Dodecad k12b West, Central & South Asian results Vol. 2

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10-15-2020, 04:13 PM
Bender1999

Maybe already posted here, but i want to show it. A Xiongnu, who lived 2200 years ago in Khövsgöl(Mongolia). It is even more eastern than Altai mountains:

Gedrosia: 17.64 Pct
Siberian: 21.45 Pct
Northwest_African: -
Southeast_Asian: 2.01 Pct
Atlantic_Med: 4.92 Pct
North_European: 26.72 Pct
South_Asian: 2.57 Pct
East_African: -
Southwest_Asian: -
East_Asian: 23.34 Pct
Caucasus: -
Sub_Saharan : 1.35 Pct
10-15-2020, 04:24 PM
Dr_Maul

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bender1999

Maybe already posted here, but i want to show it. A Xiongnu, who lived 2200 years ago in Khövsgöl(Mongolia). It is even more eatern than Altai mountains:

Gedrosia: 17.64 Pct
Siberian: 21.45 Pct
Northwest_African: -
Southeast_Asian: 2.01 Pct
Atlantic_Med: 4.92 Pct
North_European: 26.72 Pct
South_Asian: 2.57 Pct
East_African: -
Southwest_Asian: -
East_Asian: 23.34 Pct
Caucasus: -
Sub_Saharan : 1.35 Pct

Interesting he has decent East Asian, I thought the Siberian would be higher compared to it. Tatar-like
10-15-2020, 04:37 PM
Amon

Nogai Astrakhan (N=5)

Code:

NA1,9.31,19.1,0,3.21,8.91,23.1,0.35,0,1.77,23.01,11.22,0 NA2,9.76,19.88,0,0.18,10.08,24.47,2.63,0.13,1.43,19.97,11.43,0 NA3,10.53,24.9,0,4.49,4.06,14.25,3.51,0,2.23,28.78,7.24,0 NA4,12.2,24.74,0,5.21,3.45,12.31,4.47,0,1.18,26.87,9.57,0 NA5,10.34,21.97,0.22,2.67,8.72,21.68,2.38,0,0.45,20.93,10.64,0

Avg: Nogai_Astrakhan,10.43,22.12,0.04,3.15,7.04,19.16,2 .67,0.03,1.41,23.91,10.02,0

Distance to: Nogai_Astrakhan
4.88787234 Karakalpak
11.17642054 Kazakh
11.76819510 Uzbeks
14.28094521 Uyghur
14.33266256 Bashkir

Target: Nogai_Astrakhan
Distance: 0.9360% / 0.93601260 | ADC: 0.25x
77.6 Karakalpak
19.2 Bashkir
1.8 Spanish_Basque
1.0 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
0.2 Selkup
0.2 Spanish_Asturias
10-15-2020, 05:23 PM
Bender1999

Hun or Xiongnu who lived 1600 years ago, Tianshan(Kyrgyzstan). Y-Dna E-V22

Gedrosia: 15.90 Pct
Siberian: 16.49 Pct
Northwest_African: -
Southeast_Asian: 1.49 Pct
Atlantic_Med: 10.74 Pct
North_European: 27.41 Pct
South_Asian: 3.02 Pct
East_African: 0.28 Pct
Southwest_Asian: -
East_Asian: 14.16 Pct
Caucasus: 6.09 Pct
Sub_Saharan : 4.42 Pct
10-15-2020, 05:39 PM
Leto

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amon

Avg: Nogai_Astrakhan,10.43,22.12,0.04,3.15,7.04,19.16,2.67,0.03,1.41,23.91,10.02,0

Distance to: Nogai_Astrakhan
4.88787234 Karakalpak
11.17642054 Kazakh
11.76819510 Uzbeks
14.28094521 Uyghur
14.33266256 Bashkir

Target: Nogai_Astrakhan
Distance: 0.9360% / 0.93601260 | ADC: 0.25x
77.6 Karakalpak
19.2 Bashkir
1.8 Spanish_Basque
1.0 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
0.2 Selkup
0.2 Spanish_Asturias

Interesting. Very high Mongoloid, close to 50%. You need to submit the average to Lukasz, I cannot do it for you everytime ;)

I wonder how much Mongoloid Astrakhan Tatars are. I doubt they are over 30% on average.
10-15-2020, 05:46 PM
Noble Cuman

Crimean Tatar-Thessaloniki(Langadas) Turk.
Dodecad K12b Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 28.96
2 North_European 26.44
3 Atlantic_Med 19.25
4 Gedrosia 9.73
5 Southwest_Asian 6.38
6 East_Asian 6.31
7 Siberian 2.46
8 South_Asian 0.31
9 Sub_Saharan 0.17

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 12.43
2 Romanians (Behar) 13.61
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 13.67
4 Greek (Dodecad) 15.83
5 O_Italian (Dodecad) 16.1
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 19.28
7 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 19.76
8 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 20.44
9 Tuscan (HGDP) 20.45
10 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 20.67
11 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 20.73
12 Sicilian (Dodecad) 20.94
13 TSI30 (Metspalu) 21.07
14 N_Italian (Dodecad) 22.78
15 Turkish (Dodecad) 23.38
16 Turks (Behar) 24.81
17 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 24.87
18 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 25.3
19 North_Italian (HGDP) 25.56
20 Hungarians (Behar) 25.77

