El sudoeste ibérico es defcon, ni mas ni menos.Quote:
Originally Posted by HelloGuys
El señor mayorQuote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
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El sudoeste ibérico es defcon, ni mas ni menos.Quote:
Originally Posted by HelloGuys
El señor mayorQuote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
Mirad las lindezas que ponen en el video de youtube que subí con mis resultados de myheritage
-I notice that only spanish guys that have Irish dna are posting their results. When you see faces in Spain, they don’t look like Irish or Scottish for 1 euro. There is a bias on YouTube and it is part of a right wing propaganda to avoid showing Arab dna in spanish people. Maybe there is some spanish with significant Arab dna but they don’t want to disclose it on YouTube. Come on Irish !!!
-Spanish people are not white!
Supuestamente es un argelino franchute, lo que hay que leer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spaniard 2.0
Epa, que yo soy R-L21 y tambien soy negrito. Por favor, mas respeto a los afro-españoles como Defcon, Mr. Gixajo (not Jr., Jr. is Polack and Basque) y yo. Gracias.
Y eso lo ponen en un video en el cual no hay ningún tipo de provocación, luego dirán que en TA se meten con España porque provocamos...Quote:
Originally Posted by Defcon2
El señor mayor es precisamente el que nos ha dado a todos el R1a.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spaniard 2.0
Acertaste.Quote:
Originally Posted by Defcon2
Pues eso, igual que preguntar si tienes rasgos negroides por tener un haplotipo supuestamente africano.
Es dios?
Yo iba de blanco en mi comunión :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
Fue una respuesta a Gota, nada que ver con mi haplogrupo.
No, pero está con él desde hace 15 años.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spaniard 2.0
Ahhh jajaja ya veo; sabía que era un chiste o broma; pero no entendía el significado lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Defcon2
vayaQuote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
O "shifteo" é mais individual que regional, diria eu.Quote:
Originally Posted by Defcon2
El 90% de esos comentarios los ponen sudamericanos mestizos o amerindios o mulatos, o incluso mexicanos castizos. Hay muchos viviendo en Europa también, se hacen pasar por ""Europeos"" en foros y vídeos y ya se creen q con esto nos afectan (haciendo creer q quien escribe eso es un verdadero irlandés, q a un irlandés se la suda este tema del porcentaje de moro y no lo dice con tanta inquina). Y también mucho moro, amerindio, en España se dedica a atacarnos con lo ÚNICO que pueden atacarnos: "que sois moros, 70.000 años estuvieron los moros en cada cm de la Península Ibérica". Es la única forma de atacarnos. Utilizan a ese 5-6% de españoles "morunos" (mucho más blancos q los moros pero con aspecto algo semita) y los ponen como representación.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spaniard 2.0
Y la estupidez esa de que "a lo mejor hay españoles con significant Arab dna pero q no lo ponen en YouTube". Eso lo dice un retrasado, pues si alguien se mezcló hace 1000 años (cosa rara salvo concubinas, violaciones, y poco más) su % de "arab" sería 1-2% máximo. No hay españoles con significant arab dna, y más cuando se demuestre de una puñetera vez que el Northafrican es Ibero o componente prehistórico blanco (caucasoide) a ambas orillas del Mediterráneo.
Señores, yo tengo al patente de la clasificacion taxonomica de Negroid-Mediterranean, vulgarmente conocido como Negro-Med para los holgazanes como vosotros. Usen sabiamente este termino para definir taxonomicamente a alguien, o trolear sin ningun sentido solo para diversion propia, pero que sepan que esto lo ha inventado "El negrito Alex".
