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11-24-2013, 09:57 PM
Black Wolf

Very interesting thanks MfA_! My brother and I are closest to Austrians on the map which is in line with our Oracle results. Our mixed European ancestry makes us look that way genetically. My father's position also makes sense. My mother looks very Irish while my aunt seems to have more of a pull towards England. My great uncle seems to look English on the map.
11-24-2013, 11:24 PM
Elms

I was too late! :sad:
11-24-2013, 11:42 PM
Oneeye

What is my name covering up on that plot? German? And who is Blondie?
11-25-2013, 12:01 AM
Aila

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oneeye

What is my name covering up on that plot? German?

German.
Look under "Regional" Spoiler! - below the main plot picture.
11-25-2013, 06:54 AM
sonofthedutch

Here we go!!!!!!

1 North_Atlantic 53.80
2 Baltic 20.84
3 West_Med 13.08
4 West_Asian 6.91
5 East_Med 4.31
6 Sub-Saharan 1.05
11-25-2013, 10:40 AM
Qorgyle

Could you add me to the table as well MfA?

21.97 30.05 14.21 6.18 14.67 5.93 2.6 0 3.47 0 0 0.91 0

In my first post in the thread i got some of the numbers wrong because I was posting it from my phone since my laptops keyboard went to hell. These results be accurate now.
11-25-2013, 01:20 PM
Alessio

Oracle-4

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 37.26
2 West_Med 18.4
3 East_Med 16.48
4 Baltic 12.54
5 West_Asian 11.6
6 Red_Sea 2.52
7 Siberian 0.82
8 Amerindian 0.25
9 Northeast_African 0.13

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 North_Italian @ 10.967
2 French @ 11.644
3 Portuguese @ 12.142
4 Spanish_Cataluna @ 12.481
5 Spanish_Extremadura @ 12.781
6 Spanish_Murcia @ 13.165
7 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 13.632
8 Spanish_Galicia @ 13.645
9 Spanish_Valencia @ 14.091
10 Spanish_Andalucia @ 14.277
179 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% South_Italian +50% West_Scottish @ 3.972
2 50% South_Italian +50% Southwest_English @ 4.114
3 50% Irish +50% South_Italian @ 4.230
4 50% Orcadian +50% South_Italian @ 4.803
5 50% South_Italian +50% Southeast_English @ 5.140
6 50% Danish +50% South_Italian @ 5.317
7 50% Greek +50% Southwest_English @ 6.066
8 50% Sephardic_Jewish +50% West_Scottish @ 6.148
9 50% Irish +50% Sephardic_Jewish @ 6.185
10 50% Dutch +50% South_Italian @ 6.247
16110 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Southeast_English +25% Assyrian +25% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.278
2 50% Southwest_English +25% Assyrian +25% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.289
3 50% Southwest_English +25% Assyrian +25% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.305
4 50% Southwest_English +25% Assyrian +25% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.423
5 50% Spanish_Cataluna +25% Azeri_Jewish +25% West_Scottish @ 3.490
6 50% Southeast_English +25% Armenian +25% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.507
7 50% Southwest_English +25% Assyrian +25% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.527
8 50% Southeast_English +25% Azeri_Jewish +25% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.535
9 50% Southwest_English +25% Assyrian +25% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.553
10 50% Spanish_Cataluna +25% Azeri_Jewish +25% Irish @ 3.648
650651 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Assyrian + Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Spanish_Aragon @ 3.170
2 Azeri_Jewish + French + Southwest_English + Spanish_Aragon @ 3.253
3 Azeri_Jewish + French + Spanish_Aragon + West_Scottish @ 3.267
4 Assyrian + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Spanish_Aragon @ 3.278
5 Assyrian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Spanish_Aragon @ 3.289
6 Assyrian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.305
7 Assyrian + French + Spanish_Aragon + West_Scottish @ 3.314
8 Azeri_Jewish + French + Southeast_English + Spanish_Aragon @ 3.352
9 Azeri_Jewish + French + Irish + Spanish_Aragon @ 3.403
10 Assyrian + Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.405
11 Assyrian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.423
12 Azeri_Jewish + French + Orcadian + Spanish_Aragon @ 3.434
13 Armenian + French + Spanish_Aragon + West_Scottish @ 3.467
14 Assyrian + French + Irish + Spanish_Aragon @ 3.477
15 Azeri_Jewish + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Scottish @ 3.490
16 Azeri_Jewish + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Scottish @ 3.500
17 Assyrian + French + Southwest_English + Spanish_Aragon @ 3.503
18 Armenian + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Spanish_Aragon @ 3.507
19 Armenian + French + Southeast_English + Spanish_Aragon @ 3.507
20 Assyrian + French + French_Basque + Southeast_English @ 3.526

Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 37.26
2 West_Med 18.4
3 East_Med 16.48
4 Baltic 12.54
5 West_Asian 11.6
6 Red_Sea 2.52
7 Siberian 0.82
8 Amerindian 0.25
9 Northeast_African 0.13

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Italian 9.61
2 French 10.17
3 Portuguese 10.72
4 Spanish_Cataluna 11.09
5 Spanish_Extremadura 11.36
6 Spanish_Murcia 11.62
7 Spanish_Galicia 12.01
8 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 12.07
9 Spanish_Valencia 12.54
10 Spanish_Andalucia 12.73
11 Tuscan 12.74
12 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 13.25
13 Spanish_Cantabria 14.69
14 Romanian 15.52
15 Spanish_Aragon 15.69
16 Serbian 16.1
17 Southwest_French 16.18
18 Bulgarian 17.2
19 German 17.87
20 Austrian 18.07

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.4% Southwest_English + 46.6% South_Italian @ 3.13
2 51.1% West_Scottish + 48.9% South_Italian @ 3.24
3 81.6% French + 18.4% Armenian @ 3.27
4 51.4% Irish + 48.6% South_Italian @ 3.49
5 81.3% French + 18.7% Azeri_Jewish @ 3.5
6 81.9% French + 18.1% Assyrian @ 3.63
7 64.5% Southwest_English + 35.5% Cyprian @ 3.7
8 82.1% French + 17.9% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.75
9 52.1% Orcadian + 47.9% South_Italian @ 3.81
10 54.8% Southeast_English + 45.2% South_Italian @ 3.81
11 58% Southwest_English + 42% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.88
12 78.5% French + 21.5% Turkish @ 3.94
13 56% Irish + 44% Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.27
14 80.6% French + 19.4% Lebanese_Muslim @ 4.27
15 64.7% Tuscan + 35.3% West_Scottish @ 4.28
16 55.8% West_Scottish + 44.2% Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.29
17 64.5% Tuscan + 35.5% Irish @ 4.29
18 82.2% French + 17.8% Kurdish @ 4.31
19 80.1% Spanish_Cataluna + 19.9% Lezgin @ 4.34
20 82.1% French + 17.9% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.36
11-25-2013, 02:20 PM
Thrax

A shame we don't have more greek results, I would like to see where other greek people cluster. I seem to be more balkan than italian oriented.
11-25-2013, 03:54 PM
Graham

Tried lining up some averages together on MFA's map

http://imageshack.us/a/img854/8523/dplo.png
11-25-2013, 03:56 PM
Graham

Btw noticed the Azores next to France, away from the Iberians.
11-25-2013, 05:11 PM
Alessio

