Bosniak Gedmatch results

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Originally Posted by Varda

User Vlatko even dislike Sandžakians. He said he doesn't recognized them as part of own ethnicity.

Nigga Bosniensis (from Bihać) is more pro-Ottoman than any Turkksh user here. He dislike modern Turkey because it's secular and gave up from Ottoman heritage according to him. On his avatar was often Omer paša Latas. Bosniensis worship Omer paša Latas because he destroyed Bosnian and Herzegovinian begovat in the name of holy sultan. :)

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Did this Vlatko tell you why he disliked us ?

Regarding Bosniensis, I think he is a bit trolling but in the end, until Erdogan came (early 2000s), between its creation and during Cold War period, the modern Turkish republic was built against the Ottoman-Islamic heritage, and was pretty isolationist and neglected its old Ottoman sphere of influence (Balkans, Caucasus, Levant, Central Asia) because also of geopolitical divide of Cold War (communist countries vs NATO-alliance countries which Turkey was member)

So from that perspective, we Balkan Muslims, can feel a certain nostalgia of Ottoman past (which is the starting point of our history-culture) and disdain for modern Turkish Republic, up until Erdogan's leadership that restored Neo-Ottoman foreign policies (economical, trade, business, diplomatical, cultural, religious partnerships between Turkey and former Ottoman regions, in order to strengthen ties in both sides)

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Originally Posted by Varda

I know, he was in Austrian military service before escaped to Bosnia and converted on islam https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omer_Pasha#Early_life
Many Bosniaks hate Omer paša Latas, but Bosniensis worship him. xD

I know one Serb from Plaški with surname Latas.

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He was very capable, one of best careers ever for a foreign muslim in Ottoman Empire. After conversion to Islam, he came to hill above Janja Gora to watch his village many times, but never returned home.
I know that because my ex father is from Janja Gora.

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Originally Posted by RogueState

Did this Vlatko tell you why he disliked us ?

Regarding Bosniensis, I think he is a bit trolling but in the end, until Erdogan came (early 2000s), between its creation and during Cold War period, the modern Turkish republic was built against the Ottoman-Islamic heritage, and was pretty isolationist and neglected its old Ottoman sphere of influence (Balkans, Caucasus, Levant, Central Asia) because also of geopolitical divide of Cold War (communist countries vs NATO-alliance countries which Turkey was member)

So from that perspective, we Balkan Muslims, can feel a certain nostalgia of Ottoman past (which is the starting point of our history-culture) and disdain for modern Turkish Republic, up until Erdogan's leadership that restored Neo-Ottoman foreign policies (economical, trade, business, diplomatical, cultural, religious partnerships between Turkey and former Ottoman regions, in order to strengthen ties in both sides)

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He said that Sandžakians are alien for him culturally and by mentality, and doesn't recognized them as own ethnicity. He had a conflict with other Bosniak user because of that and his anti-Turkish attitudes.

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Originally Posted by Stearsolina

He was very capable, one of best careers ever for a foreign muslim in Ottoman Empire. After conversion to Islam, he came to hill above Janja Gora to watch his village many times, but never returned home.
I know that because my ex father is from Janja Gora.

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Omer paša was probably I2-S17250*
Several Serbian families from Lika with rare slava Sv. Vrači carry this haplo (Sv. Vrači is slava of Latas family). We will see in the future.

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Originally Posted by Varda

He said that Sandžakians are alien for him culturally and by mentality, and doesn't recognized them as own ethnicity. He had a conflict with other Bosniak user because of that and his anti-Turkish attitudes.

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It's true that there are mentality differences, we are more "tribal" (helping each other family), have a "honor" and "macho-patriarchal" mentality (this comes from our Montenegrin-Albanian background, from principles of Cojstvo i Junastvo, or Albanian "Besa"), more socially conservative regarding women, more religious; compared to Bosnia_Bosniaks who are for us more naive, dumb, weak, being submitted to their women.

https://youtu.be/Ny9UMqoc2fk?t=222
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTOaPnPauxc

But these are general stereotypes, not all of us are like that nor all Bosnia_Bosniaks are like that

This type of mentality differences is often found among tribal highlanders people all around the world, it's a general anthropological feature

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Originally Posted by RogueState

It's true that there are mentality differences, we are more "tribal" (helping each other family), have a "honor" and "macho-patriarchal" mentality (this comes from our Montenegrin-Albanian background, from principles of Cojstvo i Junastvo, or Albanian "Besa"), more socially conservative regarding women, more religious; compared to Bosnia_Bosniaks who are for us more naive, dumb, weak, being submitted to their women.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTOaPnPauxc

But these are general stereotypes, not all of us are like that nor all Bosnia_Bosniaks are like that

This type of mentality differences is often found among tribal highlanders people all around the world, it's a general anthropological feature

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That is Elvedin Pezić lool

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Originally Posted by Varda

That is Elvedin Pezić lool

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Sounds familiar to certain people here :D

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Originally Posted by Stearsolina

He was very capable, one of best careers ever for a foreign muslim in Ottoman Empire. After conversion to Islam, he came to hill above Janja Gora to watch his village many times, but never returned home.
I know that because my ex father is from Janja Gora.

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Maybe Omer paša can be consider for Bosniak, regardless Bosniak nation is created in 1990s. Every Serb, Croatian or Montenegrin who took islam becomes Bosniak, because Bosniak is umbrella for "Serbo-Croatian" speaking muslim. xD

Mehmed paša Sokolović is born as a Orthodox Serb https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sokoll...asha#Biography
Bosniaks consider him for Bosniak.

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Originally Posted by Varda

Maybe Omer paša can be consider for Bosniak, regardless Bosniak nation is created in 1990s. Every Serb, Croatian or Montenegrin who took islam becomes Bosniak, because Bosniak is umbrella for "Serbo-Croatian" speaking muslim. xD

Mehmed paša Sokolović is born as a Orthodox Serb https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sokoll...asha#Biography
Bosniaks consider him for Bosniak.

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What happens to those who come/return to Christ? Serbian Orthodox churches are not welcoming to ex-Muslims and Catholics?

Bosniak Moldovan friendship :cool:

Moldova's best known poet's surname was Eminović, pure Bosniak last name.

there is a village called Bosanci (Bosanč) in Moldova region, which means 'Bosniaks'. maybe 19th century colonists, who knows.