Ukrainian national average

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Originally Posted by Vjatych

I'm a northern Russian, I don't give a fuck. I have a fucking East Asians up to 3-4%. Russian Russians and my Central Russian wife have several times lower East Asia than Kiev Ukrainians.

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Are you not Alex-Rus? Alex is not Northern Russian, he's Central Russian and one quarter Southwestern, if I remember correctly. If you are not him, then why do you hate me, a basically non-active member?

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Originally Posted by Leto

Are you not Alex-Rus? Alex is not Northern Russian, he's Central Russian and one quarter Southwestern, if I remember correctly. If you are not him, then why do you hate me, a basically non-active member?

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Yes, it's me. You hate the Russian world and you are for Western Belarus, you were then...that's why we quarreled. If you've come to your senses, welcome to the family

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Originally Posted by Vjatych

It is Volyn that is closest to the Russians, not even to the Belarusians. Kiev is identical. The southern regions of Ukraine have their own impurities. The eastern regions are almost identical. Well, it makes no sense to tear a Belarusian, a central Ukrainian or a central Russian from each other, there are negligible differences. The Poles are on the sidelines, they are right very on the sidelines

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You are talking about the Russians in Ukraine or half-blood mixes. Ukrainians look very different from Russians and are different enough genetically. Culturally, we are very different too. I can tell apart a Russian from Ukrainian a mile away.

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Originally Posted by Vjatych

Yes, it's me. You hate the Russian world and you are for Western Belarus, you were then...that's why we quarreled. If you've come to your senses, welcome to the family

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I have always considered the Russians, Ukrainians and Belorussians one triune Russian people historically speaking, so that is not true about me. You and I may not agree about some details.

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Originally Posted by Leto

I have always considered the Russians, Ukrainians and Belorussians one triune Russian people historically speaking, so that is not true about me. You and I may not agree about some details.

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There's no more similarity than with other Slavic people. We come from completely different tribes with very different substrates. I'm surprised people still believe those Soviet fairy-tales about the same origins of East Slavics.

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Originally Posted by gixajo

Aren't you ashamed of doing what you are doing? I mean both Loki and Vjatych, you are harassing him just for identifying himself as Ukrainian.

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I do better, I never go down to communicating with Ukrainians in the Internet xD I just ignore their existence most of time.

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Originally Posted by hawklutz86

You are talking about the Russians in Ukraine or half-blood mixes. Ukrainians look very different from Russians and are different enough genetically. Culturally, we are very different too. I can tell apart a Russian from Ukrainian a mile away.

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I'd agree with you on the cultural part, Russians (especially urbanised ones) are really different from Ukrainians, especially the ones from the western regions, but phenotypically? It depends on which part of the country you're talking about. Obviously Russians from south-western/central regions would look identical to Ukrainians from south/north-eastern and central parts of Ukraine, but Russians aren't a monolith group, they have several different populations inside their nation. A northern Russian (a proper one and not some larper) would be much closer to Karelians and Estonians (both genetically and phenotypically) than to a Russian/Ukrainian from the southern regions. There's generally a single genetical continuum stretching from Poland all the way to Russia, and Russians(mostly southern ones), Ukrainians, Poles and Belarusians(central and southern ones) clump together into one cluster.

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Originally Posted by Victor

I do better, I never go down to communicating with Ukrainians in the Internet xD I just ignore their existence most of time.

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Why are you changing your niks all the time, now I don´t know if Vjatych and you are the same person, of if you are ugochaves and Victor is Russky, or the opposite.:D

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Originally Posted by hawklutz86

There's no more similarity than with other Slavic people. We come from completely different tribes with very different substrates. I'm surprised people still believe those Soviet fairy-tales about the same origins of East Slavics.

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Modern Ukraine is just a huge historical territory, it's a big lies saying that territory of ex-USSR inhabited by homogeneous historical nation of Ukrainians. Me personally as Southern of Nikolaev (so called Mykolaiv) want just a separation, Russia does not need central Ukraine, after the war it should be a Ukrainian state, all the South-East should become Russia and it will forget the Ukrainism as a horror dream in 1-2 generations.

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Originally Posted by gixajo

Why are you changing your niks all the time, now I don´t know if Vjatych and you are the same person, of if you are ugochaves and Victor is Russky, or the opposite.:D

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I'm Vandor. Vjatich is ex-ugochaves and he's on my ignore list for almost a month already.