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I still don't understand how these calculators works, how is possible Ionashku to be more Southern than Andronic? He don't even have Greek_Thessaly in top 20 single population sharing. I know he have high Red Sea and low West Med, is possible that these two components to change so much the results? Vaniusha, explain please.
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I'll take a look at their K15.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
Meanwhile, a Russophone from the town of Ribnita, Transnistria, but with a Romanian/Moldovan surname.
Shtyrbul, Ribnita
# Population Percent 1 Baltic 36.87 2 North_Atlantic 26.6 3 West_Med 14.39 4 East_Med 9.35 5 West_Asian 5.74 6 Red_Sea 2.31 7 Siberian 1.58 8 Oceanian 1.22 9 South_Asian 0.72 10 East_Asian 0.6 11 Northeast_African 0.5 12 Sub-Saharan 0.09 13 Amerindian 0.04
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance 1 Croatian 2.95 2 Moldavian 5.25 3 Ukrainian_Lviv 6.33 4 South_Polish 7.45 5 Hungarian 7.5 6 Ukrainian 7.57 7 Polish 10.52 8 Serbian 10.68 9 East_German 10.83 10 Southwest_Russian 11.31 11 Austrian 11.44 12 Ukrainian_Belgorod 11.97 13 Russian_Smolensk 12.6 14 Estonian_Polish 12.94 15 Belorussian 13.61 16 Romanian 14.51 17 Kargopol_Russian 15.13 18 Southwest_Finnish 16.17 19 Bulgarian 16.51 20 Erzya 17.28
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance 1 82.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 17.2% Tuscan @ 2.17 2 81.7% Ukrainian + 18.3% West_Sicilian @ 2.24 3 84.5% Ukrainian_Lviv + 15.5% West_Sicilian @ 2.24 4 79.8% Ukrainian + 20.2% Tuscan @ 2.27 5 69.2% Estonian_Polish + 30.8% Tuscan @ 2.27 6 87.5% Ukrainian_Lviv + 12.5% Italian_Jewish @ 2.37 7 87.5% Ukrainian_Lviv + 12.5% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.39 8 69.8% Russian_Smolensk + 30.2% Tuscan @ 2.42 9 70.4% Southwest_Russian + 29.6% North_Italian @ 2.43 10 61.5% Lithuanian + 38.5% Tuscan @ 2.45 11 64.1% Ukrainian_Lviv + 35.9% Serbian @ 2.51 12 85.2% Ukrainian + 14.8% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.53 13 85.2% Ukrainian + 14.8% Italian_Jewish @ 2.55 14 92.6% Croatian + 7.4% East_Finnish @ 2.55 15 81.9% Ukrainian_Lviv + 18.1% North_Italian @ 2.57 16 59.3% Ukrainian + 40.7% Serbian @ 2.57 17 85.3% Ukrainian + 14.7% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.58 18 85.5% Ukrainian_Lviv + 14.5% Ashkenazi @ 2.59 19 95.9% Croatian + 4.1% Mari @ 2.62 20 81.2% Ukrainian_Lviv + 18.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.62
Demographics of Ribnita town in 2004
Народ кол-во,
чел.<small style="font-size: 11.9px;">%
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указав-
ших</small>Украинцы 24898 46,41 % 50,10 % Русские 11738 21,88 % 23,62 % Молдаване 11235 20,94 % 22,61 % Поляки 500 0,93 % 1,01 % Белорусы 328 0,61 % 0,66 % Болгары 220 0,41 % 0,44 % Евреи 166 0,31 % 0,33 % Немцы 106 0,20 % 0,21 % Гагаузы 96 0,18 % 0,19 % другие 571 1,06 % 1,15 % указали 49693 92,63 % 100,00 % не указали 3955 7,37 % всего 53648 100,00 %
If you look at the K15 PCA, you will see that these are the components that pull up (from left to right): Atlantic, North Sea, Baltic, Eastern (Euro), Amerindian, Siberian.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
West Med pulls slightly down and to the West. The combination of Atlantic and West Med is the cause for Andronic pulling noticeably West.
East Med and Red Sea pull strongly down and slightly to the East. In this model they seem to be pretty close to one another. West Asian pulls stronger to the East, but not as much down as the former components.
South Asian pulls to the Southeast the strongest of all.
I assume Southeast Asian and Oceanian also pull down, even though they are not drawn on the PCA.
So the sum of components that pull up for Ionashku is 67.65 and 67.02 for Andronic.
For East Med and West Asian they are identical.
It might seem that every percentage in minor components like East Med, Red Sea and South Asian can move the position around significantly. South Asian will have the biggest influence.
