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Could you do the same for me? I'm curious because now among TA members IncelSlayer is closest to me xD So I wonder how I compare to other individual RO/MD samples?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
run Stears too please, why notCode:Stearsolina,27.8,35.43,15.9,10.2,9.6,0.01,0,0.78,0.21,0,0,0,0
Code:Stears,28.17,31.21,12.89,10.93,10.61,0.78,2.03,0.24,1.9,0.76,0,0.47,0
Sure, here you go:Quote:
Originally Posted by Stearsolina
Distance to: Stearsolina 3.97385204 Moldova_80_Chisinau 4.00792964 Romania_Moldavia_38_Galati 4.13898538 Moldova_18_Falesti 4.65735977 Moldova_13_Singerei 4.75413504 Moldova_89_Chisinau 4.91115058 Moldova_71_Chisinau 4.91554677 Moldova_37_Balti 5.02243965 Moldova_83_Chisinau 5.37134061 Moldova_124_Transnistria 5.38530408 Moldova_1_Ocnita 5.39127072 Moldova_81_Chisinau 5.47597480 Moldova_20_Rezina 5.48938977 Romania_Moldavia_48_Iasi 5.67369368 Moldova_12_Balti 5.87265698 Romania_Moldavia_19_Botosani 5.91962837 Moldova_72_Chisinau 6.08189937 Romania_Maramures_1_Maramures 6.09404627 Moldova_2_Ocnita 6.13724694 Moldova_86_Chisinau 6.13950324 Moldova_82_Chisinau 6.15689857 Romania_Moldavia_20_Suceava 6.24682319 Romania_Moldavia_24_Suceava 6.27340418 Moldova_23_Orhei_IonBasescul_dad 6.41789685 Romania_Moldavia_28_Suceava 6.42659319 Romania_Moldavia_33_Suceava
The one in bold is IncelSlayer
Distance to: Stears 2.66263028 Moldova_86_Chisinau 3.46638140 Romania_Moldavia_20_Suceava 3.51620534 Moldova_124_Transnistria 4.19535457 Moldova_89_Chisinau 4.62479189 Moldova_40_Balti 4.79122114 Moldova_21_Telenesti 4.87759162 Moldova_26_1/2Ungheni_1/2Straseni 4.89615155 Moldova_80_Chisinau 4.94295458 Romania_Moldavia_60_Vaslui 4.98365328 Moldova_23_Orhei_IonBasescul_dad 4.99290497 Romania_Moldavia_2_Botosani 5.04315378 Romania_Moldavia_36_Suceava 5.08581360 Moldova_33_Straseni 5.16120141 Moldova_57_Balti 5.18891125 Romania_Moldavia_37_Suceava 5.28729610 Moldova_39_Balti 5.29341100 Moldova_13_Singerei 5.29903765 Moldova_58_Balti 5.31476246 Moldova_62_Chisinau_IonBasescul_Merged 5.33677805 Moldova_18_Falesti 5.37698800 Moldova_5_Briceni 5.41364018 Romania_Moldavia_40_Iasi 5.42325548 Moldova_83_Chisinau 5.46086989 Romania_Moldavia_33_Suceava 5.46238043 Moldova_37_Balti
Thanks :)
From Iasi (seems to have some Roma ancestry)
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 23.90 28.62 12.32 8.58 17.06 1.83 4.17 0.61 2.02 0.57 0.32 0 0
Compared to others from Iasi
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 19.78 25.27 16.76 13.97 13.46 3.11 3.80 1.10 0.58 1.21 0.28 0.67 0 28.67 29.30 14.20 10.23 14.22 0 0.12 1.51 0 0.75 0.79 0.21 0 20.77 30.57 15.51 11.77 12.12 3.48 2.53 0 1.45 0.35 1.46 0 0 21.55 33.35 16.78 7.05 17.78 0.86 0 1.07 0.11 0.76 0 0 0.69 23.47 21.46 16.35 9.42 19.46 4.83 0.78 1.14 2.38 0 0.52 0 0.19 27.56 28.87 11.97 7.40 17.56 0 2.72 0 2.26 0.96 0.20 0.42 0.08 24.97 24.41 19.71 10.78 13.32 3.16 0 2.38 0.77 0.50 0 0 0 23.48 28.95 17.21 10.44 13.88 3.45 0 1.27 1.19 0 0.14 0 0 22.25 28.36 18.26 9.25 15.17 2.56 0.39 2.70 0 0.92 0.09 0 0 25.57 32.02 16.18 8.64 11.89 1.89 0.18 1.76 0 0.61 0 0.52 0.75 23.65 28.15 14.73 10.75 15.39 2.48 1.40 0.91 0.94 0.97 0 0.62 0 22.18 29.43 15.58 8.53 18.01 0.20 2.99 0 1.79 0.36 0.94 0 0 28.33 26.91 14.13 10.44 14.83 1.24 2.53 0 0.96 0.33 0 0 0.30 22.27 30.54 17.17 8.17 14.85 3.25 0 0.06 2.15 1.15 0.39 0 0 24.82 28.86 16.91 7.63 16.16 1.99 0.72 0.41 1.50 0.52 0.48 0 0
Distance to: Iasi_ind 5.26693459 Moldova_Centre 5.36584569 Romania_Moldavia_North 5.82410508 Moldova_average 5.92158762 Romania_Maramures 6.32214362 Romania_Moldavia_South 6.42077877 Serb_central 6.52719695 Serb 6.74060828 Serb_north 6.92074418 Serb_south 6.98869086 Romania_average 6.99894278 Bosniak 7.00596888 Romania_Transylvania 7.07967513 Csángó 7.14927269 Romania_Crisana 7.24387327 Székely 7.53458028 Romania_Banat 7.56341854 Croat_South 7.72470711 Bulgaria_Northwestern 7.97058969 Hungarian_Transylvania 7.99446684 Romania_Oltenia 8.11579325 Romania_Dobruja 8.15360043 Montenegrin 8.17608097 Romania_Wallachia 8.34242171 Croat_West 8.37305201 Moldova_South
Distance to: Iasi_ind 5.36584569 Romania_Moldova_Nord 5.92158762 Romania_Maramures 6.32214362 Romania_Moldova_Sud 6.94679063 Romania_average 7.00596888 Romania_Transilvania 7.08398899 Romania_Moldova_Csango 7.14927269 Romania_Crisana 7.53458028 Romania_Banat 7.59925967 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely 7.97058969 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian 7.99446684 Romania_Oltenia 8.11579325 Romania_Dobrogea 8.41921018 Romania_Muntenia 9.80799164 Bulgarian 12.15246066 Romania_Ukrainian 12.60196413 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 12.76494810 Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander 13.82758113 Aromanian_North-Macedonia 16.57711374 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon 18.20175266 Aromanian_Central-Macedonia 18.36733786 Ukrainian_Lviv 25.30186159 Crimean_Tatar 27.16344603 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar 30.53489152 Romania_Jewish 31.12306219 Romania_Roma
Target: Iasi_ind
Distance: 2.5019% / 2.50188471 | ADC: 0.25x RC
59.7 Romania_Ukrainian
15.7 Romania_Jewish
12.7 Romania_Roma
11.9 Romania_Moldova_Nord
-Ukrainian, Jewish
Target: Iasi_ind
Distance: 3.7420% / 3.74199572 | ADC: 0.25x RC
88.9 Romania_Moldova_Nord
11.1 Romania_Roma
Distance to: Iasi_ind 5.36603205 Romania_Moldavia_Iasi 5.80820971 Romania_Maramures_Maramures 5.98652654 Romania_Moldavia_Botosani 6.07897195 Romania_Moldavia_Suceava 6.20552173 Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui 6.22708600 Romania_Moldavia_Neamt 6.39346541 Romania_Moldavia_Bacau 6.45359590 Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara 6.79441683 Romania_Transylvania_Mures 6.79717588 Romania_Dobruja_Tulcea 6.84345673 Romania_Moldavia_3/4Romanian_1/4Roma 7.06356850 Romania_Transylvania_Cluj 7.13719833 Romania_Transylvania_Brasov 7.19587382 Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin 7.36945045 Romania_Muntenia_Braila 7.58897226 Romania_Transylvania_Szekler 7.60888954 Romania_Maramures_SatuMare 7.66571588 Romania_Transylvania_Alba 7.70646482 Romania_Crisana_Bihor 7.76949805 Romania_Banat_Timis 7.80903323 Romania_Oltenia_Dolj 7.82453193 Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea 7.86230246 Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu 7.90422039 Romania_Oltenia_Mehedinti 7.92782442 Romania_Moldavia_Galati
From Suceava
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 26.30 28.29 14.31 10.08 12.93 3.31 2.36 0.78 1.42 0 0 0 0.22
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 28.74 31.61 13.10 9.18 12.47 0.66 0.78 0 0.86 0.19 0.79 1.61 0 26.88 29.15 13.73 8.13 14.66 2.27 2.06 0 2.15 0.88 0.10 0 0 26.90 27.46 17.28 9.68 14.68 0 0 0 2.21 1.16 0.35 0 0.29 30.06 26.76 16.04 8.87 14.56 1.54 0 1.00 0.58 0 0.60 0 0 25.53 34.27 13.61 7.30 10.70 2.19 1.74 0 2.96 1.22 0.47 0 0 23.46 34.89 15.09 7.43 11.82 3.66 0 0 0.39 2.00 0.65 0.60 0 24.18 33.34 12.99 8.44 13.91 1.23 1.31 1.19 1.84 0.89 0.67 0 0 24.99 32.68 13.35 7.67 16.04 1.42 0.95 0 0.78 1.26 0.87 0 0 29.03 34.47 13.15 6.10 12.78 1.79 0.78 1.02 0.87 0 0 0 0 21.99 33.52 14.77 11.31 11.99 2.49 0.5 1.04 2.23 0 0.16 0 0 23.64 28.74 16.52 6.63 20.14 1.10 0 1.05 0.10 0.66 1.42 0 0 23.25 30.39 14.82 11.44 15.45 0 0.23 0.28 2.95 0 0 1.16 0 24.37 39.23 10.88 6.70 13.46 1.45 0 0 2.62 0.51 0.79 0 0 24.60 32.75 14.70 8.38 10.93 2.70 2.02 0 1.75 1.72 0.25 0.20 0 24.50 37.74 11.01 7.68 12.62 2.75 0.39 0.96 1.12 0 0.26 0 0.98 29.07 22.81 19.18 5.32 16.58 0.75 3.66 1.13 1.37 0 0.13 0 0 25.45 31.50 13.01 8.99 11.95 4.09 1.91 0.19 2.63 0 0 0 0.27 24.89 29.70 13.45 10.92 13.81 1.22 2.85 0 1.13 0 0.73 1.31 0
Distance to: Suceava_ind 3.75035998 Csángó 3.87340935 Székely 4.12035193 Hungarian_Transylvania 4.20980997 Romania_Moldavia_North 4.63273138 Moldova_Centre 4.76273031 Romania_Maramures 4.92229621 Serb_north 4.97049293 Moldova_average 5.13280625 Serb 5.16578164 Croat_South 5.19004817 Serb_central 5.37715538 Bosniak 5.60838658 Croat_West 5.81252957 Romania_Moldavia_South 5.90868006 Romania_Crisana 6.42330133 Romania_Transylvania 6.48607740 Croat 6.95253910 Romania_average 7.16994421 Moldova_North 7.26015151 Hungarian_Alföld 7.27370607 Montenegrin 7.28688548 Croat_East 7.53239006 Hungarian 7.57187559 Serb_south 7.68466655 Romania_Banat