Deberías hacer un thread serio jaja, seguro que alguien empieza a usarloQuote:
Originally Posted by Rocinante
Negroid-Mediterranean© by Rocinante. All rights reserved-2020Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocinante
A ver, yo tenia pensadisimo, de hecho, a un golpe de raton, un thread hablando sobre la clasificacion taxonomica Negro-Med, e iba a poner que la mayoria son portadores del EUVETRECE, cosa que iba a provocar mi segundo baneo, por eso lo frene. Pero algo podria tener en mente...Quote:
Originally Posted by Spaniard 2.0
Southwest Iberian© by gixajo. All rights reserved-2020Quote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
https://media1.tenor.com/images/2016...temid=15656265
Qué cabrón...:picard1:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocinante
No nos olvidemos del Bilbaíno-Irish © by gixajo. All rights reserved-2020 :)
Con mapas y todo:
https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....l=1#post706298
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IrelandBritain&NFrance:VK456,0.0107,0.0125,0.0173,0.0181,0.0118,0.008,0.0011,-0.0003,0.0026,-0.0009,-0.0062,0.0028,-0.0135,-0.01,0.0182,0.0033,-0.0091,0.0025,-0.0042,0.0005,-0.0028,0.0038,-0.0018,0.0031,0.0036
IrelandBritain&NFrance:VK201,0.0112,0.0136,0.0154,0.0152,0.0139,0.0047,0.0017,0.0021,0.0018,-0.0017,-0.0055,0.0043,-0.0131,-0.012,0.02,-0.0044,-0.0208,-0.001,-0.0009,0.0033,0.0075,0.0036,-0.0084,0.0153,0.003
IrelandBritain&NFrance:VK525,0.0108,0.0133,0.0182,0.016,0.014,0.0092,0.0013,0.0038,0.0031,0.0016,-0.0064,0.0054,-0.0092,-0.0134,0.0189,0.0112,-0.0073,-0.0017,-0.0012,0.0021,0.0052,0.0033,-0.0032,0.0102,0.0041
IrelandBritain&NFrance:VK203,0.0112,0.0136,0.016,0.0175,0.01,0.0084,0.0013,0.0042,-0.0005,0.0018,-0.005,0.0048,-0.0077,-0.0104,0.0185,-0.0044,-0.0204,0.0015,0.0051,0.0083,-0.002,0.0037,-0.0036,0.0129,-0.0015
IrelandBritain&NFrance:VK207,0.0113,0.0135,0.0163,0.0144,0.0108,0.0047,0.0003,0.0014,0.0029,0.0018,-0.0021,0.0052,-0.01,-0.0073,0.025,-0.0052,-0.0136,0.0002,0.005,0.0009,0.001,0.0056,-0.0031,0.0212,0.002
IrelandBritain&NFrance:VK386,0.012,0.0126,0.0167,0.0189,0.0147,0.0083,0.0002,-0.0012,0.0015,0.0038,-0.0039,0.0032,-0.0142,-0.0073,0.0199,0.008,-0.001,0.0008,0.0024,0.0129,0.0075,0.0065,0.0032,0.0092,-0.0014
IrelandBritain&NFrance:VK202,0.0107,0.013,0.0145,0.0172,0.0132,0.0077,-0.003,0.0009,0.0062,0.0056,-0.0002,0.0079,-0.0102,-0.0118,0.0191,0.0064,0.0019,0.004,0.0002,0.0046,0.0049,0.0018,-0.0029,0.0064,0.005
IrelandBritain&NFrance:VK545,0.0107,0.0132,0.016,0.0158,0.0123,0.0094,0.0006,0.0009,0.0001,0.002,-0.0006,0.0086,-0.0101,-0.0131,0.0168,0.0025,-0.005,0.0013,0.0043,0,0.0046,-0.0024,0.0027,0.0082,0.0013
IrelandBritain&NFrance:VK405,0.0112,0.0131,0.0157,0.0191,0.0114,0.0038,-0.0003,0.0015,0.0043,-0.001,0.0022,0.0067,-0.0109,-0.0097,0.0136,0.0006,-0.0124,0.0012,0.0042,-0.0021,0.0097,0.003,-0.0018,0.0087,0.0043
LevantGreece&Italy:QED-4,0.0081,0.0139,-0.0147,-0.0251,-0.0068,-0.0112,-0.0032,-0.0027,0.0032,0.012,0.0018,-0.0077,0.01,-0.0005,-0.0118,0.0171,0.0083,-0.0007,0.0045,0,0.0026,0.0068,0.0018,0.0055,-0.0033
LevantGreece&Italy:QED-12,0.0077,0.0145,-0.0134,-0.0276,-0.0025,-0.0096,-0.0043,-0.0037,0.0077,0.0088,0.0048,-0.0092,0.0115,-0.0001,-0.0055,-0.0064,0.0054,0.0003,-0.0026,0.0077,-0.0015,0.0055,-0.0073,0.0054,-0.0092
LevantGreece&Italy:RMPR42,0.007,0.0147,-0.0162,-0.0283,-0.0036,-0.0101,-0.0015,-0.0044,0.0064,0.0055,0.0038,-0.0017,0.0082,0.0031,-0.0068,0.0055,-0.0009,0.0016,0.0035,0.001,-0.001,0.0067,0.0015,0,-0.0016
LevantGreece&Italy:I2201,0.0077,0.0147,-0.0146,-0.0312,-0.0046,-0.0115,-0.0009,-0.0027,0.0061,0.0042,0.0069,-0.0022,0.0127,0.0027,0.0018,0.0079,0.0026,0.0065,-0.0008,-0.0026,0.0043,0.0073,-0.0023,0.0004,-0.0034
LevantGreece&Italy:SFI-15,0.0072,0.0135,-0.016,-0.0299,-0.0061,-0.0121,-0.0026,-0.0042,0.0037,0.0057,0.0012,-0.0031,0.0088,-0.0008,-0.0045,0.0068,-0.0009,-0.003,0.0044,-0.0016,0.0041,0.0033,-0.0036,0.0025,-0.0016
LevantGreece&Italy:RMPR1550,0.0074,0.0138,-0.0126,-0.0231,-0.0042,-0.0094,-0.004,-0.0031,0.0069,0.003,-0.0006,-0.0018,0.0058,-0.006,0.0008,0.0113,0.0114,0.0038,-0.0074,0.0023,-0.0015,0.005,0.0038,0.0007,-0.0014
LevantGreece&Italy:SFI-43,0.0034,0.0142,-0.014,-0.0363,0.0011,-0.0152,-0.0042,-0.0006,0.0227,0.0014,0.0092,-0.0125,0.0223,0.0019,-0.0032,0.002,-0.0007,-0.0032,-0.0022,0.0164,0.012,-0.0008,-0.0025,0.0043,-0.0024
LevantGreece&Italy:3DT26,0.0045,0.0154,-0.0135,-0.0316,-0.001,-0.0158,-0.0055,-0.0031,0.0156,0.0002,0.0027,-0.0103,0.0184,0.0028,-0.0029,0.004,-0.0006,-0.0008,-0.0047,0.0084,0.0028,-0.0031,-0.0009,0.0057,-0.0084
North_AfricaIberia&Italy:RMPR132,0.0025,0.0137,-0.0024,-0.023,0.0085,-0.0106,-0.0074,0.0015,0.0247,0.017,0.0028,-0.0012,0.0026,-0.0055,0.0044,-0.0087,0.0008,-0.0027,-0.0205,-0.0025,-0.0072,-0.0141,0.0092,-0.0092,0.0045
North_AfricaIberia&Italy:VIL011,0.0027,0.0144,0.0011,-0.0225,0.0114,-0.0139,-0.0041,0.0012,0.0295,0.023,0.0065,-0.0058,0.0057,-0.0095,0.0057,-0.0011,0.0058,-0.0182,-0.0187,0.0027,-0.0153,-0.0159,0.0179,-0.0039,0.0122
North_AfricaIberia&Italy:gun002,-0.0044,0.0121,-0.0022,-0.0227,0.0074,-0.0144,-0.0125,0.0069,0.0347,0.0241,0.0061,-0.0048,0.0161,-0.0158,0.0153,-0.0071,0.0015,-0.0163,-0.0374,0.0082,-0.0066,-0.0369,0.0256,0.0064,0.0082
North_AfricaIberia&Italy:gun005,-0.0017,0.0124,0.0011,-0.0176,0.0162,-0.0107,-0.0148,0.0023,0.0326,0.0155,0.0025,-0.0046,0.0109,-0.0111,0.0144,0.0014,0.0138,-0.0139,-0.0275,0.0147,-0.0113,-0.0207,0.0168,-0.0051,-0.0095
North_AfricaIberia&Italy:gun008,-0.0024,0.0137,0.0002,-0.0211,0.0137,-0.013,-0.0096,0.0024,0.0312,0.0168,0.0057,-0.0005,0.0105,-0.0116,0.0169,-0.0199,-0.0066,-0.016,-0.0323,0.0057,-0.0129,-0.0234,0.0152,0.0024,-0.0006
North_AfricaIberia&Italy:gun011,-0.0039,0.0129,-0.0014,-0.0207,0.01,-0.0135,-0.0145,0.0037,0.0356,0.015,0.0041,-0.0046,0.0164,-0.007,0.0182,-0.0138,-0.006,-0.0134,-0.0417,0.0065,-0.0153,-0.037,0.0187,-0.0065,0.0115
North_AfricaIberia&Italy:gun012,-0.0049,0.0136,-0.0008,-0.0243,0.0075,-0.0136,-0.0124,0.0026,0.0392,0.0124,0.0049,-0.0055,0.0075,-0.0188,0.0207,-0.0098,0.0095,-0.0162,-0.0374,0.0065,-0.0079,-0.0345,0.0181,-0.0021,0.0097
Sub-Saharan:KIN002,-0.0546,0.0059,0.0055,0.0054,0.0019,0.0071,-0.0006,0.0084,-0.0202,0.0109,0.0049,-0.0055,-0.0037,-0.0067,0.0028,0.0039,-0.0043,-0.0024,-0.0035,0.0102,0.0074,-0.0034,-0.0012,-0.0018,0.0059