Red_Sea 4.83 Pct South_Asian 1.08 Pct Southeast_Asian 1.32 Pct Total: 7.86
Oceanian 0.63 Pc
Red_Sea 3.05 Pct South_Asian 0.27 Pct Southeast_Asian - Total: 3.32
Oceanian -
How much East_Med and Red_Sea does he score on Eu K15?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
North_Sea 20.79 Pct Atlantic 13.37 Pct Baltic 23.51 Pct Eastern_Euro 15.51 Pct West_Med 10.72 Pct West_Asian 5.55 Pct East_Med 5.74 Pct Red_Sea 1.71 Pct South_Asian 0.55 Pct Southeast_Asian 0.30 Pct Siberian 0.63 Pct Amerindian - Oceanian 1.05 Pct Northeast_African 0.57 Pct Sub-Saharan -
Target: yo_scaled
Distance: 1.5073% / 0.01507251
53.0 Ukrainian
38.8 Moldovan
8.2 Tatar_Kazan
Distance to: yo_scaled
0.02821185 Ukrainian:UCH945_ukrainian_Tsherk
0.02962201 Moldovan_o:Moldovan_V46055
0.03197166 Ukrainian:Ukrainian12
0.03335821 Moldovan_o:Moldovan_V13693
0.03387962 Moldovan:7481C01
0.03458364 Moldovan:7471C02
0.03497852 Moldovan:7472C02
0.03514737 Ukrainian:Ukrainian1
0.03526526 Ukrainian:Ukrainian22
0.03538178 Moldovan:8492C01
0.03628731 Ukrainian:UKR-2021
0.03694796 Moldovan:7522C01
0.03701894 Ukrainian:ULV293_ukrainian_Lviv
0.03783166 Ukrainian:UKR-1951
0.03812441 Ukrainian:Ukrainian3
0.03848942 Ukrainian:Ukrainian17
0.03872952 Ukrainian:UKR-1903
0.03943326 Ukrainian:UKR-1291
0.03962526 Ukrainian:Ukrainian20
0.03969376 Ukrainian:UKR-1283
0.04047538 Ukrainian:Ukrainian18
0.04162903 Ukrainian:UKR-1377
0.04178886 Moldovan:7581C02
0.04223993 Ukrainian:UKR-1399
0.04292968 Ukrainian:UKR-1292
I am the most northern full Moldovan ever
Those two outliers are pure Ukrainians and 8492C01 is mixed. But the others from this list might be unmixed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daos777
Honciuc, Botosani (Ukrainian surname)
# Population Percent 1 Baltic 30.94 2 North_Atlantic 25.88 3 West_Med 16.18 4 East_Med 13.64 5 West_Asian 8.74 6 Red_Sea 1.2 7 Siberian 1.15 8 Oceanian 0.89 9 Amerindian 0.88 10 East_Asian 0.51
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance 1 Serbian 4.21 2 Moldavian 4.25 3 Croatian 6.32 4 Hungarian 7.31 5 Romanian 7.48 6 Bulgarian 9.59 7 Austrian 11.23 8 East_German 12.23 9 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.8 10 South_Polish 13.48 11 Ukrainian 13.99 12 Polish 17.06 13 Southwest_Russian 17.44 14 West_German 17.49 15 Ukrainian_Belgorod 17.79 16 Greek_Thessaly 18.31 17 South_Dutch 18.98 18 Russian_Smolensk 19.22 19 French 19.61 20 Estonian_Polish 19.68
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance 1 65.5% Romanian + 34.5% Ukrainian @ 1.56 2 54.4% Croatian + 45.6% Romanian @ 1.58 3 60.8% Croatian + 39.2% Bulgarian @ 1.68 4 63.7% Ukrainian + 36.3% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.72 5 50.3% Serbian + 49.7% Moldavian @ 1.77 6 64.9% Ukrainian + 35.1% West_Sicilian @ 1.77 7 83% Croatian + 17% South_Italian @ 1.81 8 63.6% Romanian + 36.4% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 1.82 9 81% Croatian + 19% West_Sicilian @ 1.83 10 75.1% Croatian + 24.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.84 11 70.1% Romanian + 29.9% Polish @ 1.87 12 80.7% Croatian + 19.3% Central_Greek @ 1.88 13 80.1% Croatian + 19.9% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.89 14 85.2% Croatian + 14.8% Italian_Jewish @ 1.92 15 76.8% Romanian + 23.2% Estonian @ 1.92 16 58.7% Bulgarian + 41.3% South_Polish @ 1.94 17 64.9% Romanian + 35.1% South_Polish @ 1.98 18 71.8% Bulgarian + 28.2% Estonian @ 2 19 57.7% South_Polish + 42.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.02 20 61.8% Serbian + 38.2% Croatian @ 2.03
I will create a separate thread when the results will be ready, but here is the progress for my brother's MyHeritage results.
As I know the yDNA and mtDNA from me, there was no point in taking 23andme for him, as MyHeritage is stronger in the raw autosomal DNA department.
It took 2 weeks for my mom's kit and 1.5 weeks for my dad's kit to go from "received" to "results are available" back in January this year.
https://i.imgur.com/RKP2uFj.png
We'll see who gets his results first - Chris or your brother.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul