Ashkenazi Jews are only 1/4 Israelite

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Originally Posted by Marco1900

even the Romans said they were the mixture between the Latin and Trojan people, this sums up Italian genetics better than all these graphics and percentages.

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Romans loved to link themself to Trojans due to their legacy. That is part of the legend.
Romans loved to glorify their origins, I dont think those kind of things can be used as source.

Is it fair to say the Jews are continuation of the Romans?

Credo pero che quella storia abbia un po di veritá, almeno il periodo imperiale i latini e gli italici si mischiarono con un popolo dell oriente come i greci e gli anatolici. Gli italiani moderni sono in generale un mic di questi due, con al nord che c'é un po di influenza celto/germanica e al sud qualcosa di medio-orientale in eccesso

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Originally Posted by libal

Is it fair to say the Jews are continuation of the Romans?

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No

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Originally Posted by Marco1900

Credo pero che quella storia abbia un po di veritá, almeno il periodo imperiale i latini e gli italici si mischiarono con un popolo dell oriente come i greci e gli anatolici. Gli italiani moderni sono in generale un mic di questi due, con al nord che c'é un po di influenza celto/germanica e al sud qualcosa di medio-orientale in eccesso

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They mixed with all conquered populations not only from ME this is what an empire usually do. That being said not much to change Italian gene pool or to make them have LOT of "MENA blood", whatever MENA blood is...
Also Romans used to live in provinces as well perhaps the one that mixed arent the Italian ones...

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Originally Posted by Dušan

How about this model:

cca 35% Samaritan, almost 60% central Italian and few percentage Slavic.

And no Slavic admixture among those in France and Germany, what is logical.
Later they moved from FR and DE to Slavic lands.

https://i.imgur.com/7eBOAYW.png

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Seems I was right with cca 35%


Illustrative DNA full Askenazi result from Reddit:
Bronze Age: 32% Canaanite
Iron Age: 32.4% Phoenician
Migration period: 37% Roman Levant

https://www.reddit.com/r/illustrativ...ic_at_the_end/

Interesting he got 3% East Asian.

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Originally Posted by Dušan

How about this model:

cca 35% Samaritan, almost 60% central Italian and few percentage Slavic.

And no Slavic admixture among those in France and Germany, what is logical.
Later they moved from FR and DE to Slavic lands.

https://i.imgur.com/7eBOAYW.png

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The issue is that the Italians at the time that Jews mixed with them were akin to modern South Italians, not modern Central Italians.

I believe the ethnogenesis of modern Italians happened concurrently in Italy with that of European Jews, from the same mixture of Iron Age Italians and Levantines. From what I've seen Iron Age Italians were North Italian/Iberian-like across the peninsula (maybe the Greek settlements in the South were already East Med shifted, but Latium is the most important area), so I believe that is primarily what the paternal ancestors of Ashkenazi Jews mixed with.

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Originally Posted by Johnson Reed

The issue is that the Italians at the time that Jews mixed with them were akin to modern South Italians, not modern Central Italians.

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the italians they mixed with were more "Northern" because if they mixed with Italians that were ethnically south italian, they wouldn't be so close to them

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Originally Posted by Ketchup

the italians they mixed with were more "Northern" because if they mixed with Italians that were ethnically south italian, they wouldn't be so close to them

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They are also ~15% Central European.