Serbian Autosomal DNA

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Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

you mean the old k15 map? k15 is not very reliable, i don't use it anymore.

it's probably this one, it's the most northern D.Serb k15 i have, his first 4 components add up to 68%. i only have his k15.

North_Sea	20.55
Atlantic	16.22
Baltic	17.39
Eastern_Euro	14.31
West_Med	13.08
West_Asian	4.08
East_Med	12.61
Red_Sea	1.33
South_Asian	0
Southeast_Asian	0
Siberian	0.1
Amerindian	0
Oceanian	0.34
Northeast_African	0
Sub0Saharan	0

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You don't have his K13?

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Originally Posted by Pribislav

You don't have his K13?

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no

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Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

they are around 50% usually, but Serbs are even higher.
remember this one from Plav and Cetinje posted by CommonSense, she is 27 and 25, just like the second one:

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Admix Results (sorted):

#        Population        Percent
1        North_Atlantic        27.17
2        Baltic        25.94
3        East_Med        20.36
4        West_Med        19.07
5        West_Asian        5.13
6        Siberian        1.57
7        Red_Sea        0.39
8        Oceanian        0.37

Single Population Sharing:

#        Population (source)        Distance
1        Serbian        6.68
2        Romanian        6.84
3        Bulgarian        8.01
4        Moldavian        12.51
5        Hungarian        12.65
6        Greek_Thessaly        13.77
7        Croatian        13.97
8        North_Italian        14.7
9        Austrian        14.8
10        Tuscan        15.98
11        East_German        16.49
12        French        17.8
13        West_German        18
14        Portuguese        18.56
15        Spanish_Galicia        19.2
16        South_Dutch        19.35
17        Italian_Abruzzo        19.58
18        Spanish_Cataluna        19.61
19        West_Sicilian        20.01
20        Spanish_Extremadura        20.11

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#                Primary Population (source)        Secondary Population (source)        Distance
1                62.9%        Tuscan        +        37.1%        Estonian_Polish        @        4.54
2                63.3%        Tuscan        +        36.7%        Belorussian        @        4.56
3                61.1%        Tuscan        +        38.9%        Southwest_Russian        @        4.66
4                67.1%        Tuscan        +        32.9%        Lithuanian        @        4.72
5                57.4%        Tuscan        +        42.6%        Ukrainian        @        4.8
6                63%        Tuscan        +        37%        Russian_Smolensk        @        5.08
7                66.4%        Tuscan        +        33.6%        Estonian        @        5.14
8                56.5%        Tuscan        +        43.5%        South_Polish        @        5.17
9                89.7%        Serbian        +        10.3%        Sardinian        @        5.19
10                60.8%        West_Sicilian        +        39.2%        Estonian        @        5.21
11                62%        Tuscan        +        38%        Ukrainian_Belgorod        @        5.27
12                60.8%        Tuscan        +        39.2%        Polish        @        5.37
13                53.9%        Croatian        +        46.1%        Tuscan        @        5.39
14                50.4%        West_Sicilian        +        49.6%        South_Polish        @        5.39
15                64.9%        Tuscan        +        35.1%        Kargopol_Russian        @        5.41
16                57.7%        West_Sicilian        +        42.3%        Belorussian        @        5.52
17                51.4%        West_Sicilian        +        48.6%        Ukrainian        @        5.52
18                56.6%        Tuscan        +        43.4%        Ukrainian_Lviv        @        5.56
19                80.2%        Serbian        +        19.8%        Tuscan        @        5.57
20                67.3%        Tuscan        +        32.7%        East_Finnish        @        5.58

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btw, the surnames are Jaric and Djujic.

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Djujić is maybe same person who is tested on y dna (R1a-M458>L1029), and according to whose results is determinated y dna of vojvoda Momčilo Djujić. Tested Djujić live in USA, he have paternal origin from same village as vojvoda. In USA Serbs from various regions are mixed with each other. My cousins full D. Serb which live in Chicago is married for Serb from northern Bosnia, my other cousin D. Serb also from Chicago is married for Serb from Požega in W. Serbia.

Jarić is R1a-Z280>Y2613. He has a match in y dna with some Croatian from some island, Pašman or something. Jarić tested on y dna is from Zrmanja in southern Lika, close to Dalmatia but not Dalmatia.

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Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

you mean the old k15 map? k15 is not very reliable, i don't use it anymore.

it's probably this one, it's the most northern D.Serb k15 i have, his first 4 components add up to 68%. i only have his k15.

North_Sea	20.55
Atlantic	16.22
Baltic	17.39
Eastern_Euro	14.31
West_Med	13.08
West_Asian	4.08
East_Med	12.61
Red_Sea	1.33
South_Asian	0
Southeast_Asian	0
Siberian	0.1
Amerindian	0
Oceanian	0.34
Northeast_African	0
Sub0Saharan	0

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His position on K15 map.
https://i.imgur.com/IFBeNU8.jpg

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Originally Posted by Pribislav

His position on K15 map.
[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/IFBeNU8.jpg[/MG]

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way northern than average Serb indeed.

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Originally Posted by Bosniensis

way northern than average Serb indeed.

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more western, the average Serb is halfway between the Serbian and Croatian points.

but k15 is not that good anyways.

Hmm where I can fit?

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Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

more western, the average Serb is halfway between the Serbian and Croatian points.

but k15 is not that good anyways.

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Maybe Krajina Serbs are western shifted due to I1. It's high among Dalmatian Serbs, but Lika Serbs have about Serbian average, and Kordun and Banija Serbs less than Serbian average.
Also, maybe it's partly connected with clades of R1a which are specific for Krajina Serbs R1a-Z280>YP951 and R1a-Z280>Y2613.

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Originally Posted by MiloshN

Hmm where I can fit?

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but you didn't test yet :D

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Originally Posted by Pribislav

Maybe Krajina Serbs are western shifted due to I1. It's high among Dalmatian Serbs, but Lika Serbs have about Serbian average, and Kordun and Banija Serbs less than Serbian average.
Also, maybe it's partly connected with clades of R1a which are specific for Krajina Serbs R1a-Z280>YP951 and R1a-Z280>Y2613.

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they aren't particularly west shifted. Dušan made a k13 average for Serbs from Croatia, it's only 24.61 North_Atlantic. but Serbs as a whole are more West shifted than i expected.