Poland-Germany border, most interesting thing ever

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Originally Posted by Token

Autossomal admixture.

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Then probably 100% of Poles have some Germanic admixture.

As for patrilineage - for example my surname is Slavic, but I have a Non-Slavic Y-DNA (R1b-L617), which must be a leftover from Iron Age inhabitants. It has nothing to do with Germans (Deutsche).

R1b-L617 is not even common in Germany, but more to the west:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...-Map-of-R-L617

On the other hand, my mother's surname is of Germanic origin.

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Originally Posted by Peterski

What do you mean by ancestry? Some admixture or Y-DNA?

Because Rethel of course means Y-DNA haplo / patrilineage.

My patrilineage and surname for example are Slavic, but I have a Non-Slavic Y-DNA (R1b-L617), which must be a leftover from Iron Age inhabitants. It has nothing to do with Germans (Deutsche).

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As your case clearly shows, not about haplo, but the second.
Haplo can be older than Germans, Poles, and unmemorable times.
In this duo (pol vs. ger) it would have only meaning if is not R1.

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Originally Posted by Rethel

How very rare? :blink:
If they did founded the state, if they are at least 80 mln people, how it is rare? :picard1:

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North-Americans are mostly a mix of different European ethnicities, German being the most prominent followed by Irish and English.

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Originally Posted by Rethel

As your case clearly shows, not about haplo, but the second.
Haplo can be older than Germans, Poles, and unmemorable times.
In this paar (pol vs. ger)it would have only meaning if is not R1.

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Yeah but what I mean by Non-Slavic is that it did not expand during Slavic Migrations, as you can clearly tell considering what is its age (much older) and distribution (no correlation with Slavic languages). But it also does not correlate with Germans. It was probably from Celts who settled in Poland.

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Originally Posted by Token

North-Americans are mostly a mix of different European ethnicities, German being the most prominent followed by Irish and English.

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In 1980 census, English was actually the most frequently reported ancestry in the USA:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...64#post4675264

Genetic studies (Bryc 2015) also show that British ancestry is higher than German.

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Originally Posted by Peterski

Then probably 100% of Poles have some Germanic admixture.

As for patrilineage - for example my surname is Slavic, but I have a Non-Slavic Y-DNA (R1b-L617), which must be a leftover from Iron Age inhabitants. It has nothing to do with Germans (Deutsche).

R1b-L617 is not even common in Germany, but more to the west:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...-Map-of-R-L617

On the other hand, my mother's surname is of Germanic origin.

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You are talking about specifically German ancestry or general Germanic? Germanic is a too broadly category and even the majority of Southern Europeans have some Germanic admixture.

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Originally Posted by Token

North-Americans are mostly a mix of different European ethnicities, German being the most prominent followed by Irish and English.

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And what? People who came on Mayflower are suddenly Indians? Or maybe Germans? :picard2:

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Originally Posted by Peterski

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...-Map-of-R-L617

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The link doesn;t work.

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Originally Posted by Token

You are talking about specifically German ancestry or general Germanic?

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General Germanic.

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Originally Posted by Rethel

The link doesn;t work.

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The distribution of people with R1b-L617 (as of December 2016):

http://i.imgur.com/87kvu5Y.png

Could be from the Lugii (Lugians), which is a Celtic ethnonym:

http://i.imgur.com/91eYtUe.png

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Originally Posted by Rethel

And what? People who came on Mayflower are suddenly Indians? Or maybe Germans? :picard2:

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I don't know what you are talking about, why you don't try to be more direct and objective? I just believe that ancestry and culture needs to walk side by side.