Hahaha your results are better for me than my own :p

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anglojew

Using 1 population approximation:
1 North_Italian @ 10.942
2 Romanian @ 12.032
3 Tuscan @ 12.597
4 Serbian @ 13.281
5 Bulgarian @ 13.845
6 French @ 14.893
7 Portuguese @ 15.270
8 Spanish_Extremadura @ 16.183
9 Spanish_Galicia @ 16.429
10 Spanish_Cataluna @ 16.675
175 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% German +50% South_Italian @ 2.123
2 50% Dutch +50% South_Italian @ 2.221
3 50% Danish +50% South_Italian @ 3.272
4 50% Orcadian +50% South_Italian @ 3.548
5 50% Norwegian +50% South_Italian @ 3.591
6 50% Norwegian +50% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.593
7 50% Dutch +50% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.657
8 50% South_Italian +50% Swedish @ 3.725
9 50% South_Italian +50% Southeast_English @ 3.772
10 50% Irish +50% South_Italian @ 3.800
15400 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% West_Scottish +25% Cyprian +25% Greek @ 1.520
2 50% German +25% Lebanese_Muslim +25% North_Italian @ 1.675
3 50% Irish +25% Cyprian +25% Greek @ 1.700
4 50% Dutch +25% Lebanese_Muslim +25% Tuscan @ 1.827
5 50% South_Italian +25% Dutch +25% German @ 1.888
6 50% Orcadian +25% Cyprian +25% Greek @ 1.905
7 50% Southwest_English +25% Cyprian +25% Greek @ 2.065
8 50% Danish +25% Cyprian +25% Greek @ 2.072
9 50% South_Italian +25% German +25% Norwegian @ 2.085
10 50% South_Italian +25% Danish +25% German @ 2.098
511171 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Cyprian + Greek + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 1.520
2 Cyprian + Greek + Irish + West_Scottish @ 1.568
3 Cyprian + Greek + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 1.575
4 Cyprian + Greek + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 1.602
5 Cyprian + Danish + Greek + West_Scottish @ 1.612
6 Cyprian + Greek + Irish + Southwest_English @ 1.614
7 Cyprian + Danish + Greek + Southwest_English @ 1.645
8 German + German + Lebanese_Muslim + North_Italian @ 1.675
9 Cyprian + Greek + Irish + Irish @ 1.700
10 Cyprian + Greek + Irish + Orcadian @ 1.708
11 German + Greek + Irish + Sephardic_Jewish @ 1.715
12 Cyprian + Danish + Greek + Irish @ 1.723
13 German + Lebanese_Muslim + Southwest_English + Tuscan @ 1.739
14 Cyprian + Greek + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 1.757
15 German + Irish + Lebanese_Christian + North_Italian @ 1.760
16 German + Lebanese_Muslim + Orcadian + Tuscan @ 1.778
17 Cyprian + German + Irish + Tuscan @ 1.792
18 German + Irish + Lebanese_Muslim + Tuscan @ 1.808
19 Assyrian + Austrian + Southwest_English + Spanish_Murcia @ 1.822
20 Dutch + Dutch + Lebanese_Muslim + Tuscan @ 1.827
11-25-2013, 05:19 PM
Black Wolf

How do people like this run? I know that Polako wants feedback about it. How do you like it compared to other calculators?
11-25-2013, 05:23 PM
Alessio

I've read that crazy theorie on Imninalu that Rroma Gyspies are Indian Jews originally..I don't believe it though

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrswan

here is my harappa world it is good for southasians and also my mdlp which is good for eastern euros
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 23.93
2 Caucasian 23.47
3 Mediterranean 21.36
4 Baloch 12.30
5 S-Indian 11.00
6 SW-Asian 5.03
7 Papuan 1.06
8 NE-Asian 0.93
9 American 0.92

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 romanian-b @ 16.790
2 romanian-a @ 17.307
3 tuscan @ 17.879
4 tuscan @ 17.942
5 bulgarian @ 18.122
6 tuscan @ 18.154
7 ashkenazi @ 19.049
8 ashkenazy-jew @ 20.881
9 italian @ 21.192
10 serbian @ 21.943
377 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% romanian-a +50% romanian-b @ 5.004
2 50% romanian-b +50% serbian @ 6.052
3 50% bulgarian +50% romanian-b @ 6.068
4 50% italian +50% romanian-b @ 6.196
5 50% sephardic-jew +50% singapore-indian-d @ 7.585
6 50% ashkenazy-jew +50% singapore-indian-d @ 7.611
7 50% romanian-b +50% tuscan @ 7.613
8 50% romanian-b +50% tuscan @ 7.683
9 50% romanian-b +50% tuscan @ 7.912
10 50% french +50% romanian-b @ 8.200
71253 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% tuscan +25% bengali-brahmin +25% bulgarian @ 1.890
2 50% tuscan +25% brahmin-uttar-pradesh +25% bulgarian @ 1.918
3 50% bulgarian +25% cochin-jew +25% tuscan @ 1.984
4 50% tuscan +25% bengali-brahmin +25% bulgarian @ 1.987
5 50% tuscan +25% bulgarian +25% vaish @ 2.023
6 50% tuscan +25% bihari-muslim +25% bulgarian @ 2.031
7 50% tuscan +25% bihari-muslim +25% bulgarian @ 2.031
8 50% tuscan +25% brahmin-uttar-pradesh +25% bulgarian @ 2.075
9 50% bulgarian +25% cochin-jew +25% tuscan @ 2.076
10 50% romanian-a +25% cochin-jew +25% tuscan @ 2.121
5266372 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 bengali-brahmin + bulgarian + tuscan + tuscan @ 1.890
2 bulgarian + cochin-jew + romanian-a + tuscan @ 1.915
3 brahmin-uttar-pradesh + bulgarian + tuscan + tuscan @ 1.918
4 bengali-brahmin + bulgarian + tuscan + tuscan @ 1.928
5 bulgarian + cochin-jew + romanian-a + tuscan @ 1.961
6 bulgarian + bulgarian + cochin-jew + tuscan @ 1.984
7 bengali-brahmin + bulgarian + tuscan + tuscan @ 1.987
8 brahmin-uttar-pradesh + bulgarian + tuscan + tuscan @ 1.987
9 bihari-muslim + bulgarian + tuscan + tuscan @ 2.020
10 bulgarian + tuscan + tuscan + vaish @ 2.023
11 bihari-muslim + bulgarian + tuscan + tuscan @ 2.031
12 bihari-muslim + bulgarian + tuscan + tuscan @ 2.031
13 bengali-brahmin + bulgarian + tuscan + tuscan @ 2.057
14 brahmin-uttar-pradesh + bulgarian + tuscan + tuscan @ 2.075
15 bulgarian + bulgarian + cochin-jew + tuscan @ 2.076
16 bulgarian + tuscan + tuscan + vaish @ 2.077
17 bulgarian + cochin-jew + romanian-a + tuscan @ 2.091
18 bihari-muslim + bulgarian + tuscan + tuscan @ 2.115
19 cochin-jew + romanian-a + romanian-a + tuscan @ 2.121
20 brahmin-uttar-pradesh + bulgarian + tuscan + tuscan @ 2.125

could the tuscan be a substitute for jewish? how tuscan, that is italian

mdlp world22
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North-East-European 27.68
2 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 26.72
3 West-Asian 18.82
4 Indian 11.57
5 Near_East 9.72
6 Indo-Iranian 1.51
7 East-South-Asian 1.39
8 Samoedic 0.96
9 North-European-Mesolithic 0.89
10 Austronesian 0.75

