Map of Europe showing WHG, Baltic HG, Yamnaya and Neolithic ancestry

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Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

something like this...

https://i.imgur.com/KAtMbal.png

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So it seems most archaic West Eurasian groups went extinct and there was a bottleneck from which the WHGs came out victorious until the EEFs took them over in numbers.

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Originally Posted by Dunai

So it seems most archaic West Eurasian groups went extinct and there was a bottleneck from which the WHGs came out victorious until the EEFs took them over in numbers.

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exactly. but the Sunghir/Kostenki cluster also survived, trough ANE, which ended up being the most succesful and widespread stone age population.

70% Sunghir/Kostenki + 30% East Eurasian -> ANE

70% ANE + 30% UHG -> EHG
30% ANE + 70% Dzudzuana -> CHG
50% ANE + 50% something similar to Dzudzuana in Iran -> Iran Mesolithic
50% ANE + 50% East Eurasian -> Amerindians

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Originally Posted by Dunai

So it seems most archaic West Eurasian groups went extinct and there was a bottleneck from which the WHGs came out victorious until the EEFs took them over in numbers.

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What is unknown Hunter gatherer? And why does it make 50 percent of Natufian dna? Was it spread throughout Middle East or was it a European group that back migrated into Middle East?

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Originally Posted by MechtoidAfalouHG

What is unknown Hunter gatherer?

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it's something related to WHG.

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Originally Posted by MechtoidAfalouHG

And why does it make 50 percent of Natufian dna? Was it spread throughout Middle East or was it a European group that back migrated into Middle East?

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I think currently option 1 is more popular. But we don't have enough samples to say for certain.

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Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

it's something related to WHG.


I think currently option 1 is more popular. But we don't have enough samples to say for certain.

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Is this component also present in Anatolian Hunter Gatherers? What can they be modelled as?

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Originally Posted by MechtoidAfalouHG

Is this component also present in Anatolian Hunter Gatherers? What can they be modelled as?

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Yes, Anatolian HG and Dzudzuana are identical. Later CHG is Dzudzuana+ANE.

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Originally Posted by MechtoidAfalouHG

Is this component also present in Anatolian Hunter Gatherers? What can they be modelled as?

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AHG were similar to Dzudzuana, so around 50/50 UHG/Basal.

In my case it's exactly like G25's default run:

Target: Gil_Vicente
Distance: 4.0115% / 0.04011473
52.0 TUR_Barcin_N
32.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
10.4 WHG
3.4 MAR_Taforalt
1.6 Yoruba


1] "distance%=4.0205"
Anatolia_Barcin_N,52.2
Yamnaya_RUS_Samara,32.4
WHG,10.4
MAR_Iberomaurusian,3.2
Yoruba,1.8

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Originally Posted by Damião de Góis

In my case it's exactly like G25's default run:

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Excepting that 0.4% Ju_hoan_North of my father, that formerly was part of his Ibero-Maurissian.

Spoiler!

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 3.7422% / 0.03742166
54.6 TUR_Barcin_N
29.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
14.2 WHG
2.2 MAR_Taforalt

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 3.5734% / 0.03573365
58.2 TUR_Barcin_N
27.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
10.8 WHG
3.4 MAR_Taforalt
0.4 Ju_hoan_North

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 4.7260% / 0.04726048
52.6 TUR_Barcin_N
30.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
15.6 WHG
1.6 MAR_Taforalt