Moldovan/Romanian GEDmatch Resuts

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Originally Posted by Aspirin

What is your explanation of this? Other components like West Med, East Med and West Asian from other side are very low.

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Explanation is very simple. Calculator is kind of trash and it has trouble splitting West, East Med, West Asian and Red Sea components in people who are not a full mix of one component. I also think that West Med and North Atlantic flow into each other occasionally, as do traces of Baltic and Siberian. And Oceanian is obviously a disaster.

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Originally Posted by Leto

By the way, this score looks a bit high-ish to me as well:

3 West_Med 19.64

Almost 20% WM in Moldova is not exactly usual, is it? :icon_ask:

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You should look at it together with East Med, West Asian and Red Sea. The sum of them is lower than in Zmey Gorynych.
But the record for just West Med is 21.69% in the academic sample from Stefan Voda, MOL-065.

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Originally Posted by Ion Basescul

Explanation is very simple. Calculator is kind of trash and it has trouble splitting West, East Med, West Asian and Red Sea components in people who are not a full mix of one component. I also think that West Med and North Atlantic flow into each other occasionally, as do traces of Baltic and Siberian. And Oceanian is obviously a disaster.

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Baltic has nothing to do with Siberian. Here you can see the Fst divergencies between the components
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?pli=1#gid=1

Baltic - Siberian - 113

For comparison:
East_Asian - Siberian - 56
Red_Sea - East_Med - 39

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Originally Posted by Aspirin

Give me kit numbers of Ionascu and Andronic. Do you know more information about them?

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Originally Posted by Aspirin

Give me kit numbers of Ionascu and Andronic. Do you know more information about them?

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Not much really, as they didn't have a family tree to check their full mix, but I traced them via email.

Ionashku was from the States, but was born in Cernauti; DNA relative of Slanina.
Andronic is from Straseni, but lives in Chisinau; DNA relative of Nanu and Tsurkan Lazareva.

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Originally Posted by Leto

Baltic has nothing to do with Siberian. Here you can see the Fst divergencies between the components
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?pli=1#gid=1

Baltic - Siberian - 113

For comparison:
East_Asian - Siberian - 56
Red_Sea - East_Med - 39

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I can understand that, but it's also hard to believe their authenticity with such examples:

https://i.imgur.com/pzDWlIK.png

The best example is in West_Greenlander because it lacks other West Eurasian components.

It also looks like someone messed up those Fst values, because their range is supposed to be from 0 to 1. If you look at two very distinct components like East and West Asian, who have a Fixation index of only 0.11, it becomes obvious that something is wrong with them. If East and West Asian divergence is 0.11, then East Asian and Siberian for example should be at most 0.011.

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Originally Posted by Ion Basescul

I can understand that, but it's also hard to believe their authenticity with such examples:

https://i.imgur.com/pzDWlIK.png

The best example is in West_Greenlander because it lacks other West Eurasian components.

It also looks like someone messed up those Fst values, because their range is supposed to be from 0 to 1. If you look at two very distinct components like East and West Asian, who have a Fixation index of only 0.11, it becomes obvious that something is wrong with them. If East and West Asian divergence is 0.11, then East Asian and Siberian for example should be at most 0.011.

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I still believe the Baltic is zero Mongoloid. Most likely the Greenlanders aren't just full Mongs.

I use Dodecad more often than K13 anyway. K13 gave me and my mother 2+ fucking Red_Sea and Amerindian and we both have none of that kind of ancestry.

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Originally Posted by Leto

I still believe the Baltic is zero Mongoloid. Most likely the Greenlanders aren't just full Mongs.

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And whom are they mixed with then, Russian Canadians? If it were Danes or other Scandinavians, then they would have had more North Atlantic than Baltic, but the difference between the two is 6x.
The Fst values are an obvious forgery for every value that's greater than 1 and results such as these are not believable.

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Originally Posted by Ion Basescul

And whom are they mixed with then, Russian Canadians? If it were Danes or other Scandinavians, then they would have had more North Atlantic than Baltic, but the difference between the two is 6x.
The Fst values are an obvious forgery for every value that's greater than 1 and results such as these are not believable.

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I don't know. Don't really care about that reference. They aren't even Siberians. Khakas and Shors have Caucasoid/Indo-Euro ancestry (they're very high in R1a too).

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Originally Posted by Leto

I still believe the Baltic is zero Mongoloid. Most likely the Greenlanders aren't just full Mongs.

I use Dodecad more often than K13 anyway. K13 gave me and my mother 2+ fucking Red_Sea and Amerindian and we both have none of that kind of ancestry.

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Dodecad is even more simplistic. From GEDmatch, only K36 is objective IMO, but the best for now is Global 25 obviously.