Distance to: Suceava_ind 3.75082658 Romania_Moldova_Csango 4.06204008 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely 4.12035193 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian 4.20980997 Romania_Moldova_Nord 4.76273031 Romania_Maramures 5.81252957 Romania_Moldova_Sud 5.90868006 Romania_Crisana 6.42330133 Romania_Transilvania 7.15738081 Romania_average 7.68466655 Romania_Banat 7.86486491 Romania_Oltenia 8.71012629 Romania_Dobrogea 9.18854178 Romania_Muntenia 10.72701729 Bulgarian 11.04024003 Romania_Ukrainian 11.61011197 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 13.04527117 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon 13.52807451 Aromanian_North-Macedonia 13.78284804 Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander 16.21120909 Ukrainian_Lviv 18.94138327 Aromanian_Central-Macedonia 25.70911900 Crimean_Tatar 27.43923468 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar 32.86897017 Romania_Jewish 33.35941846 Romania_Roma
Target: Suceava_ind
Distance: 2.2795% / 2.27952484 | ADC: 0.25x RC
55.3 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
32.4 Romania_Moldova_Nord
6.5 Romania_Roma
4.4 Ukrainian_Lviv
1.4 Crimean_Tatar
-Hungarian
Target: Suceava_ind
Distance: 3.0500% / 3.04998014 | ADC: 0.25x RC
64.5 Romania_Crisana
25.7 Ukrainian_Lviv
5.9 Romania_Roma
3.9 Crimean_Tatar
-Ukrainian
Target: Suceava_ind
Distance: 3.8461% / 3.84614055 | ADC: 0.25x RC
85.0 Romania_Moldova_Nord
9.5 Romania_Crisana
3.3 Romania_Roma
2.2 Crimean_Tatar
Distance to: Suceava_ind 4.07388021 Romania_Moldavia_Csango 4.10256018 Romania_Moldavia_Iasi 4.13140412 Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui 4.20952491 Romania_Maramures_Maramures 4.49514182 Romania_Transylvania_Szekler 4.57343416 Romania_Moldavia_Suceava 5.12246035 Romania_Moldavia_Neamt 5.19587336 Romania_Transylvania_Mures 5.31316290 Romania_Moldavia_Botosani 5.53427502 Romania_Transylvania_Bistrita-Nasaud 5.65402511 Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian 5.73810073 Romania_Crisana_Salaj 6.13749134 Romania_Moldavia_Bacau 6.28377275 Romania_Transylvania_Brasov 6.68013473 Romania_Banat_Caras-Severin 6.73299339 Romania_Transylvania_Sibiu 6.75234774 Romania_Transylvania_Cluj 6.91590920 Romania_Transylvania_Alba 7.28678942 Romania_Transylvania_Hunedoara 7.42911839 Romania_Oltenia_Dolj 7.61738800 Romania_Maramures_SatuMare 7.63127119 Romania_Oltenia_Gorj 7.75138697 Romania_Crisana_Bihor 7.78467726 Romania_Crisana_Arad 7.86951714 Romania_Oltenia_Mehedinti
2 kits from Cahul, which push into the Northern end, meaning that there are profiles more typical to the Central/Northern regions in the South as well. I didn't doubt that personally, considering how few kits from the South I have compared to the other regions. But it is still obvious that people here have a more Southern genetic shift on average.
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 26.62 25.42 17.46 6.44 18.72 2.83 0.23 1.27 0.54 0.37 0 0 0.10 24.24 30.96 16.93 9.20 12.37 3.87 0 0.26 0.80 0.63 0.73 0 0
Compared to others from Cahul
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 25.52 22.73 18.64 10.79 16.15 1.81 0.56 0.39 1.59 1.43 0.39 0 0 22.29 23.14 18.52 9.30 22.34 0.76 0 0.51 1.65 0.89 0.23 0.38 0 22.37 27.22 20.67 11.29 12.72 2.47 0.35 0 2.30 0.43 0.19 0 0 22.73 24.91 19.63 10.59 16.07 1.66 1.38 0.20 1.36 0.94 0.53 0 0
Compared to others from the South (in red are the academic samples from the mono-ethnic village of Caplani in Stefan Voda district)
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 21.75 29.53 15.63 11.25 16.39 0.98 1.08 0 3.24 0 0.15 0 0 20.92 28.56 14.80 9.67 22.16 0.86 1.64 0 0.64 0 0 0 0.75 25.66 20.54 19.38 7.46 19.11 3.14 0 1.73 1.97 0 0.31 0.71 0 24.58 26.99 16.65 9.73 18.18 0.81 0.65 0 0 1.67 0.67 0 0.08 21.01 25.42 16.62 11.92 18.51 4.11 0.58 0 0 0 0.50 0.51 0.82 18.42 25.95 16.17 15.44 17.84 3.82 0.56 0.56 0 1.25 0 0 0 18.27 19.97 19.01 15.32 19.44 4.68 0.12 1.50 0.68 0.54 0 0 0.48 19.84 23.81 19.67 11.16 19.93 3.16 0 0.00 1.21 0.29 0.52 0 0.40 22.08 23.50 19.95 9.57 19.50 3.24 0 1.74 0.34 0 0.08 0 0 16.91 24.06 20.61 12.07 23.58 0 0.52 0 1.03 0 0.29 0.45 0.50 20.23 23.81 21.69 7.85 19.98 3.35 0 0 2.91 0 0.19 0 0 21.08 28.93 14.78 9.89 19.66 4.48 0.57 0.61 0 0 0 0 0 21.23 24.68 15.16 12.29 20.35 3.67 0 0 2.38 0 0.25 0 0 26.39 24.34 17.44 13.21 12.41 4.18 0 0.31 0.71 0 0.89 0 0.12 18.04 26.87 17.24 12.49 19.31 2.99 0.68 0.27 1.35 0.76 0 0 0
Distance to: Cahul_1 4.54221312 Romania_Crisana 4.68525346 Montenegrin 4.92835672 Serb_south 4.93947366 Romania_Transylvania 5.10911930 Romania_Moldavia_South 5.25331324 Bosniak_Sandzak 5.56024280 Romania_Oltenia 5.58098558 Romania_average 5.76673218 Romania_Maramures 5.89134959 Serb_central 6.03054724 Romania_Banat 6.04260705 Bulgaria_Northwestern 6.44412135 Serb 6.50380658 Romania_Wallachia 6.54205625 Romania_Dobruja 6.55199969 Bulgaria_Southwestern 6.78810725 Moldova_South 6.96381361 Romania_Muntenia 7.34267662 Bulgaria_average 7.56006614 Serb_north 7.70142636 Macednia_north 7.71762269 Székely 7.77950513 Romania_Moldavia_North 7.86338985 Bulgaria_Northcentral 7.97129851 Bulgaria_Southcentral
Distance to: Cahul_2 3.48228373 Serb_north 3.58121488 Bosniak 3.83489244 Croat_South 3.88984576 Moldova_average 4.03732585 Romania_Moldavia_North 4.14288547 Moldova_Centre 4.20573418 Serb 4.52770361 Serb_central 4.68814462 Romania_Maramures 4.86178979 Moldova_North 5.15688860 Csángó 5.66170469 Croat_West 5.66218156 Croat 5.91814160 Croat_East 6.02821698 Székely 6.30620330 Hungarian_Transylvania 6.37727214 Romania_Moldavia_South 6.86619254 Romania_Crisana 7.10033098 Hungarian_Alföld 7.21888496 Romania_Transylvania 7.48561287 Serb_south 7.52394179 Romania_average 7.83792702 Montenegrin 7.99521107 Hungarian 8.15503525 Romania_Banat
Distance to: Cahul_1 6.78810725 Moldova_South 8.57315578 Moldova_average 8.57579151 Moldova_Centre 9.67942147 Moldova_Bulgarian 10.74002793 Moldova_South_Gagauzia 12.34558626 Moldova_North 15.67351588 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 21.34329169 Moldova_Ukrainian 22.04004310 Ukrainian_Lviv 23.22006891 Ukrainian 26.85663233 Moldova_Jewish 28.91188164 Russian_Smolensk 29.09640871 Crimean_Tatar 31.15764433 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar 34.29241024 Moldova_Roma 36.18799844 Russian_Pinega
Target: Cahul_1
Distance: 4.8781% / 4.87805567 | ADC: 0.25x RC
47.0 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
34.8 Moldova_Bulgarian
18.2 Moldova_Jewish
-Bulgarian, Jewish
Target: Cahul_1
Distance: 5.5243% / 5.52425400 | ADC: 0.25x RC
44.8 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
32.2 Moldova_South
23.0 Moldova_Jewish
-Jewish
Target: Cahul_1
Distance: 6.2763% / 6.27625037 | ADC: 0.25x RC
84.7 Moldova_South
15.3 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
-Ivano_Frankivsk
Target: Cahul_1
Distance: 6.5010% / 6.50099404 | ADC: 0.25x RC
91.2 Moldova_South
8.8 Moldova_Ukrainian
0.0 Crimean_Tatar
0.0 Moldova_average
0.0 Moldova_Centre
0.0 Moldova_North
0.0 Moldova_Roma
0.0 Moldova_South_Gagauzia
0.0 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
0.0 Russian_Pinega
0.0 Russian_Smolensk
0.0 Ukrainian
0.0 Ukrainian_Lviv
Distance to: Cahul_2 3.88984576 Moldova_average 4.14288547 Moldova_Centre 4.86178979 Moldova_North 8.76037100 Moldova_South 9.69795855 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 13.49104518 Moldova_South_Gagauzia 13.68229878 Moldova_Bulgarian 14.61683276 Ukrainian_Lviv 14.66735150 Moldova_Ukrainian 16.29474455 Ukrainian 21.91420088 Russian_Smolensk 27.41501596 Crimean_Tatar 28.27935820 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar 29.41556784 Russian_Pinega 33.50527421 Moldova_Jewish 36.10480162 Moldova_Roma
Target: Cahul_2
Distance: 2.3399% / 2.33990454 | ADC: 0.25x RC
40.8 Moldova_South
40.5 Ukrainian_Lviv
18.7 Moldova_Bulgarian
-Bulgarian
Target: Cahul_2
Distance: 2.5156% / 2.51562491 | ADC: 0.25x RC
63.2 Moldova_South
36.8 Ukrainian_Lviv
0.0 Crimean_Tatar
0.0 Moldova_average
0.0 Moldova_Centre
0.0 Moldova_Jewish
0.0 Moldova_North
0.0 Moldova_Roma
0.0 Moldova_South_Gagauzia
0.0 Moldova_Ukrainian
0.0 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
0.0 Russian_Pinega
0.0 Russian_Smolensk
0.0 Ukrainian
0.0 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
:oldFunnily enough, for both of them the algorithm picked Moldova_South instead of other regions and then assigned some Ukrainian and Bulgarian, both of which could be real, as there are many culturally assimilated folk there, which is obvious to me from the surnames in some villages.
