Behind closed doors: battling domestic violence in Bosnia

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Originally Posted by Bosniensis

I've said I want 3 kids and I don't want to send them to Kindergarten or to anyone else, I want them raised by mother.

That is completely reasonable request, and most of modern women refuse it cause they don't want to raise children.

Women can not have career and raise 3 kids at home.

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You don't have money, you don't have land and you don't know to do anything with your hands. You are not a talented man with great career or successful business.
Such men will easily find women like you want. But not you.

If you want to change it, stop playing video games, trolling on forums and working a dead end job. Improve yourself.

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Originally Posted by Toppo900

Well, a man back then has to prove his worth to the father of the daughter that he wants to marry, and if he couldn't then shame would befall upon the man. It wasn't all sunshine and butterfly for men back then either, especially in the Arab world. In fact, after the patriarchal society on the western world collapsed, both men and women felt freedom like never before.

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Peasants in Panonnia (northern Croatia) or Dalmatian Islands/Coast did not beat their women and they were far less primitive than dinaric sheperds Alberto Fortis described.
Perhaps Ottoman influence in dinaric regions played a part, Ottomans were known for violence after all.

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Originally Posted by Bosniensis

I've said I want 3 kids and I don't want to send them to Kindergarten or to anyone else, I want them raised by mother.

That is completely reasonable request, and most of modern women refuse it cause they don't want to raise children.

Women can not have career and raise 3 kids at home.

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Funny because my mother worked and still continue working, and we're a children of 3(only boys), and we came out just fine since we had a 24/7 housemaid, and my mom did both jobs(a mother and a teacher) which I greatly respects her for. She didn't neglected her responsibilities as a mother, and she had plenty of time for us since she came home everyday early as a school teacher. And besides, I don't want my fiancee to be stay at home either since it's her dream to work as a nurse, and that the raising a child here requires a lot of money.

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Originally Posted by Toppo900

Funny because my mother worked and still continue working, and we're a children of 3(only boys), and we came out just fine since we had a 24/7 housemaid, and my mom did both jobs(a mother and a teacher) which I greatly respects her for. She didn't neglected her responsibilities as a mother, and she had plenty of time for us since she came home everyday early as a school teacher. And besides, I don't want my fiancee to be stay at home either since it's her dream to work as a nurse, and that the raising a child here requires a lot of money.

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My mother had three kids and she is very successful lawyer. But she was often absent from home (still is) due to her work, and I did not enjoy it. That's why I am closer to my father.
I greatly respect her sacriface and hard work she always did for us, but I want a different life.

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Originally Posted by Feiichy

You don't have money, you don't have land and you don't know to do anything with your hands. You are not a talented man with great career or successful business.
Such men will easily find women like you want. But not you.

If you want to change it, stop playing video games, trolling on forums and working a dead end job. Improve yourself.

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Why would I stop playing video games? I work 8h / day... I earn plenty of money, have a 200m2 personal house, I live better in Bosnia than maybe 30% people in Germany.

That doesn't change the fact that 99% of Women on Balkans doesn't want to focus on raising kids.

I am starting to think that women are insulted by the fact they need to raise kids.

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Originally Posted by Bosniensis

Why would I stop playing video games? I work 8h / day... I earn plenty of money, have a 200m2 personal house, I live better in Bosnia than maybe 30% people in Germany.

That doesn't change the fact that 99% of Women on Balkans doesn't want to focus on raising kids.

I am starting to think that women are insulted by the fact they need to raise kids.

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Do you earn enough money to support stay at home wife and children? I doubt it. If you do, than I don't think you will have problem to find a woman. Try in rural areas, they are very conservative.

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Originally Posted by Feiichy

My mother had three kids and she is very successful lawyer. But she was often absent from home (still is) due to her work, and I did not enjoy it. That's why I am closer to my father.
I greatly respect her sacriface and hard work she always did for us, but I want a different life.

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I know an Arab family like that, but the opposite where the father works most of his days without even seeing his children and wife. I mean, back in the day, you get the money that you're required to have to start a family without any finiancial trouble. Now, it's very different due to corporate greed, the stagnation of salaries and inflation rates going up the roof.

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Originally Posted by Toppo900

I know an Arab family like that, but the opposite where the father works most of his days without even seeing his children and wife. I mean, back in the day, you get the money that you're required to have to start a family without any finiancial trouble. Now, it's very different due to corporate greed, the stagnation of salaries and inflation rates going up the roof.

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When we were little, my mother was a judge with 8 hour working day and she had lot of time for us. My father was a absent one because he was an engineer on oil platforms in North Africa. He would be away for months and earned a lot. Later he got tired of it (and he was thrown out for reporting some of the crew were stealing oil) found a modest paid job in our home city shipyard. Than we didn't have lot of money needed for family of 5.

My mother became a lawyer and started working much more, all day basically. It is like that since than. Father later found a public sector job and he doesn't sweat a lot (plus he has lot of free time, holidays) But without money earned by my mother we would struggle a lot. They switched roles basically.

Mother earns more as lawyer than as a judge, but our family life suffered greatly due to that. And she has to work much harder. It affected her health and nerves. Not a easy life for a woman.

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Originally Posted by Bosniensis

Why would I stop playing video games? I work 8h / day... I earn plenty of money, have a 200m2 personal house, I live better in Bosnia than maybe 30% people in Germany.

That doesn't change the fact that 99% of Women on Balkans doesn't want to focus on raising kids.

I am starting to think that women are insulted by the fact they need to raise kids.

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Truth is actually opposite that our regions have that kind of women called gold diggers ili na Srpskom sponzoruse. They will stay at home and raise kids if they find man with enough money. So I don't know if you are trolling or don't know much women.

Women don't want necessarily rich men. But they want men with potential, man who is good in something he does whatever it may be. Talented craftsman like carpenter or tailor or car mechanic with his own body shop will be very attractive for most women. Much more than lazy rich heir or a wage slave working badly paid government job and basically doing nothing all day.

We respect men who love to work and earn for their family with their own hard work. Being lazy or non ambitious is a huge turn off. Peasants have to work a lot. I doubt many modern men would be ready for such back breaking labor.