Eurogenes K13

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Originally Posted by Aren

Lul what. Jutes are North Germanic, with the exception of a tiny Frisian community in the far south. And the Danish ethnogenisis happend in the Danish islands, most notably Själland and expanded east to include Skåne, Halland and Blekinge. Both Swedish and Danish evolved from Old East Norse in contrast with Norwegian and Icelandic which evolved from Old West Norse. Fact is all Germanics during the Iron Age/Roman era were probably genetically the same. The small southern shift of Northern Germans/Dutch probably happend with mixing of Celts(Hallstatt culture) and later on with fellow southern Germans/Dutch.

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I was talking about the ancient Jutish people (who are extinct now), not modern day Jutes who are ethnic Danes.

In BC times, the islands were said to be inhabited by the Heruli whereas Scania was inhabited by the Danes.

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Originally Posted by Mingle

I was talking about the ancient Jutish people (who are extinct now), not modern day Jutes who are ethnic Danes.

In BC times, the islands were said to be inhabited by the Heruli whereas Scania was inhabited by the Danes.

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This is from wiki regarding their language

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The Germanic dialect which the Jutes spoke is unknown; there is currently no information or credible source to be found on their language. However, it is very likely Jutes had used a traditional Germanic form of the Runic alphabet. Most scholars agree that they spoke either a group of Proto-Norse languages or an Ingvaeonic language, but which dialect of Germanic language was spoken is pure speculation and remains a matter of dispute.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jutes

The fact that they assimilated so easily into the Danish sphere makes it more likely they spoke Proto-Norse.

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Originally Posted by Aren

This is from wiki regarding their language

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jutes

The fact that they assimilated so easily into the Danish sphere makes it more likely they spoke Proto-Norse.

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Okay, well I didn't say they were West Germanic for sure but just possibly West Germanic. Either way, they were a different ethnicity from Danes.

I agree they were probably Norse, but them assimilating easily into Danes doesn't mean much. They also assimilated into the English. And back then, I don't think West Germanic and Norse would have been that different.

This is a pure Arabian:

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 42.7
2 Red_Sea 35.59
3 West_Asian 8.92
4 West_Med 6.13
5 Northeast_African 4.5
6 South_Asian 1.41
7 Oceanian 0.74
8 East_Asian 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Saudi 1.9
2 Yemenite_Jewish 10.97
3 Bedouin 15.92
4 Egyptian 20.06
5 Palestinian 20.27
6 Jordanian 22.13
7 Samaritan 24.19
8 Syrian 24.88
9 Lebanese_Christian 26.1
10 Lebanese_Muslim 27.81
11 Libyan_Jewish 28.06
12 Lebanese_Druze 28.27
13 Tunisian_Jewish 28.53
14 Kurdish_Jewish 30.56
15 Iranian_Jewish 30.86
16 Cyprian 31.14
17 Tunisian 31.53
18 Sephardic_Jewish 31.94
19 Algerian 32.36
20 Algerian_Jewish 32.91

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Originally Posted by Leto

This is a pure Arabian:

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 42.7
2 Red_Sea 35.59
3 West_Asian 8.92
4 West_Med 6.13
5 Northeast_African 4.5
6 South_Asian 1.41
7 Oceanian 0.74
8 East_Asian 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Saudi 1.9
2 Yemenite_Jewish 10.97
3 Bedouin 15.92
4 Egyptian 20.06
5 Palestinian 20.27
6 Jordanian 22.13
7 Samaritan 24.19
8 Syrian 24.88
9 Lebanese_Christian 26.1
10 Lebanese_Muslim 27.81
11 Libyan_Jewish 28.06
12 Lebanese_Druze 28.27
13 Tunisian_Jewish 28.53
14 Kurdish_Jewish 30.56
15 Iranian_Jewish 30.86
16 Cyprian 31.14
17 Tunisian 31.53
18 Sephardic_Jewish 31.94
19 Algerian 32.36
20 Algerian_Jewish 32.91

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Bedouins are quite distant to Saudis. I wonder what the reason for that is.

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Originally Posted by Mingle

Bedouins are quite distant to Saudis. I wonder what the reason for that is.

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Don't know. What I do know is that the unmixed Levantine people are very different from the Arabians

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 44.58
2 West_Asian 18.87
3 West_Med 15.76
4 Red_Sea 13.73
5 North_Atlantic 3.49
6 Northeast_African 2.37
7 South_Asian 0.9
8 Oceanian 0.3

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Samaritan 1.94
2 Lebanese_Christian 3.97
3 Palestinian 6.4
4 Lebanese_Muslim 6.81
5 Syrian 7.35
6 Lebanese_Druze 7.88
7 Jordanian 7.93
8 Cyprian 8.2
9 Tunisian_Jewish 11.29
10 Libyan_Jewish 11.72
11 Bedouin 12.24
12 Kurdish_Jewish 12.41
13 Iranian_Jewish 13.12
14 Sephardic_Jewish 14.8
15 Assyrian 14.91
16 Algerian_Jewish 15.69
17 Italian_Jewish 15.99
18 Egyptian 17.28
19 Georgian_Jewish 18.39
20 Ashkenazi 19.39

I think this one is not an actual Samaritan, but rather a Levantine Christian. Not sure though.