Distance to: Cahul_1 5.09966666 Moldova_Cahul 5.16709783 Moldova_Causeni 5.72429035 Moldova_Cantemir 6.63125177 Moldova_Nisporeni 8.03430769 Moldova_Calarasi 8.13338183 Moldova_Hincesti 8.14411444 Moldova_Ungheni 8.31747558 Moldova_StefanVoda 8.49851752 Moldova_Ialoveni 8.92989362 Moldova_Leova 9.06444152 Moldova_Balti 9.25960042 Moldova_Cimislia 9.34368236 Moldova_Straseni 9.45215848 Moldova_Singerei 9.70296346 Moldova_Ocnita 9.94607460 Moldova_Bulgarian 10.06715948 Moldova_Falesti 10.29982039 Moldova_Chisinau 10.50550332 Moldova_Gagauzia 10.59627765 Moldova_Soldanesti 11.04629350 Moldova_Telenesti 12.18355039 Moldova_Orhei 12.48625244 Moldova_AneniiNoi 12.92835256 Moldova_Briceni 13.17877840 Moldova_Rezina
Distance to: Cahul_2 2.80658155 Moldova_Straseni 3.16567528 Moldova_Ialoveni 3.59001393 Moldova_Ocnita 4.05018518 Moldova_Singerei 4.17127079 Moldova_Telenesti 4.27352314 Moldova_Chisinau 4.41778225 Moldova_Balti 4.42696284 Moldova_Calarasi 4.83019668 Moldova_Falesti 5.31625808 Moldova_Hincesti 5.48460573 Moldova_Edinet 5.80025861 Moldova_Orhei 6.40078120 Moldova_Soldanesti 6.46199660 Moldova_Nisporeni 6.59399727 Moldova_Briceni 6.61794530 Moldova_Glodeni 6.82428751 Moldova_Cimislia 6.83621972 Moldova_Ungheni 7.08170177 Moldova_Cahul 7.45020134 Moldova_Transnistria 7.61431546 Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic 7.84711412 Moldova_Causeni 8.08032178 Moldova_AneniiNoi 8.48486299 Moldova_Rezina 10.14924628 Moldova_Floresti
The distant Romani didn't prevent them from having typically balanced components. 1/8 is distant in my book.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
I've received clarification on this one. While the individual was born in Bacau, parents come from Anghelesti in Vrancea, which just on the "border". Maybe that village has a history of Tatar/Cuman settlements, or maybe it's just an ocurrence on an individual level.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
Doesn't matter, is located on the border with Bacau county, a region historically influenced by Hungarians.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
Yes, that is a trend for some people there. And it can be a bit tricky at the beginning to distinguish between Hungarian and Romanian, because a lot of them don't identify as such.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
Remember the 22 or so Csangos that we have? None of them identifies as Hungarian/Csango but as Romanian or Catholic Romanian. The person that provided me with 20 kits confirmed that she knows that for some the grandparents spoke the Csango dialect, while for others it is more distant at great-grandparent level. They are aware that their ancestors were Hungarians, but don't see themselves as such. As she said, she didn't even know what a Csango was before doing the autosomal test and learning about them and then growing more interested to test other villagers.
But they are all Csangos from a genetic aspect, because they did not mix outside of those villages. And in their case it is easier to preserve their Csango mix undilluted, because they choose a partner according to their faith, which is Roman-Catholic. And in that region Roman-Catholics are almost exclusively Csangos/Hungarians. What also unites them is a genetic signal that is typical of populations that derive from partially inbred ancestors, like Jews for example.
That's why when someone has Csango ancestry, they will see a lot of such matches at the top, primarily from these kits because they are picked from about 4 major Roman-Catholic villages in Neamt county.
This is not the case for the individual from above, which makes me think that her East Asian/Siberian mix could be unrelated to Hungarians.
From Riscani (rural Ukrainian)
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 27.93 38.24 10.90 8.27 6.99 2.95 1.48 1.05 0.42 1.26 0 0.50 0
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Compared to the other Ukrainian from Riscani (2/4 Riscani, 1/4 Glodeni just on the "border" and 1/4 Poltava) that I have (different villages)
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 25.50 39.14 13.68 10.09 7.49 0.57 0.24 0.75 1.75 0 0.39 0.10 0.30
Distance to: Riscani_Ukrainian 3.49157558 Ukrainian_Galicia 4.70904449 Ukrainian_Carpathian 4.86954823 Slovak 5.72064682 Moldova_Ukrainian 5.88828498 South_Polish 6.37793070 Hungarian_Northern 6.60820702 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 6.79320248 Czech 6.92843417 Croat_North 7.44335274 Sorb_Lusatia 7.61000000 Slovenian 7.68363195 Croat_East 7.89595466 Hungarian_Alföld 8.21832100 Hungarian 8.22907042 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest 8.23327395 Ukrainian 8.57885190 Croat 9.06027042 Polish 9.10723888 Moldova_North 9.85839236 Masurian 10.21918294 Russian_Southwest 10.25522306 Ukrainian_Belgorod 10.41218997 Croat_West 10.67582784 Bosniak 10.82304948 Croat_South
Distance to: Riscani_Ukrainian 3.49157558 Ukrainian_Galicia 4.70904449 Ukrainian_Carpathian 4.74522918 Ukrainian_Lviv 5.72064682 Moldova_Ukrainian 6.60820702 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 8.23327395 Ukrainian 9.10723888 Moldova_North 10.25522306 Ukrainian_Belgorod 11.35532474 Russian_Smolensk 12.91230034 Moldova_Centre 13.14784013 Moldova_average 19.69397624 Moldova_South 20.08850495 Russian_Pinega 24.06837967 Moldova_South_Gagauzia 24.18836290 Moldova_Bulgarian 30.27048232 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar 31.20858696 Crimean_Tatar 42.26994322 Moldova_Roma 43.66941951 Moldova_Jewish
Target: Riscani_Ukrainian
Distance: 3.0108% / 3.01080072 | ADC: 0.25x RC
70.7 Ukrainian_Galicia
23.9 Ukrainian_Lviv
3.0 Moldova_Roma
2.4 Crimean_Tatar
-Roma
Target: Riscani_Ukrainian
Distance: 3.1278% / 3.12777058 | ADC: 0.25x RC
85.3 Ukrainian_Galicia
9.8 Ukrainian_Lviv
4.9 Crimean_Tatar
-Tatar
Target: Riscani_Ukrainian
Distance: 3.3404% / 3.34037278 | ADC: 0.25x RC
84.5 Ukrainian_Galicia
9.6 Moldova_Centre
5.9 Ukrainian_Belgorod
Distance to: Riscani_Ukrainian 3.49157558 Ukrainian_Galicia 4.70904449 Ukrainian_Carpathian 4.74522918 Ukrainian_Lviv 5.71205742 Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic 5.72064682 Moldova_Ukrainian 6.60820702 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 7.02258499 Moldova_Transnistria 7.13075732 Moldova_Rezina 8.23327395 Ukrainian 9.35714700 Moldova_Briceni 9.57935280 Moldova_Falesti 9.99450349 Moldova_Edinet 10.25522306 Ukrainian_Belgorod 10.29368739 Moldova_Glodeni 10.38870541 Moldova_Floresti 10.41320316 Moldova_Ocnita 10.56033143 Moldova_Orhei 10.62372345 Moldova_Telenesti 11.13404688 Moldova_Balti 11.35532474 Russian_Smolensk 11.69388729 Moldova_Chisinau 11.90408333 Moldova_AneniiNoi 12.09261345 Moldova_Straseni 12.26859405 Moldova_Soldanesti 12.41815606 Moldova_Singerei
Apricity user Art23 (1/2 Ukrainian from Vinnytsia, 1/2 Ukrainian-speaking Ukrainian from Chisinau, who he suspects could have been Ukrainianised Moldovan/Romanian ethnic)
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 21.88 39.32 12.60 8.80 12.61 0.88 0.39 0.38 0.99 0.82 1.34 0 0
Distance to: Art23 5.98939897 Ukrainian_Carpathian 6.02347076 Moldova_North 6.04254913 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 7.14919576 Croat_East 8.15983456 Ukrainian_Galicia 8.23719005 Bosniak 8.25487735 Moldova_Ukrainian 9.24573956 Croat 9.48653783 Croat_South 9.80773674 Moldova_Centre 9.87536835 Moldova_average 10.12045454 Hungarian_Northern 10.13772164 Romania_Moldavia_North 10.28163411 Croat_North 10.31139661 Serb_north 10.34980676 Hungarian_Alföld 10.67089968 Slovak 10.68082394 Ukrainian 10.70004206 Croat_West 11.42717813 Hungarian 11.62278366 South_Polish 11.63611619 Serb 11.71612137 Slovenian 11.89066441 Serb_central 12.02016223 Russian_Southwest
Distance to: Art23 5.98939897 Ukrainian_Carpathian 6.02347076 Moldova_North 6.04254913 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 7.74899994 Moldova_Ukrainian 8.15983456 Ukrainian_Galicia 9.75653627 Ukrainian_Lviv 9.80773674 Moldova_Centre 9.87536835 Moldova_average 10.52959164 Ukrainian 10.68082394 Ukrainian 15.06009960 Russian_Smolensk 16.14900926 Moldova_South 20.07613758 Moldova_South_Gagauzia 22.10202027 Moldova_Bulgarian 22.22756242 Russian_Pinega 29.08941216 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar 29.81761392 Crimean_Tatar 39.51811230 Moldova_Jewish 40.32578951 Moldova_Roma
Target: Art23
Distance: 3.1876% / 3.18763577 | ADC: 0.25x RC
