Croatian Eurogenes results

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Originally Posted by ph2ter

North_Sea 18.39
Atlantic 23.93
Baltic 20.76
Eastern_Euro 16.75
West_Med 6.67
West_Asian 7.68
East_Med 2.74
Red_Sea 1.75
South_Asian 0.45
Southeast_Asian 0.00
Siberian 0.00
Amerindian 0.83
Oceanian 0.06
Northeast_African 0.00
Sub-Saharan 0.00

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You're north shifted, i guess normal for a north croatian, here are my k15 results, i get the most snp on this calculator
North_Sea 11.95 Pct
Atlantic 15.65 Pct
Baltic 25.25 Pct
Eastern_Euro 11.63 Pct
West_Med 13.47 Pct
West_Asian 9.48 Pct
East_Med 8.84 Pct
Red_Sea 2.95 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.58 Pct
Oceanian 0.20 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

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Originally Posted by Leto

49.5% North_European... Looks like Dushan just got BTFO'd, lol :lol:

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???

I told you that they are way more northern than us, with average of probably 45%. And ph2ter has almost 50%.

It is none of my bussines, but Croatian average should be updated, because NW Croats are underrepresented.

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Originally Posted by Est.1992

It's excellent average. My father is extremelly typical everywhere. And Croatian average isn''t 45% North European on that like Dušan claims, I am 44% and more northern shifted than average. My mother, who is more southern than dad and me is big part German by the way.

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OK, your father is extremelly typical and very close to average.

https://i.imgur.com/Y73CRvA.jpg

But still, NW Croats are underrepresented.

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Originally Posted by Dušan

OK, your father is extremelly typical and very close to average.

https://i.imgur.com/Y73CRvA.jpg

But still, NW Croats are underrepresented.

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Possible, I don't know what samples were chosen for this average.

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Originally Posted by Dušan

???

I told you that they are way more northern than us, with average of probably 45%. And ph2ter has almost 50%.

It is none of my bussines, but Croatian average should be updated, because NW Croats are underrepresented.

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You were expecting p2hter to score like a typical Croat. But he is not.
It is fine, let it be. Leave politics aside.

del

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Originally Posted by Leto

You were expecting p2hter to score like a typical Croat. But he is not.
It is fine, let it be. Leave politics aside.

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You didn't understand.

I said that ph2ter, as typical NW Croat, will not get Croatian average because that average is south shifted. And I was right.

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Originally Posted by Dušan

You didn't understand.

I said that ph2ter, as typical NW Croat, will not get Croatian average because that average is south shifted. And I was right.

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is the dodecad average from Zagreb academic samples? they are right between south and north Croats, in k13 at least.

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Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

is the dodecad average from Zagreb academic samples? they are right between south and north Croats, in k13 at least.

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I dont know what is source for old Croatian average, but it is way too southern.

I got Serbian average before Ljubićs greatuncle (Bosnian Croat), Feiichys dad (southern Croat) and ph2ter (northwest Croat)m what is logical, but for some reason that old average is closer.

https://i.imgur.com/iGx0BLZ.jpg


This is average based on these there samples (ljubić, feiichy, ph2ter):

4,51
0,98
0,28
0,08
27,08
45,74
0,17
0,00
4,12
0,15
16,87
0,00


I am completly sure that it is closer to reality.

I am aware that some Croatian members are working at the moment on making more comprehensive and representative Croatian regional averages, but based on what I saw in the OP, the academic results, what I conclude is that there is a surprising overlap with many Hungarian results I have seen, only generally Croatians are less German but little bit more Slavic and Balkan than Hungarians. Also I do believe Croatians of Bosnia are the same population as those in Southern Croatia, so in someway they should be connected with mainland Croatian regional averages. But I don't have enough historical insight to say if they should also be part of the entire Croatian average, since Croatians in the North seem to be somewhat different than those in the South (who are similar to Croatians of Bosnia), but technically thy share the same country, so it would seem normal all regions of modern Croatia to be included in the new Croatian average. Another thing that keeps surprising me (but not really) every time I see it, is how different Croatian national averages are from Serbian national averages, which seems to disprove the common generalization of foreigners that they basically are the same people. I believe this generalization often comes from most people not really knowing the history of South-East Europe.