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Romania @ 13.754
2 Greek_South @ 14.868
3 Gagauz @ 15.423
4 Greek_North @ 15.573
5 Ashkenazim_V @ 15.682
6 Bulgarian @ 17.343
7 Tatar_Crim @ 17.502
8 Jew_Romania @ 18.544
9 Greek_Center @ 18.837
10 Macedonian @ 19.290
276 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Macedonian +50% Roma @ 4.173
2 50% Bulgarian +50% Roma @ 4.462
3 50% Roma +50% Serbian @ 4.727
4 50% Gagauz +50% Roma @ 4.990
5 50% Montenegrin +50% Roma @ 5.110
6 50% Bosnian +50% Roma @ 5.673
7 50% Roma +50% Romania @ 6.591
8 50% Croatian +50% Roma @ 6.781
9 50% Hungarian +50% Roma @ 7.241
10 50% Austrian +50% Roma @ 7.978
38226 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Serbian +25% Greek_Center +25% Jew_India @ 1.656
2 50% Serbian +25% Greek_East +25% Jew_India @ 1.695
3 50% Montenegrin +25% Ashkenazim_V +25% Jew_India @ 1.725
4 50% Serbian +25% Greek_South +25% Jew_India @ 1.849
5 50% Serbian +25% Italian-Center +25% Jew_India @ 1.856
6 50% Serbian +25% Jew_India +25% Jew_Romania @ 1.866
7 50% Gagauz +25% Jew_India +25% Swiss @ 1.904
8 50% Montenegrin +25% Greek_South +25% Jew_India @ 1.909
9 50% Italian-Center +25% Jew_India +25% Polish @ 1.963
10 50% Macedonian +25% Ashkenazim_V +25% Jew_India @ 1.986
3264784 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Greek_East + Italian-North + Jew_India + Ukrainian-West @ 1.458
2 Jew_India + Jew_Romania + Kosovar + Ukrainian-West @ 1.469
3 Greek_East + Italian-North + Jew_India + Ukrainian_V @ 1.483
4 Greek_Center + Italian-North + Jew_India + Ukrainian-West @ 1.499
5 Greek_Cretan + Jew_India + Provancestralal + Ukrainian-West @ 1.506
6 Greek_Center + Italian-North + Jew_India + Ukrainian_V @ 1.514
7 Hungarian + Italian-South + Jew_India + Macedonian @ 1.517
8 Czech + Gagauz + Italian-South + Jew_India @ 1.534
9 Greek_East + Italian-North + Jew_India + Ukrainian-Center @ 1.535
10 Bosnian + Italian-South + Jew_India + Serbian @ 1.541
11 Hungarian + Italian-Center + Jew_India + Macedonian @ 1.551
12 Croatian + Italian-South + Jew_India + Macedonian @ 1.559
13 Bulgarian + Hungarian + Italian-Center + Jew_India @ 1.564
14 Italian-South + Jew_India + Latvian_V + Provancestralal @ 1.566
15 Jew_India + Jew_Romania + Kosovar + Ukrainian_V @ 1.566
16 Bulgarian + Italian-South + Jew_India + Slovenian @ 1.570
17 Greek_South + Jew_India + Macedonian + Serbian @ 1.571
18 Croatian + Italian-Center + Jew_India + Macedonian @ 1.578
19 Greek_South + Jew_India + Montenegrin + Serbian @ 1.579
20 Italian-North + Italian-South + Jew_India + Ukrainian-East @ 1.585

i dont know what the greek and italian substitutes, but there is indian type ancestry and either balkan or jewish, it is hard to tell i guess when you are southeuropean with roma because it could be a mix which is similar to jewish, i guess in northern europeans it is easier to tell
11-25-2013, 05:23 PM
HellLander87

In the previous version I was taking too much spanish_extremadura+spanish_castillan...which was annoying. now i think it's fixed for my case
11-25-2013, 05:33 PM
Alessio

Why don't you try FTDNA's family finder ??

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrswan

no it is not confirmed, 23andme didnt confirmed it. their response left me unsatisfied and without knowledge and confirmation
11-25-2013, 05:51 PM
Jackson

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaxman

How do people like this run? I know that Polako wants feedback about it. How do you like it compared to other calculators?

Allowing for overlaps between close populations and peculiarities in parts of my own family, it seems very accurate. EUtest was only more accurate because the group he used for the English was different (rather than SE English and SW English - I assume an intermediary between SE English and Cornish). I guess the 'English' group on EUtest better fit my family, but as these groups are all from my population group, i guess we are just towards the extremities of the group rather than in the core close to the average.
11-25-2013, 05:54 PM
Graham

It is very alike to K15. From a British Perspective, which I can only give.