Sub-Saharan:KIN004,-0.0549,0.0056,0.0048,0.0058,-0.0014,0.0025,-0.0055,0.0064,-0.0146,0.0083,0.0011,0.0025,-0.0005,-0.001,-0.006,0.0095,-0.0047,-0.0054,-0.0033,0.0024,0.0025,0.0013,0.0052,-0.0032,-0.0009
Sub-Saharan:NGO001,-0.0549,0.0066,0.0051,0.0025,-0.0043,0.0031,-0.0076,0.0053,-0.0158,0.0059,0.0026,0.0034,-0.0046,-0.0001,-0.0077,0.0087,-0.0092,0.0086,0.0014,-0.0004,-0.0055,-0.0071,-0.0014,-0.0078,-0.0019
Sub-Saharan:I2298,-0.0542,0.0065,0.0056,0.0035,0.0013,0.0047,-0.0042,0.007,-0.0099,0.0012,0.0005,0.0053,-0.0099,0.0023,-0.0142,0.004,-0.0109,0.0021,-0.0048,0.0052,0.0033,0.0032,0.0015,0.0047,0.0027
North_America:AN4,0.0045,-0.0328,0.0302,0.0227,-0.0333,-0.0057,-0.0798,-0.0964,-0.0018,-0.0122,0.0032,-0.0007,0.0011,-0.0049,-0.0101,-0.0033,0.0022,0.0003,0.009,0.0037,0.0018,-0.0046,0.0052,0.0036,0.0047
North_America:XVII-B-939,0.0046,-0.0327,0.0288,0.0222,-0.0334,-0.0067,-0.0816,-0.0996,-0.0007,-0.0086,-0.0022,0.0049,0.0014,-0.0042,-0.0054,-0.007,-0.0011,0.0061,0.0062,0.0062,0.0032,-0.0041,0.0056,0.0041,0.0056
Distance: 1.5774% / 0.01577438
80.2 FranceBritainGermany&Iberia
19.8 North_AfricaIberia&Italy
Eres muy mala gente.Quote:
Originally Posted by Defcon2
Toma ya, como si fuera poco meternos a los Canarian_Guanches en todos los modelos, ahora encima lo mezclan con más referencias, en Anthrogenica les sale North Africa hasta a los British.:picard1:
Target: gixajo
Distance: 1.5583% / 0.01558272
72.8 FranceBritainGermany&Iberia
16.6 North_AfricaIberia&Italy
7.6 Italy&France
3.0 IrelandBritain&NFrance
Target: gixajo_dad
Distance: 1.6359% / 0.01635920
64.2 FranceBritainGermany&Iberia
19.2 North_AfricaIberia&Italy
15.6 Italy&France
1.0 IrelandBritain&NFrance
Target: gixajo_mom
Distance: 1.4469% / 0.01446892
78.4 FranceBritainGermany&Iberia
13.6 North_AfricaIberia&Italy
8.0 IrelandBritain&NFrance
Hasta que no pones 1X no desaparece.:rotfl:
No sé que tienes en contra de los guanches si son buena gente, no todos los africanos del norte tenían una genética tan diferenciada de los europeos del sur a lo largo del tiempo, es por eso que hay cierto solapamiento. Lo digo por ese porcentaje ibérico o italiano que puedan obtener.Quote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
Los Guanches eran excelentes personas, no como otros que yo sé...:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Defcon2
Ahora en serio, no es un mal modelo del todo, teniendo en cuenta que se supone que son "vikingas" practicamente todas las referencias de nuestro porcentaje mayoritario y aún así conseguimos unas correctas distancias.:D
1.5 es bastante largo tratándose de unscaled, pero estaban muy mezclados.Quote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
Me esperaría distancias peores con esas referencias, por eso digo "correctas".Quote:
Originally Posted by Defcon2
Y tampoco me parecen mal esas etiquetas de NorthAfrican&Iberian&Italy y similares, al menos muestra que son individuos mezclados, y cubren herencias genéticas ambiguas, mostrando una tendencia más que un origen específico.
Nueva actualización de ADNTRO, da la impresión de que se basan en Gedmatch para dar estos resultados.
Van a actualización cada dos semanas.:eek:
"Tu similitud genética con etnias del mundo"
https://i.imgur.com/pOikl5y.png
"Tu similitud genética con regiones de España"
https://i.imgur.com/05zCHK4.png
Esto lo pongo con spoiler para que no me acusen de "nordicista".
"Tu similitud genética en paises actuales"
Spoiler!
Cada vez los países nórdicos están más al sur.Quote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
La semana que viene a ver que soy, hace una semana era cosa de un 80% gallego.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Defcon2
¿Tú exportaste datos en crudo a ADNTRO?
Me suena que Rocinante y Spaniard2.0 si lo hicieron.
Cada semana eres una persona diferente según esa empresa. No, no lo hice ni pienso hacerlo.Quote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
Bueno, por 10 euros es la empresa que más resultados me ha dado hasta ahora.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Defcon2
Laughing Out Loud.Quote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh no lances falsos rumores sobre mi personaQuote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
Son falsos rumores verdaderos.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spaniard 2.0
¿Alguna propuesta para hacer un modelo o calculador novedoso, original y cuqui con referencias customizadas?
O para hacer nuevas referencias también.
Ofrecezme opciones y sugeridme cosas, o me vengaré.
Haz una específicamente para españoles del suroeste.Quote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
Rencoroso...Quote:
Originally Posted by Defcon2
Oye, y hacer megareferencias, por ejemplo juntando las 4 referencias del modelo ese de "las cuatro esquinas de Europa" en una sola, y hacer lo mismo con Asia, África etc?
Saldrían distancias muy grandes, pero igual discriminaría bien por continentes el %...
Un modelo con una sola referencia por continente. Con mi porcentaje de modelos buenos frente a los desastroso, seguro que sería un desastre.;)
¿What is your opinion about this issue?
Bueno, me voy a echar la siesta, luego me pongo a hacer experimentos.
Eso pensé yo, pero para hacer una referencia representativa de Europa habría que tener en cuenta el número de habitantes de cada país, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
The genetics of the Spaniards, taking into consideration Castilians as a proxy, consists of about 56% of an EEF base of Anatolian origin, plus 14% of WHG which has always been present in Europe and the Iberian Peninsula, 13% of ANE originating from what today is the Eurasian steppe, 12% CHG of Caucasian origin and 4% of North African origin. Hispanic Americans have a more complex picture and can be very heterogeneous from each other, but they generally correspond to a mix already mentioned above plus a West African and Amerindian base. Many may also have more Middle Eastern or even Eastern Eurasian DNA than Amerindians or Spaniards.
Yep, basically is like that. CHG has ANE admixture (~1/3), so the % of ANE you gave is correct, but i prefer to say how much steppe admixture has an european or west asian population. Castillians usually have 28~29% of Steppe, meaning that they have 14~15% of ANE.Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrius
Para determinar un origen de zonas tan grandes de una forma burda, no hace falta eso.Quote:
Originally Posted by Defcon2
Pero dudo que funcione algo así.