52.7 Ukrainian_Belgorod
25.4 Moldova_North
13.7 Moldova_Jewish
8.2 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
-Jewish
Target: Art23
Distance: 3.7437% / 3.74374279 | ADC: 0.25x RC
54.2 Moldova_average
41.9 Ukrainian_Belgorod
3.9 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
-Belgorod
Target: Art23
Distance: 4.0999% / 4.09987336 | ADC: 0.25x RC
52.3 Moldova_average
47.7 Ukrainian
Distance to: Art23 5.28932888 Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic 5.92116543 Moldova_Briceni 5.98939897 Ukrainian_Carpathian 6.04254913 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 6.30559276 Moldova_Edinet 6.43757718 Moldova_Floresti 7.06867739 Moldova_AneniiNoi 7.16790067 Moldova_Soldanesti 7.41882740 Moldova_Glodeni 7.74899994 Moldova_Ukrainian 7.77645163 Moldova_Falesti 8.15983456 Ukrainian_Galicia 8.17443576 Moldova_Chisinau 8.37120063 Moldova_Orhei 8.58694358 Moldova_Singerei 8.61788257 Moldova_Rezina 8.76335552 Moldova_Balti 9.38104472 Moldova_Ocnita 9.42522679 Moldova_Telenesti 9.75653627 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.04416746 Moldova_Transnistria 10.41270858 Moldova_Ialoveni 10.49814746 Moldova_Straseni 10.68082394 Ukrainian 11.34269809 Moldova_Nisporeni
From Bacau
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 23.99 25.75 19.11 11.87 15.35 1.65 0.26 0 1.75 0.17 0.10 0 0
Compared to others from Bacau
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 20.27 29.07 15.56 13.35 16.72 2.23 0 0.16 0.76 0.72 1.14 0 0 25.87 26.84 16.97 10.82 15.72 1.10 0.45 0.17 0.89 0 0.85 0 0.32 22.55 24.80 21.31 8.66 17.58 1.89 0 0 0.34 1.46 1.29 0.10 0 20.62 26.86 20.13 11.88 14.52 1.60 0.89 0 0.98 1.42 1.11 0 0 21.74 29.09 17.75 6.85 19.55 3.31 0 0.17 1.17 0.36 0 0 0 22.08 27.48 18.09 4.49 22.76 1.90 0.19 2.09 0.46 0 0.19 0.28 0 27.65 28.32 15.21 12.81 7.97 2.20 2.90 0 0.30 1.48 0 0 1.15 20.68 27.83 15.95 11.59 17.86 2.79 0 0.93 0 1.93 0.45 0 0 24.74 24.26 16.57 10.63 17.44 2.73 1.35 1.46 0 0.60 0.21 0 0 24.37 27.43 14.81 10.05 14.49 3.20 2.96 0.37 0.96 0.79 0.51 0 0.06 24.24 27.89 14.20 9.72 16.82 3.08 0 1.03 1.49 0.28 0.76 0 0.48 23.04 29.67 14.32 8.00 19.96 3.18 0 0.19 1.18 0 0.29 0 0.17 20.76 27.29 21.65 10.28 16.69 0.23 0 1.47 0.13 0.62 0.86 0 0
Distance to: Bacau_ind 3.14525039 Montenegrin 3.14569547 Romania_Transylvania 3.33721441 Romania_average 3.37761750 Romania_Banat 3.39141563 Romania_Oltenia 3.61033239 Romania_Moldavia_South 3.62774034 Bosniak_Sandzak 3.65503762 Romania_Crisana 4.15066260 Moldova_South 4.25028234 Romania_Wallachia 4.31403523 Romania_Dobruja 4.32202499 Bulgaria_Southwestern 4.63962283 Serb_south 4.69052236 Romania_Maramures 4.71488070 Romania_Muntenia 5.00204958 Bulgaria_Northwestern 5.17995174 Serb 5.31619225 Bulgaria_average 5.48928046 Serb_central 5.78996546 Bulgaria_Northcentral 6.27019936 Bulgaria_Northeastern 6.27211288 Bulgaria_Southcentral 6.33704979 Moldova_average 6.51699317 Serb_north 6.64192743 Moldova_Centre
Distance to: Bacau_ind 3.14569547 Romania_Transilvania 3.37761750 Romania_Banat 3.39141563 Romania_Oltenia 3.56728188 Romania_average 3.61033239 Romania_Moldova_Sud 3.65503762 Romania_Crisana 4.31403523 Romania_Dobrogea 4.69052236 Romania_Maramures 4.71488070 Romania_Muntenia 5.87258887 Bulgarian 6.73534706 Romania_Moldova_Nord 7.96361990 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely 8.21203385 Romania_Moldova_Csango 8.44981657 Aromanian_North-Macedonia 8.50629767 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian 9.42079084 Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander 13.75840107 Aromanian_Central-Macedonia 14.77360146 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon 15.82083120 Romania_Ukrainian 15.91235683 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 21.15769127 Ukrainian_Lviv 25.98760089 Crimean_Tatar 28.57170278 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar 28.88111147 Romania_Jewish 32.59515608 Romania_Roma
Target: Bacau_ind
Distance: 2.7331% / 2.73314292 | ADC: 0.25x RC
40.3 Romania_Crisana
30.7 Aromanian_North-Macedonia
16.2 Romania_Banat
10.0 Ukrainian_Lviv
2.8 Crimean_Tatar
-Aromanian, Ukrainian
Target: Bacau_ind
Distance: 2.9575% / 2.95746674 | ADC: 0.25x RC
49.4 Romania_Banat
48.1 Romania_Crisana
2.5 Crimean_Tatar
-Crisana
Target: Bacau_ind
Distance: 3.0561% / 3.05614093 | ADC: 0.25x RC
74.4 Romania_Transilvania
12.9 Romania_Banat
10.7 Romania_Oltenia
2.0 Crimean_Tatar
Likes to push to the West.
Distance to: Bacau_ind 3.08535249 Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea 3.75872319 Romania_Moldavia_Bacau 3.79365259 Romania_Moldavia_Neamt 4.20639989 Romania_Moldavia_Galati 4.86177951 Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui 5.11804650 Romania_Moldavia_Iasi 7.94382150 Romania_Moldavia_3/4Romanian_1/4Roma 8.32799496 Romania_Moldavia_Botosani 8.44197844 Romania_Moldavia_Csango 8.69543558 Romania_Moldavia_Suceava 15.82083120 Romania_Ukrainian 28.88111147 Romania_Moldavia_Jewish
From Vrancea
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 24.25 24.30 18.66 11.37 17.11 0.63 1.57 0 1.23 0.61 0.27 0 0
Compared to others from Vrancea
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 22.67 23.88 15.52 12.44 17.04 3.22 1.84 1.26 1.59 0.16 0.39 0 0 23.92 23.07 20.63 9.31 15.68 1.32 2.74 1.52 0.53 1.01 0 0.15 0.13 20.65 26.70 17.19 10.49 19.25 2.39 0.44 0.37 0.84 1.01 0.08 0.59 0 24.82 25.71 16.34 11.11 14.35 0.58 0.28 0 4.87 0.86 0.23 0.28 0.57
Distance to: Vrancea_ind 2.36273147 Romania_Oltenia 2.48372704 Bosniak_Sandzak 2.88055550 Montenegrin 2.91886964 Romania_Transylvania 2.92982935 Romania_Banat 3.03478171 Bulgaria_Southwestern 3.08220700 Romania_average 3.21152612 Romania_Wallachia 3.49017192 Romania_Dobruja 3.54526445 Romania_Crisana 3.67285992 Romania_Muntenia 3.84092437 Romania_Moldavia_South 3.86517787 Moldova_South 4.15289056 Bulgaria_average 4.39093384 Serb_south 4.43309147 Bulgaria_Northwestern 4.69730774 Bulgaria_Northcentral 4.99353582 Bulgaria_Southcentral 5.00137981 Bulgaria_Northeastern 5.50245400 Romania_Maramures 5.65687617 Macednia_north 5.89251220 MACEDONIAN_AVERAGE 6.25233556 Serb 6.26575614 Pomak_Bulgaria 6.34617995 Serb_central
Distance to: Vrancea_ind 2.36273147 Romania_Oltenia 2.91886964 Romania_Transilvania 2.92982935 Romania_Banat 3.19494914 Romania_average 3.49017192 Romania_Dobrogea 3.54526445 Romania_Crisana 3.67285992 Romania_Muntenia 3.84092437 Romania_Moldova_Sud 4.58967319 Bulgarian 5.50245400 Romania_Maramures 7.41081642 Aromanian_North-Macedonia 7.77873383 Romania_Moldova_Nord 8.03805325 Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander 8.74064787 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely 9.17644267 Romania_Moldova_Csango 9.36136208 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian 12.14655507 Aromanian_Central-Macedonia 14.70247938 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon 17.09289033 Romania_Ukrainian 17.23960266 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 22.85586796 Ukrainian_Lviv 26.40022727 Crimean_Tatar 26.89157117 Romania_Jewish 29.46471110 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar 30.96298758 Romania_Roma
Target: Vrancea_ind
Distance: 1.9397% / 1.93970901 | ADC: 0.25x RC
84.8 Romania_Oltenia
7.3 Romania_Transilvania_Saxon
4.3 Romania_Crisana
3.6 Romania_Roma
-Saxon, Roma
Target: Vrancea_ind
Distance: 2.1794% / 2.17937878 | ADC: 0.25x RC
48.3 Romania_Crisana
39.3 Romania_Oltenia
10.3 Aromanian_Central-Macedonia
2.1 Crimean_Tatar
-Aromanian
Target: Vrancea_ind
Distance: 2.3080% / 2.30799834 | ADC: 0.25x RC
84.2 Romania_Oltenia
15.8 Romania_Crisana
-Oltenia, Crisana
Target: Vrancea_ind
Distance: 2.7107% / 2.71069114 | ADC: 0.25x RC
69.6 Romania_Transilvania
30.4 Romania_Muntenia
Distance to: Vrancea_ind 2.60990421 Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea 2.96546792 Romania_Moldavia_Galati 4.30808542 Romania_Moldavia_Bacau 4.54400704 Romania_Moldavia_Neamt 5.80717659 Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui 5.89693141 Romania_Moldavia_Iasi 6.46375278 Romania_Moldavia_3/4Romanian_1/4Roma 9.35155067 Romania_Moldavia_Botosani 9.78407890 Romania_Moldavia_Suceava 9.81271624 Romania_Moldavia_Csango 17.09289033 Romania_Ukrainian 26.89157117 Romania_Moldavia_Jewish
From Glodeni (1/2 Hijdieni Glodeni, 1/2 Cernoleuca Donduseni)
98 cM match of our other guy from Glodeni, so they share either a great-grandparent or gg-grandparent.