We have it split by West Atlantic & East North Sea, and nearly now South with the English.

The English pull closer to the Germans than the Orcadians, who pull closer to the Scandos.

In that respect it is good.
11-25-2013, 06:01 PM
Jackson

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graham

It is very alike to K15. From a British Perspective, which I can only give.

We have it split by West Atlantic & East North Sea, and nearly now South with the English.

The English pull closer to the Germans than the Orcadians, who pull closer to the Scandos.

In that respect it is good.

It would still be interesting to see where the individual members of each group plot too, then one could allocate an area of normal distribution around the average and see the overlap. For example while i know my mother is definitely outside the normal range, i don't know about other family members. So if say a lot of the Brits actually plotted where my Grandfather or Aunt did, it would be easier to understand whether this is just due to variation within a group or not.
11-25-2013, 06:04 PM
Black Wolf

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jackson

It would still be interesting to see where the individual members of each group plot too, then one could allocate an area of normal distribution around the average and see the overlap. For example while i know my mother is definitely outside the normal range, i don't know about other family members. So if say a lot of the Brits actually plotted where my Grandfather or Aunt did, it would be easier to understand whether this is just due to variation within a group or not.

I see that my great uncle falls fairly close to one of your relatives on the plot Jackson.
11-25-2013, 06:09 PM
Jackson

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaxman

I see that my great uncle falls fairly close to one of your relatives on the plot Jackson.

Yeah he falls pretty close to my Grandmother :). A bit more to the south and east though. Her ancestry is 1/2 from Cheshire, 1/4 from London and 1/8 each from Devon and Hertfordshire, if i remember correctly.
11-25-2013, 06:11 PM
Graham

I like the look of that when you split East & West England.

http://imageshack.us/a/img811/8549/sbm6.png
11-25-2013, 06:14 PM
Black Wolf

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jackson

Yeah he falls pretty close to my Grandmother :). A bit more to the south and east though. Her ancestry is 1/2 from Cheshire, 1/4 from London and 1/8 each from Devon and Hertfordshire, if i remember correctly.

My great uncle here is my maternal grandmother's brother. He was born and raised in Northern Ireland and is from a Protestant family. Most of his ancestry is probably mixed Scottish and English origins mainly before they arrived in Ireland.
11-25-2013, 06:16 PM
Black Wolf

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graham

I like the look of that when you split East & West England.

http://imageshack.us/a/img811/8549/sbm6.png

So does my great uncle here fall in far Southeast England then?
11-25-2013, 06:19 PM
Graham

Fuck knows. what's his ancestry. You know as much as I. :P

Looking at French. I'd like see how a Frenchman of the North West or of Brittany, would place with SW England. Maybe in between like your greatuncle.

His closest on chart, is Jackson's Gran. Who's ancestry heads towards the SW England. Like the chart.
11-25-2013, 06:21 PM
Jackson

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graham

I like the look of that when you split East & West England.

http://imageshack.us/a/img811/8549/sbm6.png

That is interesting, looks a lot clearer when you highlight them. Like you say it seems as much of a south/north split as an east/west one. It's interesting that my father landed where he did, seems he takes after his mother in everything but his genetics lol. I think my aunt (father's sister) might end up pretty much exactly on Southeast English, or between SE and SW. I was thinking about asking my grandfather's sister if she wanted to take part too, that would be quite interesting.
11-25-2013, 06:25 PM
Jackson

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaxman

So does my great uncle here fall in far Southeast England then?

Probably not far from where many Belgians would land, thinking about it? South of Britain, north of France, but not as east as Germany or the Netherlands. I would have thought they would form a group a bit south of the English groups that adjoins onto the yellow group.
11-25-2013, 06:28 PM
Black Wolf

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jackson

Probably not far from where many Belgians would land, thinking about it? South of Britain, north of France, but not as east as Germany or the Netherlands. I would have thought they would form a group a bit south of the English groups that adjoins onto the yellow group.

