is that HVR2 doesn't go into much depth as it doesn't show me the mutation which can confirm my sub-clade. But I am T1a1 as you said and the fact that people from nearby villages are T1a1l supports the fact that I could be T1a1lQuote:
Originally Posted by PentaDrägon
It would of been cool if there was a Mtdna predictor based off from the Alleles, not sure why there isn't one lol
Maybe I could just be T1a1?
Why not? Turkic people mixed heavily with Mongolian people in ancient times, it doesn't make your mtdna "non-Turkic" :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Charles Bronson
So you're T1?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kelmendasi
how did you find out your mtdna and whats your ydna ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kelmendasi
..........
I tested HVR2 and HVR1 and they showed that I am T1a1 and perhaps T1a1l which is a clade of T1a1. My Ydna result from Yseq hasn't come yetQuote:
Originally Posted by Tee
Yh, at first I though that I was T2 but then I found out that I am T1a1Quote:
Originally Posted by Tee
oops wrong one, only tested Y
My mtdna is H.
did the admins reply to your mail?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kelmendasi
Nah lol. But I think it's like 90% certain that I am T1a1l and 100% certain that I am T1a1Quote:
Originally Posted by mongrel
you'll never know for sure until you test the full sequence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kelmendasi
Yh, full sequence will confirm the clade but I am sure that HVR1 and HVR2 confirmed that I am T1a1, people that are from my maternal area and have tested are all T1 although only one did a more advanced test and turned out to be T1a1lQuote:
Originally Posted by mongrel
interesting. neolithicness intensifiesQuote:
Originally Posted by Kelmendasi