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 18.83 35.80 15.59 10.88 11.39 1.98 1.46 0.60 1.77 1.37 0.20 0 0.12
Compared to others from Glodeni (his cousin)
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 21.77 34.40 15.61 12.12 9.73 1.40 0 0.83 2.20 1.11 0.82 0 0
Distance to: Glodeni_ind 5.61578133 Moldova_North 7.72633807 Moldova_average 7.78569843 Bosniak 7.88043781 Moldova_Centre 8.85633107 Romania_Moldavia_North 8.85931149 Croat_East 9.16265791 Serb_north 9.34378938 Croat_South 9.38620797 Ukrainian_Carpathian 9.77733092 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 9.95726870 Serb 10.34207426 Croat 10.48472699 Serb_central 10.50382311 Romania_Maramures 11.09644538 Csángó-Ceangău 11.41885721 Croat_West 11.62286970 Hungarian_Alföld 11.78093799 Ukrainian_Galicia 11.89789897 Romania_Moldavia_South 12.22605415 Croat_North 12.27487678 Székely 12.39448264 Serb_south 12.50796146 Romania_average 12.66948302 Hungarian_Transylvania 12.78990227 Hungarian
Kind of a poor distance because of his low North Atlantic value. I think his cousin faces the same issue, because the Moldova_North average (below) is slightly more Northern, specifically Northwestern. Might need readjusting at some point.
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 23.76 34.32 14.70 9.76 12.20 1.53 0.33 0.50 1.73 0.48 0.32 0.04 0.32
Distance to: Glodeni_ind 5.61578133 Moldova_North 7.72633807 Moldova_average 7.88043781 Moldova_Centre 9.38620797 Ukrainian_Carpathian 9.77733092 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 11.78093799 Ukrainian_Galicia 12.22851585 Moldova_Ukrainian 13.01743830 Moldova_South 16.50634726 Moldova_South_Gagauzia 16.79916069 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.70515704 Moldova_Bulgarian 19.47590819 Russian_Smolensk 25.72917762 Russian_Pinega 26.29024724 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar 26.30327166 Crimean_Tatar 36.41503948 Moldova_Roma 36.86979251 Moldova_Jewish
Target: Glodeni_ind
Distance: 5.0727% / 5.07269332 | ADC: 0.25x RC
79.2 Moldova_North
11.1 Ukrainian_Belgorod
5.4 Moldova_Roma
4.3 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
-Roma
Target: Glodeni_ind
Distance: 5.3050% / 5.30501687 | ADC: 0.25x RC
89.0 Moldova_North
6.5 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
4.5 Ukrainian_Belgorod
-Romanian_Tatar
Target: Glodeni_ind
Distance: 5.3139% / 5.31392165 | ADC: 0.25x RC
86.4 Moldova_North
6.8 Crimean_Tatar
6.8 Ukrainian_Belgorod
-Crimean_Tatar
Target: Glodeni_ind
Distance: 5.5761% / 5.57609552 | ADC: 0.25x RC
97.4 Moldova_North
2.6 Russian_Pinega
Distance to: Glodeni_ind 4.18247534 Moldova_Edinet 4.25081169 Moldova_Glodeni 6.32063288 Moldova_Chisinau 6.48718737 Moldova_Briceni 6.83591984 Moldova_Orhei 6.84561173 Moldova_Singerei 7.09701346 Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic 7.23738903 Moldova_Soldanesti 7.66911338 Moldova_Telenesti 7.79457504 Moldova_AneniiNoi 7.90548544 Moldova_Straseni 8.25476832 Moldova_Balti 8.29970481 Moldova_Ialoveni 8.39045887 Moldova_Falesti 8.70753697 Moldova_Ocnita 8.83133059 Moldova_Hincesti 8.86210472 Moldova_Cimislia 9.81906309 Moldova_Floresti 9.99943998 Moldova_Calarasi 10.04462543 Moldova_Ungheni 10.63733519 Moldova_Transnistria 11.20072319 Moldova_Nisporeni 11.41793764 Moldova_Rezina 12.22851585 Moldova_Ukrainian 12.84753673 Moldova_Causeni
Good distances to Edinet and Glodeni, though they don't have many samples, 2 and 1 respectively.
Surnames are almost all Moldovan/Romanian in Hijdieni btw, which is quite a rarity for that region.Quote:
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Nr. Ord. Nume de familie Numarul total de familii
1 Pogor 58
2 Stelea 30
3 Chirica 19
4 Eladi 18
5 Tarita 18
6 Tropotel 17
7 Carcea 16
8 Jalba 15
9 Sprincean 15
10 Carp 15
11 Cebanu 15
12 Burdea 14
13 Cucu 14
14 Rabei 13
15 Ciobanu 13
16 Leahu 13
17 Palii 12
18 Poting 11
19 Grama 11
20 Ceban 11
21 Juric 10
22 Eladii 9
23 Darii 9
24 Gadarautan 9
25 Movila 9
26 Rusu 8
27 Lupascu 8
28 Lupusor 8
29 Postolachi 7
30 Cucos 7
31 Chiriac 7
32 Cojocaru 6
33 Buzdugan 6
34 Voitic 6
35 Babian 6
36 Grosu 6
37 Birsan 6
38 Cazacu 6
39 Bumbac 6
40 Gurita 6
41 Margarint 6
42 Martin 6
43 Vatamanu 6
44 Tudos 5
45 Dulghieru 5
46 Bilici 5
47 Ungureanu 5
48 Cretu 5
49 Vataman 5
50 Stantieru 5
In Cernoleuca, despite identifying as almost exclusively Moldovan/Romanian, they are more visibly non-Moldovan and typical for the region. Gheorghe Zamfir was right in his records from early 20th century.
"CERNOLEUCA, sat, în jud. Soroca, volostea Climăuţi. Dealul de lângă sat are o înălţime de 113,5 stânj. d'asupra n. m.; biserică; şcoală cu o clasă de Zemstvo; vitele satului - 270 capete: cai 140, oi 370; populaţiunea 1249 suflete ţărani români şi ruteni."
Nr. Ord. Nume de familie Numarul total de familii
1 Lisnic 46
2 Cernei 39
3 Turcan 19
4 Botnari 18
5 Moroz 16
6 Ceban 13
7 Capatina 11
8 Cucer 11
9 Malai 11
10 Mazureac 11
11 Puscas 10
12 Rosca 10
13 Flocos 10
14 Cervaciuc 9
15 Batrin 9
16 Glavan 9
17 Cazaciuc 9
18 Ojovan 8
19 Vieri 8
20 Vrancean 8
21 Molosniuc 7
22 Cojocari 7
23 Cosmariuc 6
24 Timba 5
25 Puzdrea 5
26 Motreac 5
27 Pinzari 5
28 Rusanovschi 5
29 Scurtu 4
30 Labunea 4
31 Traci 4
32 Deleu 4
33 Bejenari 4
34 Rusanovscaia 4
35 Rusanovschii 4
36 Alexiuc 4
37 Mazuriac 3
38 Burlac 3
39 Grusco 3
40 Vieru 3
41 Godorojea 3
42 Vovcu 3
43 Lungu 3
44 Gorcinschi 3
45 Buga 3
46 Taralunga 3
47 Arapu 2
48 Burda 2
49 Vasilevschi 2
50 Bolocan 2
I've done some ancestry extractions for some of the mixed people in the database, just for my own entertainment. Obviously, these are not going into the averages.