Interesting.
11-25-2013, 06:30 PM
Jackson

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaxman

Interesting.

That's just a personal observation, i might be wrong. But Belgians tend to be a bit south of England and west of Germany and the Netherlands, although if i remember correctly a few end up in with the Dutch, Flemish i would guess.
11-25-2013, 06:30 PM
Black Wolf

Quote:

Originally Posted by Graham

Fuck knows. what's his ancestry. You know as much as I. :P

Looking at French. I'd like see how a Frenchman of the North West or of Brittany, would place with SW England. Maybe in between like your greatuncle.

His closest on chart, is Jackson's Gran. Who's ancestry heads towards the SW England. Like the chart.

I mentioned it a few posts back to Jackson. He is from Northern Ireland from a Protestant family. Most of his ancestors probably came from both Scotland and England before they arrived in Ireland. We also know of one Huguenot line.
11-25-2013, 06:32 PM
Graham

Belgians would end up between the Dutch & French. Not complicated. :P
11-25-2013, 06:46 PM
Kazimiera

North_Atlantic 39.23%
Baltic 31.34%
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West_Med 10.61%
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West_Asian 6.15%
East_Med 4.48%
Sub-Saharan 2.60%
Amerindian 1.37%
Oceanian 1.32%
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South_Asian 0.93%
East_Asian 0.82%
Northeast_African 0.70%
Siberian 0.46%
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Red_Sea -

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 German @ 8.885
2 North_Swedish @ 9.494
3 Swedish @ 9.673
4 Austrian @ 9.965
5 Hungarian @ 10.353
6 Dutch @ 10.669
7 Norwegian @ 11.170
8 Danish @ 13.798
9 Polish @ 14.204
10 Orcadian @ 14.232

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Hungarian +50% Swedish @ 3.309
2 50% Orcadian +50% Polish @ 3.626
3 50% Irish +50% Polish @ 3.651
4 50% Ukrainian_West +50% West_Scottish @ 3.661
5 50% Danish +50% Polish @ 3.676
6 50% Austrian +50% Swedish @ 3.690
7 50% Danish +50% Ukrainian_West @ 3.711
8 50% Irish +50% Ukrainian_West @ 3.757
9 50% Polish +50% Southeast_English @ 3.758
10 50% Hungarian +50% Norwegian @ 3.772
16110 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Orcadian +25% Hungarian +25% Ukrainian_Northeast @ 3.199
2 50% German +25% Swedish +25% Ukrainian_Northeast @ 3.264
3 50% Irish +25% Hungarian +25% Ukrainian_Northeast @ 3.264
4 50% Norwegian +25% Austrian +25% Ukrainian_West @ 3.281
5 50% Swedish +25% French +25% Ukrainian_Northeast @ 3.286
6 50% Orcadian +25% Austrian +25% Ukrainian_Northeast @ 3.288
7 50% German +25% Russian +25% Swedish @ 3.305
8 50% Hungarian +25% Swedish +25% Swedish @ 3.309
9 50% Swedish +25% Hungarian +25% Hungarian @ 3.309
10 50% Danish +25% Hungarian +25% Ukrainian_Northeast @ 3.346
369256 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Hungarian + Irish + Swedish + Ukrainian_West @ 3.128
2 Hungarian + Irish + Swedish + Ukrainian @ 3.145
3 Hungarian + Swedish + Ukrainian_West + West_Scottish @ 3.164
4 Hungarian + Irish + Polish + Swedish @ 3.165
5 Austrian + Irish + Swedish + Ukrainian @ 3.166
6 Austrian + Irish + Swedish + Ukrainian_West @ 3.177
7 Austrian + Southwest_English + Swedish + Ukrainian_Northeast @ 3.178
8 Hungarian + Irish + Orcadian + Ukrainian_Northeast @ 3.178
9 Hungarian + Swedish + Ukrainian + West_Scottish @ 3.181
10 Hungarian + Orcadian + Swedish + Ukrainian_West @ 3.182
11 Danish + Hungarian + Swedish + Ukrainian_West @ 3.183
12 Hungarian + Norwegian + Southwest_English + Ukrainian_Northeast @ 3.189
13 Austrian + Danish + Swedish + Ukrainian_West @ 3.195
14 Austrian + Orcadian + Swedish + Ukrainian_West @ 3.198
15 Hungarian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Ukrainian_Northeast @ 3.199
16 Hungarian + Orcadian + Polish + Swedish @ 3.200
17 Austrian + Norwegian + Southwest_English + Ukrainian_Northeast @ 3.202
18 Danish + Hungarian + Irish + Ukrainian_Northeast @ 3.210
19 Austrian + Norwegian + Ukrainian_Northeast + West_Scottish @ 3.211
20 Austrian + Irish + Norwegian + Ukrainian_Northeast @ 3.216
11-25-2013, 06:53 PM
noricum

