Is West Asian a European component?

In Southern Italy the West Asian component is very strong, almost as like in Greece.

West Asian is not an European component, for me.
Else why we call it that ("West Asian") ?

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Originally Posted by orangepulp

Because Caucasus ( sometimes referred to as West Asian)

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As usual more non-sense from you. Caucasus is not the same as West Asian when it comes to components at least on Dodecad. Both are close to European ones, but two of them are not the same. Caucasus is a completely artificial component. It is a mix of "Southern" and West Asian if I am not mistaken. You posted K12b Dodeacd spreadsheet without posting K7b one because K12b and K7b calculators are interchangable in a sense that what you get on K7b will help you to interprete your K12b results.

For example
Oetzi has ~20% Caucasus on K12b and ~0% West Asian on K7b. Since the
Caucasus component is West Asian + Southern, this means that his
"Caucasus" admixture is due to the "Southern" and not to the "West
Asian" part meaning that Greeks would be less than 50% "non-European" judging by your spreadsheet, but probably not that much less.

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Originally Posted by Solin

As usual more non-sense from you. Caucasus is not the same as West Asian when it comes to components at least on Dodecad. Both are close to European ones, but two of them are not the same. Caucasus is a completely artificial component. It is a mix of "Southern" and West Asian if I am not mistaken. You posted K12b Dodeacd spreadsheet without posting K7b one because K12b and K7b calculators are interchangable in a sense that what you get on K7b will help you to interprete your K12b results.

For example
Oetzi has ~20% Caucasus on K12b and ~0% West Asian on K7b. Since the
Caucasus component is West Asian + Southern, this means that his
"Caucasus" admixture is due to the "Southern" and not to the "West
Asian" part meaning that Greeks would be less than 50% "non-European".

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Western Asian component is caucasus+gedrosia if im not mistaken.

People, you should forget all these old components: ancient DNA made them obsolete just before Christmas.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rA10RDU9quU

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Originally Posted by Solin

As usual more non-sense from you. Caucasus is not the same as West Asian when it comes to components at least on Dodecad. Both are close to European ones, but two of them are not the same. Caucasus is a completely artificial component. It is a mix of "Southern" and West Asian if I am not mistaken. You posted K12b Dodeacd spreadsheet without posting K7b one because K12b and K7b calculators are interchangable in a sense that what you get on K7b will help you to interprete your K12b results.

For example
Oetzi has ~20% Caucasus on K12b and ~0% West Asian on K7b. Since the
Caucasus component is West Asian + Southern, this means that his
"Caucasus" admixture is due to the "Southern" and not to the "West
Asian" part meaning that Greeks would be less than 50% "non-European".

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It is the same sometimes they name the component West Asia sometimes they name it Caucasus. You will never see Caucasus and West Asia used as a term the same time on a calculator. Caucasus/ West Asian peaks in Georgians and Georgians are one of the closest to the pure form of West Asians. They have less admixture than Armenians and Turks for instance. Check Eurogenes K13 spreadsheet the West Asian component in Georgians:

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9o3...YmM/edit?pli=1

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Originally Posted by gregorius

Western Asian component is caucasus+gedrosia if im not mistaken.

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Depends on the calculator. On k12b Gedrosia itself is already a component which means the Caucasus component here does not contain Gedrosia.

These are my k12b results, by the way:

Caucasus: 51.2%
Gedrosia: 17%
Atlantic_Med: 10.5%
Southwest_Asian: 9.2%
North_European: 6.3%
Siberian: 2.9%
East_Asian: 2.9%
Northwest_African: 0%
Southeast_Asian: 0%
South_Asian: 0%
East_African: 0%
Sub_Saharan: 0%

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Originally Posted by orangepulp

Depends on the calculator. On k12b Gedrosia itself is already a component which means the Caucasus component here does not contain Gedrosia.

These are my k12b results, by the way:

Caucasus: 51.2%
Gedrosia: 17%
Atlantic_Med: 10.5%
Southwest_Asian: 9.2%
North_European: 6.3%
Siberian: 2.9%
East_Asian: 2.9%
Northwest_African: 0%
Southeast_Asian: 0%
South_Asian: 0%
East_African: 0%
Sub_Saharan: 0%

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If you add your caucasus and gedrosia you;; have your west asian component.

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Originally Posted by orangepulp

It is the same sometimes they name the component West Asia sometimes they name it Caucasus. You will never see Caucasus and West Asia used as a term the same time on a calculator. Caucasus/ West Asian peaks in Georgians and Georgians are one of the closest to the pure form of West Asians. They have less admixture than Armenians and Turks for instance. Check Eurogenes K13 spreadsheet the West Asian component in Georgians:

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9o3...YmM/edit?pli=1

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I have explained to you that they are not the same even if they are not used in the same calc simultaneously nor how could they because I explained it very nicely using Oetzi example.

Edit: Eurogenes is a different thing since Caucasus on Eurogenes is not the same as Caucasus on Dodeacad.