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Name N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan Minus 1/2 Ukrainian (with MD Ukrainian average), Chisinau 22.09 32.21 16.97 8.34 13.10 1.55 1.12 1.75 1.47 0.53 0.87 0 0 Minus 1/2 Zakarpatskyi Ukrainian, 1/2 North Moldova (unspecified locality) 24.60 33.99 15.26 8.47 12.42 1.40 0.23 0.42 1.70 0.64 0.75 0 0.12 Minus 1/4 Roma, Nisporeni 25.53 29.10 14.80 11.43 14.52 0.46 0.65 1.02 1.36 0.07 0.60 0.45 0 Minus 1/2 Bulgarian (with MD Bulgarian average), South Moldova (unspecified locality) 20.29 31.97 13.99 10.54 16.96 1.62 0.77 1.28 0.83 1.02 0.51 0.22 0 Minus 1/2 Russian average, Chisinau 23.42 29.30 15.29 9.86 14.75 3.12 1.10 0.32 1.37 0.95 0.52 0 0 Minus 10/16 Ukrainian (with Riscani Ukrainian average), Balti 23.93 32.67 13.70 10.46 14.27 1.56 0.15 1.75 2.79 0 0 0.22 0 Minus 1/2 South Polish, Drochia (Pelinia) 22.56 31.75 14.12 9.90 11.66 2.99 2.00 1.55 1.71 0.29 1.13 0.12 0.22 Minus 1/2 Vinnytsia (with Zhytomyrska average), Chisinau 21.33 28.76 16.81 10.05 17.77 1.39 0 1.25 0.88 1.11 0.65 0 0 Minus 1/2 Ukrainian (wih Riscani Ukrainian average), Chisinau 25.02 28.80 16.24 8.75 15.57 1.51 1.24 0 1.79 0.41 0.39 0 0.18
From Singerei
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 24.47 34.41 16.08 7.67 11.63 1.84 0.48 0 2.71 0 0.71 0 0
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 25.81 33.39 14.59 8.56 11.04 1.78 0.45 1.13 0.97 0 1.61 0 0.68 19.29 30.14 16.78 10.68 19.18 0.74 0 1.61 0.06 0.67 0.87 0 0 23.18 31.34 14.97 9.87 13.15 1.89 1.16 0.39 1.93 1.14 0.15 0 0.83
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Distance to: Singerei_ind 2.98749059 Moldova_North 3.71533309 Croat_East 4.05060489 Bosniak 4.45424517 Croat_South 4.61129049 Croat 5.51907601 Serb_north 5.69389146 Hungarian_Alföld 5.70735490 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 5.73234681 Ukrainian_Carpathian 5.83686560 Croat_West 5.89802509 Romania_Moldavia_North 5.99753283 Moldova_average 6.03368876 Moldova_Centre 6.23716282 Csángó-Ceangău 6.51167413 Croat_North 6.84496165 Serb 6.90277480 Hungarian 7.04015625 Serb_central 7.23103727 Hungarian_Northern 7.30620969 Székely 7.47279733 Hungarian_Transylvania 7.73343391 Romania_Maramures 7.80568383 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest 8.01130451 Slovenian 8.68961449 Ukrainian_Galicia
Distance to: Singerei_ind 2.98749059 Moldova_North 5.70735490 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 5.73234681 Ukrainian_Carpathian 5.99753283 Moldova_average 6.03368876 Moldova_Centre 8.68961449 Ukrainian_Galicia 10.78900830 Moldova_Ukrainian 12.20492524 Moldova_South 16.72413525 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.85344475 Moldova_South_Gagauzia 17.58164384 Moldova_Bulgarian 18.27720712 Russian_Smolensk 25.27109775 Russian_Pinega 27.73538895 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar 28.14037313 Crimean_Tatar 36.81363470 Moldova_Jewish 38.24823656 Moldova_Roma
Target: Singerei_ind
Distance: 2.3341% / 2.33409319 | ADC: 0.25x RC
66.5 Ukrainian_Carpathian
27.4 Moldova_South
3.4 Moldova_North
2.7 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
-Ukrainian_Carpathian
Target: Singerei_ind
Distance: 2.5551% / 2.55514697 | ADC: 0.25x RC
41.8 Ukrainian_Galicia
30.7 Moldova_North
27.5 Moldova_South
-Ukrainian_Galicia
Target: Singerei_ind
Distance: 2.9072% / 2.90722537 | ADC: 0.25x RC
96.2 Moldova_North
1.9 Moldova_Ukrainian
1.9 Russian_Pinega
Distance to: Singerei_ind 3.84620592 Moldova_Ocnita 4.04890109 Moldova_Edinet 4.19958331 Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic 4.28204390 Moldova_Falesti 4.69289889 Moldova_Balti 5.03611954 Moldova_Chisinau 5.13605880 Moldova_Soldanesti 5.24229911 Moldova_Briceni 5.29663100 Moldova_Singerei 5.31857124 Moldova_Straseni 5.40351737 Moldova_Telenesti 5.57640565 Moldova_Orhei 5.60038392 Moldova_AneniiNoi 5.78904137 Moldova_Transnistria 5.99884989 Moldova_Ialoveni 6.05080160 Moldova_Glodeni 6.15762941 Moldova_Rezina 7.07272932 Moldova_Calarasi 7.92403306 Moldova_Nisporeni 8.28150952 Moldova_Cimislia 8.38484943 Moldova_Hincesti 8.79936930 Moldova_Floresti 9.55477368 Moldova_Ukrainian 9.64893777 Moldova_Ungheni 10.56034090 Moldova_Cahul
Town?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
Not urban, but this person matches with some Ukrainians closer than with Moldovans, which could indicate a not so distant geneflow. But his results are near the average for the region, so it's not that surprising.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
Home village of this person is neighbouring the village of my mother.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
Yes, I noticed that too. Your mom's autosomal profile could turn out to be either very similar or somewhat different. We don't have the luxury of owning many kits from the same village or neighbouring villages, so the best that we've got so far with a comparatively large sample size are those from Caplani in Stefan Voda. And if those are of any indication, people who live nearby can score quite differently from one another.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
Just to update you guys on the status of the project.
I have about 50 more samples waiting to be posted into this thread, and about the same for those threads for Transylvania and Wallachia. I do not rush this by simply dumping everything at once in a table, as I enjoy the process of looking at every individual in detail.
From Soldanesti (Russian or Belarusian surname, but ethnically Moldovan/Romanian)
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 23.79 31.29 16.16 10.22 14.34 1.42 0.30 1.48 0 0 0.99 0 0
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 22.78 33.73 15.02 8.09 15.57 0.30 0.50 0.55 1.55 0.18 0.30 0 1.42
Distance to: Soldanesti_ind 2.40908696 Moldova_average 2.44669164 Serb_north 2.63353375 Moldova_Centre 2.73183089 Bosniak 2.90571850 Romania_Moldavia_North 3.18634587 Serb 3.64899986 Croat_South 3.65230064 Serb_central 3.78167952 Romania_Maramures 4.56663990 Moldova_North 5.49226729 Romania_Moldavia_South 5.76495447 Croat_West 6.02521369 Croat_East 6.07978618 Romania_Crisana 6.09456315 Croat 6.29171678 Csángó-Ceangău 6.30717052 Serb_south 6.34035488 Romania_Transylvania 6.37024332 Székely 6.44959689 Romania_average 6.99857128 Hungarian_Transylvania 7.13611939 Romania_Banat 7.25234445 Montenegrin 7.49244953 Bulgaria_Northwestern 7.51435959 Romania_Oltenia
Distance to: Soldanesti_ind 2.40908696 Moldova_average 2.63353375 Moldova_Centre 4.56663990 Moldova_North 7.79496632 Moldova_South 9.88851354 Ukrainian_Carpathian 9.99873992 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 12.20762467 Moldova_South_Gagauzia 12.83455102 Ukrainian_Galicia 13.34618672 Moldova_Bulgarian 14.92336423 Moldova_Ukrainian 18.18590663 Ukrainian 20.31121857 Ukrainian_Belgorod 22.43578392 Russian_Smolensk 27.15956369 Crimean_Tatar 28.51678628 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar 30.13004615 Russian_Pinega 32.48219512 Moldova_Jewish 35.40776045 Moldova_Roma
Target: Soldanesti_ind
Distance: 2.2277% / 2.22767165 | ADC: 0.25x RC
93.2 Moldova_average
6.8 Ukrainian_Galicia
-Ukrainians
Target: Soldanesti_ind
Distance: 2.2565% / 2.25649018 | ADC: 0.25x RC
82.5 Moldova_average
17.5 Moldova_North
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Distance to: Soldanesti_ind 2.46083319 Moldova_Singerei 2.59921142 Moldova_Ialoveni 2.88766342 Moldova_Chisinau 3.41885946 Moldova_Balti 3.64950682 Moldova_Straseni 4.05585996 Moldova_Falesti 4.08071072 Moldova_Calarasi 4.13376342 Moldova_Ocnita 4.27475145 Moldova_Telenesti 4.62707251 Moldova_Soldanesti 4.66536172 Moldova_Orhei 4.72793824 Moldova_Nisporeni 4.85816838 Moldova_Hincesti 4.86845972 Moldova_Ungheni 5.19606582 Moldova_Cimislia 5.39844422 Moldova_Briceni 5.67856496 Moldova_Edinet 6.31843335 Moldova_Causeni 6.80969162 Moldova_Cahul 7.03588658 Moldova_Glodeni 7.66285847 Moldova_AneniiNoi 7.96008794 Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic 8.38352551 Moldova_Transnistria 8.41471925 Moldova_Rezina 8.55216932 Moldova_Floresti
From MD?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
Most are from the Romanian side. For Moldova, I still have 11 samples, out of which 3 are an Ukrainian family who came from Ternopil in Soviet times, 4 are awaiting confirmation on their grandparents' origins and 4 are Moldovans/Romanians. They come from 1) Chisinau, 2) Briceni, 3) Cantemir, 4) 3/4 Donduseni, 1/4 Drochia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
The last one is very weird and looks more like a Hungarian or Austrian.