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Originally Posted by Leto

Half-Turkish, half-Finnish. His Turkish father was born in the Aydın Province (Southwestern Turkey), his grandfather was born in Crete. Mother is from Tampere, Southern Finland.
Y-DNA: I2a
mtDNA: H

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 29.76
2 North_Atlantic 23.95
3 East_Med 14.74
4 West_Asian 11.79
5 West_Med 8.90
6 Siberian 3.76
7 Red_Sea 3.24
8 Amerindian 1.67
9 South_Asian 1.16


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Serbian @ 9.159951
2 Moldavian @ 9.179601
3 Romanian @ 10.845723
4 Croatian @ 11.898977
5 Hungarian @ 11.941941
6 Bulgarian @ 12.757720
7 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 16.955639
8 Austrian @ 17.027153
9 South_Polish @ 17.855743
10 Tatar @ 18.181215
11 East_German @ 18.391869
12 Ukrainian @ 18.584007
13 Southwest_Russian @ 20.407122
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 20.522390
15 Greek_Thessaly @ 21.668915
16 Polish @ 21.686329
17 Russian_Smolensk @ 23.138365
18 West_German @ 23.200397
19 Estonian_Polish @ 23.836845
20 Kargopol_Russian @ 24.170134

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This is actually a very interesting result.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Erzya +50% Italian_Abruzzo @ 5.168154


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Finnish +25% Kurdish_Jewish +25% Romanian @ 1.547066


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Finnish + Finnish + Kurdish_Jewish + Romanian @ 1.547066
2 Assyrian + Finnish + Finnish + Romanian @ 1.655256
3 Assyrian + East_Finnish + Romanian + Southwest_Finnish @ 1.683870
4 Finnish + Finnish + Iranian_Jewish + Romanian @ 1.743096
5 East_Finnish + Kurdish_Jewish + Romanian + Southwest_Finnish @ 1.768692
6 East_Finnish + Kurdish_Jewish + Serbian + Southwest_Finnish @ 1.830812
7 East_Finnish + Iranian_Jewish + Romanian + Southwest_Finnish @ 1.857141
8 Finnish + Finnish + Kurdish_Jewish + Serbian @ 1.896885
9 Assyrian + Finnish + Romanian + Southwest_Finnish @ 1.904034
10 Erzya + Hungarian + Kurdish_Jewish + North_Swedish @ 1.908889
11 Assyrian + East_Finnish + Serbian + Southwest_Finnish @ 1.936288
12 Lebanese_Druze + Lithuanian + North_German + Tatar @ 1.972561
13 Lebanese_Christian + Lithuanian + North_German + Tatar @ 1.995247
14 Finnish + Kurdish_Jewish + Romanian + Southwest_Finnish @ 2.002987
15 East_Finnish + Georgian_Jewish + Romanian + Southwest_Finnish @ 2.021206
16 Lebanese_Druze + Swedish + Tatar + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.040864
17 Erzya + Finnish + Kurdish_Jewish + West_German @ 2.052058
18 Finnish + Iranian_Jewish + Romanian + Southwest_Finnish @ 2.054478
19 East_Finnish + Iranian_Jewish + Serbian + Southwest_Finnish @ 2.078556
20 Assyrian + Bulgarian + Finnish + Finnish @ 2.084526

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Originally Posted by Konpirike

Population
North European 11.55%
West African -
Mediterranean 17.85%
Northeast African 1.14%
North Eurasian 1.28%
South Asian 4.58%
Southwest Asian 7.99%
Pygmy -
Caucasus 31.43%
East Siberian 1.35%
East Asian 0.46%
Amerindian 0.10%
West Central Asian 22.27%

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this is not k13

has the calculator changed since then or something ?

Population
North_Atlantic 24.45
Baltic 35.38
West_Med 15.36
West_Asian 8.24
East_Med 11.97
Red_Sea 2.10
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 1.61
Amerindian 0.89
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

North_Atlantic 23.43
Baltic 6.52
West_Med 18.53
West_Asian 5.98
East_Med 15.97
Red_Sea 2.57
South_Asian 2.15
East_Asian 1.00
Siberian -
Amerindian 8.58
Oceanian 0.30
Northeast_African 0.67
Sub-Saharan 14.31

That moment you don't know how to deal with this 2.15 South Asian and 1.00 East Asian thinking you have some Central Asian great great grandfather but has 0 on Siberian. =/