MfA! Why oh why did you forgett about me? MfA!?

34.35 34.42 13.15 3.82 10.84 1.40 1.43 0.00 0.39 0.00 0.11 0.10 0.00

Oh MfA...
11-25-2013, 09:17 PM
Alessio

Me too...:mad:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elms

I was too late! :sad:
11-25-2013, 11:42 PM
Jackson

Mfa is it possible to also make a Dendrogram for this? Would also be very interesting.
11-25-2013, 11:47 PM
Maleficent

What ethnicity would you guys guess my mom based on the plot?!
11-26-2013, 12:25 AM
Atlantic Islander

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11-26-2013, 12:52 AM
JQP4545

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaxman

How do people like this run? I know that Polako wants feedback about it. How do you like it compared to other calculators?

Best one for me so far.
11-26-2013, 01:02 AM
JQP4545

Why is the South Asian component so high on this?
11-26-2013, 01:02 AM
JQP4545

Population
North_Atlantic 37.81%
Baltic 21.65%
West_Med 15.88%
West_Asian 7.58%
East_Med 13.80%
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 1.69%
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.35%
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.25%
Northeast_African 0.62%
Sub-Saharan 0.36%

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Austrian + Greek + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 2.526
2 Bulgarian + Danish + Danish + Tuscan @ 2.667
3 Bulgarian + Norwegian + Southeast_English + Tuscan @ 2.769
4 Ashkenazi + Austrian + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 2.776
5 German + Serbian + Southeast_English + Tuscan @ 2.799
6 Bulgarian + Danish + Southeast_English + Tuscan @ 2.799
7 Danish + Romanian + Southeast_English + Tuscan @ 2.807
8 Ashkenazi + Austrian + Southeast_English + Southwest_English @ 2.808
9 Greek + Hungarian + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 2.833
10 Bulgarian + Danish + German + North_Italian @ 2.860
11 Norwegian + Romanian + Southeast_English + Tuscan @ 2.865
12 Danish + Danish + Romanian + Tuscan @ 2.875
13 Bulgarian + Danish + Orcadian + Tuscan @ 2.886
14 Danish + German + Romanian + Tuscan @ 2.886
15 Austrian + South_Italian + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 2.898
16 Danish + German + Serbian + Tuscan @ 2.913
17 Bulgarian + Danish + Norwegian + Tuscan @ 2.927
18 Bulgarian + Danish + Dutch + Tuscan @ 2.944
19 Hungarian + South_Italian + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 2.950
20 Danish + Dutch + Romanian + Tuscan @ 2.951
11-26-2013, 03:04 AM
Maleficent

Quote:

Originally Posted by JQP4545

Why is the South Asian component so high on this?

A better question would be: Why do I get way more South Asian than my parents, and we don't even have any known South Asian ancestry?!

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