From Chisinau
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 22.49 27.36 14.31 8.07 17.63 3.21 2.49 0.61 2.59 0.41 0 0.81 0
Distance to: Chisinau_ind 4.64815017 Romania_Moldavia_South 4.83349770 Serb_south 4.91928857 Romania_Maramures 5.00659565 Romania_average 5.29409105 Romania_Transylvania 5.29816950 Moldova_Centre 5.29863190 Bulgaria_Northwestern 5.34429602 Romania_Banat 5.52821852 Moldova_average 5.57819863 Romania_Moldavia_North 5.75203442 Romania_Dobruja 5.75760367 Serb_central 5.85746532 Serb 5.88603432 Moldova_South 5.95139479 Romania_Wallachia 5.99719101 Romania_Crisana 6.03406165 Romania_Oltenia 6.13132123 Romania_Muntenia 6.21020128 Montenegrin 6.67284047 Serb_north 6.69479649 Bulgaria_Southwestern 6.81610593 Bulgaria_Northcentral 6.92123544 Bulgaria_average 7.13218760 Bosniak_Sandzak 7.44105503 Pomak_Bulgaria
Distance to: Chisinau_ind 5.29816950 Moldova_Centre 5.52821852 Moldova_average 5.88603432 Moldova_South 9.57026123 Moldova_North 9.60134366 Moldova_South_Gagauzia 10.39623970 Moldova_Bulgarian 13.90365060 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 14.25618462 Ukrainian_Carpathian 17.40257452 Ukrainian_Galicia 19.20754800 Moldova_Ukrainian 22.45602146 Ukrainian 24.66555696 Ukrainian_Belgorod 24.87649895 Crimean_Tatar 26.67919601 Russian_Smolensk 26.77477171 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar 27.55213059 Moldova_Jewish 31.17605491 Moldova_Roma 32.93580622 Russian_Pinega
Target: Chisinau_ind
Distance: 1.4533% / 1.45329225 | ADC: 0.25x RC
56.6 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
25.6 Moldova_Jewish
6.6 Moldova_Roma
5.6 Moldova_Centre
5.6 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
-Jewish, Ukrainians
Target: Chisinau_ind
Distance: 3.8686% / 3.86860976 | ADC: 0.25x RC
60.1 Moldova_Centre
32.2 Moldova_South
5.4 Moldova_Roma
2.3 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
-Roma
Target: Chisinau_ind
Distance: 4.1553% / 4.15528969 | ADC: 0.25x RC
50.7 Moldova_Centre
44.9 Moldova_South
4.4 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
Distance to: Chisinau_ind 5.22026819 Moldova_Cimislia 5.36133379 Moldova_Nisporeni 5.51356509 Moldova_Ungheni 5.65362715 Moldova_Causeni 5.91653615 Moldova_Cahul 5.96913729 Moldova_Ialoveni 6.00050831 Moldova_Hincesti 6.19416661 Moldova_Calarasi 6.24757553 Moldova_Leova 6.39555314 Moldova_Balti 6.72787485 Moldova_Chisinau 7.03577999 Moldova_Straseni 7.20465128 Moldova_StefanVoda 7.25408850 Moldova_Singerei 7.85734688 Moldova_Soldanesti 8.07496749 Moldova_Falesti 8.29831308 Moldova_Telenesti 9.09701599 Moldova_Ocnita 9.24596669 Moldova_Orhei 9.38707622 Moldova_Gagauzia 9.64088689 Moldova_Cantemir 9.78107867 Moldova_Briceni 9.80666610 Moldova_AneniiNoi 10.16104325 Moldova_Bulgarian 10.50219977 Moldova_Edinet
From Cantemir
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 23.37 29.63 18.88 7.42 15.59 1.27 0.18 2.08 0.93 0 0.35 0.31 0
Compared to others from Cantemir
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 25.66 20.54 19.38 7.46 19.11 3.14 0 1.73 1.97 0 0.31 0.71 0
Distance to: Cantemir_ind 3.46153145 Serb 3.48816571 Serb_central 3.59745744 Romania_Maramures 4.08525397 Serb_north 4.79854145 Romania_Moldavia_South 4.84112590 Moldova_average 4.86959957 Serb_south 4.97604260 Romania_Moldavia_North 4.97977911 Romania_Crisana 5.16119172 Moldova_Centre 5.38545263 Romania_Transylvania 5.55867790 Romania_average 5.57669257 Bosniak 5.58678799 Croat_South 5.98879788 Montenegrin 6.03966887 Romania_Banat 6.21773271 Bulgaria_Northwestern 6.34154555 Romania_Oltenia 6.61869322 Moldova_South 6.70180573 Bosniak_Sandzak 7.02948078 Romania_Dobruja 7.06603142 Székely 7.18707173 Romania_Wallachia 7.25166877 Croat_West 7.65326728 Csángó-Ceangău
Distance to: Cantemir_ind 4.84112590 Moldova_average 5.16119172 Moldova_Centre 6.61869322 Moldova_South 7.76024484 Moldova_North 11.39337088 Moldova_South_Gagauzia 11.77367402 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 12.31793408 Ukrainian_Carpathian 12.33949351 Moldova_Bulgarian 15.37614061 Ukrainian_Galicia 17.38043153 Moldova_Ukrainian 20.66909771 Ukrainian 23.36451155 Ukrainian_Belgorod 25.04168924 Russian_Smolensk 27.68951246 Crimean_Tatar 28.81402610 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar 30.68596748 Moldova_Jewish 32.16258511 Russian_Pinega 35.20564301 Moldova_Roma
Target: Cantemir_ind
Distance: 3.4030% / 3.40304106 | ADC: 0.25x RC
66.5 Moldova_South
33.5 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
-Ukrainians
Target: Cantemir_ind
Distance: 3.9025% / 3.90248313 | ADC: 0.25x RC
76.0 Moldova_South
24.0 Moldova_Ukrainian
-Moldova_Ukrainian
Target: Cantemir_ind
Distance: 4.2907% / 4.29067771 | ADC: 0.25x RC
56.2 Moldova_South
43.8 Moldova_North
-Moldova_North
Target: Cantemir_ind
Distance: 4.1492% / 4.14920182 | ADC: 0.25x RC
82.7 Moldova_South
17.3 Russian_Smolensk
Distance to: Cantemir_ind 4.05433102 Moldova_Hincesti 4.96087694 Moldova_Soldanesti 5.05548217 Moldova_Cahul 5.13088686 Moldova_Cantemir 5.22764765 Moldova_Singerei 5.25586339 Moldova_Ialoveni 5.47536300 Moldova_Ocnita 5.62481111 Moldova_Straseni 5.76927205 Moldova_Ungheni 5.83681420 Moldova_Causeni 5.92280339 Moldova_Balti 6.03778105 Moldova_Nisporeni 6.09280723 Moldova_Chisinau 6.21930864 Moldova_Calarasi 6.26087055 Moldova_Cimislia 6.82926057 Moldova_Falesti 7.73561245 Moldova_Telenesti 8.03401519 Moldova_AneniiNoi 8.21644692 Moldova_Orhei 8.67319434 Moldova_StefanVoda 8.73012600 Moldova_Edinet 8.91697819 Moldova_Leova 9.06375198 Moldova_Briceni 9.85730693 Moldova_Glodeni 10.74739503 Moldova_Transnistria
From Chisinau (Donated by Leto; Chisinau Ukrainians, originally from Ternopil oblast)
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 25.89 39.45 10.64 7.16 11.18 1.18 2.65 1.59 0 0.24 0 0 0 22.30 39.61 14.64 8.35 12.65 0 0.69 1.44 0 0 0.29 0 0 26.32 39.03 9.91 6.40 10.88 1.70 3.86 0.62 0.91 0.37 0 0 0
Distance to: Moldova_Ukrainian_1 4.12998789 Ukrainian_Carpathian 4.57229702 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 5.22218345 Ukrainian_Galicia 5.44941281 Moldova_Ukrainian 6.97642459 Croat_East 7.14327656 Slovak 7.15784185 Hungarian_Northern 7.76562940 South_Polish 8.06769484 Moldova_North 8.09884560 Croat_North 8.30996390 Ukrainian 8.48011792 Croat 8.71409204 Hungarian_Alföld 9.06135751 Slovenian 9.34795165 Sorb_Lusatia 9.35621184 Hungarian 9.39298675 Bosniak 9.53368239 Czech 9.84528821 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest 10.02201577 Russian_Southwest 10.02302848 Croat_South 10.02438028 Croat_West 10.42109879 Ukrainian_Belgorod 11.01764040 Polish 11.40304784 Romania_Moldavia_North
Distance to: Moldova_Ukrainian_2 5.72281399 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 6.05233013 Ukrainian_Carpathian 6.24437347 Moldova_North 7.19255170 Croat_East 8.03886186 Bosniak 8.23916865 Ukrainian_Galicia 8.48940516 Moldova_Ukrainian 8.95778432 Croat 9.14679179 Croat_South 9.94745194 Hungarian_Northern 9.97134394 Moldova_average 9.97178520 Moldova_Centre 9.98201883 Serb_north 9.99470860 Croat_North 10.13059228 Hungarian_Alföld 10.19909800 Romania_Moldavia_North 10.37586141 Croat_West 10.52538360 Slovak 11.00461721 Ukrainian 11.25668690 Hungarian 11.29764135 Slovenian 11.30799717 Serb 11.54852804 Serb_central 11.62713636 South_Polish 12.02749766 Csángó-Ceangău
Distance to: Moldova_Ukrainian_3 4.70291399 Ukrainian_Carpathian 5.05344437 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 5.55879483 Ukrainian_Galicia 5.87308267 Moldova_Ukrainian 7.11783675 Slovak 7.13040672 Hungarian_Northern 7.54956290 Croat_East 7.81547183 South_Polish 8.30248758 Croat_North 8.55163727 Ukrainian 8.83792396 Moldova_North 8.86755885 Hungarian_Alföld 8.88459341 Croat 9.11148726 Sorb_Lusatia 9.16204126 Slovenian 9.24429013 Czech 9.35708822 Hungarian 9.80015816 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest 10.01232241 Bosniak 10.14805400 Russian_Southwest 10.34764708 Croat_West 10.53729092 Croat_South 10.77437237 Ukrainian_Belgorod 10.98623684 Polish 11.72987212 Polish_Masuria
Distance to: Moldova_Ukrainian_1 4.12998789 Ukrainian_Carpathian 4.57229702 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 5.22218345 Ukrainian_Galicia 5.44941281 Moldova_Ukrainian 8.06769484 Moldova_North 8.30996390 Ukrainian 10.42109879 Ukrainian_Belgorod 11.59993103 Moldova_Centre 11.89618426 Moldova_average 12.27752011 Russian_Smolensk 18.44514570 Moldova_South 20.72757900 Russian_Pinega 22.68472173 Moldova_South_Gagauzia 23.70559428 Moldova_Bulgarian 30.54172556 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar 31.37130217 Crimean_Tatar 41.02199654 Moldova_Roma 41.70199636 Moldova_Jewish
Distance to: Moldova_Ukrainian_2 5.72281399 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 6.05233013 Ukrainian_Carpathian 6.24437347 Moldova_North 8.23916865 Ukrainian_Galicia 8.48940516 Moldova_Ukrainian 9.97134394 Moldova_average 9.97178520 Moldova_Centre 11.00461721 Ukrainian 13.05766442 Ukrainian_Belgorod 15.41774303 Russian_Smolensk 16.04947040 Moldova_South 20.09313564 Moldova_South_Gagauzia 22.12228514 Moldova_Bulgarian 23.16375901 Russian_Pinega 30.19689885 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar 30.87308375 Crimean_Tatar 39.72427973 Moldova_Jewish 40.67919493 Moldova_Roma