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.2% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 32.8% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.16
2 69.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 30.2% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.61
3 67.7% Romanians (Behar) + 32.3% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.88
4 63.6% Turkish (Dodecad) + 36.4% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 5.02
5 78.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 21.3% Hazara (HGDP) @ 5.23
6 62.2% Turks (Behar) + 37.8% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 5.3
7 63.9% Turkish (Dodecad) + 36.1% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 5.32
8 55.3% Turks (Behar) + 44.7% German (Dodecad) @ 5.38
9 62.5% Turks (Behar) + 37.5% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 5.39
10 74.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 25.4% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 5.57
11 51% Turks (Behar) + 49% Hungarians (Behar) @ 5.61
12 56.8% Turkish (Dodecad) + 43.2% German (Dodecad) @ 5.64
13 78.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 21.8% Uygur (HGDP) @ 5.77
14 52.6% Turkish (Dodecad) + 47.4% Hungarians (Behar) @ 5.78
15 70.6% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 29.4% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 5.98
16 77.3% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 22.7% Hazara (HGDP) @ 6.06
17 72.8% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 27.2% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 6.31
18 73.5% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 26.5% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 6.45
19 76.6% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 23.4% Uygur (HGDP) @ 6.59
20 57.2% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 42.8% Nogais (Yunusbayev) @ 6.65
10-15-2020, 05:46 PM
Noble Cuman

Crimean Tatar-Thessaloniki(Langadas) Turk.
Dodecad K12b Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 28.96
2 North_European 26.44
3 Atlantic_Med 19.25
4 Gedrosia 9.73
5 Southwest_Asian 6.38
6 East_Asian 6.31
7 Siberian 2.46
8 South_Asian 0.31
9 Sub_Saharan 0.17

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 12.43
2 Romanians (Behar) 13.61
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 13.67
4 Greek (Dodecad) 15.83
5 O_Italian (Dodecad) 16.1
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 19.28
7 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 19.76
8 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 20.44
9 Tuscan (HGDP) 20.45
10 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 20.67
11 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 20.73
12 Sicilian (Dodecad) 20.94
13 TSI30 (Metspalu) 21.07
14 N_Italian (Dodecad) 22.78
15 Turkish (Dodecad) 23.38
16 Turks (Behar) 24.81
17 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 24.87
18 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 25.3
19 North_Italian (HGDP) 25.56
20 Hungarians (Behar) 25.77

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.2% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 32.8% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.16
2 69.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 30.2% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.61
3 67.7% Romanians (Behar) + 32.3% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.88
4 63.6% Turkish (Dodecad) + 36.4% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 5.02
5 78.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 21.3% Hazara (HGDP) @ 5.23
6 62.2% Turks (Behar) + 37.8% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 5.3
7 63.9% Turkish (Dodecad) + 36.1% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 5.32
8 55.3% Turks (Behar) + 44.7% German (Dodecad) @ 5.38
9 62.5% Turks (Behar) + 37.5% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 5.39
10 74.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 25.4% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 5.57
11 51% Turks (Behar) + 49% Hungarians (Behar) @ 5.61
12 56.8% Turkish (Dodecad) + 43.2% German (Dodecad) @ 5.64
13 78.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 21.8% Uygur (HGDP) @ 5.77
14 52.6% Turkish (Dodecad) + 47.4% Hungarians (Behar) @ 5.78
15 70.6% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 29.4% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 5.98
16 77.3% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 22.7% Hazara (HGDP) @ 6.06
17 72.8% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 27.2% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 6.31
18 73.5% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 26.5% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 6.45
19 76.6% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 23.4% Uygur (HGDP) @ 6.59
20 57.2% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 42.8% Nogais (Yunusbayev) @ 6.65
10-15-2020, 05:49 PM
Amon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leto

Interesting. Very high Mongoloid, close to 50%. You need to submit the average to Lukasz, I cannot do it for you everytime ;)

I wonder how much Mongoloid Astrakhan Tatars are. I doubt they are over 30% on average.

Sure, I'll submit them myself henceforth.

These are ASTRAKHAN Nogais!

Other Nogai averages

Code:

Nogai_Dagestan,14.55666667,11.41666667,0.2,0.1,6.926666667,23.39,1.17,0,3.486666667,14.69333333,24.04666667,0 Nogai_Stavropol,13.144,11.922,0.01,1.224,7.594,21.61,1.42,0,2.334,15.274,25.446,0 Nogai_Crimea,12.002,13.188,0.29,2.07,7.078,18.25,0.976,0.172,3.066,18.824,24.058,0.026

N=3, 5, 5 respectively.
10-15-2020, 06:10 PM
Leto

Yeah, but Nogai and Tatar are different things. In Astrakhan the majority of local Turkics identify as Tatars.
10-15-2020, 06:22 PM
Amon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leto

Yeah, but Nogai and Tatar are different things. In Astrakhan the majority of local Turkics identify as Tatars.

My bad! Yeah, IMO they'll cluster somewhere close to Lipkas but with a pull towards Astrakhan Nogai.

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