Actual Importance of Haplogroups

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Originally Posted by Dick

Cope. You're a jew. Deal with it.

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He isn't a Jew, Jewish sperm is meaningless. Only Jewish eggs are important.

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Originally Posted by Longbowman

He isn't a Jew, Jewish sperm is meaningless. Only Jewish eggs are important.

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Then why are Jews religiously referred to by their father's name (Isaac ben Abraham), and circumcision is only done to males, not females? It seems every other Jewish thing is passed down patrilineally, with the exception of actual Jewishness.

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Originally Posted by Bobby Martnen

Then why are Jews religiously referred to by their father's name (Isaac ben Abraham), and circumcision is only done to males, not females? It seems every other Jewish thing is passed down patrilineally, with the exception of actual Jewishness.

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Why is interesting but irrelevant. The fact is that Jewishness is passed down matrilineally regardless of other things that are passed down patrilineally. We do not accept paternal half-Jews as Jews (although Reform communities do if they were raised Jewish).

Religiously, Orthodox Jewish services do not call up or make references to individual women. In the one exception that they do, the mi shebeyrakh, women are referred to by their mother's name (Sara bat Rivka), by the way.

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Originally Posted by Longbowman

Why is interesting but irrelevant. The fact is that Jewishness is passed down matrilineally regardless of other things that are passed down patrilineally. We do not accept paternal half-Jews as Jews (although Reform communities do if they were raised Jewish).

Religiously, Orthodox Jewish services do not call up or make references to individual women. In the one exception that they do, the mi shebeyrakh, women are referred to by their mother's name (Sara bat Rivka), by the way.

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Interesting, especially in light of the fact that Ashkenazi Jews get most of their Israelite ancestry from their paternal lines.

But it kinda makes sense to me, because while you will always know who your mother is, the identity of your biological father was unverifiable until the advent of DNA testing.

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Originally Posted by Bobby Martnen

Interesting, especially in light of the fact that Ashkenazi Jews get most of their Israelite ancestry from their paternal lines.

But it kinda makes sense to me, because while you will always know who your mother is, the identity of your biological father was unverifiable until the advent of DNA testing.

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Nearly all Jews get most of their Israelite ancestry paternally, but as you say, it's a foolproof method.

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Originally Posted by Longbowman

Nearly all Jews get most of their Israelite ancestry paternally, but as you say, it's a foolproof method.

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If you married a Gentile woman, would you raise your children/consider them to be Jewish?

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Originally Posted by Bobby Martnen

If you married a Gentile woman, would you raise your children/consider them to be Jewish?

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I'd probably raise them steeped in substantial Jewish culture and tradition, but I don't know if I'd consider them Jewish, so much as provide the cultural and knowledge based background for them to convert if so they desired.

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Originally Posted by Smeagol

It's objectively speaking irrelevant because it makes up an irrelevant percentage of your entire genome and says nothing about a person's racial character or anything else.

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No its important because haplogroups will tell you who you are related to directly and accurately you can be 14 percent italian it doesnt mean shit and you can only guess how you are related to soneone else if you are cousins. You need geneology paper haplogroups are pretty nuch set your this off spring. Autosomal dna ,recombines and mutates too fast haplogroups is more valuable for deep geneology than autosomal dna.

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Originally Posted by Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin

No its important because haplogroups will tell you who you are related to directly and accurately you can be 14 percent italian it doesnt mean shit and you can only guess how you are related to soneone else if you are cousins. You need geneology paper haplogroups are pretty nuch set your this off spring. Autosomal dna ,recombines and mutates too fast haplogroups is more valuable for deep geneology than autosomal dna.

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It tells you about one distant ancestor thousands of years ago. It's a very tiny part of your overall genome. Yes, autosomal DNA is much more important.

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Originally Posted by Smeagol

It tells you about one distant ancestor thousands of years ago. It's a very tiny part of your overall genome. Yes, autosomal DNA is much more important.

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What is your haplo?