Distance to: Moldova_Ukrainian_3 4.70291399 Ukrainian_Carpathian 5.05344437 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 5.55879483 Ukrainian_Galicia 5.87308267 Moldova_Ukrainian 8.55163727 Ukrainian 8.83792396 Moldova_North 10.77437237 Ukrainian_Belgorod 12.05866493 Moldova_Centre 12.26439155 Russian_Smolensk 12.42192417 Moldova_average 18.92303887 Moldova_South 20.17432480 Russian_Pinega 23.17521521 Moldova_South_Gagauzia 23.92647070 Moldova_Bulgarian 30.25804356 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar 31.25012960 Crimean_Tatar 40.45888036 Moldova_Roma 41.93415672 Moldova_Jewish
I hope Mih@i Panf!l will appear too (I found him) ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
Are they pure Ternopil Ukrainians? One of them have almost 4% South Asian.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
He has been posted in the past for Straseni district already.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
His mom may have distant Romani, nothing extraordinary for Ukraine. In Russia it'd be much less common, maybe in places like Stavropol krai only.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
I can't say as I don't know, but I was told that they are Ukrainians and moved to Chisinau in the Soviet period. 3.86% could indicate some geneflow. I usually draw the line at 4%.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
From Briceni (Ukrainian surnames for both parents, one being rare for Moldova, but ethnically identify as Moldovans/Romanians and all grandparents spoke Romanian as the mother tongue)
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 25.07 36.71 17.96 5.60 10.20 1.39 0.82 0 1.03 0.75 0.38 0.10 0
Compared to others from Briceni
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 25.05 32.68 12.58 12.66 13.32 0.16 0.10 1.33 0.85 0.70 0 0.23 0.35 22.85 36.30 13.11 9.12 13.06 1.59 0 0 2.69 1.27 0 0 0
Distance to: Briceni_ind 4.71940674 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 5.39522937 Ukrainian_Carpathian 5.84633218 Croat_East 6.24673515 Croat 6.36738565 Moldova_North 6.75242179 Croat_North 6.82337893 Hungarian_Alföld 7.03047651 Croat_South 7.06111181 Bosniak 7.25910463 Hungarian_Northern 7.57215293 Ukrainian_Galicia 7.74434632 Croat_West 7.78531310 Slovenian 7.92753430 Hungarian 8.00642867 Slovak 8.37948089 Serb_north 8.62562462 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest 9.01554768 Csángó-Ceangău 9.25164850 Romania_Moldavia_North 9.47517810 Moldova_Ukrainian 9.51853455 Moldova_average 9.59315902 Moldova_Centre 9.68310900 Serb 9.77439001 Serb_central 10.02750218 Hungarian_Transylvania
Distance to: Briceni_ind 4.71940674 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 5.39522937 Ukrainian_Carpathian 6.36738565 Moldova_North 7.57215293 Ukrainian_Galicia 8.16908808 Moldova_Ukrainian 9.51853455 Moldova_average 9.59315902 Moldova_Centre 12.37105493 Ukrainian 15.20859297 Moldova_South 15.74423704 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.55440727 Russian_Smolensk 19.98317042 Moldova_South_Gagauzia 20.62444908 Moldova_Bulgarian 24.19612120 Russian_Pinega 30.53632100 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar 31.51269744 Crimean_Tatar 39.71804879 Moldova_Jewish 40.70435480 Moldova_Roma
Target: Briceni_ind
Distance: 4.1170% / 4.11698237 | ADC: 0.25x RC
86.4 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
13.6 Moldova_South
-Moldova_South, Ivano-Frankivsk
Target: Briceni_ind
Distance: 4.8767% / 4.87668397 | ADC: 0.25x RC
78.0 Ukrainian_Carpathian
22.0 Moldova_average
-Ukrainian_Carpathian
Target: Briceni_ind
Distance: 5.1495% / 5.14950000 | ADC: 0.25x RC
58.6 Ukrainian_Galicia
40.1 Moldova_average
1.3 Moldova_North
-Average, Centre, Gagauz
Target: Briceni_ind
Distance: 5.2291% / 5.22912142 | ADC: 0.25x RC
60.1 Moldova_North
39.9 Ukrainian_Galicia
Distance to: Briceni_ind 5.27150832 Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic 5.73166642 Moldova_Ocnita 6.22345563 Moldova_AneniiNoi 7.17901804 Moldova_Edinet 7.38102974 Moldova_Falesti 7.43148034 Moldova_Singerei 7.66065924 Moldova_Transnistria 7.69427709 Moldova_Rezina 8.02117822 Moldova_Soldanesti 8.16908808 Moldova_Ukrainian 8.22136242 Moldova_Balti 8.22574617 Moldova_Glodeni 8.44413406 Moldova_Briceni 8.51755247 Moldova_Straseni 8.69968965 Moldova_Orhei 8.81924600 Moldova_Chisinau 9.13120474 Moldova_Telenesti 9.39249168 Moldova_Ialoveni 10.46555302 Moldova_Calarasi 10.77897027 Moldova_Hincesti 10.90618173 Moldova_Nisporeni 10.96853682 Moldova_Floresti 11.99947916 Moldova_Cimislia 12.96547338 Moldova_Ungheni 13.33692243 Moldova_Cahul
Time for my weirdest sample from Moldova so far
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From Donduseni (3/4 Donduseni, 1/4 Drochia)
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 32.06 32.68 10.89 4.25 14.28 2.99 1.31 0 0.75 0.73 0 0.06 0
I don't have anyone fully from Donduseni or Drochia, but I have people with partial ancestries from there.
1/2 Donduseni, 1/2 Glodeni
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 18.83 35.80 15.59 10.88 11.39 1.98 1.46 0.60 1.77 1.37 0.20 0 0.12
Daos' dad, 1/2 Drochia, 1/2 Polish
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 22.11 39.39 12.60 7.73 8.94 2.67 3.34 0.58 0.76 1.18 0.69 0 0
1/2 Drochia, 1/2 Transnistria Ukrainian
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N_Atlantic Baltic West_Med West_Asian East_Med Red_Sea South_Asian East_Asian Siberian Amerindian Oceanian NE_African Sub-Saharan 25.56 37.62 13.38 6.59 11.84 0.66 1.22 1.12 0.60 0.38 0.42 0 0.60
Distance to: 3/4Donduseni_1/4Drochia 6.38674408 Hungarian 6.53511285 Hungarian_Northern 6.62797858 Hungarian_Transdanubia+Budapest 6.90299935 Hungarian_Alföld 6.94720807 Croat_North 6.94974820 Slovenian 6.96068962 Croat_West 7.33150735 Croat 8.07672582 Croat_East 8.28277128 Hungarian_Transylvania 8.60058719 Székely 8.60184864 Slovak 8.90695795 Croat_South 9.20935937 Czech 9.46755512 Csángó-Ceangău 9.57638241 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 9.79775484 Bosniak 9.82754802 Austrian 9.89851504 Ukrainian_Carpathian 10.40636824 Romania_Moldavia_North 10.52224311 Serb_north 10.88765815 German_East 11.02996827 Serb_central 11.19608414 Moldova_North 11.46324561 Ukrainian_Galicia
Distance to: 3/4Donduseni_1/4Drochia 9.57638241 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk 9.89851504 Ukrainian_Carpathian 11.19608414 Moldova_North 11.46324561 Ukrainian_Galicia 11.62524838 Moldova_Centre 12.01520703 Moldova_average 12.07463871 Moldova_Ukrainian 16.35215888 Ukrainian 16.50121814 Moldova_South 19.12269594 Ukrainian_Belgorod 19.56507858 Russian_Smolensk 20.04579258 Moldova_Bulgarian 20.95312387 Moldova_South_Gagauzia 27.32186544 Russian_Pinega 32.54532224 Crimean_Tatar 32.64147668 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar 37.45361798 Moldova_Jewish 40.43538302 Moldova_Roma
I don't think that we should bother with models, since they fail from the very onset
Target: 3/4Donduseni_1/4Drochia
Distance: 8.2197% / 8.21972252 | ADC: 0.25x RC
70.5 Ukrainian_Galicia
16.8 Moldova_Jewish
12.7 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
0.0 Crimean_Tatar
0.0 Moldova_average
0.0 Moldova_Bulgarian
0.0 Moldova_Centre
0.0 Moldova_North
0.0 Moldova_Roma
0.0 Moldova_South
0.0 Moldova_South_Gagauzia
0.0 Moldova_Ukrainian
0.0 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
0.0 Russian_Pinega
0.0 Russian_Smolensk
0.0 Ukrainian
0.0 Ukrainian_Belgorod
0.0 Ukrainian_Carpathian
Distance to: 3/4Donduseni_1/4Drochia 6.38067395 Moldova_Rezina 8.42758566 Moldova_Transnistria 8.60659631 Moldova_Falesti 9.26587826 Moldova_Nisporeni 9.54103244 Moldova_Balti 9.92669633 Moldova_Ocnita 10.53621849 Moldova_Floresti 10.65854118 Moldova_Briceni 10.84101932 Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic 11.03204877 Moldova_Calarasi 11.42122585 Moldova_Telenesti 11.42482385 Moldova_Singerei 11.44148592 Moldova_Ialoveni 11.46073296 Moldova_Soldanesti 11.71694073 Moldova_AneniiNoi 11.77900675 Moldova_Straseni 11.79790659 Moldova_Chisinau 12.07463871 Moldova_Ukrainian 12.12487938 Moldova_Orhei 13.18474497 Moldova_Causeni 13.32249977 Moldova_Edinet 14.24746995 Moldova_Cimislia 14.45812920 Moldova_Cantemir 14.46253781 Moldova_Cahul 14.57149615 Moldova_Hincesti
This person is similar to those recent north shifted Csangos from Neamț posted by you, but without cheburek influence. Maybe he have some German ancestry. For example this man who made these pictures had some German ancestry and he is almost from the same area.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
Maybe some Steppe influence? High South Asian can be related to Turkic steppe nomads.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Cool story (seriously) but the info doesn't say anything about him having German ancestry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
No way, their Mongoloid is miniscule, below 2%. And by the way Steppe means Indo-European on this forum, not a bunch of fucking Eurasian Muslims ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin